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NCAA probe into UNC football program 'sounding very serious'

With the start of North Carolina’s 2010 regular season a mere 50 days away, head coach Butch Davis and athletic director Dick Baddour may have a bigger concern than the Tar Heels’ offense once again dragging down a stellar defense.

As you have no doubt heard by now, the NCAA has launched an investigation into UNC’s football program.  Specifically, the organization is looking into football players’ relationships with agents and whether any illicit benefits changed hands.

A tweet from SI.com‘s Stewart Mandel sounds ominous enough in and of itself — The UNC/agent situation sounding very serious. I’m told NCAA has spent months compiling evidence. – but, when coupled with a “report” from a certified agent, it portends a very USC-like situation going on in Chapel Hill.  Only on a much larger scale.

Agent Darren Heitner has posted an intriguing — or, if you’re a Tar Heels fan, chilling — piece on the SportsAgentBlog website and, citing unnamed sources, has made some damning claims as to the scope of those alleged to be involved in wrongdoing and the extent of illegal benefits that may have been received by current UNC players.

So when Joe Schad tells the world that there is a serious NCAA investigation taking place at UNC, sports agents who may be affected should begin to contact their attorneys. Schad notes that Defensive tackle Marvin Austin was a football player who was interviewed. I have a source who tells me that Austin was only 1 of 13 players who have been interviewed – this is far reaching. And it does not only extend to a number of players. The same source tells me that there are a lot of agents that may have dirty hands, including both NFLPA Certified Advisors and marketing agents. Some are being examined more than others.

It is apparently beyond just in-person meetings, rent payments, and travel expenses. We are potentially talking about all expenses paid trips to South Beach, exorbitant amounts of money dropped on accessories, and perhaps even a Bentley or two.

Obviously, the investigation is in its infancy, and literally nothing has been proven thus far.

However, if even some of the allegations are remotely close to being the truth, the sheer scope of what’s being alleged would put the USC/Reggie Bush scandal to shame.

And, given the near-historic sanctions levied on the Trojans’ football program, that’s not the type of characterization anyone associated with the heretofore squeaky-clean UNC athletic department wants to hear.

(Tip O’ the Hat: SI.com’s Andy Staples)

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  1. SoFlaTrojan says: Jul 16, 2010 1:32 PM

    This going to be interesting to watch. I know as a USC fan we felt like the punishment didnt match the crime. If the UNC situation was worse than USC should they expect the death penalty?
    On one of the USC sites today a mod said there was an investigation going on that was bigger than both the USC or UNC investigation.

  2. buckeye044 says: Jul 16, 2010 1:56 PM

    SoFlaTrojan
    Punishment might not have fit the crime, but the attitude of the USC athletic dept and players involved had a lot to do with the sanctions, one would have to believe.

  3. edgy says: Jul 16, 2010 2:02 PM

    It’s ironic that Butch was hired to take over a dirty program in Miami and he brought it back and now, he’s headed the other way.

  4. WingT says: Jul 16, 2010 2:02 PM

    WOW !
    It would be interesting to know why agent Darren Haitner made that post and what he was trying to accomplish by revealing all of that !

  5. stpeteheel33 says: Jul 16, 2010 2:04 PM

    NOBODY on that team is driving a bentley.

  6. WingT says: Jul 16, 2010 2:12 PM

    @buckeye044
    I agree with you 100%.
    So far it appears that Baddour is responding by aggressively assisting the NCAA investigation.
    Yahoo had a good article on this but they didn’t mention any of the things that agent Haitner mentioned in the quote above.
    Hard to believe that the things Haitner said could possibly be true – time will tell

  7. SoFlaTrojan says: Jul 16, 2010 2:19 PM

    buckeye044,
    You might be right but if the NCAA is basing their penalties on what they perceive a schools attitude to be rather than the crime there is a serious problem.
    I would think that if this case turns out to be multiple players the punishment would have to be more severe than what USC received. If not it would appear USC would be in a pretty good position to win a pretty hefty lawsuit against the NCAA. It would kind of prove the point the NCAA was on a witch hunt or wanted to make an example of USC.

