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Atop the first BCS standings is … Oklahoma?

Since the mere thought of the BCS turns John Taylor into the Incredible Hulk (you won’t like him when he’s angry), I thought I’d give him a free pass and recap the first BCS standings for 2010.

The controversial ranking system starts off with a boom(er) as Oklahoma sits atop the first set of standings. The Sooners (6-0) are ranked fourth in the Harris Poll and third according to the USA Today, but are first in the computer rankings.

Personally, having Oklahoma ranked first seems a little odd. If you asked a group of experts who they thought the number one team in the country was, I doubt you’d hear Oklahoma at all. That’s not to say Oklahoma hasn’t reeled off some big wins, but the Sooners haven’t played like a top-10 team at times this season, let alone a No. 1 team.

No. 2 is Oregon, who ranks first in Harris, AP and USA Today polls, but falls to eighth according to the computer rankings. We can only assume the computer (nicknamed HAL) hasn’t seen Oregon completely dominate its competition this year. BCS busters Boise State and TCU are No. 3 and No. 5, respectively, and the undefeated Auburn Tigers are No. 4.

LSU, Michigan State, Alabama, Utah and Ohio State, who was upset by then No. 18 Wisconsin last night, round out the BCS Top-10.

BCS RANKINGS

1 Oklahoma 6-0

2 Oregon 6-0

3 Boise State 6-0

4 Auburn 7-0

5 TCU 7-0

6 LSU 7-0

7 Michigan State 7-0

8 Alabama 6-1

9 Utah 6-0

10 Ohio State 6-1

11 Missouri 6-0

12 Stanford 5-1

13 Wisconsin 6-1

14 Oklahoma State 6-0

15 Iowa 5-1

16 Nebraska 5-1

17 Florida State 6-1

18 Arizona 5-1

19 Texas 4-2

20 West Virginia 5-1

21 South Carolina 4-2

22 Kansas State 5-1

23 Arkansas 4-2

24 Mississippi State 5-2

25 Virginia Tech 5-2

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76 Responses to “Atop the first BCS standings is … Oklahoma?”
  1. crazyguy says: Oct 17, 2010 9:53 PM

    They must not have used edge’s logistics.

  2. wrath4771 says: Oct 17, 2010 9:57 PM

    Popping Florida State seems to please the mighty computer. Oregon played some high school teams at the beginning of the season and that should hurt them. Boise was smart and played Virginia Tech and Oregon State before both teams realized they were pretty good. They don’t have the talent level of Oregon or Alabama, but Michigan State is vastly underrated. For the first time since I can remember, this is a Spartans team that doesn’t shoot itself in the foot.

  3. edgy1957 says: Oct 17, 2010 9:57 PM

    I don’t think that it’s hard to believe. I rate their schedule as the 2nd best among the Top 20 programs and even Sagarin rates it the second best among the Top 20. If you take a discernign look at who they’ve played and who the others have played, it’s hard to fault the fact that they’ve done well against a much better schedule than others. Anderson & Hester and Billingsley have them 3rd and only their ranking of LSU as 1st, keeps the Sooners from sweeping #1 in the computers (They got 98 of out 100 points).

  4. Deb says: Oct 17, 2010 10:00 PM

    Okay.
    Hoped we’d move up a space. But, okay. I can live with #8.
    And my alma mater Mizzou is at 11. That’s smile-worthy.
    As for the rest … meh. But I hope LSU swallows Auburn whole like a snake swallowing a rat.
    ROLL TIDE!!

  5. edgy1957 says: Oct 17, 2010 10:08 PM

    # crazyguy says:
    They must not have used edge’s logistics.
    **************************
    You do realize that I have Oklahoma as #1, which would put them at #1 in the standings.

  6. edgy1957 says: Oct 17, 2010 10:33 PM

    BTW, Ben, if you’re going to make an argument FOR Oregon, you need to find more than just Stanford to hang their hat on. Their schedule is a JOKE right now. New Mexico, Portland State, Washington State? That’s 3-16 for those national “powers” and the team with the most wins, Portland State, got them against FCS competition and Washington State also got its only win against an FCS team. After that, it’s Tennessee and Arizona State, 5-7 combined — WOO HOO — AND 1 of Tennessee’s wins was against an FCS team while TWO – count ‘em – TWO of ASU’s wins were against FCS opponents. The only team that has a winning record is Stanford and one of THEIR wins was against an FCS team (In other words, of the 13 wins by Oregon’s opponents, 7 have come against FCS opponents). Their SOS is .492, which is 94th among the 120 BCS schools.
    On the other hand, Oklahoma has 3 teams with winning records, 1 with a .500 record and two that are just below .500 and they have an SOS of .602, which is 19th in the nation and only 5 of their opponent’s 23 wins came against FCC opponents.

  7. edgy1957 says: Oct 17, 2010 10:34 PM

    Oops, I meant that I had Oklahoma #2 (Auburn is my #1).

  8. burntorangehorn says: Oct 17, 2010 11:00 PM

    Without margin of victory in computer rankings, Oklahoma was a pretty strong candidate for #1 in the computers. I hadn’t fully expected to see that end up being enough to push them ahead of two teams in the coaches’ poll and three teams in the Harris, but it doesn’t really surprise me much.

