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Saban takes a jab at Boise State title talk

“Should Boise State be in the national championship discussion?”

Throughout the preseason and, especially, after Boise State’s 33-30 win over Virginia Tech Monday night, that’s a question that’s been asked of a Broncos team that’s suddenly turned from Cinderella to the wicked stepmother of college football.

From fans’ comments on this site to gallons of ink being spilled by major newspaper columnists to talking heads on TV/radio, everyone seems to have two copper Lincolns as to Boise State’s worthiness in being mentioned amongst the big boys and their pursuit of the BcS crystal.

You can now count Nick Saban amongst the everyone.

Speaking on his weekly radio show, the Alabama head coach took a shot at Boise State, hinting that if the Broncos were in his conference and had to run through their gauntlet of league foes — not just one game against the Hokies — it might be a different story.

He noted that Alabama defeated Virginia Tech in its 2009 opener and defeated “six other teams that were the caliber of Virginia Tech, or maybe better. And maybe more than that if you throw in Texas and Florida in the SEC Championship Game. …”

“It’s the full body of work. It’s not just that you can beat one team, but if you have to beat six or seven other teams and have to play with consistency to do it, I think that goes a long way in saying a lot about what kind of football team that you have. And that’s no disrespect that you have, because they may certainly be able to do the same thing if they were put in that circumstance.”

First of all, who were these six presumably SEC teams in 2009 — in addition to Florida and Texas — that Saban’s team hurdled en route to the national title and were equal to or better than the Hokies?  LSU?  Georgia?  Ole Miss or Arkansas?  Tennessee under Kiffin?  Please with your six-plus, Coach Woodcock.

Certainly I have a very, very high opinion of the SEC, too high based on some of the comments in many of my posts; Saban’s, however, is the reason a good chunk of college football despises the conference.

Secondly, and to address Saban’s quasi-quality final thought, you simply don’t know what would happen if Boise State were to be dropped into the middle of the SEC.  Or the Big Ten.  Or the Pac-10 (The Big East is another story, though; that’s a league title and automatic BcS berth right there).  Certainly there can be conjecture, but the “put them in the (conference name) and they wouldn’t even finish .500″ take is one of the most patently asinine arguments in the sports world today.  Such a concrete statement on a what-if argument is a stance of the feeble-minded, too weak to wrap their heads around anything but the most simplistic of concepts and too self-centered to realize that football is played at a very high level outside the South/Midwest/Texas.

Of course, there is a one way that this argument could be solved, at least in part.

A playoff.

Oops, never mind.  The weak of mind can’t wrap their heads around that simple concept, either.

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  1. Whodey_Bengals says: Sep 10, 2010 9:17 AM

    Will somebody please tell Saban to shut the F*CK UP!!!! Im so sick of hearing him have an opinion about everything.

  2. chc4 says: Sep 10, 2010 9:27 AM

    But we do know what would happen if UGA, Bama or even LSU were dropped into the WAC, right?

  3. blitz4848 says: Sep 10, 2010 9:31 AM

    The big thing in my mind is if Boise had to play tough conference games 6 -8 times a season their lack of depth would be exposed. I enjoy watching Boise and think they are good but I don’t think their are BCS NC game good. I would like to see them either go independent or lobby the
    Texas +9 league to join them. Would imagine Texas would fight this mightily as Mack Brown despises conf championship games as potentially a late season loss to a tough opponent.
    In my mind if the Texas +9 coference added TCU and Boise they could add some quality to a rather weak conference that soon will be on the same level as the Big Least conference.

  4. grandavenue says: Sep 10, 2010 9:32 AM

    The only way a playoff would work now is if they relaigned the conferences. Boise would be in the playoffs every year since they play in the WAC. Then they would have only had to beat 3 tough teams.
    To Saban’s point, I do agree that playing a BigXII, Big Ten, or SEC schedule is tough, because you face quality players. BCS schools are deeper, and tend to have better coaches.
    I would like nothing more than Boise to be afforded a real shot at the title, if they earn it. I feel strongly that the only way a program like Boise can join the upper schools in the BCS is if they get into the Pac-10 or the Big XII. Utah made the step up. Boise needs to put themselves in a position where they don’t have to explain or apologize for their schedule.
    It’s a messed up situation. According to experts, it’s half the fun, they are clearly not experts.

  5. SoFlaTrojan says: Sep 10, 2010 9:38 AM

    I second what Whodey said.

  6. 78Lion says: Sep 10, 2010 9:47 AM

    If Boise were placed in the SEC, they would have the financial resources, legal and otherwise, to sign the number of recruits the rest of the SEC signs and would be forced to do so to compete.

  7. Lucky5927 says: Sep 10, 2010 10:02 AM

    First of all, Boise State is not the Boise State of 5 years ago. They have solid depth now at their positions. Their defense was just as fast as Tech’s was the other night. So I think Boise State would perform very well in any of the Conferences. Maybe not a conference championship, but they they would definitely be in the discussion.
    Secondly, I recall a couple years back when Saban’s almighty Alabama team walked into a BCS bowl game against another team who played a similar schedule to Boise State. And how did that game against Utah turn out? Oh yeah, they were embarrassed on National Television. So the truth of the matter is, Boise State does not have to go through the rigors of a tough conference to prove they are the best team in the land. They just have to keep winning and win the games they schedule. If they so happen to be in the National Championship game, then so be it. I personally don’t think they can win, but more unexpected things have happened. So unless Saban is prepared to reflect on his loss to Utah, he should not discount the validity of a non-BCS conference team playing for a national championship. And if he thinks their schedule does not merit a national championship, then Bama should go undefeated and prove to the world that Boise State doesn’t belong. Until then, I would suggest he worries about monitoring his own players who are getting in trouble with agents, and less about what a National title contender is doing this season.

  8. THEBIGTUSK says: Sep 10, 2010 10:12 AM

    Mr. Taylor, your jab at the SEC and Coach Saban is a bit unwarranted, don’t you think? The SEC is a very competitive conference. If you don’t think so then look at the last 4 NC’s……With very little opposition. Those games were not even close. All Coach was trying to say is….. If you have very competitive competition week in and week out….then you lose your endurance, health, depth, and will. If you skate all year long, then aren’t you as refreshed and healthy at the end of the year….as you was in the beginning. Oh and by the way the Boise coach said if there was a playoff….he did not think is team would fare all that well. Mr. Taylor have you ever played football? I think you should do more research on the subject. I think you should re-think your concepts…..GOOD DAY

  9. chc4 says: Sep 10, 2010 10:16 AM

    78Lion — that’s a flawed argument. I seriously doubt BSU would sign a ton of elite talent from the southeast. The overwhelming majority of 4-5 star players stay in the south. The one that leave go to USC, Texas, Ohio State, etc. Seriously doubt Boise would make much of a dent there.
    But that isn’t even the point. If you put BSU’s current team in the SEC and they don’t have 9 practice games against the likes of San Jose St, Cal Poly and SW Idaho State the results would be different. Just can’t see how that can be refuted. That’s not to say on any given day they can’t beat Florida, UGA or even Bama. But the rigors of a 3 week stretch including Auburn, UGA and say Arkansas is something they don’t contend with. Boise is challenged , maybe 2 times a year. The rest of that schedule is FCS caliber.

