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Boise State to open with Georgia in ’11, Ole Miss in ’14

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The rumors that have gained intensity over the past 24 hours have been confirmed — Boise State and Georgia will open next season in Atlanta.

And, as an added bonus, the Broncos will get another SEC school in an opener a couple of years down the road.

During a conference call held earlier Friday evening, Chick-fil-A officials confirmed that Georgia and Boise State will play in the Georgia Dome to open the 2011 season on Saturday, Sept. 3.  Additionally, it was announced that Boise State and Ole Miss will open the 2014 season in the same game.  The latter game will be played on ESPN the night of Thursday, Aug. 28.

“This is the type game that excites me, it will excite our players and I know it will excite our fans,” said Georgia coach Mark Richt. “We know it will put Georgia on a national stage in the season opener.  It will make for a great off-season of preparation and anticipation to play a great team at a great facility in our home state.”

“We are excited to participate in the 2011 Chick-fil-A Kickoff Game in Atlanta against Boise State,” said UGA Director of Athletics Greg McGarity. “We are very appreciative of the efforts made by ESPN and the Chick-fil-A Bowl to create this opportunity, and we look forward to competing against one of the nation¹s elite teams. We know our fans will certainly enjoy this experience in the Georgia Dome to start the 2011 season.”

“It was a long time coming, but we wanted to make sure we got our 2011 match-up right. Today, we got it right,” said Gary Stokan, Chick-fil-A Bowl president and CEO. “With this game, we have two nationally significant programs, two teams we expect to be highly ranked and a very interesting game. It’s a win all the way around.”

Boise State was originally scheduled to open the 2011 season against Ole Miss; BYU will replace Boise State on Ole Miss’ 2011 schedule.  Georgia was scheduled to play Louisville in a home-and-home series in 2011 and 2012.  That series has been canceled, and UGA’s $600,000 buyout will be paid by Chick-fil-A/ESPN.

North Carolina will assume the Georgia series with Louisville, as facilitated by ESPN.

For the 2011 game, Georgia and Boise State will receive $1.7 and $1.4 million respectively; for the 2014 game, Boise State will receive $1.1 million, while Ole Miss will get $2 million.

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54 Responses to “Boise State to open with Georgia in ’11, Ole Miss in ’14”
  1. bender4700 says: Nov 19, 2010 7:23 PM

    So you mean Boise won’t get $1.8 million directly from Georgia nor Ole’ Miss?

    Weird. It’s almost like they woke up and realized their place.

    Glad to see the can play the crappiest teams in the SEC as their “marqee” games.

    Either try and join the Pac-12 or Big XII, or start scheduling better teams.

    Play:

    Florida, Ohio State, Texas, Michigan, Alabama, Miami, Nebraska, USC, or Oklahoma.

    Then, I’d be impressed.

    *waits for Edgy to claim Georgia and Ole Miss are the best teams on the planet.

  2. mrcowpatty says: Nov 19, 2010 7:47 PM

    edgy will say, they are doing the best they can.

    I would like to see BSU and TCU join the Big XII.
    But, Texas would block it.

  3. edgy says: Nov 19, 2010 7:48 PM

    bender4700 says: Nov 19, 2010 7:23 PM

    So you mean Boise won’t get $1.8 million directly from Georgia nor Ole’ Miss?

    ****************

    Another person who continues to repeat a LIE. Boise State has NEVER asked for $1.8 million for any game. The ONLY ones who have ever reported that are fans who don’t know anything. NO credible university source has ever articulated that Boise wanted in that much to play a game. They wanted $1 million to play one game against Nebraska but were willing to settling for $900k. They got $1.2 million from Virginia Tech and Michigan State will get $1.1 million and $1.4 million for playing Ole Miss and Georgia.

    Oh and NOW, you want to start separating teams. At first it’s all this PLAY THE SEC, PLAY THE BIG TEN, PLAY A BIG SCHEDULE and now that they’ve proven that they will, you start pissing and moaning about WHO they’re playing in the league. As I’ve said before, it doesn’t matter who Boise plays because you and the other Big Bigots are going to piss all over them if Boise plays them. I guarantee you that if Boise played Alabama and beat them by 14 points and if Alabama and Boise were up for a spot in the national championship that boobs like you will find an excuse for why Alabama deserves to be there instead of Boise.

    P.S. – Boise DID play Oklahoma. They TRIED to schedule Nebraska. The only school on that list that you can say anything about is Alabama BUT that’s only because they haven’t called them and not that Alabama offered and they refused (Another lie that people like you keep trying to perpetuate). BTW —- GO TROJANS. Does that give you an idea of how I feel about them playing Boise? I’d welcome it, especially since the Pac-10 mans up and plays them every year. Hell, they even GO to Boise.

  4. boisestatewhodat says: Nov 19, 2010 7:51 PM

    Hey bender…we opened with VT and Oregon State this year…spanked em both. Last year we spanked oregon and the year before spanked oregon at oregon. You are a goon who doesn’t know your facts. Aint a team in the nation BSU coudn’t defeat!

  5. bender4700 says: Nov 19, 2010 8:58 PM

    Spanked?!?!

    you were down with 2 minutes against Vtech.

    Smart. Really smart.

  6. bender4700 says: Nov 19, 2010 8:59 PM

    Edgy,

    You keep claiming all these reports that REPORTERS reported are lies. Yet you are the annon poster on Collegefootballtalk.com making claims you never back up. Good call.

  7. bender4700 says: Nov 19, 2010 9:01 PM

    “You are a goon who doesn’t know your facts”

    You are officially the stupidest Boise fan in the country.

    Beating Vtech, after being DOWN late, then beating Oregon State (talk about big boy).

    Edgy, I’ve said consistently that Boise needs to play tougher opponents. Playing teams in the AQ conferences that are down is hardly impressive.