  9. grandavenue says: Oct 17, 2010 11:19 PM

    Edgy, nobody cares about your rating system. You are an anonymous poster on CFT’s articles… who the heck do you think you are?! Kirk “pissy” Herbstreit?! “You do realize I have OU rated blah blah blah”. So what?! Some people really think they are important. For NO reason at all. Just that they figured out how to type and hit “submit”. JT and Florio are so going to hire you! Oh man, you make ridiculous arguments and spend hours posting here! You clearly should get hired onto the staff. Or maybe just stop thinking anyone gives a CRAP about who you rate where.
    Oklahoma can thank Nebraska, mostly Niles “no hands” Paul for losing to Texas. That gave Texas a better rating and made OU look better.
    Clearly, Boise better hope for massive upsets. They got NO shot now. Virginia Tech is even rated, and Boise still gets no help with their ratings.
    Maybe they should demand ridiculous money to play Alabama, Nebraska, or Oregon much later in the season?! There’s a thought…

  10. buckeyeboy says: Oct 17, 2010 11:32 PM

    Im amazed that OSU is 10th and still above Wisconsin. the computers hate the buckeyes and they didnt drop too far, but hey still good for the bucks!
    O-H!

  11. grandavenue says: Oct 17, 2010 11:36 PM

    I love ya Edgy. ;)
    *It’s way to early to worry about Rankings still. See: Alabama, Ohio State, and Oklahoma in the Big XII title game.*

  12. Deb says: Oct 17, 2010 11:40 PM

    If Auburn is your #1, you’re out of your mind. I just pulled up their schedule and came over here to ask why the heck a school that hasn’t played anyone is #4? Good grief.

  13. AxlTCU says: Oct 17, 2010 11:42 PM

    OU #1 is just more proof that this system is terrible. They are far from the best in the country.

  14. edgy1957 says: Oct 17, 2010 11:47 PM

    grandavenue says: October 17, 2010 11:19 PM ET
    Edgy, nobody cares about your rating system.
    ********************************
    So? Do you really think that I’m so far off or are you just afraid of technology? I think that YOU don’t have a clue as to how the computers work and how they’re differing for YOUR HUMAN BIASES. I think it’s funny how you and others go on and on about teams and their worthiness and YET, you don’t take one single second or even a millisecond to look at the competition or lack thereof. It’s why people like you push Ohio State and Oregon, despite the fact that they have strength of schedule issues that put them as one of the worse in FBS and at this point, below that of Boise State and FAR BELOW Oklahoma. If you weren’t spending your time trying to piss and moan about why Boise State is ranked so high, you might actually put some time into research and realize WHY the computers are killing Ohio State and Oregon.
    Oh and if you think that I’m angling for a job here, you’re a frigging moron. Seriously, are you THE ONE that wants a job here and feel threatened by me or what? Jesus, you’ve been one of the dumbest people here short of Robert The Human Irish Lawsuit and even then I think you might even be dumber than him.

  15. edgy1957 says: Oct 17, 2010 11:51 PM

    # grandavenue says:
    *It’s way to (sic) early to worry about Rankings still. See: Alabama, Ohio State, and Oklahoma in the Big XII title game.*
    **************************
    You know, I have a done a projection and you’d shit in your pants if you ever saw what teams it had as #1 and #2 and I’ll give you a hint: Boise State isn’t one of them. Oh, I’m sorry, I spoiled your fun, retard (I also say retard because you can’t have Alabama OR Ohio State in the Big XII title game).

  16. edgy1957 says: Oct 18, 2010 12:33 AM

    # Deb says: October 17, 2010 11:40 PM ET
    If Auburn is your #1, you’re out of your mind. I just pulled up their schedule and came over here to ask why the heck a school that hasn’t played anyone is #4? Good grief.
    ****************************
    You need to go back over your schedule. You and the rest of the people need to understand that the computers are FORBIDDEN from taking margin of victory into account and this accounts for the fact that the OFFICIAL computers have Auburn ranked 2nd twice, third once, 4th once, 5th once and 8th once. I’m going to guess that this is all 20 spots where your Tide heart would put them. Auburn’s SOS is .554, which is 50th and better than what many of the other contenders have. They’ve beaten 3 teams with winning records, 2 with .500 records and only 1 with a losing record.
    FYI, Oklahoma, LSU, Auburn, Michigan State and TCU are 1 through 5 according to the computers. Oregon, whom I have as 10th are considered the 8th best by the computers and their lowest ranking was 11th. I think you people need to look at the numbers from the other computers before you criticize me just to criticize me.

  17. edgy1957 says: Oct 18, 2010 12:41 AM

    I hear all the crap about “who are you” and “you don’t know anything” so I thought I’d give you a little observation from Ivan Maisel, who talks after the fact about Ohio State and Nebraska (Last week, I took crap for having them rated 7th and 10th):
    Nebraska and Ohio State each came out of the locker room Saturday as if they didn’t understand that their games would be played at full speed. And you can’t blame them if they didn’t. Both engorged themselves on junk-food schedules before having the misfortune to play a ranked conference opponent (or previously ranked, in the case of Texas) early in league play. FCS and MAC teams are good for the financials. They’re not the best way to prepare for the real world.