  10. buckeyeboy says: Sep 10, 2010 10:17 AM

    @chc4
    you are correct in ur thinking lol put a marginal team like tenneessee, mich st, or ok st in the WAC, and you can bet ur bottom dollar they run the table and go undefeated. Undoubtedly some of you will say that the “bcs busters” have beaten oklahoma in the fiesta bowl, and that I am wrong in my thinking, but reality is coming folks, boise st has the depth of a high school team, a real schedule destroys them.

  11. RTR says: Sep 10, 2010 10:25 AM

    So many people “hate” the SEC because they won the last 4 national championships in a row and won 5 the last decade. Actually it isn’t hate it’s envy.
    Ask Florida last year how good Tennessee was with Kiffin.
    Coach Saban is right. He didn’t take a jab an Boise he answered a question. Get in a real conference and see if you are undefeated at home since 2001. Not gonna happen.
    I don’t see many Boise players leaving early for the draft either like the real schools have to deal with. Look at how many GOOD players left Alabama and Florida last year before their senior year. How many left Boise early last year?

  12. edgy1957 says: Sep 10, 2010 10:27 AM

    blitz4848 says: September 10, 2010 9:31 AM ET
    The big thing in my mind is if Boise had to play tough conference games 6 -8 times a season their lack of depth would be exposed.
    ******************
    Really? So, you’re telling me that if they were magically transported to a BCS conference that the athletes that they get would NOT be any better than the ones that they have now? Are you saying that the name brand of the conference would do NOTHING for their recruiting efforts (despite what it has CLEARLY done for Utah) so why should they join a conference when it won’t upgrade the quality of their recruits and back ups? Or is this a case, as usual, of you just not thinking this all out before you wildly tap on the keyboard like the monkey that people say may one day type out a coherent word or sentence, if you let it type out enough.
    P.S. – The Big Bigots of the Big 10 said the same shit about Penn State, just how has that worked out?

  13. vixzilla says: Sep 10, 2010 10:34 AM

    Yes. The SEC teams you listed are correct. Any of thos likely will or could beat Va Tech last year and this year too with the exception of TN who has imploded after Kiffin broke one off in that program. Saban knows his football. That’s why he makes millions coaching and John Taylor doesn’t.

  14. africamike says: Sep 10, 2010 10:35 AM

    Brilliant comment there, Whodoo. Well thought out – you are no doubt a piece of work. Saban is recognized and respected as one of the top coaches in all of football. He has an obligation to comment on this topic. I thought what he said was balanced and measured and in no way demeaned Boise St., which is obviously a great team I admire ad love to watch play.
    Would they do well in the SEC or another top conference? Eventually. But not at their present depth level. Playing one or two top cailber teams a year is not enough to be considered for a championship game unless there are only two loss BCS teams.

  15. dafool99 says: Sep 10, 2010 10:37 AM

    Im a big UT fan and I hate Saban for obvious reasons. But the asshole has a point. Alabama brought in 2 5 star players, and 11 4 stars to go along with the surplus of talent that he already has. While Boise only had one 4 star and only 10 players in their total class. Won’t cut it in a bigger conference.
    Bama, Florida, Texas, Ohio State, OU, can plug and players at will because they have the girth of talent. They all have 2 deep rosters, while the guys that don’t make it their would be all americans elsewhere but have to wait there turn to play.
    Boise doesn’t have that option. If kellen moore gets mono next week, there season is over.

  16. edgy1957 says: Sep 10, 2010 10:39 AM

    grandavenue says:
    The only way a playoff would work now is if they relaigned the conferences.
    *******************************
    It’s funny how you say this when this was the biggest bitch against the guy who won the most titles in NCAA men’s basketball history, John Wooden. Some of the ACC schools complained that all he had to do was win his conference and he was in while they had to win a tournament, even if they had won the regular season title. Of course, since most of the conferences DIDN’T play a tournament, they called them retarded for having one and then bitching about having to win one (Later on, when they expanded the tournament, it made more sense to have one because the bigger conferences knew that they would have a chance at an at large if their regular season winner was knocked out).
    Boise State is headed to the MWC, which has been weakened by the loss of BYU and Utah BUT still retain Air Force and TCU and they’re taking the strongest WAC teams to combine into a conference that is about the same as what the MWC was before. If they could have kept BYU and Utah, they would have been every bit as powerful a conference as the Big East, ACC and the Pac-10.

  17. lakesidegator says: Sep 10, 2010 10:43 AM

    I agree entirely with whodey and SoFlaTrojan.

  18. spudvol says: Sep 10, 2010 10:47 AM

    I love the “one hand tied behind their back logic” from Saban. To paraphrase-If you put BSU in the SEC with a fraction of the budget/facilities of the rest of the SEC, BSU would struggle. No shit? Thing is, any team would struggle under those conditions. How would Alabama fare in the WAC at 1/5th their current budget/facilities?

  19. RollTideGoFins says: Sep 10, 2010 10:51 AM

    Whodey and SoFla Trojans should shut the F^%$ up, the guys asked a question, he’s NOT supposed to give his opinion? You want all coaches to just say “no comment” and move on?
    It was no different for Pete Carrol trojans, when you win a title, you get attention and your comments are seen everywhere…

  20. fatediesel says: Sep 10, 2010 10:54 AM

    In 2009 Boise had an open date on their 2010 schedule and was looking for a road game with a good, major conference team, and wasn’t asking for a return game. They couldn’t find any takers. These coaches complain about Boise’s schedule but it’s not their fault they can’t find a third BCS conference team willing to play them.

  21. RollTideGoFins says: Sep 10, 2010 10:55 AM

    By the way, that was hardly a shot Saban was taking, he did say they (BSU) may very well be able to beat the teams in the bigger conferences.
    “And that’s no disrespect that you have, because they may certainly be able to do the same thing if they were put in that circumstance.”

  22. THE godfather says: Sep 10, 2010 11:10 AM

    I lost any interest for the article once the word “quasi” was used.

  23. Brutus B Columbus Ohio says: Sep 10, 2010 11:14 AM

    Boise State is 28-1 since the start of the 2008 season. They have beaten most of the BCS member teams that have had the courage to play them. If they run the table and move their 3 season record to 39-1 they deserve a shot. Their only loss was by 1 point to an undefeated team. Why do so many SEC fans feel Boise is undeserving? Ask Oregon, Oregon St, VT, TCU and Oklahoma if Boise can play with the big boys.