  8. TDiddy says: Jul 16, 2010 2:51 PM

    As someone who lives in the area, I can tell you Carolina has been dirty for years. It’s just that the local media protects them.
    Just the latest example (before this one)
    “… a $400k abode is the residence of Wayne Ellington Sr., the father of the former UNC bball player(06-09). … I am wondering why the house was(is) owned by James A. Mason Jr. who was a former Morehead scholar at UNC and is now a prominant businessman in Chapel Hill. Mason Jr. is a founding member of Parish Capital, who has very stong ties to Keenan-Flagler, UNC’s business school.”
    http://www.frumpzilla.com/frumpzilla_site/articles/wayne-ellington-lived-the-life-at-unc/
    This didn’t even register a blip in the local media.

  9. SoFlaTrojan says: Jul 16, 2010 3:14 PM

    Tdiddy,
    Two things
    1) If you are going to put up a link thats features a smokin girl please let us know. This will increase our likelyhood of clicking on the link.
    2) I would think 400k in NC would at least get you some grass.

  10. Trojanman says: Jul 16, 2010 3:31 PM

    USC had one player taking a few thousand from agents. If any football program in the country has more players taking money or larger illicit benefits, then the only sanction left for the NCAA to remain consistent is the death penalty. Of course, the NCAA is a corrupt, hypocritical organization, so I the only consistents are inconsistency, bias, and incompentence.

  11. funi says: Jul 16, 2010 3:34 PM

    Butch Davis will leave for NFL shortly!

  12. Calir says: Jul 16, 2010 3:42 PM

    I don’t think it’s any surprise how UNC all of a sudden started to get top players. It wasn’t because of Butch Davis.

  13. stpeteheel33 says: Jul 16, 2010 4:03 PM

    @tdiddy aka wolfsuck fan…yeah frumpzilla is an extremely credible source.

  14. blitz4848 says: Jul 16, 2010 4:04 PM

    Would have to be VERY severe for UNC to get the death penalty, they aren’t UM,USC Alabama or FSU–they have been squeaky clean up til now–that’s usually the way it is if you haven’t been caught before! Some seem to forget—USC admin & athletic admin kind of thumbed there noses at the NCAA. I know USC fans are loyal and should be but Mike Garrett & Pete Carroll brought the stiffer penalties and then the iceing on the cake was bringing in Kiffin who thumbs his nose at everyone no matter where he is. I have said all along USC players, fans & most alums were burned by greedy, selfing serving jerks who only cared about themselves and their small circle of cronies!!!!!!! I am NOT anti USC—just hate to see Garrett still drawing a paycheck there and so should the USC faithful……

  15. Donna says: Jul 16, 2010 4:45 PM

    @ Soflatrojan: I think what Buckeye meant was that just like in a real court if you acknowledge that something was done and be open to the facts then they usually give a lighter punishment, sort of a plea deal. But if you get in there thumbing your nose at the authorities and acting as if you’re untouchable then you get what USC got.
    This is why I’m not a fan of Pete Carroll. He was paid and treated like royalty while there, but as soon as the investigation started rumors started flying about him being open to offers from the NFL. I hardly see that as coincidental. JMHO

  16. TLNDMA says: Jul 16, 2010 4:49 PM

    Will you USC folks stop with the self pity, you cheated, you got caught. You’re like little children “but Bobby did it too”.
    You’re coaches and athlete’s, paid and not paid, still think their victories count. They don’t. That’s what happens when you get caught cheating.
    You cheat on a test, you get expelled. You cheat on your taxes, you pay penalties. You cheat on your wife, you pay attorneys. See a pattern here.
    When ND got caught by the NCAA, in the late eighties, they manned up, coopperated(key word)with the NCAA,took their medicine and then felt, believe it or not, shame.
    (Shame- a painful feeling of having lost the respect of others because of the improper behavior of oneself or others.)
    Not SC, you feel anger and contempt for those charged with enforcing the rules. That’s why it happened and why it’ll probably happen again.
    Good day.

  17. blitz4848 says: Jul 16, 2010 5:02 PM

    @TLNDMA
    Very well said………

  18. SoFlaTrojan says: Jul 16, 2010 5:03 PM

    TLNDMA,
    Feel better? Just remember when you wake up tomorrow ND will still suck!

  19. TLNDMA says: Jul 16, 2010 5:17 PM

    But we’ll have our integrity, want the definition?

  20. Nolefan1215 says: Jul 16, 2010 5:39 PM

    Something was always fishy about Marvin Austin switching to UNC at the last minute….
    BTW John, you spelled “sportsagentblog” Darren Heitner wrong…

  21. John Taylor says: Jul 16, 2010 5:42 PM

    @ Nolefan1215: Thanks for the catch.