  18. burntorangehorn says: Oct 18, 2010 1:12 AM

    Could I have a job here? I’m sick of not getting paid to obsess about college football.
    What’s that JT and BK? I have to take a number and stand in line behind grandavenue and edgy?
    Fine.

  19. buckeyeboy says: Oct 18, 2010 7:02 AM

    another day, another thread with edgy yelling at everyone trying to get his point across

  20. BC says: Oct 18, 2010 9:17 AM

    Wow. No love for Michigan State….

  21. BrownsTown says: Oct 18, 2010 9:28 AM

    Oklahoma has proved it on the field. I’m not shocked by this ranking.
    edgy,
    So Ivan Maisel considers Texas a good opponent b/c they used to be ranked, but he doesn’t consider The U a good opponent when they’ve followed the same path? Or tell me which top 10 teams, outside of OU, played a challenging schedule thus far.
    I guess when you’re selective, you can make anything sound logical.

  22. Deb says: Oct 18, 2010 10:43 AM

    @edge …
    As I said, I came to the thread for the purpose of asking why a team that hasn’t played anyone but Arkansas is ranked number 4 … and when I got here found you saying they should be number 1! That’s the only reason I commented. Told you I can be objective about football … okay, well, maybe not so much about Auburn.
    I haven’t been taking the shots at you that everyone else has been taking–and that would be very easy to do. For one, I have too much to do to get into a flame war over all this mathematical nonsense that I consider complete insanity. As I’ve said ad nauseum, this is why I prefer the pros. Rankings are decided solely by the win/loss record. For another, I wouldn’t give you that much of my attention. I made my point with the links to back it. That gave me peace where you’re concerned. At least you were just silent on it rather than coming back and screaming “bitch” like the other guy who drew blood just did. Puts you a slight step up.

  23. edgy1957 says: Oct 18, 2010 11:01 AM

    BrownsTown says:
    So Ivan Maisel considers Texas a good opponent b/c they used to be ranked, but he doesn’t consider The U
    *******************
    Yeah, that’s it, read it completely out of context so you can try to turn it back on Maisel. First of all, he considers Texas AND Wisconsin as good opponents and as for Miami, you guys keep bitch slapping Virginia Tech for losing twice and seem to forget that they were actually ranked higher than Miami when Boise played them. Can’t have it both ways, guys. He wasn’t favoring Nebraska over Ohio State, he was pointing out that BOTH had fed on cupcakes.
    Let’s not forget that for last week’s games that Ohio State’s strength of schedule was .505, which was 89th out of 120 BCS schools while Nebraska’s was .530, which was 70th and in between both, at .519, was Oregon. This is RAW strength of schedule. That doesn’t factor in what I use, which is to downgrade wins against FCS schools, which would hurt Oregon more than any of the three.
    Look, you can complain all you want but up until Ohio State played Wisconsin, their best opponent was Miami, who has been slapped around by both of the ranked opponents that they played and the fact is that Nebraska has no wins over any significant opponents and that’s why Maisel blamed their early schedule on not being ready for their close ups this week.
    As for the rest, I posted the SOS of the Top 10 last week and guess what, Ohio State and Oregon were at the bottom of the Top 10 and most of them were significantly better than Ohio State, Oregon and Nebraska. I’ll post the Top 10 SOS for this week, just for you (Rank – BCS Ranking. Rnk – SOS Rank. CR – How the computers ranked them):

    } Rank  Team              SOS  Rnk   CR
    |    1  Oklahoma         .602   19    1
    |    2  Oregon           .492   94    8
    |    3  Boise State      .551   56    7
    |    4  Auburn           .555   50    3
    |    5  TCU              .536   69    5
    |    6  LSU              .601   20    2
    |    7  Michigan State   .553   53    4
    |    8  Alabama          .588   26   12
    |    9  Utah             .448  112   11
    |   10  Ohio State       .516   80   14
    

    BTW, I’ve mentioned the crappy schedules of all the teams but you — gasp — are the one that’s got selective memory.

  24. boogerman17 says: Oct 18, 2010 12:22 PM

    I did not know computers could smoke pot but these computers have (or wait, it might be their programers!). If “your computer” spits out Oklahoma as #1 you either dropped it on the ground or you the programer is just plain stupid. Oklahoma beat Cincinnati by 2 point and Cincy had 4 turnovers. And LSU at #2?! That’s the dumbest shit i have ever seen. They are the worst of the ten unbeaten teams. Get rid of this computer crap and let someone that actually has eyes and a real brain set these rankings. How about the fans poll????
    Lets go fans, take this crap over until we force them into a playoff. John Saunders has to be in hiding somewhere. I can’t wait for Sports Reporters on Sunday morning

  25. blitz4848 says: Oct 18, 2010 12:56 PM

    My Bottom 10
    1. Edgy1957 – talks to a mirror
    2. Edgy1958 – fingers glued to keyboard
    3. Edgy1959 – posts on 140 blogs daily-scary
    4. Edgy1960 – says BCS = Boise Choir School
    5. Edgy1961 – is paid by the word for blogging
    6. Edgy1962 – noone will be my friend
    7. Edgy1963 – born a Jehovah’s witness
    8. Edgy1964 – likes to knock on doors to talk
    9. Edgy1965 – thinking about cloning myself
    10. Edgy1966 – thinks 1957 is a God

  26. edgy1957 says: Oct 18, 2010 12:58 PM

    boogerman17 says:
    Oklahoma as #1 you either dropped it on the ground or you the programer is just plain stupid. Oklahoma beat Cincinnati by 2 point
    *******************
    That’s the problem with the HUMAN polls. Oregon beat New Mexico by 72 points and Portland State by 69 while Oklahoma played a MUCH BETTER team in Cincinnati. The computers USED to take that into account but the HUMAN pollsters insisted that it be taken out and it was. The reason is that the programmers penalized teams for running up the score so they decided that it was better not to have teams suffer from running up the score while they, the humans, could still consider it without penalizing the teams.