  8. whitetrashking says: Nov 19, 2010 9:06 PM

    WHOA!!!!!! WAIT ONE DAMN MINUTE!!! 1st off Georgia and Ole Miss aint the crappiest just not the best teams , the crappiest would be Vanderbilt and Miss state, and Kentucky……. 2nd The crappy teams would still beat Boise state………3rd This will fix the BCS because Boise will not be undefeated in 11 or 14 so there wont be a question where they should be or shouldnt be ranked…….and D when they get beat and they WILL GET BEAT, There will be some shmuck saying how it was set up for them to loose and how they were on the road and blah blah blah….Bottom line is until they play some meaningful games against teams that an all american highschool team couldnt beat then they will be relavent! Thank you and good bye!

  9. frank booth says: Nov 19, 2010 9:06 PM

    boisestatewhodat says:
    Nov 19, 2010 7:51 PM
    Hey bender…we opened with VT and Oregon State this year…spanked em both. Last year we spanked oregon and the year before spanked oregon at oregon. You are a goon who doesn’t know your facts. Aint a team in the nation BSU coudn’t defeat!
    ===================================
    So this year you beat a team that lost to James Madison and a team that is 4-5, (BTW, the win over Va Tech doesn’t constitute a spanking).

    You played one good team in ’09 and beat them, and you beat one good team in ’08.

    And now you are playing Georgia to open next year. A team that is probably better than it’s record suggests, maybe even a top 30 team.

    So you beat 1 or 2 good teams per year, a bunch of patsies, and that means that you can beat anyone?

    What it proves is that BSU can beat 1 or 2 good teams a year, and then beat up on a bunch of cupcakes. Nothing more.

  10. edgy says: Nov 19, 2010 9:52 PM

    bender4700 says:

    Edgy,

    *********************

    Please, show me, ONE CREDIBLE source that says that Boise State was trying to get $1.8 million for a single game from ANYONE. I guarantee you that you can’t do it because it NEVER HAPPENED. Show me a credible source that says that Alabama called Boise and Boise refused their offer. You can’t because it never happened and to try to say so is to repeat a lie.

    Boise approached Nebraska first to fill a hole that it had in is 2011 schedule and Nebraska told them to kiss their ass. Then Congress had several ADs from BCS conferences come before them and explain why they weren’t doing more for the non-AQs and Nebraska’s officials were among the ones who had to tap-dance in front of Congress and — gasp — wouldn’t you know that after that meeting that an offer from Nebraska mysteriously made its way to Boise.

  11. edgy says: Nov 19, 2010 9:56 PM

    bender4700 says:

    Edgy, I’ve said consistently that Boise needs to play

    *********

    That’s it, try to make someone else’s conversation about me. BUT, let’s play your game. The fact is that Oregon State is in the Pac-10 and if you think that they’re down then you’ve just shown your ignorance. The only reason why they don’t have ONE MORE team that’s in the BCS mix is because they’re on probation. I think it’s funny that when these teams are 8-0, they’re worthy but let them lose 2 games and they’re suddenly not. As I said before, you hypocrites won’t be giving any non-AQ the respect they’re due, even if they were to make it to the NCG and defeat the “better” team by 30 points.

  12. boisestatewhodat says: Nov 19, 2010 11:31 PM

    What does James Madison matter now that VT has won 7 or 8 in a row and is 14th in the nation…you goons will say anything to keep the broncos down…fact is, the voters obviously don’t agree with your unfounded banter. Name me a team BSU wouldn’t hole their own against?

  13. boisestatewhodat says: Nov 19, 2010 11:35 PM

    The ‘strength of schedule’ argument only gets you so far. Although I agree to some point…LSU playing MacNeese State and Louisiana Monroe as non-conference games negates that argument significantly. Boise State is a team no major team in any major conference wants to play…especially on the BLUE!

  14. boisestatewhodat says: Nov 20, 2010 12:58 AM

    51-zippo…

  15. frank booth says: Nov 20, 2010 1:06 AM

    boisestatewhodat says:
    Nov 19, 2010 11:31 PM
    What does James Madison matter now that VT has won 7 or 8 in a row and is 14th in the nation…you goons will say anything to keep the broncos down…fact is, the voters obviously don’t agree with your unfounded banter. Name me a team BSU wouldn’t hole their own against?

    Nov 19, 2010 11:35 PM
    The ‘strength of schedule’ argument only gets you so far. Although I agree to some point…LSU playing MacNeese State and Louisiana Monroe as non-conference games negates that argument significantly. Boise State is a team no major team in any major conference wants to play…especially on the BLUE!
    ===================================
    Bronco fans will do anything to talk Boise State up. The win over Virginia Tech (which is Boise State’s only impessive win) is tempered by the fact that the ACC is horrible this year-

    I don’t know who Boise State can or can’t hold their own against- No one does. They don’t play a tough schedule week in and week out. They may be one of the best teams in the country, or they may just be an OK team. But no one really knows until they start playing tougher competition.

    And I don’t know if Boise State really wants to play tougher competition. So far, we know of only one team (Nebraska) that has declined to play them. And their formula of playing weak teams in a weak conference has worked quite well so far- so I don’t know if they want to mess with that. It’s gotten them up to 4th in the BCS.

    McNeese State and Louisiana Monroe, in regards to LSU’s schedule? Guess what? In the Sagarin ratings, Louisiana Monroe and McNeese State are rated above San Jose State and New Mexico State, which are 2 teams that Boise State has played.

    LSU has played North Carolina, West Virginia, Mississippi State, Florida, Auburn, and Alabama, losing to #2 Auburn by a touchdown.

    LSU’s schedule absolutely blows Boise State’s out of the water. How many losses would Boise State have with that schedule? Nobody knows. Until Boise State plays a schedule half that tough, we won’t really know how they stack up.

  16. jlswisc says: Nov 20, 2010 4:52 AM

    Anyone hating on Boise really needs to reconsider.
    In the last few years this team has proved that they can not only play with the big boys, but that they win against them.