  22. tk1966 says: Jul 16, 2010 6:03 PM

    SoFlaTrojan says: July 16, 2010 1:32 PM ET
    This going to be interesting to watch. I know as a USC fan we felt like the punishment didnt match the crime. If the UNC situation was worse than USC should they expect the death penalty?
    ___________________________________
    # Trojanman says: July 16, 2010 3:31 PM ET
    USC had one player taking a few thousand from agents. If any football program in the country has more players taking money or larger illicit benefits, then the only sanction left for the NCAA to remain consistent is the death penalty. Of course, the NCAA is a corrupt, hypocritical organization, so I the only consistents are inconsistency, bias, and incompentence.
    ___________________________________
    Both of these posters want NC to suffer sanctions much harsher than those imposed on USC (even suggesting death-penalty). While the violations, if proven to be true, are more severe than USCs, what they fail to recognize is that NC has no history of being a dirty program. It is obvious that USC got more than a slap on the wrist because of a long history of violations and shady dealing. NC, as the author points out, has a reputation as being near squeaky-clean.

  23. TLNDMA says: Jul 16, 2010 7:01 PM

    Besides the violations themeselves, the consequences of any violations are determined by the amount of oversight the institution tried to have on it’s athletes. Also how much the institution tries to co-operate with the NCAA in it’s investigation. Also involved in the final determination are the self imposed penalties the institution sanctions on teams, athletes, employees and boosters.
    Calling everyone else” jealous” does not go very far in placating the NCAA.

  24. NE49ers says: Jul 16, 2010 7:08 PM

    UNC would have had to been on probation for violations recently to get the Death Penalty and if USC didn’t get the Death Penalty for their violations across multiple sports, UNC isn’t getting it.

  25. DCroz says: Jul 16, 2010 10:48 PM

    The death penalty can only be handed out if the school in question is currently under probation for prior violations and is therefore a repeat offender. Since UNC is not currently under probation, then the death penalty is off the table, regardless of how severe the violations are.
    In any event, the NCAA has only once given the death penalty to a major college football program, that being SMU in the late 1980s. The result was that it totally devastated the Mustangs’ program and has never really fully recovered from it, so much so that the NCAA has been afraid to use it again. They have talked about “coming close” to using it as they did in the Albert Means case involving Alabama in 2002 (which is also an example of a school’s arrogance being used to increase the severity of the penalties) but have always pulled back from it. One has to wonder, though, if 20+ years since its one use may have caused the death penalty to lose its stigma with the NCAA and if they may kill a program for violations in the near future.

  26. edgy says: Jul 17, 2010 9:28 AM

    # DCroz says:
    though, if 20+ years since its one use may have caused the death penalty to lose its stigma with the NCAA and if they may kill a program for violations in the near future.
    ***********************
    The Death Penalty was imposed after SMU. The difference is that it hasn’t been used against a major program since then and it’s had 4 chances, including USC.

  27. SoFlaTrojan says: Jul 17, 2010 9:52 AM

    Tk1966,
    I dont want UNC to get the death penalty. I was only stating that it appears UNC had more going on with their football program than USC. If thats the case they should be hit harder than USC. Come on they were originally saying there were 10 to 12 players invloved.
    They could hammer UNC and I would still think the penalty against USC is to severe. The reason for the 30 scholarships is that they feel USC was able to land 30 players because of Reggie Bush. The NCAA a usaully taken away one scholarship for every illegal player.
    As for saying well USC has history so does Oklahoma and they got off far lighter and had actual boosters paying players.

  28. edgy says: Jul 17, 2010 9:56 AM

    DCroz says:
    ************************
    Also, SMU didn’t recover because the administration made a lot of bad decisions (Just like Alabama responding to their problems by hiring that moron Shula, which was almost as bad as the death penalty). They made a lot of bad hires for coaches and retreated to their campus. They could have made a major hire and gave him a chance to build the program back but they went for Forrest Gregg and that was their first mistake. They FINALLY made a good hire a couple of years ago and it looks like June Jones has them back on the right track.
    You can blame the death penalty but if you make bad decisions, it doesn’t help.