  27. Lucky5927 says: Oct 18, 2010 1:06 PM

    None of this matters as these projections will change from week to week. What matters is a team like Oklahoma controls its own destiny, as does the winner of Auburn-LSU. I think Auburn, LSU, and Alabama all finish with at least 10 wins. So if the winner of the LSU-AUBURN game can run the table, they will leap frog everyone and face Oklahoma in the BCS Game based on quality wins and strength of Schedule. Auburn’s gonna take down LSU, but will continue to struggle against teams that can pass like Bama or Georgia. But Cam Newton has been a beast as a dual threat and will be tough to stop. But that Auburn Secondary also could equally hold the Tigers back.

  28. edgy1957 says: Oct 18, 2010 1:20 PM

    blitz4848 says:
    My Bottom 10
    *****************
    I see that you’ve finally showed your face after watching Florida take in on the chin 3 weeks in a row but not having to worry about that this week since they’re off and you won’t be embarrassed for the 4th week in a row by picking them to win.

  29. BrownsTown says: Oct 18, 2010 1:34 PM

    edgy1957,
    Like I said, when you’re selective…..and who defines SOS by opponents’ winning %? If any school plays the cream of the MAC crop, is that an achievement? Is Temple better than Florida? Temple has a better record. So does Nevada. And Hawaii. And UTEP.

  30. BrownsTown says: Oct 18, 2010 1:37 PM

    Miami (4-2) lost to two top 25 teams. Texas lost to Oklahoma (ranked) and UCLA (3-3….not ranked). I’m still struggling how you would count Texas as quality opponent (pre-matchup vs. Nebraska), but not Miami.
    A: selectivity.
    The model is only as good as its design. Your model is questionable.

  31. buckeyeboy says: Oct 18, 2010 1:54 PM

    @brownstown
    you are exactly right. edgy and his “computer analysis” decide SOS when it suits each team. If it doesnt favor his boise boys of blue, then the method is incorrect in thinking, but if it goes against a big school, which edgy himself hates, then its all speed ahead with giving a schedule ranking that doesnt suit them.
    that being said, it is laughable to say OSU’s schedule is 60 spots behind LSU’s. lsu was able to survive against a depleted UNC team that had nothing and still is nothing (regardless of where they started), then stole two against florida and tennessee. Edgy would argue about this because he uses his terrible logic to support his computers ludicrous statements.

  32. Deb says: Oct 18, 2010 2:24 PM

    boogerman17 says:
    I did not know computers could smoke pot but these computers have (or wait, it might be their programers!). If “your computer” spits out Oklahoma as #1 you either dropped it on the ground or you the programer is just plain stupid.
    ————————————————
    Excellent!
    @Blitz …
    Glad to see you back. Know it’s been a rough year–the whole SEC is turned upside down. Not sure what’s going on in Gainesville other than the obvious loss of Tebow, but they’ll right that ship at some point.

  33. edgy1957 says: Oct 18, 2010 2:26 PM

    BrownsTown says: October 18, 2010 1:34 PM ET
    edgy1957,
    Like I said, when you’re selective…..and who defines SOS by opponents’ winning %?
    **************************
    Sigh. You continue to show that you have absolutely NO IDEA about this crap with your stupid statements. SOS has several definitions and the one that the NFL uses is different from what BCS computers uses but we’re concerned with the latter and not the former so here’s an explanation from an impartial source:
    http://www.laxpower.com/update07/ex_sos.php
    You whine about this crap but you don’t even have a clue.
    FYI, Florida SOS – .608, 14the in FBS. Temple, .489, 96th, Nevada, .528, 73th, Hawaii, .540, 63rd and UTEP, .339, 120th or DEAD LAST. You whiffed big time on this one. The weaker a team’s opponents are and the weaker their opponent’s opponents are, the worse their strength of schedule.

  34. edgy1957 says: Oct 18, 2010 2:36 PM

    BrownsTown says: October 18, 2010 1:37 PM ET
    Miami (4-2) lost to two top 25 teams. Texas lost to Oklahoma (ranked) and UCLA (3-3….not ranked). I’m still struggling how you would count Texas as quality opponent (pre-matchup vs. Nebraska), but not Miami.
    **********************
    Here YOU go, again. Buckwheat, I didn’t say that they were a non-quality opponent. I said that until Ohio State faced Wisconsin, the BEST opponent that they had faced was Miami, who had been slapped around by the two ranked teams that they had played. I didn’t say any of the crap you are now starting to attribute to me, MAISEL DID, so stop trying to misconstrue my words because from now on, I’ll just call your characterization an OUT RIGHT LIE. The only thing that I said about Miami is that you guys are pointing to them as a ranked team at the time of the game and calling them a quality win while you’re pissing all over Boise State for beating a higher ranked Virginia Tech team. You can’t have it both ways. Either the rankings meant something for both teams or they mean nothing for both teams. You can’t have it one way or the other.