    Oregon, currently number 1 in the country, won the Pac10 last year. Boise Beat them. Thats 1 conference champ win for Boise.

    —-Think about this, Oregon won their conference last year, Boise beat them, Boise won its bowl game, Oregon lost, Both are undefeated this year (the following year!) and Boise isnt ranked ahead of them???

    OU as Big12 champ lost to Boise. Thats a second.

    VT will win the ACC this year, Boise beat them. Thats 3 conference champ wins for boise.

    Boise also beat the other good non AQ in TCU.

    Boise has taken down the conference champions in 3 BCS conferences.

    We know they would take down any Big East time.

    Now if an ACC team went 12-0, people might be weary bc the ACC is bad, but no one would bitch like they do with Boise, and it makes no sense.

    There are plenty of bad teams in all the power conferences (all of them in big east, alot in the acc) and then the likes of KY, Vandy, IN, MN, Purdue, Kansas, Iowa State, Washington State, Arizona state, ect.

    Yes the SEC has some great teams and the big10 has what look to be 3 real good ones. And yes the big10, 12, and SEC do play better teams on a weekly basis. BUT

    When boise does get to play the cream of crop from those conferences, they win. (also its not like all these other teams out of conference schedule is hard. Look at Alabama: san jose state, duke, georgia state)

    Now they schedule Georgia and people are bitching? because for some reason georgia is now not a good football program? Please.

    I cant buy into Boise not wanting to play teams, it seems there out of conference games are pretty good. Will Boise be a good team forever or even in a few years? Who knows, but they area reallly good right now.

  17. boisestatewhodat says: Nov 20, 2010 8:45 AM

    Frank, both VT and oregon state are quality opponents as is Fresno State and Nevada next Friday night will be too…my guess is that if this Boise State team played the same schedule LSU just played…they’d be undefeated just as they are now. What people don’t understand is that Boise State is basically USC in disguise in terms of the players. BSU has become so attractive and their recruiting shows it…hate all you want but everytime BSU is given a chance to play the ‘big boys’ they do and they win!

  18. laughingatnonaq says: Nov 20, 2010 8:49 AM

    @jlswisc

    We need to Reconsider?

    How about not, the 2007 win vs OU was a totaly different team than the team this year. Brand new Coaches, hell everything. Last years team, again not this years team.

    Boise has only proved that given enough time and “gadgetry,” they can win close against good teams.

    We argue you couldn’t compete against those same teams everyweek SIMILAR to the top notch teams in the SEC. (Aurburn, LSU, Alabama)

    Bottom Line with the last 4 champions being from the SEC, that’s your start point. Some would argue that Georgia is a bottom SEC team simply because they are 5-6, however over the last 6 games they’ve gone 4-2 and avereaged 40+ points a game.

    Now someone will say, those win came against Vandy, Tennessee, Kentucky, Idaho State

    Well if you throwing team names around i can just as easily throw Toledo, San Jose, New Mexico, and La Tech.

    Bottom line, your “chase” for the championship this year hangs off the coat tails from past teams. What have you done this year? Aside from VT (james madison please stand up) and the 4-5 Oregon state.

  19. superfbfan says: Nov 20, 2010 9:49 AM

    I hope Boise St. wins the national title…could be the beginning of the end of the BCS….Boise St. vs. TCU would be ideal…

    Every year, at this time, college football becomes a national joke…

  20. steelers6pack says: Nov 20, 2010 11:17 AM

    So Boise travels to Atlanta to play Georgia? Why don’t Georgia play them in Boise or closer to Boise? Once again the SEC AFRAID to travel!

  21. superfbfan says: Nov 20, 2010 11:54 AM

    The past 3 years Georgia has gone on the road and played Arizona st., Oklahoma St. and Colorado…UGA played Boise St. in 2005….the SEC isn’t afraid of anyone…SEC schedules are no diff then Big 12, Pac 10, or Big 10…go look at the schedules

  22. frank booth says: Nov 20, 2010 12:23 PM

    jlswisc says:
    Nov 20, 2010 4:52 AM

    Anyone hating on Boise really needs to reconsider.
    In the last few years this team has proved that they can not only play with the big boys, but that they win against them.

    Oregon, currently number 1 in the country, won the Pac10 last year. Boise Beat them. Thats 1 conference champ win for Boise.

    —-Think about this, Oregon won their conference last year, Boise beat them, Boise won its bowl game, Oregon lost, Both are undefeated this year (the following year!) and Boise isnt ranked ahead of them???

    OU as Big12 champ lost to Boise. Thats a second.

    VT will win the ACC this year, Boise beat them. Thats 3 conference champ wins for boise.

    Boise also beat the other good non AQ in TCU.

    Boise has taken down the conference champions in 3 BCS conferences.

    We know they would take down any Big East time.

    Now if an ACC team went 12-0, people might be weary bc the ACC is bad, but no one would bitch like they do with Boise, and it makes no sense.

    There are plenty of bad teams in all the power conferences (all of them in big east, alot in the acc) and then the likes of KY, Vandy, IN, MN, Purdue, Kansas, Iowa State, Washington State, Arizona state, ect.

    Yes the SEC has some great teams and the big10 has what look to be 3 real good ones. And yes the big10, 12, and SEC do play better teams on a weekly basis. BUT

    When boise does get to play the cream of crop from those conferences, they win. (also its not like all these other teams out of conference schedule is hard. Look at Alabama: san jose state, duke, georgia state)

    Now they schedule Georgia and people are bitching? because for some reason georgia is now not a good football program? Please.

    I cant buy into Boise not wanting to play teams, it seems there out of conference games are pretty good. Will Boise be a good team forever or even in a few years? Who knows, but they area reallly good right now.

    ===================================
    Boise beat Oregon last year. So did Stanford. Does that mean that that that is one conference champion for Stanford as well?