  24. Yata-Hey says: Sep 10, 2010 11:16 AM

    Sorry – I just can’t take a team that plays on a blue field seriously!

  25. rolltide says: Sep 10, 2010 11:27 AM

    I think Boise State is a great team with a great coach and I have no doubt they could compete in any conference. I just don’t understand why it’s such a taboo for some people to question their strength of schedule.
    The sad thing to me is that had Utah and BYU stayed in the Mountain West conference, the additions of Boise St. and Fresno, complimented by TCU, the MWC would be a legit conference, at least on par with the Pac-10, and all of these problems would have been fixed. There would be conferences with parity, the system would work as intended, and all the silly playoff talk would end.

  26. blitz4848 says: Sep 10, 2010 11:27 AM

    @ Over the EDGY
    As usual you can’t read. You twist things to your narrow minded view point and then try to talk down to people.
    You are just a pissed off about being an alter boy for 20 yrs before you realized you could get off your knees………
    My statement was that they should play independent or try to join the Texas+9 conference. I never said anything about Boise coming to the SEC. You have a way of going off on a wild rant, throwing out a lot of googled up crap and then thinking you are some football god.
    Just because you have to stand up the rest of your life due to your duties of being a “20yr alter boy” isn’t the rest of our faults.
    I told you to ignore my posts because I can’t stand you–so as long as you take my opinion and try to spin it into one your my a$$hole still hurts
    rants then you are in my crosshairs. Get a life……

  27. oted1963 says: Sep 10, 2010 11:29 AM

    come on Boise fans, you all seen the article about NU trying to schedule games with the Bronco’s but they wanted to much money. If they really wanted in the NC race they need to play the games. They seem to talk out both sides of their mouths. Last year you were arguing strength of schedule now it doesn’t matter. get real, it’s still early and anything can happen. But don’t give the excuse nobody will play you, Nebraska tried and the Bronco’s wanted no part of it so they said well a million dollars to come to lincoln knowing NU or anyone for that matter would not pay that money. They want to waltz thru the season and then cry because they aren’t in the NC game.

  28. j-daddy says: Sep 10, 2010 11:31 AM

    Alabama was lucky to even be in the championship game last year. Tennessee had them on the ropes, and an uncalled unsportsmanlike conduct (throwing a helmet on the field after a missed field goal) was the only reasons the Tide escaped that afternoon.
    I think Nick is still feeling the sting of that pasting he took from Utah a few years ago.

  29. DallasHusker says: Sep 10, 2010 11:40 AM

    Stats don’t lie, folks, just like 1 game doesn’t make a season – or a title contender.
    Boise State’s cumulative record since 2002 against BCS teams: 7-7
    Boise State’s cumulative record since 2002 against non-BCS teams: 84-4
    Even though they only play 1 or 2 BCS teams per year, and have weeks, sometimes months to prepare while running through their cupcake conference schedule, they’ve been able to manage no better than a .500 record.
    National Championship contender? I don’t think so!

  30. kal899 says: Sep 10, 2010 11:43 AM

    Its a stretch to say Saban was insulting anyone there…
    Plus, as a Bama fan I think actually we could look at it as a plus…..Boise keeps everyone else away so as long as they keep winning and we win out and win the SEC Champ. game in ‘Lanta….we’re in like Flynn…to me Saban was being more unselfish with his remarks…selfishly he could be thinking like me :)
    Much like last year. Our National Champ. game was actually Florida in Atlanta…once we got past them, it was just coastin…..sorry, but its true….Colt McCoy is a class act no doubt, but I knew those big ole boys of Saban’s would put a waylay on TX

  31. MN Boise Fan says: Sep 10, 2010 12:09 PM

    All the coaches are going to get asked this question this year. It’s inevitable.
    The ones who say Boise doesn’t belong there are scared of one thing, and one thing only: The fact that they don’t have a mulligan this year. Boise, Utah and TCU are simply too good to ignore as undefeateds if the BCS conference can’t produce thier own undefeated teams.
    Fact is this though: All the Big boys still control thier own destiny, except for VT and Oregon State. All you gotta do is run the table. If two of you can do it, it doesn’t matter what BSU, Utah and TCU do – you’ll get the nod. The Big Boys need to ask themselves one simple question – Are you boys up to the challenge?

  32. edgy1957 says: Sep 10, 2010 12:09 PM

    blitz4848 says:
    @ Over the EDGY
    *******************************
    Gee, it seems that you don’t like to hear from anyone that disagrees with you. Well, Monkey Boy, keep tapping away your nonsense and let the others here call you on it. Maybe they might find a coherent word or sentence. Boob.
    BTW, I won’t be stopping my replies to you, I just thought I’d show you how childish you look.

  33. lswingly says: Sep 10, 2010 12:15 PM

    Everyone keeps harping on how Boise’s lack of depth and whatnot would hurt them if they were dropped in the SEC. But the same people don’t acknowledge that if they were in the SEC and thus benefitted from the money and exposure that comes from being in that conference they also likely would be able to recruit much more effectively, land some blue chip prospects for a change and improve their overall depth.
    As the author noted.. the what if game is a ploy of the lazy minded. First it was “if they played the big boys they’d get embarrassed”. Then after beating some ranked teams in BCS conferences the argument became “well they need to play the big boys game in and game out”.
    At the end of the day Boise still has a pretty darn good program with a pretty darn good coach and until there is a playoff system there is really no good argument for keeping a top 5 team who returns 20 starters and beats a top 10 opponent to start the season, out of the title picture if they run the table, weak conference or not.

  34. Mizzou1839 says: Sep 10, 2010 12:20 PM

    You people kill me. On one hand you argue that it’s ok that Boise State/Utah/TCU have a conference schedule full of foes not quite up to par because ‘it’s their schedule’, but then on the other hand you will criticize any BCS conference school who dares schedule some creme puffs for their outta conference games.

  35. edgy1957 says: Sep 10, 2010 12:25 PM

    DallasHusker says:
    Stats don’t lie, folks, just like 1 game doesn’t make a season – or a title contender.
    ********************
    So, why won’t the BCS play them? Or more to the point, why won’t anyone OUTSIDE OF THE PAC-10 play them? 7 of those games (it’s actually 6-7 since 2002) are against the Pac-10. That’s a little over 1 game per BCS conferences sans the Big 10 (I have visions of a guy in a leather jacket with a Boise State logo on it and little glass bottles on his fingers clacking them and chanting, “BCS, come out and play ay. BCS, come out and play ay, BCS, come out and Pulay, ay!”).

  36. cooper81 says: Sep 10, 2010 12:36 PM

    Uhmm didn’t a team named Utah defeat Alabama in a fairly recent bowl???
    If you win all of your bowl games against the caliber of teams you are dis-cussing, THEN maybe you can dish out. Otherwise coaches should probably keep their biased smuggery checked at the interview door.

