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Mack Brown believes Vince Young deserves Bu$h's Heisman

Nearly five years after Reggie Bush won the Heisman Trophy, Mack Brown is still campaigning that it should have gone to Vince Young.

“I think you have to go back and really give that choice to the Heisman Trust. If they take it away, I think Vince should be awarded the trophy . . . Vince was second in the voting, so even if they re-voted I would like to see Vince get it,” Brown said on the Dan Patrick Show Monday.

The Longhorn head coach also believes that had voting been moved until after the bowl games, VY would have won the prestigious award. Honestly, Bush’s Heisman should have been revoked after the national championship when he decided to lateral the ball to his teammate like a nincompoop.

USC has returned its copy of Bush’s Heisman and stripped the university of everything that reminded anybody of him. Ever. The Heisman Trust has not yet asked Bush to return his personal copy of the Heisman and it’s unclear as to if or when they will.

“The Trust will be considering the issues raised in the USC/Reggie Bush matter, and after reaching a decision will publish it, but due to the complex issues involved and the Trust’s desire to reach an appropriate decision, no definitive timetable has been established,” said William Dockery, president of the Trust. “Until the matter has been fully considered and a decision is reached, the Trust has no further comment.”

Other than Mack Brown, does anybody think Bush’s Heisman should be given to Vince Young?

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  1. rbc says: Aug 30, 2010 10:15 PM

    Me.
    VY whopped his butt when it mattered most. Not like Reggie was far and away the best that year. It was close.

  2. burntorangehorn says: Aug 30, 2010 10:59 PM

    I think Vince deserved it in 2005, but should spurn it if offered. He won, or rather contributed more than anyone else to winning, the trophy that mattered. And he did so without $300,000 in benefits.

  3. DG0122 says: Aug 30, 2010 11:12 PM

    Vince deserved it in the first damn place…
    the USCESPN hype machine got it for Reggie, then Vince went and tore their hearts out in their own backyard

  4. ShaKey says: Aug 30, 2010 11:36 PM

    No revote, just send the man his trophy.

  5. BlitzburghGator says: Aug 31, 2010 12:52 AM

    Agree with those who think Young deserved it in the first place.
    And kudos to Mack Brown for still having his back. I dont think he is a great gameday coach, but he’s a hell of a recruiter, and loyalty to former players is an admirable quality.

  6. rsj1119 says: Aug 31, 2010 1:09 AM

    Did so without $300,000 in benefits…yeah right. Vince can’t even read but was enrolled at Texas and had the grades to play. I’d say he won with benefits.

  7. Fkerry12 says: Aug 31, 2010 1:48 AM

    BS. Vince did not and does not deserved it! Crawl back in you hole Mack.

  8. jsandals9 says: Aug 31, 2010 2:19 AM

    VY had a great performance against USC in the Rose Bowl. However, voting is done before the bowl game. Without Reggie Bush there who knows how many of those would have gone to Leinart. He did end up in 3rd place. The best thing to do is just to vacate it.

  9. cfj1845 says: Aug 31, 2010 6:06 AM

    Ok, so I know that VY did have the better rose bowl performance, but I feel like some are forgetting the facts of the season….Reggie was clearly the better player all year-possibly one of the most electrifying college football players I’ve ever seen in 30 years of watching college football…Plus, he did win by the largest margin of votes (I think second only to OJ Simpson) in the history of the Heisman Trophy, so it was not close at all-at least when it came to the voters who counted…

  10. Florida727 says: Aug 31, 2010 7:56 AM

    cfj, you’re forgetting one thing: he was INELIGIBLE TO PLAY. or should have been because of the benefits received. whatever he did on the field is totally irrelevant… because he didn’t deserve to be on the field in the first place. oh yeah, Fkerry, spoken like a true USC fan. try dumping your moronic bias and look at FACTS. Bush is a great talent, that can’t be questioned. so why cheat? the Heisman Trust needs to decide to do nothing (the easy way out), re-vote (cumbersome, but really the most fair way), or just hand the trophy IN A FORMAL CEREMONY to Vince (easiest of the three except for the ceremony logistics).