    James Madison beat Virginia Tech this year. That’s one conference champion for James Madison. and they won by 5. So is James Madison better than Boise State?

    Your logic is flawed. Here is the best one, however:

    When boise does get to play the cream of crop from those conferences, they win. (also its not like all these other teams out of conference schedule is hard. Look at Alabama: san jose state, duke, georgia state)

    Pretty convenient. You left out Penn State (who is not very good this year) Who cares about Alabama’s non-conference schedule, when you see who they play in conference: Arkansas, Florida, South Carolina, LSU, Miss State, and Auburn. All teams that have been ranked at one time or another this season. Does Boise play a schedule anything close to that? No. So you are telling me that Alabama needs to throw a ranked team or two into their non-conference schedule as well, so that their schedule even becomes more difficult than Boise State’s.

    Nobody cares that Boise State occasionally get’s an annual win against a ranked squad. Let’s see them do a grind over a season. Let’s see them prepare for difficult teams on a regular basis. Let’s see them play games where they don’t have to pull their starters at the half. Once they do that, people will start giving them more regard. I don’t necessarily think that Boise is bad- I just don’t know because of their schedule.

  23. mrcowpatty says: Nov 20, 2010 3:55 PM

    I believe that if Boise State would add about 20,000 more seats and some plush suites you might see a different attitude from the larger conferences. Plus the blue field must go. Until then BSU will never be considered a big time program. Remember boys and girls it’s all about the money.

  24. edgy says: Nov 20, 2010 6:50 PM

    You guys have proven time and time again that it wouldn’t matter what schedule that Boise and TCU played because you’ve absolutely got it in for non-AQs. You guys act as if the BCS trailer trash is even better than the non-AQs and it’s funny but the top of the Big East has been dominated for the past few years by teams that used to be non-AQ trailer trash but now that they’ve moved into a “BCS” conference, they’re deemed worthy of a BCS berth.

    Boise and TCU can’t win for losing. If they beat their opponents by 5 points, you guys say that THEY aren’t as good as people say and if they beat them by 30 then you say that their OPPONENTS suck. I would guarantee you that if they went independent and played the top teams in the BCS, you’d find some way to downgrade their opponents just to say that they’re not worthy of being included in the national championship picture.

  25. frank booth says: Nov 20, 2010 7:42 PM

    edgy says:
    Nov 20, 2010 6:50 PM

    You guys have proven time and time again that it wouldn’t matter what schedule that Boise and TCU played because you’ve absolutely got it in for non-AQs.
    ===================================
    Your statement above is silly. I don’t know who “you guys” are.

    I don’t know how it’s been “proven time and time again that it wouldn’t matter what schedule Boise and TCU played…” because Boise nor TCU have played a difficult schedule yet. I think there are a lot of people that would like to see these teams play a schedule even half as difficult as some SEC teams just to be able to see how they would come out. The fact is that it’s very difficult to rank Boise State and TCU.

    Take Utah, for example. Undefeated and ranked 6th on very weak schedule. They finally get competition, get destroyed by TCU and then lowly Notre Dame. Did they deserve to be in the BCS mix at the time, based upon their ridiculuously weak schedule? Absolutely not.

    Boise State and TCU now sit in similar spots. Highly ranked, with weak schedules. Boise State will not be exposed this year- they will crush Nevada next week. Nevada has no impressive opponents to speak of, yet some Boise State fans are trying to pass them off as a quality opponent.

    TCU has no impressive wins to speak of. Utah isn’t that good, Baylor is 7-4, and Oregon State has a losing record. TCU has proven nothing.

    If TCU and Boise State want to be respected, then they need to play tougher competition on a regular basis. Whether that means they need to move into a tougher conference or play a tougher non-conference schedule, either is fine by me.

    And it’s up to them to do it, not other teams to come running to Boise State and TCU.

    And really, until Boise State and TCU start prove themseleves with more consistently difficult schedules and prove it on the field, their fans should just shut their mouths and appreciate the gift of being highly ranked without having to show it on the field while so many others have to go out there and earn it on a weekly basis.

    And while it’s great that Boise will play Georgia next year (who may not even be a Top 25 team next year), who is the other tough team that they will play?

  26. mrcowpatty says: Nov 20, 2010 7:51 PM

    @edgy,

    Sorry to disagree with you but TCU can exist with the larger conferences, The reason has to do with where they play. More teams will play TCU than BSU because they will be offered more money.
    Lets be honest, would you rather play in Bosie at a small venue or play in front of 60,000 at Cowboy stadium. The DFW area has more to offer to people traveling than the city of Boise. Sure it’s not fair but that’s the way it is. By the way just how cold was it in Boise last night?

  27. edgy says: Nov 20, 2010 10:04 PM

    frank booth says:

    I don’t know who “you guys” are.

    **

    You, for starters.

    Of course, you wouldn’t know because you’re oblivious of the fact that you’ve written line after line putting down every opponent, BCS or not, of Boise State or do you deny that?

    Again, they CAN’T come up to your standards and YOU KNOW IT. It is impossible for them to schedule more than 3 out of conference games and even if they didn’t, you’ve proven that you’ll just keep crapping on those teams, even if they were ranked number one at the time that they played Boise or TCU. Stop pretending as if you would even give them a chance, even if they upped their schedule. I think it’s hypocritical of every one of you guys to count victories against the ACC and Big East when it’s NOT the WAC or MWC but let them win and hoo hoo, they’re trailer trash. You know what’s funny is that the Pac-10 doesn’t have the same snobby attitude about them but you boys out East sure think that your sh*t doesn’t stink.