  37. chc4 says: Sep 10, 2010 12:41 PM

    Boise State wants $1million + to play a road game at Nebraska. That’s one big reason why no one will play them.

  38. dafool99 says: Sep 10, 2010 12:44 PM

    @kal899 what waylay were u watching. A fluke injury, and UT going into an ultra conservative offense is what parlayed yall into a NC. Don’t think for a moment Bama just domintaed that game. Your offense was non-existent except a few runs.
    Yall got punched in the mouth when the game started, “CART” Mccoy got hurt. And then Mack laid the offense down for you. It went into a UT runs 3 times for no yards.(and no it wasn’t that your defense was so great stopping us on the run… we couldn’t against anybody, see rice game this year).
    After all that conservative shit, and coming out at the half they got the game back to 21-24 before wr’s starting quitting on their routes and 2 more turnovers gave way to points. Final 37-21.
    Alabama won based on coaching. Saban saw that mack wasn’t going to press, so he decided to take what was given. A victory yes.
    Waylay?
    Noway!

  39. edgy1957 says: Sep 10, 2010 12:44 PM

    BTW, Blitz, it should be noted that Penn State was independent and they laid out a “we’ll play anyone, any time” challenge and the BCS big wigs ignored them and had the balls to whine about their schedule and say that they had an easy road to the national championship and didn’t deserve it (Sound familiar?). By the mid ’70s, they finally got a couple of BCS top dogs like Nebraska and Ohio State to play them but most of the rest ignored them and they played a schedule that would be comparable to the Boise State has now: a couple of BCS teams and a bunch of teams that were less than great and a rivalry game with Pittsburgh that was considered a good team, even though they were also an independent that had to fight tooth and nail for recognition. In the end, Penn State joined the Big 10 because of the reputation that they would gain from the conference games and not because THEY felt that they weren’t worthy of their status. The Big East would have given them a more natural rivalry with Pittsburgh and BC but their football reputation (ironic, huh?) wasn’t as good (As it was, Miami and BC would flee for the ACC).
    Being independent isn’t going to help Boise’s reputation and other than the Pac-10, what BCS conference IS going to take them? You can say “Well, if they played in the SEC” but that’s as stupid as saying “Well, if Florida played in the Pac-10″ because we know that neither would happen. The built-in biases of the East Coast are as bad as the biases of fans of the Northern schools are against the Southern schools. Neither BYU or Boise would ever benefit from being an independent when it comes to the voters. Sure, BYU has Texas on their schedule but you can damn sure bet that you and every other asshole from the East are going to point to their WAC opponents (A downgrade from their MWC schedule, I will grant you) and ignore the rest of their games just as people did Penn State. Why don’t you ask LONG TIME Penn State fans about how they feel they were treated by you assholes when they were independent? I don’t think that they appreciate you Big Bigots as much as you think.

  40. Buckeye1 says: Sep 10, 2010 12:50 PM

    Um, Saban didn’t say anything wrong or take a jab at anyone. The writer of this article totally spun this negatively as most medias do. Obviously a Saban hater. The argument is that Boise plays Two decent teams a year and they somehow deserve a Title shot? Are you kidding me? They get no respect because they play NO ONE! Try playing in a conference where every team believes they have a shot for a National Championship and each of those teams faced has the talent and coaching to beat you! Every weekend is a Conference Championship game. Until Boise does that, no one will give them respect.
    I wish my team could play 2 games the rest cupcakes and got Auto booted into the National Championship. Well, No I wouldn’t. That would be cheap.

  41. theillestnino says: Sep 10, 2010 12:58 PM

    I always thought that a 16 game playoff featuring 11 conference champs and 5 at large bids. Thereby making conference championships mean something (outside of the SEC) and at the same time have a meaningful regular season without having to sacrifice the polls. Maybe even have a BCS type system for the final 5 spots. (And finally make the primadonna Irish join a conference)

  42. lswingly says: Sep 10, 2010 1:01 PM

    PAC 10 will never take BSU either because they don’t meet the PAC 10’s academic standards.

  43. FloydTurbo says: Sep 10, 2010 1:02 PM

    Boise State, coming off an 11-1 season in 2004, opened the 2005 season at Georgia and lost 48-13. We don’t have much to go on in comparing them with SEC teams, but that beating didn’t set a good precedent.

  44. RTR says: Sep 10, 2010 1:03 PM

    Just wondering if Boise’ schedule as a recruiting tool?
    “Hey come on over here to BSU, we play a cupcake schedule, only the ocassional tough game before bowl season. You aren’t probably going to play in the NFL but that’s OK, you will have 4 beautiful years in Idaho. And we will pass on playing at Nebraska but we will keep Utah State and New Mexico State on the schedule. “

  45. spudvol says: Sep 10, 2010 1:03 PM

    “I wish my team could play 2 games the rest cupcakes and got Auto booted into the National Championship. Well, No I wouldn’t. That would be cheap. “
    I can’t believe an OSU fan wrote something this stupid. Let’s go WAAAY back, all the way back to 2007 when OSU did not play a single 10-win team all season and ended up in the National Championship game.
    Cheap indeed.

  46. press1forenglish says: Sep 10, 2010 1:05 PM

    Isn’t BS something like 84-4 against non-BCS and 7-7 against BCS teams?

  47. blitz4848 says: Sep 10, 2010 1:09 PM

    Texas, invite TCU & Boise into the Big 12 -2
    Problem solved
    Then it will the real Big 12 again.

  48. BAtkins63 says: Sep 10, 2010 1:11 PM

    fatediesel says:
    September 10, 2010 10:54 AM ET
    In 2009 Boise had an open date on their 2010 schedule and was looking for a road game with a good, major conference team, and wasn’t asking for a return game. They couldn’t find any takers. These coaches complain about Boise’s schedule but it’s not their fault they can’t find a third BCS conference team willing to play them.
    ________________
    DUH! Yeah, DA. Boise wanted a split gate or $1mil minimum. I’d tell ‘em to piss up a rope too. BSU will have to go on the road and be someones bitch… 4 times per year. BSU’s game with VT was negotiated by ESPN… not something the schools sought out individually.
    Let Bama or Florida schedule a 2 game season and see what happens.

  49. cooper81 says: Sep 10, 2010 1:13 PM

    Saban’s rep precedes itself. I would believe about the negative spin if I didn’t know the history about his unbridled tongue. I understand the point… and everyone thought Utah didn’t deserve the bowl chance to play Alabama based on the same argument. I agree that until you play a respectable schedule you won’t get much respect. That’s the way it is. Boise’s head coach even said that the BCS ‘has been good for us’ and admitted that in a plus one or two system they would not be in the title hunt. But let others argue the point.. not a coach who lost to Utah two years ago.