  29. bofarr says: Jul 17, 2010 1:00 PM

    I truly doubt the death penalty will ever happen again; there is too much money at stake between TV and the NCAA to kill off a major program in these times. SMU is just now recovering almost 30 years later. Also it would affect the balance of the ACC if they had to drop to 11 teams. No more championship game. Obviously ESPN would be unhappy about losing a major State U in one of their properties as well. What would the ACC do? Bring Appalachian State in to temporarily to fill the hole? (joking) Or more likely raid the Big East again?
    I believe the major sanction bomb will be dropped; scholarship reductions, recruiting restrictions, vacated victories, etc.

  30. DCroz says: Jul 17, 2010 3:31 PM

    bofarr:
    I don’t know what the NCAA rules are regarding the death penalty and a conference championship game, but I’d think that the conference would still be allowed to count the “executed” program towards the 12-team mininum and have the game. They can do that now with teams that have a postseason ban and are ineligible for the conference championship game (as Alabama, Auburn, and Mississippi State have been at times since the first SEC CG in 1992) so I doubt that the whole conference would be made to pay for one team’s misbehavior. After all, one of the best sources for information on rulebreaking that the NCAA has is conference rivals, so why would they want to discourage “sister” schools from turning each other in?

  31. blitz4848 says: Jul 17, 2010 6:53 PM

    Enough already. There won’t be a death penalty for UNC on this situation.
    Taking scholarships, bowl bans and stripping teams of wins/championships are embarrassing and very effective. No matter how many great athletes you recruit you have to have depth. Quality depth wins conferences, championships and bowl games. Just watch 2, 3 & 4 yrs from now and see what the loss of 30 scholarships does to USC. You can say what you want about whether they deserved the punishment but how they have handled this on the USC admin end was a key factor. That will also be the reason that there will be NO reduction once the appeal has run its course. The scary thing for all Trojan fans is they have a loose cannon in Kiffin who could cause them more troubles than he will ever be worth……….

  32. edgy says: Jul 17, 2010 11:50 PM

    blitz4848 says:
    Quality depth wins conferences, championships and bowl games. Just watch 2, 3 & 4 yrs from now and see what the loss of 30 scholarships does to USC.
    ************************
    Wishing that it will happen doesn’t mean that it will happen. USC has lost nothing but the bottom of their depth chart and to think that they’re going to be hurt long term means that you really haven’t thought this all out. What has hurt the Trojans the most the past couple of years, even before probation, was the loss of Orgeron, who is one of the best recruiters in college football. Now that he’s back at USC, he’s going to make sure that the Trojans continue to get the best people in Southern Cal and those that bypass USC will regret it because it is one of the NFL pipeline schools.
    Sure, you can transfer off to UConn if you’re the third string FB, who went from #2 to #3 behind a freshman but when it comes time to get an invite to the NFL Combine, UConn would be a great place if you play basketball basketball but if it comes down to inviting a guy from USC or UConn, you damn well better have run for 1500 yards while a USC FB can run for 35 yards and catch 30 passes and he’ll get an invite over you.
    USC has lost almost nothing because of the sanctions and if you don’t realize that, you haven’t been paying attention. A couple of 9 win seasons wit no bowls will keep their recruiting classes intact more than if they were SMU or some other lower class school. The Trojans lost a few people but in the long run, they’re going to be back and be just as good as they’ve ever been. Wishing for something other than that won’t work.

  33. WingT says: Jul 18, 2010 8:04 AM

    @edgy
    Nick Saban talks repeatedly about the fact that his teams will only be a good as his bottom 40 on the roster. Why? Because it’s about PRACTICE and quality thereof, not just game day.
    The loss of 30 scholarships is a HUGE blow to the future quality of USC teams for the next 5 years ! And I know that you think that just because you have Orgeron and Kiffin and a few other “Super” recruiters that you can make up for the LOSS of 30 scholarships? Wow, you are the one not thinking this threw very clearly.
    If I were a USC fan and wanted to help the team recover from the infractions, I would be all over the administration and athletic department to start kneeling down before the NCAA and beg for some relief . I would be demanding that my AD get his shit straight and be honest and humble and COMPLIANT. And I would love to hear what my University President thinks about how integrity has been breached by his staff.