  28. edgy says: Nov 20, 2010 10:10 PM

    mrcowpatty says:

    @edgy,

    Sorry to disagree with you but TCU can exist with

    ******************

    WRONG but thanks for playing out game. Boise gets more than TCU, genius. I didn’t say that TCU couldn’t exist in bigger conferences. Hell, you goofball, they used to be part of the SWC, which was far better than the ACC and Big East. What I said had NOTHING to do with your misdirection but the fact that nothing they will ever do will ever satisfy you guys.

    BTW, if you’re only bringing 60,000 to Cowboys Stadium then don’t bother because Jerry won’t open it up unless you bring in more than 73,000. BTW, genius, Boise’s playing a 2 for 1 with Michigan State and the Spartans play in front of a lot more than 60,000 so I guess they’re going to disprove your point — again.

    I wouldn’t know. I’m NOT in Boise, I’m NOT from Boise and I’m NOT a fan of Boise. Here’s a hint for you, genius – GO USC.

  29. frank booth says: Nov 20, 2010 10:54 PM

    edgy says:
    Nov 20, 2010 10:04 PM
    frank booth says:

    I don’t know who “you guys” are.

    **

    You, for starters.

    Of course, you wouldn’t know because you’re oblivious of the fact that you’ve written line after line putting down every opponent, BCS or not, of Boise State or do you deny that?

    Again, they CAN’T come up to your standards and YOU KNOW IT. It is impossible for them to schedule more than 3 out of conference games and even if they didn’t, you’ve proven that you’ll just keep crapping on those teams, even if they were ranked number one at the time that they played Boise or TCU. Stop pretending as if you would even give them a chance, even if they upped their schedule. I think it’s hypocritical of every one of you guys to count victories against the ACC and Big East when it’s NOT the WAC or MWC but let them win and hoo hoo, they’re trailer trash. You know what’s funny is that the Pac-10 doesn’t have the same snobby attitude about them but you boys out East sure think that your sh*t doesn’t stink.
    ===================================
    Of course I don’t deny it- I embrace it.

    Unlike you, I deal in reality rather than assumption.

    The fact is that Boise State plays a weak schedule in a weak conference.

    Here’s another fact- The Virginia Tech team that they beat comes from an ACC conference that you yourself have said is weak.

    Here’s another fact- Although Oregon State is putting a hurt on USC, as of right now, they are 4-5.

    Here’s another fact- the Georgia team that they are going to play next year is no great shakes.

    Until they start playing better competition, no matter how it’s done, they will be questioned, and they deserve it.

    Look at Stanford. 1 loss, to Oregon. They play a schedule that’s ranked 8th by Jeff Sagarin. He has Boise State’s ranked 82. Yet, Stanford is ranked behind Boise State.

    And to you that is fair.

    How about LSU? 1 loss, to #2 Auburn. While they play a substantially harder schedule than Boise State, they sit behind them. Unlike Boise, they’ve proven it on the field against tougher competition. But apparently, competition doesn’t matter to you. A win is a win, regardless of whom the opponent is.

  30. jlswisc says: Nov 21, 2010 1:49 AM

    Boise beat Oregon last year people. Oregon won the Pac 10 last year.

    Boise beats who they play. The counter argument would have some credit if boise ever lose one of these big games, but they havent.

    And when they beat whoever they play this year (sans uw), you will continue to make excuses

  31. jlswisc says: Nov 21, 2010 1:49 AM

    Boise beat Oregon last year people. Oregon won the Pac 10 last year.

    Boise beats who they play. The counter argument would have some credit if boise ever lose one of these big games, but they havent.

    And when they beat whoever they play this year (sans uw), you will continue to make excuses

  32. frank booth says: Nov 21, 2010 2:43 AM

    Congrats to Boise State on their defeat of Oregon last year. And their big bowl win over mighty TCU. Last year.

  33. frank booth says: Nov 21, 2010 2:57 AM

    @jlwisc-

    It’s too bad Wisconsin doesn’t play a schedule like Boise State- chances are they would be undefeated and sitting at least 3rd in the BCS.

  34. edgy says: Nov 21, 2010 11:11 AM

    Frank, it wouldn’t matter if Boise beat the #1 or #2 team in the nation in back to back weeks because you and the others have proven that you will sh*t all over those teams for just losing to Boise. The fact is that up until Virginia Tech played them, you guys were predicting a beat down and within minutes of them losing, you were crapping all over Tech and that’s even before they played JMU so don’t bring that crap up, either because if they had beaten JMU, you’d have found another excuse to degrade them. You guys predicted that Oregon State was going to take down TCU big time and THEN you said that they would do so to Boise State and — gasp – YOU WERE WRONG AGAIN. Sure, Oregon State is 5-5 but two losses were to teams that are in the Top 5 but why let the truth get in the way of your rant. They’re up and down but then again, so are several teams in the SEC and Big 10 and Big 12 and yet, you seem to count them as quality opponents for their top teams.

    You can say what you want but there is NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING that Boise or TCU can do that will keep you from being the Big Bigot that you are. You’re consistent in your inconsistency of allowing BCS teams to count their trailer trash as quality but let a non-AQ play that same team and they’re suddenly unworthy of being counted as quality.

    Ok, here’s another INCONSISTENCY. You whine about Stanford vs Boise State BUT then YOU say that Boise is ranked ahead of Stanford. Well, that all depends on how you look at it, frank because NO, they’re not. If you’re going to use Jeff’s standards of scheduling then you need to use Jeff’s rankings because — wait for it — Stanford is 4th for the BCS while Boise is 7th in the Sagarin ratings. Again, you are consistent in your inconsistency. BTW, Stanford is 8th but Boise is 73rd not 82nd. Oh and Auburn is 40th but gee, I don’t see you pissing on them for being ranked ahead of Stanford, despite the SUBSTANTIAL difference in schedule — hypocrite.

    FYI, Auburn is 30th in SOS, Stanford is 56th, TCU is 72nd, Boise is 76th and the number one team in the nation, Oregon, is 96th. Again, NOTHING that TCU or Boise State can do will ever garner them the respect that they deserve. The Pac-10 knows this because they had to put with the same sh*t and because of that, they schedule their western counterparts and even play in their home stadiums. You may not respect BYU, Boise and TCU but teams like USC, Oregon and Oregon State do.