  50. edgy1957 says: Sep 10, 2010 1:13 PM

    # chc4 says: September 10, 2010 12:41 PM ET
    Boise State wants $1million + to play a road game at Nebraska. That’s one big reason why no one will play them.
    *********************
    Hell, the Directional Michigans gets 1/2 that to drive over to lay down for Michigan and Michigan State. Given the fact that Boise State is not only a better team but has to travel further, you damn right they have the nerve to ask for that much AND they deserve it.

  51. edgy1957 says: Sep 10, 2010 1:17 PM

    FloydTurbo says:
    Boise State, coming off an 11-1 season in 2004, opened the 2005 season at Georgia and lost 48-13.
    *********************
    They also weren’t as good of a team in 2005 and the same goes for 2007 when Hawaii took the WAC.

  52. edgy1957 says: Sep 10, 2010 1:26 PM

    Buckeye1 says:
    The argument is that Boise plays Two decent teams a year and they somehow deserve a Title shot? Are you kidding me?
    **********
    Yeah, the same argument that was used against Penn State and Pittsburgh before they finally succumbed to pressure and joined a football conference. Both were bitch slapped by people like you for their supposed soft schedules and even though they couldn’t get the Big Boys to play them, their fans and their media were all over them for their soft schedules. Funny but Penn State was supposed to see how hard it was to be in the Big 10 and they won it in their second year and they had a winning record in their first. They hit a speed bump in the early 2000s but by then they had already established that it was a complete lie that they would stumble and fall in the Big Boys Conference.

  53. TJ says: Sep 10, 2010 1:40 PM

    Saban didn’t say that BSU wouldn’t go undeafeated with a tougher schedule, he pointed out that they “may” still go undefeated. That is the problem, however. They will not be put to that test.

  54. CPinCT says: Sep 10, 2010 1:46 PM

    I don’t think anyone will argue that the SEC is a very good football conference, and it’s sad that Saban always feels the need to open his mouth and remind everyone. But I would argue that the BCS was afraid to match Boise State (or TCU for that matter) in bowl games against BCS conference power houses. They matched the two against each other to avoid the potential fire storm that would have occurred if Boise or TCU had played a power team and won (which was a real possibility). I guarantee you Saban wanted no part of playing either Boise or TCU as he did not want to be the team that found out just how good they may have been.

  55. gator_prof says: Sep 10, 2010 1:46 PM

    Saban over stated this a bit, but his general point is true. Boise would consistently be a 3-4 loss per year team in the SEC. As several people have rightly pointed out, a lack of depth would kill them in a quality conference with injuries and rotations.
    As far as Saban shooting off his mouth, last time I checked he has the hardware to back it up. The last time I checked, he has two titles with two different teams…not many coaches can boast that. He also has a very loaded team at present that are currently ranked number 1.
    A playoff would solve all of this and separated the contenders from the pretenders.

  56. cooper81 says: Sep 10, 2010 1:56 PM

    ‘As far as Saban shooting off his mouth, last time I checked he has the hardware to back it up’.
    He’s also had a propensity to say ridiculous things hardware has nothing to do with, but I won’t go there. The point was negative spin versus reputation… hardware or not it is what it is.

  57. chc4 says: Sep 10, 2010 2:05 PM

    edgy1957 says: Hell, the Directional Michigans gets 1/2 that to drive over to lay down for Michigan and Michigan State. Given the fact that Boise State is not only a better team but has to travel further, you damn right they have the nerve to ask for that much AND they deserve it.
    **********
    Point is Boise State can’t whine about no one playing them if they are making outrageous demands. Teams like Idaho State get big bucks from the Ohio State’s and Oklahoma’s to get their brains bashed in. Boise can’t expect a huge payout since they aren’t patsies. Isn’t that common sense?

  58. buckeyeboy says: Sep 10, 2010 2:41 PM

    everyone on here must realize you can’t argue with edgy…he is in love with boise state. If they played all 1-AA schools he would still say they are the best team in football. He then bitches about boise wanting $1,000,000 to play a big time team, saying they deserve it. He will then call everyone out who doesn’t wanna play them, and say they are weak. Why the hell would a team invite boise to their stadium, give them $1,000,000, then possibly have the shot at being upset?! No one would, they would rather take the scrub team and kill them for an easy victory. If boise wants to “play with the big boys” then stfu and go play places for free! You have had a few good seasons, that does not qualify you for whatever you want, so man up, don’t try and force a check, and play the game.

  59. JRJROR says: Sep 10, 2010 2:42 PM

    A Playoff is the ONLY answer to all these experts comments , until that happens this talk will go on forever.

  60. edgy1957 says: Sep 10, 2010 2:50 PM

    chc4 says:
    Point is Boise State can’t whine about no one playing them if they are making outrageous demands.
    ***********
    Outrageous, according to you? There are teams out there that aren’t any where near as GOOD or as POPULAR that are getting $800,000 to travel to some of these Big Boys stadiums and yet, all they want is $200k MORE to bring in not only a QUALITY opponent but a NATIONALLY televised game on one of the Big Boy Networks. For $200k, Big Bigot U gets a game on ABC and get more money for the broadcast OR they can save that $200k and play on ESPN3 and make roughly a lot less. Seriously, who do you think pays more: ABC, CBS or ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU, ESPN3 and ESPN8, The Ocho?

  61. edgy1957 says: Sep 10, 2010 2:54 PM

    About to make a few of you happy. Because of a data project (related to CFB), I will be working like a banshee and – may – not have it finished until Sunday BUT don’t take that as gospel as I have been known to get things done in less than 5 hours when it was supposed to take 5 days.
    Since it’s going to take me a few hours to set it up and I plan on watching the games tonight, I DEFINITELY won’t be looking in and answering today. Ta Ta. I know that a few of you will be dancing a jig in a few seconds when you get this. :)

  62. Soxpert says: Sep 10, 2010 3:12 PM

    They beat what is maybe, MAYBE, the third best team in the ACC and they deserve a shot in the National Championship Game?
    Boise runs a great program and I love watching them play, they are an exciting team.
    But one win over a ranked opponent and ten wins against teams that lets be honest, never even have a chance at making it into the Top Ten, just doesn’t qualify in my book.
    I would take a one loss SEC or Big Ten team over Boise State this year. To change my mind they are the one team that needs to put up style points. They need to crush the teams on their schedule.
    They need to beat teams like Toledo and San Jose State like drums. If they are winning games against FCS caliber teams 24-17, they don’t have a prayer of getting a shot at the big prize.

  63. blitz4848 says: Sep 10, 2010 3:38 PM

    EDGY is so full of himself he now will be announcing his comings and goings for all bloggers……..the response….>> STFU
    Know it all EDGY doesn’t seem to know it all after all:
    1. Big Boy teams share the money equally in the SEC so extra TV money is divided 12 ways
    2. ESPN signs a contract for a game but “they”
    have the right to give it to ABC or any of the ESPN family of networks.
    3. Edgy avoided why Boise St & TCU don’t lobby to join the Big12-2 to make it a real Big 12 again.
    Shhhhhh….Don’t say anything….because hopefully EDGY will keep his promise and STFU!!