  34. blitz4848 says: Jul 18, 2010 8:08 AM

    @ edgy
    I am NOT a hater and I don’t relish other programs having problems. I also don’t wish they were worse off! I state my thoughts and opinions. You tied other peoples words into your remarks to me. I didn’t compare or mention SMU. USC has to be very careful–as Orgeron is a good recruiter but he also walks a very fine line following all the NCAA rules. It will be curious how he and Kiffin can operate being in the NCAA fish bowl for the next few yrs. I believe you are 100% wrong on the 30 scholarship losses not going to hurt them. Programs like Alabama, Texas & Florida would be hurt big time by the same penalties. Your remark that players will come to USC because they are an NFL pipeline makes no sense. The NFL will find players ANYWHERE. The NFL doesn’t judge players on stats–they judge on talent! Players don’t need USC to get to the NFL anymore than they need Texas or Florida or any other big time college program

  35. DCroz says: Jul 18, 2010 10:29 AM

    blitz and edgy:
    Nice representations of polar opposite ends of the same argument, but the truth–as it usually is–lies somewhere in the middle.
    As far as recruiting goes, USC has all the advantages. Fantastic tradition, wonderful climate, the glitz of Los Angeles, strong academics (which matters only to half a handful of the players on the field, despite all the chest-beating on the subject around here lately)…USC has what it takes to get top talent year in and year out, sanctions or not.
    But yes, USC HAS lost quite a bit from these sanctions, and that was hinted at in the above post: depth. Most of those who have left have been towards the bottom of the depth chart, but those are the ones a coach looks to in order to give starters a rest, step in if the starter is injured, or just provide quality practice opposition for his starters. The sanctions also mean that Kiffin and company has to be very careful when handing out scholarships, as only a couple of busts can spell the difference between an outstanding season and a disasterous one.
    USC can weather this storm, but it will take strong leadership on Kiffin’s part to do so. Alabama was in a similar situation under Mike Shula; while he did snag some talented players (though getting talent at ‘Bama is not much harder than it is at USC) the reason why he was fired after four years was the complete lack of discipline on the team from his aversion to enforcing any. Nick Saban took that same talent and–after culling the malcontents from the group–fashioned a 12-0 regular season in only two years. Kiffin has the chance to mark himself as either the next generation’s Saban, or else

  36. DCroz says: Jul 18, 2010 10:30 AM

    blitz and edgy:
    Nice representations of polar opposite ends of the same argument, but the truth–as it usually is–lies somewhere in the middle.
    As far as recruiting goes, USC has all the advantages. Fantastic tradition, wonderful climate, the glitz of Los Angeles, strong academics (which matters only to half a handful of the players on the field, despite all the chest-beating on the subject around here lately)…USC has what it takes to get top talent year in and year out, sanctions or not.
    But yes, USC HAS lost quite a bit from these sanctions, and that was hinted at in the above post: depth. Most of those who have left have been towards the bottom of the depth chart, but those are the ones a coach looks to in order to give starters a rest, step in if the starter is injured, or just provide quality practice opposition for his starters. The sanctions also mean that Kiffin and company has to be very careful when handing out scholarships, as only a couple of busts can spell the difference between an outstanding season and a disasterous one.
    USC can weather this storm, but it will take strong leadership on Kiffin’s part to do so. Alabama was in a similar situation under Mike Shula; while he did snag some talented players (though getting talent at ‘Bama is not much harder than it is at USC) the reason why he was fired after four years was the complete lack of discipline on the team from his aversion to enforcing any. Nick Saban took that same talent and–after culling the malcontents from the group–fashioned a 12-0 regular season in only two years. Kiffin has the chance to mark himself as either the next generation’s Saban, or else

  37. DCroz says: Jul 18, 2010 10:32 AM

    (continued from last post; accidentally hit the button)
    Kiffin now has the chance to prove himself to be his generation’s Saban, else he risks becoming another footnote like Shula.