  35. edgy1957 says: Oct 18, 2010 3:02 PM

    buckeyeboy says:
    @brownstown
    you are exactly right. edgy and
    **************
    I guess YOU need a lesson in strength of schedule, as well but then again, you also need lessons on reading comprehension so I’m not surprised that math goes over your head.
    As for you moronic statement about LSU, I’m sure that you’re too oblivious to the fact that Alabama STOLE a game against Tennessee, had to rally from an 11 point 4th quarter deficit against LSU and didn’t go ahead for good against Auburn until there was little over a minute left and had to hold off a late charge and yet, they won the National Championship last year. Ironically, they started off the season with a win against VT, who led going into the 4th quarter. In 2008, Florida won the national championship, despite the fact that they lose to Ole Miss and in 2006, when they won it, they barely beat Tennessee and South Carolina, held off late rallies by Vanderbilt, Georgia, Florida State and Arkansas and got spanked by Auburn. In 2007, when LSU won it, they lost to Kentucky and won several close games like they did this year. I hate to tell you this but the SEC does play a lot of close games against each other and even the best teams need a little luck to go undefeated. The last 4 national champions have been SEC teams and only last year’s Alabama team made it through the entire season without a mark (The 2008 Tide got to the SEC championship game undefeated but lost its last two).

  36. BrownsTown says: Oct 18, 2010 3:29 PM

    edgy1957,
    So you posted Maisel’s analysis not because you echoed that sentiment, but just because?
    You’re spinning like a top. Power down that Commodore 64 and take the rest of the day to clear the mind. You going back-to-back-to-back on posts shows me you’re about to have an aneurysm.
    You can start rebuilding your model from scratch tomorrow.

  37. abbey says: Oct 18, 2010 4:05 PM

    The BCS continues to be a mystery. Lets do away with the computer BS or at least minimize
    it. Every year it’s a joke when a team who beats another is ranked below them. Abbey

  38. edgy1957 says: Oct 18, 2010 4:07 PM

    BrownsTown says: October 18, 2010 3:29 PM ET
    edgy1957,
    So you posted Maisel’s analysis not because you echoed that sentiment, but just because?
    ****************
    I don’t echo his sentiment about Miami BUT I do echo his sentiment — and YOU DON’T GET IT – that BOTH Ohio State and Nebraska fed on a cream puff schedule. My God, you guys are gigging on Boise’s schedule SO FAR and it’s a hell of a lot better than what either of them have played BUT and I can’t say this enough times for you guys to get it into your head – it’s going to get worse. Seriously, at what point are you going to admit that playing Eastern (1-6) Michigan isn’t the kind of game that prepares you to play against REAL teams? The same goes for Nebraska taking on South Dakota State (and even wore, struggling against them).
    The fact that you won’t comment on being schooled about how strength of schedule is REALLY computed and how an opponent’s opponent results effect them, shows that you’re too embarrassed to admit that you didn’t know what you’re talking about.

  39. buckeyeboy says: Oct 18, 2010 4:38 PM

    @edgy
    when you realize that NO ONE gives a shit about you and your computers. WE GET IT YOU WRITE IN CAPITAL LETTERS TO TRY AND LOOK LIKE YOU KNOW SOMETHING…..but wait (its a fail).
    Brownstown, Deb, Blitz4848, Grandavenue all want to get onto collegefootballtalk.com to talk about college football! Instead they are faced with some jackass jumping on them about everything they say. Is this an open forum or what? I missed the part where edgy decided he was going to be the moderator and jury to EVERY SINGLE COMMENT!
    there are 38 comments on this blog as of I am writing this, and 15 of those are from edgy jumping on the backs of, and insulting, every person who comes on here and wants to give an opinion. WE DONT CARE WHO YOU THINK IS RIGHT. if one person thinks that Oregon, or Osu, or Auburn is #1, then who are you to say that they are wrong? who made you the king of the internet?
    please put the keyboard away, go outside, and live your life. you are trying to bully everyone into your opinion, but you dont realize that its not middle school on here.
    Brownstown can have an opinion. Deb can have an opinion. Blitz can have an opinion. they should not be forced to listen to your self aggrandizing, ego-inflated, day late and dollar shortin, wal-marts most wanted, late to your first day of work, Abe Vigotaing, annoying, tiny-little-man speech.
    That is all.

  40. BrownsTown says: Oct 18, 2010 4:59 PM

    edgy,
    I don’t need schooled on SOS, I need schooled on your SOS. You seem to overweight by opponents’ record.
    Do I need to become your 5th subscriber to get hold of this data for reverse engineering? Do you accept PayPal?

  41. edgy1957 says: Oct 18, 2010 7:05 PM

    buckeyeboy says:
    @edgy
    when you realize that NO ONE gives a shit about you and your computers.
    ****************************
    Funny, if you go back and look at this thread, I haven’t said anything until someone said it to me or are you going to try to characterize that as false, as well. No, that’s right, it’s easier to lie than to admit that you’re screwed up.