  64. TTANGO says: Sep 10, 2010 3:40 PM

    Hold on
    The BCS takes into account the strenth of schedule in its calculations. This is why BSU always ends up ranked 4th 5th or 7th or what ever the last three years even after only loosing 1 game in three years. It also takes into account that they win by an average of 24 points a game. Using that argument as proof they don’t belong in the title game is pointless. If they end up ranked 2nd at the end of the season then they belong. Period
    Could thet hang in the SEC? Eventually, but not for the first three years in my opinion.
    However, when all things are considered at the end of the season they will be ranked 4th or 5th (if they win all games) again, and will play TCU or someone like them again and next year the arguments will begin again.
    Do they deserve a million to come to your house and hang? yes they do. Their ranked 3rd for christ sakes. Do any of the BCS contenders have the balls to have them come there. No they don’t. Can you blame them? I wouldn’t. Alabama, Florida et al pay MILLIONS a year for their own patsies.
    Don’t believe they deserve a million..look at the TV revenue shares for the BCS/VT game. The highest since the 70’s? Could you imagine the revenue shares for BSU at Florida?
    Lets face it..BSU is currently Americas’ favorite team right now.

  65. TTANGO says: Sep 10, 2010 3:48 PM

    I believe that it should read the highest opening game numbers since 1976. Which I read some where……hmmm where did I read that?
    Let me review that number

  66. TTANGO says: Sep 10, 2010 3:50 PM

    but first…lunch time..I mean, I am in Alaska

  67. jaypeso says: Sep 10, 2010 3:51 PM

    I don’t think anyone is saying that boise state can’t play with the big dogs on a one game basis. But saban as much as I hate him is right. week in and week out boise state can’t play with the big dogs… sorry but its the truth. And they can’t hang their season on two wins.

  68. blitz4848 says: Sep 10, 2010 4:12 PM

    Would love Boise to play TCU for BCS NC.
    That would be the beginning of the end of all this coulda, woulda, shoulda scenerios…………
    All the BCS conferences would immediately sit down and work out a plus one or some sort of playoff. No way are they going to allow Boise & TCU to sneak in the back door again if that happens.

  69. grandavenue says: Sep 10, 2010 4:21 PM

    Edgy,
    Boise demanded $1million for a 2-1. Which is ridiculous.
    Boise demanded 1.8 MILLION for the one and done!
    That’s 1 million more than the STANDARD rate!!
    How is that “anyone, anywhere, anytime”?!?!
    ANSWER THAT!
    You won’t because you can’t. You can’t challenge any callers and not answer the phone.
    You keep using ridiculous arguments to prove Boise should get a title shot.
    Penn State, how many Big Ten titles/Championship seasons do they have since 1993?

  70. pianomanrsn02 says: Sep 10, 2010 4:28 PM

    I just don’t think it dawns on Division 1 coaches that a team like Boise State can beat them. I think it is great that BS and TCU are shaking things up a bit.
    Regarding Saban bragging about beating Texas last January, he might show a little more humility. Without Colt McCoy, Texas really was not the same team. Their defense kept them in the game for a while and Gilbert showed some flashes of talent in the second half, but not enough. In my view, Texas at full strength would have beaten Alabama easily. That’s all woulda-shoulda-coulda stuff of course, but Saban ought to be more careful about puffing himself up and taking credit for everything.

  71. grandavenue says: Sep 10, 2010 4:36 PM

    Edgy,
    I get it. You feel Boise has done enough to be taken serious.
    But if you put out a challenge, and then when someone takes you up on that challenge, you can’t demand ridiculous terms that NO ONE would accept. Because then it looks like you are not serious about the challenge.
    3 games is not a championship season. period. NOT BOISE’s FAULT, but when they play 2 total BCS teams BEFORE their bowl game, who in their right mind would put them ahead of Alabama, Texas, Oklahoma, Nebraska, Ohio State, or Miami when those teams all play 5 or 6 teams equal or better than Boise’s opener, and then they play 3 or 4 teams that are better than the entire compliment of Boise’s conference schedule!?
    IT DOESN’T MAKE SENSE!! Period.
    I’d love to see Boise play the Big XII schedule. I wouldn’t claim they lose or win that. But at least we’d know, rather than having to debate whether they can hang in a WHOLE season with the rest. It’s not just about 2 or 3 games.
    You are so quick to argue that Boise should get lots of $$ because of TV revenue. Boise played a game on a monday night, 1st big game of the year, and NO compeptition. Boise should accept they are not part of the upper group in College Football, but they can EARN their way in. They have to pay their dues. Not just lay bluffs and complain.

  72. gator_prof says: Sep 10, 2010 4:38 PM

    Re: “Lets face it..BSU is currently Americas’ favorite team right now. ”
    Uhm, no they aren’t. It isn’t even close. They are an interesting novelty or conversational piece at best.
    Yes, they had a high rates for an isolated (i.e., zero competition) opening night game…9.9 million viewers and a 7.3 share on ESPN. This is nothing compared to the SEC title game…18 million viewers and a 11.8 share last year on CBS.
    Show me the jersey sales and wake me up with they crack the top 10.
    Boise is a great story and they are doing well, but don’t confuse them with a top program like UF, Bama, UTexas, etc.

  73. grandavenue says: Sep 10, 2010 4:38 PM

    To all people in this debate
    Wouldn’t we all be happier if it was actually decided on the field?
    I’d be happier if Boise, Houston, and TCU all had chances to take a step up to BCS conference play.

  74. pricecube says: Sep 10, 2010 4:52 PM

    ‘As far as Saban shooting off his mouth, last time I checked he has the hardware to back it up’.
    He didn’t have the hardware to back up sh!t when he faced the Utah Utes in the 2009 Sugar Bowl. I wonder what he thought of their schedule. They made the Bama their prison bitch.

  75. Who's Randy? says: Sep 10, 2010 5:13 PM

    Running the table in the WAC conference does NOT make you one of the two best teams in the country.
    I think most people would agree that any of the current Top 15 would win every game in the WAC if they swapped schedules with BS.
    That is NOT an asinine argument. It is an illustration that proves most reasonable people think the totality of a football schedule is significant when determining who is the 2 best teams in the country.
    BS understands this and that’s why they moved to the MWC. The MWC understands this and that’s why they didn’t want to lose the BYU membership.

  76. steelers rule says: Sep 10, 2010 5:23 PM

    I love how they SEC people talk about Boise State not playing anyone, however you never see any of them playing Boise State!