  35. frank booth says: Nov 21, 2010 11:53 AM

    edgy-

    Wow, Edgy, your newes edition is filled with fallacies and incorrect assumptions. Good job trying to put words in my mouth, but it doesn’t fly with me.

    First, I would gladly give Kudos to Boise State if they beat a Top 20 and a Top 10 team two weeks in a row.

    Second, I never predicted losses to Oregon State and Virginia Tech.

    Third, I’ve already told you how Boise and TCU can get respected.

    Fourth, I’ve never justified the trailer trash that the big teams play, nor have I been inconsistent about it. All teams play trash. It just happens that Boise, TCU and Utah play more of it.

    In regads to Stanford and Auburn- No hypocrisy there- Just because I haven’t discussed it doesn’t make me a hypocrite- Auburn plays a very reasonable schedule- Boise State does not- Auburn is 2-0 against top ten teams and 4-0 against the Top 30. BSU is 0-0 and 2-0. Auburn has clearly earned their spot.

    Their weak games against Louisiana Monroe and McNeese State drag their SOS way down, but at the end of the day, they’ve outperformed Stanford, who doesn’t have a win againt a Top 10 team, but is 4-1 vs. the Top 30. If Stanford doesn’t play #1 Oregon, they are sitting right there with Auburn.

    BTW, where did you get those SOS numbers in the last paragraph?

  36. edgy says: Nov 21, 2010 2:11 PM

    Frank…

    Whatever. You continue to act as if you’re the paragon of fairness and you’d actually give these teams a fair shake if they met the impossible standards that you’ve set for them but we all know that it’s an out and out lie and you prove it every time that you talk down their opposition.

    BTW, take away Oregon and I guarantee you that Stanford would still be considerably above Auburn. It wouldn’t even be close. You might want to look at a REAL schedule instead of trying to make it up as you go along. Oregon, by itself, is a good boost BUT and this is what you guys don’t understand, THEIR opposition, was actually a drag and helped to neutralize the effect.

    SOS, which is TOTALLY different from what Sagarin puts out, is easily computed. I actually do it slightly different in that I remove the results of the games between that team and its opponents, which actually makes it better for winning teams but if you compute it the way that it’s done traditionally, you’ll get similar results. Even with their gaudy record, I have Oregon with a .488 % and an ADJUSTED % of .477. Adjusted takes into account the classification of the opponent (FCS vs FBS) and whether the game was at home or on the road. From the way that you and others talk, I’m guessing that you believe more in RAW W-L % that only counts the opponents but that’s about as stupid a method as there’s ever been. I’d suggest that you guys research how to compute SOS, learn how to program and then actually write a program so that you can show REAL SOS, instead of the bogus ones that you try to pawn off now.

  37. frank booth says: Nov 21, 2010 4:24 PM

    edgy says:
    Nov 21, 2010 2:11 PM
    Frank…

    Whatever. You continue to act as if you’re the paragon of fairness and you’d actually give these teams a fair shake if they met the impossible standards that you’ve set for them but we all know that it’s an out and out lie and you prove it every time that you talk down their opposition.

    ===================================
    A. What are the impossible standards that I have set? Show me. If you can’t, then your the biggest BS artist on this blog.

    B. Prove to me that I’m lying. I talk down their opposition because it deserves to be talked to- and that has nothing to do with proving that I’m a liar. So prove it, big mouth.

    C. I see. All of the other strength of schedule calculations are incorrect. Yours is the right one. Congrats on being smarter than everyone else.

    D. Your the one who makes things up as you go along.

    E. Show me how Stanford overall has played tougher teams than Auburn. Please. Do it. Your smart and you apparently have all of the answers.

  38. edgy says: Nov 22, 2010 12:32 AM

    Frank, maybe you should go back to school because you obviously can’t read. I didn’t say that Stanford played tougher teams so get off your high horse. I said “BTW, take away Oregon and I guarantee you that Stanford would still be considerably above Auburn.” This was in response to your stupid statement that if you took Oregon away from Stanford that their schedule ranking — PER SAGARIN and I will use your own words for this “If Stanford doesn’t play #1 Oregon, they are sitting right there with Auburn.” That is a total joke. If you removed Oregon from Stanford’s Sagarin ratings, it wouldn’t even drop them any where near Auburn (Again, take a course on computing so you will understand the math behind the computer ratings). If you take away Oregon then Stanford goes from 8th to 16th, which is still 24 spots higher than Auburn. Take away Auburn’s best opponent and they drop 11 spots to 51st. Take a look at the Sagarin ratings and tell me that you believe that Auburn has played a much tougher schedule than Stanford minus Oregon. Jeff is hamstrung by the BCS so that’s why he has Auburn at #1 but his non-BCS has them at #5.

    Look, you can play the retarded “their opponents are 14-22″ bull all day long but it only shows your ignorance. SOS is based on more than just the other team’s wins, it’s also what their opponents did.