  38. edgy says: Jul 18, 2010 11:52 AM

    WingT says: July 18, 2010 8:04 AM ET
    @edgy
    Nick Saban talks repeatedly about the fact that his teams will only be a good as his bottom 40 on the roster. Why? Because it’s about PRACTICE and quality thereof, not just game day.
    ************************
    Look, are you guys even paying attention or do you just not get it? Do you think that the bottom 40 of USC’s took that big a hit with the few guys that left? Take away the sanctions and those guys would have been lower on the depth chart because they were losing their spots to incoming recruits and this was their chance at a fresh start. USC isn’t crying over their loss and I’m sure that the coaches welcome the fact that they don’t have to kiss these guys’ butts to stick around and compete for their jobs.
    Like it or not, USC and Alabama are going to bring in talent. Probation has never hurt them as much as bad choices for coaches and while a smaller school is going to have long term consequences because of probation, USC won’t have to worry about it. Nebraska had a history of walk-ons before they made a big mistake in hiring Callahan. As soon as they got rid of the AD and hired a new coach, the tradition was reinstated. Walking on in Nebraska is almost as much of an honor as getting a scholarship so I wouldn’t be too surprised to see a few guys take chances with USC because a couple of years later could mean a full ride for them.
    A lot of people are wishing really hard for a fall of SMU proportions but it’s not going to happen. If they can survive Paul Hackett, they can survive the next couple of years.

  39. edgy says: Jul 18, 2010 12:11 PM

    DCroz says:
    But yes, USC HAS lost quite a bit from these sanctions, and that was hinted at in the above post: depth.
    ************************
    Baloney. The Trojans lost NO ONE of real consequence. Nearly all of them had fallen further down the depth chart and they weren’t going to be the ones going in if the starters needed a rest. They were going to be the ones playing in the 4th quarter of a blowout game, if they were lucky. They all went somewhere to get a fresh start because they weren’t willing to compete for their jobs.
    Ask around, see how many Trojan fans agree that they took a big hit in depth because of the guys that left? Or that they’ll take a big hit at depth now? They got a prime recruiter who knows his business and that’s half the battle. If Kiffin can cobble together a couple of 7 win seasons, that will be more than enough for recruits to see that as a positive for the program once it’s back to full strength. That’s why Alabama survived their “death penalty”, Mike Shula. SMU made a big mistake in hiring Forrest Gregg and it’s taken years for them to finally correct it, as they’ve made one bad hire after another. If they had gone after a guy who had the chops and recruiting muscle, they’d have survived but they let Gregg take the program down.
    Oh and Kiffin is far from being Shula. Mike was an idiot, just like his brother. Everyone thought Dave was a genius because of Marino but once he got to run a Marino-less offense in Dallas, people realized who the real genius was. Before Alabama had to give away the wins, Shula was a winner BUT that was built on beating up on a bunch of out of conference weenies; the SEC chewed him up and spit him out.

  40. WingT says: Jul 18, 2010 3:11 PM

    @edgy
    The situation facing USC is much worse than what Alabama faced and managed through. It’s worse because, at Alabama, you could get players to walk on the team with out a scholarship – quality players. This helped fill out the roster with good players – that probably doesn’t happen as easily at USC due to the expensive tuition and living costs.
    Now I will admit that if anyone can pull this off and keep USC highly competitive through the restrictions then it’s going to be Kiffin – because he a a recruiting machine. I believe he can convince ANY player that he wants to come to USC.
    If he gets a little lucky with minimal injuries and he has quality talent 3 deep, then USC may roll through this but I seriously doubt that they will.

  41. edgy says: Jul 18, 2010 4:05 PM

    WingT says:
    @edgy
    The situation facing USC is much worse than what Alabama faced and managed through. It’s worse because, at Alabama, you could get players to walk on the team with out a scholarship – quality players.
    *********************
    You know, USC has been on probation and it didn’t kill the program. QUALITY programs overcome probation, whether it cost $30 or $3000 an hour. I don’t see a collapse of the program and even he can get 14 wins in the next two years, the last two years will be the next step back to prominence. Let’s not forget that there is ONLY a two year ban on post season play so freshmen that enter NOW will have the chance for 1 to 3 bowl games (depending on whether they redshirt this year or not) AND here’s the kicker — they’re playing at USC – which means that the NFL will come calling, something that’s going to be less likely for other schools.
    When SMU got the death penalty, the players left like rats off a sinking ship but all that USC is losing are their malcontents, guys who have seen incoming recruits or others on the roster leapfrog over them. Quite a few here were talking about how many of these guys were heading out the door when this all started and they were wrong then.
    The loss of scholarships would kill a lesser program but again, USC is NOT a lesser program. USC can expect 7 or more walk ons per year and they’re all good athletes and some turn down scholarship offers for the chance to walk on and make the team because — wait for it – they’re USC. I expect to see more enthusiasm on campus for walking on in the next couple of years.

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