  11. rbc says: Aug 31, 2010 8:21 AM

    cfj — facts of the season were a lot closer than you let on. Yeah the ESPN hype machine loved showing Bush destroy Frensno State highlights all night long, but VY was putting up huge stats that year too. He had a lot games, such as against OkSt, where he was 23-25 for 300 yds.

  12. GATORCOUNTRY says: Aug 31, 2010 8:41 AM

    All this going back in time…..well, it sounds fun but there is no time machine as of yet. Mack is correct in the fact that Bu$h should be stripped of the honor (and I went to grad school at USC)….
    But if there were the ability to enact monetary fines strictly on those who break the NCAA rules, then innocent people, such as fans and teammates, wouldn’t pay the price while the perpetrator endures greater glory and maybe only a little regret….
    Bu$h is human and was an 18 year old dumb kid at the time, not excusing it but the likelihood of figuring out a way to take $300K is high regardless….penalize the player/coach out of future salary later donated to the school and we have a decent solution…

  13. TheBuzzOnNY.com says: Aug 31, 2010 8:43 AM

    I dont care, as I’m sure most people dont, what Reggie Bush did off the field. He did enough on the field to win the Heisman. Young had a great year too. And if the voting was after the bowl game, Young probably would have won it. But since it went by the college football “regular season”, then it goes to Bush. I like how the NCAA just wipes out the books and expects everyone to just forget it happened. So dumb.

  14. Fish says: Aug 31, 2010 10:04 AM

    As a proud SOONER this kills me the say, but the Heisman has to go to Vince. Why is that even a question ? Reggie has been erased from history, and technically he was erased from memory the minute Vince scored in the Rose Bowl. It has to go to Vince.
    BCS SOONER BOUND !!
    Boomer Sooner !!!

  15. Randall says: Aug 31, 2010 10:19 AM

    If Bush was ineligible, strip him. No winner that year. I’m amazed the Trust hasn’t already stripped him.

  16. skf727 says: Aug 31, 2010 10:51 AM

    Strip Bush but I don’t really see the point in awarding the trophy to VY five years after the fact. The voters voted for what the players did on the field that regular season and decided to give it to Reggie. Case closed.
    As a Sooners fan, I know I wouldn’t embrace getting rewarded the 2004 national championship if USC is forced to give it up as we got trounced on the field.
    By all means, USC should have to forego its championship for using ineligble players (I find it hard to believe that no one in the program knew Bush was doing what he was doing), but awarding the NC to OU or Auburn is kinda silly and giving Bush’s Heisman to VY or anyone else is bunk, too.

  17. burntorangehorn says: Aug 31, 2010 11:28 AM

    rsj1119 says:
    August 31, 2010 1:09 AM ET
    Did so without $300,000 in benefits…yeah right. Vince can’t even read but was enrolled at Texas and had the grades to play. I’d say he won with benefits.
    ====================================
    I wouldn’t know first hand, but I’m pretty sure you could tell me: it’s always fun to just pull stuff out of one’s crack, isn’t it rsj?
    As a Longhorns fan, I still fully agree with those who say it should be vacated. I think that’s the only right way to go about this. Don’t re-vote, don’t give it to the second-place guy. Vince deserved the Heisman over Bush in the first place, but don’t resort to revisionism. Just vacate the trophy, and in tables showing past Heisman winners, just use the word “none” where Bush’s name used to be.
    And yes, that would mean that in retrospect, VY finished…second to none.

  18. blitz4848 says: Aug 31, 2010 12:41 PM

    Vacate it and be done with it………..

  19. Chaplain says: Aug 31, 2010 1:55 PM

    It’s always been my belief that the Heisman Trophy went to the best college player of the year. But for some time now each school has started promoting their players at the start of the year. Why not wait until the seasons over and look at the stats and then decide. Hype should have no part in deciding. Why is the award, seemingly, going only to quarterbacks and running backs only. It’ s the best player award so look at offense and defense.
    As for the “Bush” trophy it really belonged to Vince Young anyway so give it to him even if it’s 5 years late, Vince was the best player that year.

  20. blitz4848 says: Aug 31, 2010 6:40 PM

    2004 Heisman winner = ” VACATED “

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