  42. edgy1957 says: Oct 18, 2010 7:11 PM

    BrownsTown says:
    I don’t need schooled on SOS, I need schooled on your SOS. You seem to overweight by opponents’ record.
    *************************
    Why don’t you get off your ass and compute them to find out how stupid you are. FYI, the way that I compute them is actually BETTER for Ohio State than the way that the BCS does it. They would compute an opponents record based purely on wins and losses, which was 13-19 before last week while I remove any losses to Ohio State and bring it up to 13-13 so the SOS that I compute is actually HIGHER than what the computers polls use, genius.

  43. ShaKey says: Oct 18, 2010 7:25 PM

    I’d like my screen name to be changed to
    “Abe Vigota: King of the Internet”

  44. buckeyeboy says: Oct 18, 2010 7:36 PM

    edgy
    why dont you get off your ass and go outside and get off the website beeyotch
    hey btw boise sux, ik that hurts u on the inside lol

  45. edgy1957 says: Oct 18, 2010 8:43 PM

    buckeyeboy says:
    edgy
    ****************
    You know what’s good about this year? We’re not going to have to worry abut whether the Buckeyes get pasted in the National Championship game again (It’s too bad because I think that the rest of the college football world was looking forward to it). Now, I really don’t follow Boise but I would laugh my ass off if they made it to the game.
    P.S. – Sorry, John, but I had to say it. Peace out.

  46. buckeyeboy says: Oct 18, 2010 9:04 PM

    edgy
    u still sadden me, you continually act like a chump. I hope when you say peace out, that you really mean it. It would be a GLORIOUS (see i used all caps like u to look like a d-bag) day when you get off they computer, and live your life you 53 year old man…..go away lol
    and boom roasted by the way

  47. Mr. Cowpatty says: Oct 18, 2010 9:57 PM

    SOSDD, same old shit different day

  48. Deb says: Oct 18, 2010 10:28 PM

    @edge …
    buckeyeboy says:
    @edgy
    you are trying to bully everyone into your opinion, but you dont realize that its not middle school on here.
    Brownstown can have an opinion. Deb can have an opinion. Blitz can have an opinion. they should not be forced to listen to your self aggrandizing, ego-inflated, day late and dollar shortin, wal-marts most wanted, late to your first day of work, Abe Vigotaing, annoying, tiny-little-man speech.
    ***************************************
    Someone has your number … except he has no idea how far you’ll go when someone won’t bend to your views.
    Peace out. Right.

  49. smokehouse says: Oct 18, 2010 10:45 PM

    edgy, my God, don’t you something more important to do?

  50. edgy1957 says: Oct 19, 2010 1:20 AM

    buckeyeboy says:
    edgy
    *********************
    Wow, what a moron. I was wondering what you were talking about when you said I was 53 and then it occurred to me that you apparently thought that 1957 was a clue. Well, I hate to tell you this pissant but that’s when I lost my little brother and I would have changed it to 2010 if my sister had died of the stroke she had in June so what would you have guessed then RETARD? Peace out was to John, not you retard.

  51. edgy1957 says: Oct 19, 2010 1:24 AM

    You know Deb, I didn’t say anything to anyone in this conversation that didn’t say anything to me FIRST so don’t give me any shit about how I’m trying to oppress your opinion. Hell, the very first message here was a dig at me and I’ve never said a GD thing to the moron that said it. Maybe you should think about that before you open your mouth. I know why you’re trying to shit on me and you do as well.

  52. edgy1957 says: Oct 19, 2010 1:29 AM

    Finally, Deb, let’s get that last dig out in the open. YOU attacked the girl from Georgia BEFORE YOU KNEW ANY FACTS and what I did was give you a taste of your own medicine and that’s why you’re so pissy with me. Think about that the next time that you open your mouth because you obviously don’t understand why those other guys have talked about how they felt that you were jealous that Bend didn’t do it to you.

  53. edgy1957 says: Oct 19, 2010 1:31 AM

    # smokehouse says:
    edgy, my God, don’t you something more important to do?
    *************************
    Yes, in between all this bullshit, I’m helping my sister, who had a stroke in June. Is that good enough for you or do you think I should have something more important to do?

  54. edgy1957 says: Oct 19, 2010 1:42 AM

    FYI, for all you hypocrites that complain about how I’m attacking them:
    1. The very first message is from someone that I’ve NEVER conversed with before and it was a jab at me.
    2. With the exception of two messages to Ben about Oklahoma and Oregon, I have NOT sent out a single message that wasn’t a response to anyone else’s messages. That’s Deb, crazyguy, Brown Clown, buckeyegirl, etc.
    I understand that it won’t make a difference but think about that the next time you talk about I have tried to suppress your opinion when I haven’t even said a damn word to you and you’re the one who started the conversation. It seems that YOU are the one who are trying to suppress my opinion.

  55. blitz4848 says: Oct 19, 2010 10:57 AM

    I will take on all comers, one at a time or 4 at a time make it easy on yourself! I never attack, everyone else attacks me and I only respond to defend myself. You only THINK I try to run over your opinion because you are INSECURE!
    You do not have a clue, you are a retarded moron.
    My computer analysis and computations far surpass your minds capacity to comprehend. My statistics generated to the 41st power show a super natural overwhelming trend that I will reveal on Thursday. If you are nice to me, I will offer a sneak preview Wed night to a SELECT few.
    WHO AM I?