  39. gamustangdude says: Nov 22, 2010 10:17 AM

    Hogwash:
    When the number 4 team in the country has an SOS of 51.
    Hogwash(2)
    When the number 3 team in the country has an SOS of 63

    Oregon SOS = 9
    Auburn SOS = 15
    Stanford SOS = 5
    LSU SOS = 21
    Everyone can stop lying to themselves now, Boise and TCU are a joke.

    http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/ranking/strength-of-schedule-by-team

    these guys have a above average idea of how to rank teams, though i wouldn’t compare them to Edgy’s (sarcasm at it’s best)

  40. frank booth says: Nov 22, 2010 2:16 PM

    gamustangdude-

    The Edge-O-Matic 9000 posting mechanism will soon return to tell you how you are wrong

  41. edgy says: Nov 23, 2010 12:43 AM

    Look, either go and calculate the SOS PER THE BCS formula OR STFU. Gay Mustang, are you serious? That has NOTHING to do with strength of schedule. SOS, as computed by the BCS, is computed this way, you moron:

    http://www.laxpower.com/update07/ex_sos.php

    If your remove Oregon from Stanford’s SOS, as computed by Sagarin, it doesn’t move them down as much as you and Frank Burns might think. What you and Frank are trying to pawn off as SOS, is simply an average of power ratings with Frank using an OFFICIAL BCS site while you conveniently choose a site that is no more official than what I do but does have the added advantage of having higher ratings than either Jeff or I. In other words, you love to cherry pick your sources while attacking those that you don’t like as being unofficial and not worthy of being considered by others. Basically, the same thing that you’ve always been, a HYPOCRITE.

  42. gamustangdude says: Nov 23, 2010 7:09 AM

    @edgy

    So in other words what you just said was “Hey Pot…Your Black”

    Well that’ll make you the Poster Boy for Hypocrisy

  43. edgy says: Nov 23, 2010 11:16 AM

    Gay Mustang, try as you might, you can’t equate me to you. You’re the poster boy and you know why? For those of you who want to see REAL hypocrisy, follow the Gay Mustang’s “SOS” link and then look at what teams that THEY have listed as #1 and #6 in their overall power ratings and not strength of schedule power ratings. He talks the big talk about this site because they have them listed very low in schedule but he doesn’t mention that even this site takes everything into account and list them higher than the Gay Mustang’s biases allow.

    FYI, 20 years, most of you guys would have had a stroke about how some of these “power” teams in the “power” conferences were ranked so high with such weak strength of schedules and it was one of the first components of the BCS that they put in (Later on, they tried to compensate with “quality” wins but that got taken out). If you think that Boise and TCU had crappy schedules, you should go back and look at the ones that some of the “power” teams had. FYI, when I did a W-L study by decades, I had to remove more than a few Division II wins from the “power” conferences W-L records from back in the 1970s because they trolled that deep rather than play more meaningful games in their own division.

    To get an idea of why REAL SOS can vary so much in reality vs your perceptions, consider this scenario: two teams with identical 4-0 marks and the first team has an opponent’s W-L record of 12-4 while the second team’s is 8-8. Right off the bat, that’s an edge to the first team. But suppose that the first team’s opponents’ opponents were a combined 16-48 while the second team’s were 48-16. It’s real easy to see how one team had a bunch of 3-1 opponents while the other had a bunch of 2-2 opponents. Under the SOS that you guys keep trotting out, the first team has an SOS of .750 while the second has one of .500 but under the REAL SOS formula, the SOS for both teams is .583. One played “quality” opponents, who built their record off of beating trailer trash while the other beat “semi-quality” opponents who beat “quality” opponents. Now, computer rankings go further because they link a lot of teams together in ways that you can’t in your mind so the depth of the calculations would boggle the minds of those of you who have a hard time with 1 + 1, let alone, the square root of 3.

    You guys think this is easy. Go to Jeff Sagarin’s site and try talking smack to him or go to the Gay Mustang’s “SOS” site and talk to them about their rankings like you do mine. See if either of them tolerate your crap.

  44. edgy says: Nov 23, 2010 11:19 AM

    BTW, Gay Mustang, the first two methods have only been around for about 20 years while the method of computing SOS like the BCS did, has been around forever.

  45. gamustangdude says: Nov 23, 2010 11:21 AM

    Your right but thanks for not palying the game IDIOT

    the comments were on SOS not Power Rankings. But snice you keep referring to Oranges when we are talking about apples, you look like the idiot, not me. So Based on SOS how’s the number 51 team in the country doing?

    jackass

  46. edgy says: Nov 24, 2010 11:53 AM

    Gay Mustang, you walked in the middle of a conversation about strength of schedule and tried to take it into a different direction. BTW, HYPOCRITE, you won’t admit that your SOS “Rankings” site lists Boise and TCU as the #1 and #6 teams. You want to rag on them for being ranked so high by me or others and yet, you chose a site that ranked them just as high. Seriously, that’s the meaning of hypocrisy.

    Oh and since you’re so retarded and can’t read, I’ll interpret it for you: that site lists Boise’s schedule RANK as #51 but they list Boise as their #1 TEAM. Funny but they put their calculators to work and looked at Boise’s body of work and despite the schedule ranking, named the their NUMBER ONE TEAM. How do you reconcile that fact, hypocrite? You choose to cherry pick that they rank their schedule, which is based on several factors besides the traditional SOS formula but don’t want anyone to know that despite that fact, that they consider them the best team in the country.

  47. gamustangdude says: Nov 24, 2010 2:03 PM

    1. Reason why you’re wrong.

    You stated: Gay Mustang, you walked in the middle of a conversation about strength of schedule and tried to take it into a different direction

    My original Comment:

    gamustangdude says:
    Nov 22, 2010 10:17 AM
    Hogwash:
    When the number 4 team in the country has an SOS of 51.
    Hogwash(2)
    When the number 3 team in the country has an SOS of 63

    IV’E NEVER CHANGED DIRECTION my original comment was soley on SOS, so how’s that taken it into a different direction, “WEDGY”?

    They don’t list thier SOS as #1 and #6 you’ve evan stated that yourself, WEDGY!!

    that site lists Boise’s schedule RANK as #51 <—You said that WEDGY

    Now what you can make fun of me on is me thinking the Schedule rank and SOS are the same thing, if they're not then go ahead and make your wise cranks.

    However, at the end of the day
    Bottom line
    BOISE'S SCHEDULE IS A JOKE. The number 4 team in the Country thier schedule is ranked number 51!!!! Schedule rank = SOS to me

    Now, Argue that WEDGY!!