  77. blitz4848 says: Sep 10, 2010 6:50 PM

    @ steelers rule
    Boise wants too much money
    Their EQUAL–TCU is scheduled to play
    LSU, Arkansas & Ole Miss

  78. buckeyeboy says: Sep 10, 2010 7:14 PM

    @blitz4848
    exactly right, like i said in a previous post, if boise st wants to play with the big boys, they cannot want a check too. ohio state played usc the past 2 years for a home and home series. usc didn’t come to ohio state and demand $1 million to play cuz they “traveled a great distance”. boise st doesnt want to play the tough schools because they would lose most of the time. they make up for this by making outlandish demands for money and when a team doesn’t want to succumb to their extortion, boise st cries about how no one will play thme.

  79. nola says: Sep 10, 2010 7:54 PM

    As a die hard LSU fan, I am all to familiar with Saban (or as we like to call him…SATAN) and his “thoughts.”
    First,I would like to say, yes the SEC is a tough conference but while LSU is looking for a new coach to replace Les Miles guess who the fans want. None other that Boise state’s coach. So Saban might get his wish and play Peterson with LSU in the SEC. Please Peterson come to the dark side!
    Second, Saban is not all that awesome. There is a reason he didn’t make it as a NFL coach and had to come back to coach college football.
    Third, You can’t count on the Longhorns as a real team! They had a chance to change conferences and didn’t because (their excuse) we still want to play our revivals. REALLY?
    Real Women don’t date Bama Fans!!!
    Geaux Tigers!

  80. WingT says: Sep 10, 2010 8:20 PM

    What a thread ! Good one John Taylor
    We need a Playoff. And it needs to commence immediately following the conference championship games, no multi-week recovery time

  81. WingT says: Sep 10, 2010 8:42 PM

    blitz4848 says:
    September 10, 2010 11:27 AM ET
    @ Over the EDGY
    As usual you can’t read. You twist things to your narrow minded view point and then try to talk down to people.
    You are just pissed off about being an alter boy for 20 yrs before you realized you could get off your knees………
    ……………………………………………………………………………
    hey Blitz, lol, may I feel free to use that second paragrah of yours from time to time as if it’s my own? Or do I need to quote you?, LOL……too funny

  82. TTANGO says: Sep 10, 2010 8:46 PM

    Nebraska never wanted to play BSU and I don’t blame them. The purpose of OOC games are to win them, and there is a very good chance that Nebraska could lose that one.
    To come out and say they would not play because BSU wanted 1 millions dollars is flat out bull. They will pay 800,000 for Idaho but a million for BSU is outrageous?
    BSU scheduled a top 10 BCS contender for their OOC. Has any other BCS contender done likewise?
    Nebraska had no intentions of play BSU and used money as the excuse. BSU has no intentions of getting screwed by a team play 2-1 and then cancelling the game months before they play them.

  83. F*DeSmithANDObama says: Sep 10, 2010 9:56 PM

    Ask Colt McCoy’s shoulder if the SEC is bigger, stronger and faster than everyone else. Boise State went to Georgia and were shamed out there in front of the nation. The second stringers at an SEC school would be an all american in the powder puff conferences that Boise, Hawaii, etc. play in. Oh yeah, they won the National Championship for 5 of the last 7 years.

  84. miamijoe55 says: Sep 10, 2010 10:21 PM

    Until Alabama played Florida they didn’t play a single team as good as Virginia Tech during the season so Saban should just shut up. If people have a problem with Boise schedule them a home and home and don’t worry about losing a few bucks by going there. Man up or Shut Up.

  85. miamijoe55 says: Sep 10, 2010 10:22 PM

    Until Alabama played Florida they didn’t play a single team as good as Virginia Tech during the season so Saban should just shut up. If people have a problem with Boise schedule them a home and home and don’t worry about losing a few bucks by going there. Man up or Shut Up.

  86. husky92 says: Sep 11, 2010 12:26 AM

    I agree…Nick shut the hell up and worry about Joe Pa!
    Of course Boise State would struggle more if they had to play an SEC or Big 10 or Pac-10 schedule, but they aren’t in those conferences so it’s a moot point. The SEC folks can make all the noise they want about their league being difficult, and it is but I get sick of every one of their fans thinking no one else in the country plays football. How about Utah!
    Boise State and some of these others also don’t have the built-in recruting advantages either. They don’t have multi-million dollar weight rooms, indoor facilities, 20 strength coaches and an unlimited budget. They also recruit from a different part of the country where the athletes aren’t nearly as good as the ones from Florida, Georgia, etc. That’s the reality of it. Boise State, Utah and others recruit from California, Washington, etc. It’s a different ball game for them and most of the time they get the kids that USC, Oregon and Cal might pass on.
    So give them credit. It’s a great story and great for college football. It’s what makes it what it is.

  87. David says: Sep 11, 2010 5:18 AM

    Do what Saban did when he got to Bama. Schedule Clemson (top 10 )
    Va Tech ( top 10 )
    Play Georgia ( top 10 ) You earn respect, it is not given for free. Georgia kicked the Broncos teeth in and hey, Boise would be a lot richer if they played a Real Powerhouse. Ask Colin on The Herd ( ESPN Radio ) he will enlighten all you Boise fans better than Saban did.

  88. dafool99 says: Sep 11, 2010 8:43 AM

    F*DeSmithANDObama
    u don’t have to ask Cart Mccoy’s shoulder if the SEC is bigger, stronger, and faster, because that is the should that K-state and A&M took out a couple of seasons ago that gave him his nickname.

  89. edgy1957 says: Sep 11, 2010 10:25 AM

    blitz4848 says:
    EDGY is so full of himself he now will be announcing his comings and goings for all bloggers……..the response….>> STFU
    **************************
    Here’s the difference between us: I answer the questions, no matter how uncomfortable it might make me but YOU avoid them like the plague. Really, WHEN are you going to answer the question of why Florida is afraid to play outside of the state. I mean, even Alabama takes trips to other places.
    I announced it so that I wouldn’t have to listen to people like you saying that I’m ducking them – LIKE YOU DO. So, YOU STFU.
    The rest of you, I’ll be back tomorrow to answer your questions so don’t think that I’m blitzing you.

  90. DCroz says: Sep 11, 2010 2:57 PM

    Considering Florida’s struggles in two games it should have won easily, Ole Miss’s loss to FCS Jax State, LSU’s more-than-likely throwing up on themselves the second half of the season, South Carolina’s more-than-likely throwing up on themselves the second half of the season, Arkansas’s more-than-likely crash-n-burn, and Tennessee’s well-publicized troubles, Alabama might also wind up playing only one or two good teams before the BCS Championship Game.
    This from a ‘Bama and SEC fan, by the way…

  91. CaptainMarvel says: Sep 11, 2010 8:21 PM

    I hope Boise wins the national title (even though their schedule is crap). In fact, I always root for a split title, or anything to mess things up. Anything to FINALLY get a playoff. It’s a complete, total, absolute JOKE not to have a playoff.