  56. John Taylor says: Oct 19, 2010 11:04 AM

    @ blitz: Most ESPN analysts?
    Did I get it right?

  57. Ben Kercheval says: Oct 19, 2010 11:23 AM

    BLITZ! We’ve missed you

  58. blitz4848 says: Oct 19, 2010 12:19 PM

    Ben….Went down to the Keys(Fla) for 17 days….it was tough but I survived.
    JT—You are so smart…on the cutting EDGE

  59. BrownsTown says: Oct 19, 2010 2:23 PM

    edgy,
    Holy cow, man! OK, enough. Here is an olive branch:
    ——-
    Can you dial it down a bit now?
    John Taylor,
    That was good until I realized that Jesse Palmer (a Gator alum) is one of the rising stars of ESPN’s college coverage. Something tells me ole Jesse (a Gator alum) isn’t using much in the way of quantitative analysis, unless it’s in perfecting the perfect number of ounces of hair gel.
    blitz,
    I’m envious. Welcome back, and please restart your picks of the week…. so I can pick the opposite. Just kidding, don’t go edgy on me.

  60. edgy1957 says: Oct 19, 2010 2:32 PM

    BTW, blitz, as my final message in this thread, I’d like to take the opportunity to note that in all the time that you were “gone”, I didn’t take note of your presence nor did I take any shots at you, so it seems that YOU are more obsessed about me than I am about you. Think about that the next time that you decide to poke the bear because I’ve got more important things to do than to worry about goofballs like you.
    One last thing to the rest of you obsessives: you do realize that when I post my Top 10 that you could ignore it and not obsess on it, right? Of course, you do play in John’s hands by doing it because it does mean more hits for the site (Sorry, John, I didn’t mean to give that away). :)
    Finally, why don’t you look at the computers’ Top 10 and compare it to what I put out there. You’ll find that 9 of the 10 that my program has picked are the same with the exception of their rankings but they’re not that far off (Only Stanford and Utah are different and they have have Stanford at 10, I have them at 13 while I have Utah at 9 and they have them at 11). FYI, what the computer program generates is NOT my own personal opinion because I would most certainly not have Oklahoma State in my Top 10 because of their defense and I can say that about a few others. FYI, you might note that I’ve never once pissed and moaned at any of you for your HUMAN picks, even though I know that some of you would consider an 0-12 Ohio State team better than a 12-0 Boise State team.

  61. Deb says: Oct 19, 2010 4:46 PM

    edgy1957 …
    The last time you posted that fiction about me attacking some innocent victim and you–the great war hero and protector of women everywhere–giving me a taste of my own medicine, I posted the links proving you concocted that story to justify your sick behavior. Apparently you’ve spent so long believing your own lie that evidence to the contrary is irrelevant. You’re really a very sad man.

  62. Deb says: Oct 19, 2010 4:55 PM

    Heeey, Blitz …
    17 days in the Keys … I am sooo jealous … need some ocean time … a little Jimmy Buffett … Hemingway … sand in my well-pedicured toes … ahhhh :)

  63. buckeyeboy says: Oct 19, 2010 5:41 PM

    finally! Edgy is done here, oh we are all sad now by ur story, but it’s a football blog where we discuss college football. It’s not a place for you to spout your “knowledge”.
    ur a laughable man, thank you for your time lol

  64. rlsmit says: Oct 20, 2010 11:31 AM

    # Deb says: October 17, 2010 11:40 PM ET
    If Auburn is your #1, you’re out of your mind. I just pulled up their schedule and came over here to ask why the heck a school that hasn’t played anyone is #4? Good grief.
    *******************************************
    Here’s why Auburn is number four. They are 4-0 in conference play beating Miss State, South Carolina (remember them don’t ya) Arkansas, and Kentucky. Just because these teams are not in the top 25 doesn’t meant they are horrible teams which you should know. Looking at Alabama’s Schedule who have they played? Penn-state, maybe last year’s team was good not this year’s team. Florida, they lost to Mississippi State, (who Auburn beat by the way). Ole miss, really? Arkansas both Auburn and Bama won. I think you’re holding on to the blowouts of San hose state and Duke, but if you are then you should be voted off the island. All that being said, Auburn has had a tougher schedule and they are undefeated, and if you’re hoping the LSU beats Auburn keep dreaming. The only team right now who can stop Auburn is Auburn beating themselves, which could happen but probably won’t. (I’m not an Auburn fan by the way, but I see why they would be number 1 on some people’s list).

  65. Deb says: Oct 20, 2010 1:01 PM

    Oh yeah … they played South Carolina.
    Arkansas and South Carolina.
    That about covers it.
    I’ve been watching Auburn play since I was in diapers. They may beat LSU. They may even win the Iron Bowl. But in all the years I’ve been watching, the one thing they’ve never managed to do is win a National Championship, and I doubt they’re going to start now.
    You may not be an Auburn fan, darlin’, but you are definitely a fan of some school that does not like Alabama. Well, as we say to the Cowtown bunch when they start sqealing about some incidental achievement: Got 13? We do.
    A history achievement (aka putting money where mouth is). It’s a beautiful thing.
    ROLL TIDE!