  48. edgy says: Nov 24, 2010 7:47 PM

    gamustangdude says: Nov 24, 2010 2:03 PM

    1. Reason why you’re wrong.

    ******************

    You’re so wrong, that’s it’s laughable.

    First off, YOU – yes – YOU, walked into the conversation. You didn’t start the conversation, you walked into it and then tried to pawn off your bull sh*t numbers as SOS and by your own words, you said “SOS” and even on that site, they didn’t consider them SOS but SOS rankings that aren’t based on SOS but their versions of power rankings turned into a — wait for it – SOS POWER RANKINGS.

    You’re right, they don’t list Boise and TCU as their #1 and #6 teams in schedule rankings, they list them as #1 and #6 in their OVERALL RANKINGS (You knew what I meant but you tried to pass that off as I said that they had the #1 and #6 schedule). Again, you crap on them for their low schedule ratings with that site BUT you overlook the fact that the site rates them as their #1 and #6 teams; something that I said LONG AGO when I called you a hypocrite for trying to cherry pick your facts. BTW, I guess I have to quote what I wrote the other day so you can remember what I said THEN about this: “For those of you who want to see REAL hypocrisy, follow the Gay Mustang’s “SOS” link and then look at what teams that THEY have listed as #1 and #6 in their overall power ratings and not strength of schedule power ratings.”

    BTW, for a team whose schedule is such a joke, they’re rated pretty damn high by the computers. Seems that they don’t listen to biased morons like you.

  49. gamustangdude says: Nov 24, 2010 7:56 PM

    Edgy youre missing the point, SO WHAT if they have them ranked number 1 and number 6 in POWER RANKINGS, I never argued power rankings i argued SOS, the BCS has them ranked 4 and 3 the AP has them ranked 3 and 4. SO WHAT

    on SOS ALONE They are ranked 50 and 63,

    stop comparing apples and oranges, learn how to compare apples and apples there WEDGY!!

    the name of the list is titled

    College FB Team Strength of Schedule Power Rating

    KEY WORD being STRENGTH OF SCHEDULE.

    I’m not arguing Power Rankings IDIOT.
    LOOK at the difference between OVERALL power rating vs SOS power rating. I’m arguing the latter. Genius

  50. edgy says: Nov 25, 2010 12:45 PM

    Gay Mustang, you’ve been arguing the fact that the #3 and #4 teams are rated so low with such a low SOS and then you pointed out that these teams were ranking X and Y on a site that really didn’t calculate that as an SOS but an SOS ranking and yet, that very same site has them listed as their #1 and #6 teams. It’s hypocritical to whine about their rankings and their SOS and then try to find yet another site that has them ranked low BUT omit the fact that UNLIKE YOU, they actually put in the effort and their effort showed them as the #1 and #6 team in THEIR RANKINGS.

    BTW, in terms of schedule ranking, I don’t pull punches on either team and have them ranked #77 (Boise State) and #80 (TCU) but at the same time, I have Oregon as #116 and Wisconsin as #112. That’s because I take into account the following things: opponent’s classification and game site. That means that if a team plays a I-AA team at home and wins, they’ve achieved the lowest numbers for a I-A team that wins. The only thing lower would be a I-A team that loses AT HOME to a I-AA team (The lowest possible is a I-AA team that loses at home to a Div II or lower team). Boise is ahead of TCU because while TCU’s overall schedule is better, Boise never played a I-AA team while TCU did. They didn’t gain as many points for that game and that’s what’s hurt them lately and frankly, the differences in their schedule comes down to a few thousands of a percent. Oregon has been hurt by Portland State, New Mexico and Washington State while Wisconsin has been killed by two very bad I-A OOC games, UNLV and San Jose State and a very bad I-AA team, Austin Peay (Arizona State has helped either Oregon or Wisconsin).

    As for the worthiness of these teams, you might go back and look at the SOS of some of the teams that were declared NC by the polls. You’d be more than a little embarrassed with the numbers when you consider that the Big Bigots back then considered teams like Penn State unworthy and yet, their schedule was just a “good” as the guys who were declared the NC.

  51. gamustangdude says: Nov 25, 2010 1:50 PM

    You’re an idiot WEDGY, you continue to argue apples and Oranges i.e. SOS (apples) and OVERALL power rankings (oranges) they are not the same thing genius. Stop trying to say that they are.

    From now on, don’t comment on my posts, you’ve proved that there is no logic in your arguments, just random “WEDGYNESS.” You consistently ignore facts that disprove your points and prove other points. Maybe you hate admitting the truth, I don’t know. However keep buying into your own ignorance, while everyone else faces reality.

    I could care less about Power rankings, that’s not my argument. My argument is based on one simple fact, the Strenght of Schedule. Which is 50 and 63, BTW. You trying to bring up thier powere rankgins doesn’t disprove thier SOS rankings. It doesn’t, apples vs oranges.

    Continue to be an idiot and ignorant

    I’m done.

  52. edgy says: Nov 25, 2010 2:00 PM

    BTW, I’m outta here. Have a safe and happy Thanksgiving and watch out for the drunks.

  53. edgy says: Nov 25, 2010 2:22 PM

    One last thing, let’s not forget that after the first Thanksgiving that Crazy Like A Fox had his first Black Friday Wampum blowout. :lol:

  54. edgy says: Nov 25, 2010 11:38 PM

    Gay Mustang, you’re an ignorant fool who won’t admit that he came into the middle of a conversation and tried to change its direction and then tried to be a hypocrite by pointing to a site that shows that Boise and TCU had really low SOS “ratings” (which wasn’t the conversation that you pushed your way into) but didn’t want anyone to know that they also listed them as their #1 and #6 OVERALL ranked teams. In other words, HYPOCRITE, you cherry pick your data but are too stupid to realize that others actually have the ability to click on OTHER links on the site to find out how THEY feel about the teams that you keep trashing.

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