  92. edgy1957 says: Sep 11, 2010 10:08 PM

    grandavenue says:
    Boise demanded $1million for a 2-1. Which is ridiculous.
    ****************
    I don’t know what FICTITIOUS source you have for your $1.8 million demand for one game but I do know that every CREDIBLE source has said that Boise wants $1 million for a SINGLE GAME. Please post a link that doesn’t go to some Cornhusker forum to validate your $1.8 for a single game demand. Sounds more like something they’d ask for in a 2 for 1.

  93. edgy1957 says: Sep 11, 2010 10:11 PM

    For those who keep bringing up the links that you can’t see: that’s because they’re in a different message. You didn’t see me post them because I was referring to the fact that I DID post them and waited a LONG time for a reply but never got one. I’m not posting them again because the guy who I aimed it as has shown that he’d rather not deal with facts outside of what he wants to post himself. You can search for them and find them.

  94. Deb says: Sep 11, 2010 11:10 PM

    You were saying, JT????
    Nick wasn’t being the least bit snarky or condescending in that interview. Bama had a dramatically tougher schedule than Boise this year, even before today. Now, if Boise is counting on Virginia Tech for its cache into the top rank … oops.
    It gets old trying to soothe the egos of those who keep whining about attention paid to the SEC. It’s a viciously competitive conference where football is life and teams routinely try to murder each other. When you play in that atmosphere, the one left standing has EARNED its ranking. That fans from other conferences feel the need to CONSTANTLY insist the SEC’s really not THAT good says it all.

  95. calib says: Sep 12, 2010 11:37 AM

    There’s been some bold talk this week out of the Boise State camp of supporters. Nobody in a big-boy conference will play Boise. You think that you can beat the Broncos? Give them a call. We dare you.
    Nebraska called. Nebraska tried.
    In the past year, NU tried to put together a series with BSU; two-for-one, home-and-home, one-way trip to Lincoln. Whatever. It ended up fizzling out. Why?
    Because, according to NU Assistant Athletic Director Jeff Jamrog, Boise wanted a minimum $1 million to play in Lincoln.
    Geez, no wonder the Broncos can’t get anyone to play them. Pay Boise State $1 million to come to your town? Sorry, don’t want it that bad.
    Quoted from here : http://omaha.com/article/20100908/SPORTS/709089803/0
    I don’t care one way or the other. Someone asked about this so this is apparently the answer.

  96. Buckeye1 says: Sep 12, 2010 8:05 PM

    We have a playoff, It’s called schedules.

  97. Deb says: Sep 13, 2010 12:34 PM

    @Buckeye1 …
    Uh-huh. Well, my SEC team decimated your Big 10 team Saturday night. Schedule away.

  98. Buckeye1 says: Sep 13, 2010 2:01 PM

    @Deb …
    What are you talking about? We played Miami, which is not an SEC school.

  99. Codebeard says: Sep 13, 2010 2:10 PM

    THEBIGTUSK says:
    September 10, 2010 10:12 AM ET
    Mr. Taylor, your jab at the SEC and Coach Saban is a bit unwarranted, don’t you think? The SEC is a very competitive conference. If you don’t think so then look at the last 4 NC’s……With very little opposition. Those games were not even close. All Coach was trying to say is….. If you have very competitive competition week in and week out….then you lose your endurance, health, depth, and will. If you skate all year long, then aren’t you as refreshed and healthy at the end of the year….as you was in the beginning. Oh and by the way the Boise coach said if there was a playoff….he did not think is team would fare all that well. Mr. Taylor have you ever played football? I think you should do more research on the subject. I think you should re-think your concepts…..GOOD DAY

    You’re contradicting yourself (as is Saban). On the one hand, an SEC team has a much tougher schedule and is more worn down because of how rough the road through the SEC is… and yet they easily win title after title? What? It sounds to me like being constantly challenged would make a team better prepared for a national title game appearance than a cupcake schedule would because you’re testing yourself against top-notch talent and keeping your skills sharp – and the results apparently show that to be true. Mr. BIGTUSK, have you ever formed a coherent argument? You might want to rethink your own concepts before you criticize others for theirs. Good day.

  100. Deb says: Sep 13, 2010 2:30 PM

    @Buckeye1 …
    I’m talking about all the BIG-MOUTH Big 10 fans who’ve been all over this site for months carrying on that the SEC is a nothing conference yada yada yada that won’t schedule Big 10 teams And how your schedules are sooooo tough yada yada. And how everyone in the universe is soooooo afraid to schedule (suppresses laugh) Boise. So Calib points out that no one is afraid to schedule Boise; they’re just not worth a million-dollars to bigger, better schools.
    And you pop on with more nonsense about the Big 10 and their schedules. (It’s like boys in a shower endlessly bragging about their penises. Those who have don’t have to brag.)
    So I simply pointed out that an SEC team (Alabama) ground your conference’s rep (Penn State–which is still in Ohio State’s conference, correct?) into the dust Saturday night. Since you made a comment about the conference, I replied with a comment about the CONFERENCE, not specifically about Ohio State (she rolls her eyes).

  101. s says: Sep 14, 2010 1:08 PM

    The SEC is the best Conference(bar non). It is the only Conference that any team in it can beat another team in the SEC on any given day. The rest can’t say that. Saban or Meyers are the best coaches in college football. Do any of you really think that BSU could take the pounding the SEC gives each and every week to each other? Going undefeated in the SEC is a wonder these days. That’s why the Champ of the SEC goes on to play in the BCS champ game.(even with 1 lose) It looks as if they are trying to get BSU in the big Game…..so look for it. Just like Ohio St. found out when it comes to the BIG GAME the SEC and FL RULE. The winner of the FL – ALA game(1st or 2nd.) will win the BCS Champ Game. No matter what or whom the other team will be. If you want to be a true Champ come join the SEC.

  102. Tidefanindc says: Sep 15, 2010 9:42 PM

    Lets first agree that a coach who in 3 short years took a program that hadn’t won anything in a long time to winning the Nat Champ has forgotten more football than the aggregate of this page knows. Second, I was at the Boise State vs VT game and VT had that game won. The VT last offensive series had a few weird calls and the refs blew two calls in BSU’s favor to give them great field position on their last possession. And then VT loses to a 1-AA program at home the next week. Come on, BSU couldn’t hang in the top 1/3 of the SEC.

  103. BoiseBug says: Oct 9, 2010 4:33 PM

    Saban should put his vote for Boise this week after his pathetic showing during the first half of the Alabama vs So. Carolina game. I guess he forgot all out about Alabama’s butt whoopin’ against Utah. If is is so concerned about strength of schedule why is he to scared to play a “cupcake” like Boise? Boise will play any team anywhere anytime; they have said it and they mean it. They will play a WAC team like San Jose State, but too scared to ever schedule Boise.

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