  66. rlsmit says: Oct 20, 2010 1:28 PM

    Point is that there’s a reason why Auburn is ranked higher than your elephants. Just because you don’t like it dosen’t meant is not justified. I’m happy about you 13 though, all that means to me is that you can count.

  67. rlsmit says: Oct 20, 2010 1:30 PM

    Point is that there’s a reason why Auburn is ranked higher than your elephants. Just because you don’t like it dosen’t meant is not justified. I’m happy about you 13 though, all that means to me is that you can count.

  68. rlsmit says: Oct 20, 2010 1:43 PM

    yeah it posted twice oh well 2% rule failed me

  69. Deb says: Oct 20, 2010 4:09 PM

    @rlsmit …
    Point is that there’s a reason why you came onto a thread riddled with major drama to single out my tiny little comment about Auburn. Like I said, someone has a big problem with Alabama.
    Yeah, I can count to 13. And your panties are in a twist because you can, too. :)

  70. rlsmit says: Oct 20, 2010 5:49 PM

    Deb says:
    October 17, 2010 11:40 PM ET
    If Auburn is your #1, you’re out of your mind. I just pulled up their schedule and came over here to ask why the heck a school that hasn’t played anyone is #4? Good grief.
    That’s why i came into the thread to answer your question, but roger panites in a bunch or not, there’s your answer, at least from my prospective. And to be honest Bama can have 20 titles under thier belt still doens’t help them out this year, and i’m done.

  71. WingT says: Oct 20, 2010 8:42 PM

    @Deb
    As you pointed out, the Barners ( Auburn) will probably find a way to self destruct before the year is out – they always do.
    @Edgy
    The real problem with Strength of Schedule calculations is that it is only good for one week – it changes each week. I have to give you credit for all the work you did on your assessment – very detailed and logical. You obviously are a die hard fan of college football like alot of us here on this thread.
    @Blitz
    17 days in the Keys? That is just not fair. As to your Gators, wow, I have to ask you why do you think Urban is staying with Brantley at QB? I just don’t get it. He’s not an option QB yet they keep trying to run the option. Is Urban just stubborn?

  72. Deb says: Oct 20, 2010 10:56 PM

    Hey, WingT …
    Gee, think I upset rlsmit :) I’m always suspicious of people who keep their allegiances under wraps. Apparently no one told him Alabama’s season isn’t finished yet ;)
    Edge knows his football all right. But I learned in a cruel way that he’s missing a few character chips.
    So that’s what’s wrong with the Gators! I haven’t followed closely enough to know, but I’ve been wondering. Thought Brantley was supposed to be a great pocket passer.

  73. WingT says: Oct 21, 2010 3:59 PM

    Hey Deb,
    I hope Auburn is undefeated when they visit Tuscaloosa. I want to see what Saban’s defense can do to stop Cam Newton. As much as it hurts to say, I have to give Auburn credit – they are playing very well and look strong.
    As to Edgy…well, he seems to march to a different drum, lol. One of my favorite things to do on this site is to see who Edgy has pissed off and what their response is, lol. He’s passionate about his footbal and I can respect that!
    So, how do you think we will hold up in Knoxville this weekend? UT is no push over. They are big, physical, rested, well coached and motivated.

  74. Deb says: Oct 22, 2010 1:13 PM

    @WingT …
    They probably will be undefeated when we reach the Iron Bowl. I just hate Auburn. Grrrrr. If we can be their spoiler, all the better.
    My issue w/edge is a personal attack that wasn’t about football and went way over the line. Have encountered many people who enjoy anonymity because it lets them piss on the world without consequences. Don’t think he’s like that; he knows he went too far but won’t acknowledge it. Unfortunate situation, but it is what it is.
    My family hates Tennessee as much as Auburn. Despite our win over Ole Miss, I didn’t feel we played our best game. If we have a strong showing over Tennessee, I’ll feel much better about our chances to get back in the title hunt going forward. But the main goal now is just to knock Auburn and LSU out of the Championship game. They’re always well-motivated when playing Bama, but if we’re not even more motivated as defending champs, we don’t deserve it.

  75. WingT says: Oct 22, 2010 9:07 PM

    @Deb
    When I first started posting on this site I let my emotions get in my way at times and probably purposefully provoked a few arguments here and there. I certainly am not proud of that and I have been working on it, lol. You’re right about how people hide behind an anonymous name and blast away. I doubt that will ever change.
    Bama has really been through the ringer in terms of physical play. It started with the Arkansas game, then Florida then South Carolina and finally last week Ole Miss. Every one of those games were extremely hard hitting games – Bama needs a rest but they have one more slobber knocker to play this weekend – Tennessee. A well rested, highly motivated team that will be out for blood. This will be the 5th game in a row where Bama gets pounded.
    Last week our defense really made improvement but it seemed our offense couldn’t get it going.
    Maybe we put it all together this week in TN – we will see. I’ll be happy with an ugly win, lol
    Roll Tide

  76. Deb says: Oct 23, 2010 4:40 PM

    WingT, I’m with you–a win is a win!! Doesn’t matter how ugly! Hope we can get a little rest then!
    Roll Tide!

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