Getty ImagesThe reports connecting Charlie Weis to a job on Will Muschamp‘s Florida staff first surfaced earlier in the week.
On New Year’s Day, it appears those reports have become all but official.
According to the Associated Press, and citing a source familiar with the decision, the Gators have hired Weis as their new offensive coordinator and that an official announcement should be coming Monday.
Weis is expected to remain with the Chiefs through the NFL playoffs before joining the team in Gainesville.
Weis’ only experience at the collegiate level was as the head coach at Notre Dame. During his five years at South Bend, the Irish compiled a 35-27 record. He was fired in November of 2009.
Is there a better offensive coach in the country than Charlie Weiss? Wow…their head coach is a Defensive guru, they add Charlie Weiss as Offensive coordinator. They will land just about any recruit they want…..but it still won’t be enough to turn the tide……Roll Tide
The restaurant community in Gainesville just gave out a collective cheer.
Weiss is certainly a great OC, poor HC, but great OC. It will be interesting to see what he can do with elite athletes rather than the scraps he had to suffer with at ND. Unless Charlie is retiring, I don’t see him as a long term solution.
WingT, yes, there is.
LOL…good one
good hire…i hope
Wow!! Great for Florida!! Would still like to know how all this came about. No slam on Florida, but just seems odd for him to go from an OC in the NFL to an OC in the NCAA. Can see where he might have clashed with Haley since they’re both offensive guys (I mean that in the strategic sense). But he could easily have gone to another NFL team. So he must have wanted the slightly slower pace of college ball. Wonder if it’s a health thing.
At any rate … this guy knows his stuff from an offensive perspective, and Muschamp is a great defensive guy. Florida’s in good shape. Depending on their recruiting, they should be able to quickly compete at a high level.
Should be an interesting 2011 season
ROLL TIDE!!
Muschamp is stupid. Seriously, does he plan on putting in a big buyout clause in the contract because Weis won’t stick around for more than a couple of years and then he’s back to square one.
@edge …
You don’t think Weis is a good OC?
dont need coaches for more than a couple, 3 years anyhow…its a burnout league, baby
edgy,
I really question your football acumen. Even if rented for a year or two, this is a great hire. If he is retiring for a more laid back pace, this is an all world hire. There is no way to classify this as a ‘stupid’ move.
I hope this means we can still sign Driskel. Nice hire gators!
That dude is going to need a couple towels when they have games at the swamp in 80+ sunny weather. He is going to sweat a swamp.
From what I have heard… (unconfirmed)
Weis’ son worked in the football offices under Muschamp at Texas, and followed him to UF. It seems that Charlie is doing this so the two can work together.
I think we may find out more on Monday. I was the biggest doubter on here when this story first broke. However I now have reason to believe that he is going to make more money than any coordinator has ever made in college. We will see Monday. That would explain a lot of things.
He can now ruin the Gator QB’s like he did with Quinn and Clausen!! Enjoy the Gator and Outback bowl Florida fans for the next 5 years!
Deb and Gatorprof:
Look, you can drink that Kool-Aid but let’s start with this fact: when Tom Brady feels off his game, he doesn’t pick up the phone to call Weis; he calls his high school coach.
When he was getting all the praise about Brady Quinn, I took a lot of crap from ND fans for saying this: let’s see how well he does when he has to start from the bottom like Willingham. Let’s not forget (and most do) that Ty took one for the team when he started Quinn as a freshman and kept him as the starter, even though the guy that he replaced due to injury was healthy. Ty let Quinn take all the bumps and bruises and put up losses and by the time that Weis got him, he was already done with most of the learning and he just needed a little direction. Weis benefited from that and then when HE had to put a freshman out there, his offense was even more clueless. In fact, it was well into the season before any of HIS recruits scored a TD for ND and his offense was a joke for Clausen’s first two years.
You can point to NE but remember, he took over a NE team that had an established QB and the offense got worse and if it weren’t for Mo Lewis, I’d be hard pressed to believe that the Patriots could even pull of even an 8-8 season with Bledsoe at QB (and this was a guy that went to a Super Bowl sans Weis). Brady is currently on his 5th OC and he’s done quite well without Weis, thank you.
You can point to KC but again, QB that didn’t need Weis and did quite well with NE but the Chiefs had no real WR and they traded away their TE. The big differences this year were at WR, TE and backup RB — all of which have NOTHING to do with Weis. In fact, for the first half of the season the fans in KC were grousing about the offense and his play calling.
I’m not saying that he’s not a good OC but that he’s a highly OVERRATED OC. Seriously, did NE fall apart after he left? How about ND? Do you think that KC will? Let’s also not forget that hat he’s also made it clear that he believes that he has something that he feels that his experience as a head coach allows him to be able to basically tell the head coach what he can do to be more successful (It sounds innocent but the way he said it was definitely arrogant. I mean, really, what does a failure as a head coach have to tell another head coach, especially when it’s clear that he doesn’t realize that he was a failure).
One last thing, gatorprof, where do you get a more laid back pace? Now, you’re talking like blitz because he doesn’t have to recruit with the Chiefs and he certainly doesn’t have to go running all over the country or even the state of Florida. He makes good money and I think that he will be a pain in he ass because he’s such an arrogant ass and he’s going to wear out his welcome. Florida doesn’t have a Brady Quinn on its roster and I don’t think that he’s capable of turning Brantley around and I don’t think that he sticks around for more than a year. It’s not like Oklahoma State, which had the talent on the team, he’s got a lot less to work with, especially since Meyer let Pouncey screw up the center position for two years by playing when he should have moved back to guard and now someone else has to start from scratch.
he is a coordinator, people. not the head coach. chill
edgy,
Re: “Look, you can drink that Kool-Aid but let’s start with this fact: when Tom Brady feels off his game, he doesn’t pick up the phone to call Weis; he calls his high school coach.”
This may be the best non sequitir of 2011…way to start strong!
I will be brief….at NE: 3 rings. NE has zero rings sans Charlie. I don’t know if there is or isn’t cause and effect here.
Re: “I’m not saying that he’s not a good OC but that he’s a highly OVERRATED OC.”
Name other OCs with 3 rings…quick!
@edge …
Whoa! I’m not drinking Kool-aid. To me, coordinators are guys who call plays, not necessarily guys who develop QBs. By saying Weis is a good OC, I never in a million years meant to imply he should get credit for developing Brady. My brother was at the Orange Bowl when Brady decimated Bama. He carried on nonstop about the guy. After Brady went sixth in the draft, my brother called to tell me the Pats had unknowingly picked up a sleeper superstar. So I know Weis didn’t create Brady. But as gatorprof points out, the Pats did have a mega-successful run with Weis managing the offense.
I’ll definitely buy that clash of egos bit. Figured that’s why he left KC. Haley is an offense guy and not exactly Miss Congeniality himself. Didn’t think he and Weis would be the best mix. Weschamp may find him hard to handle as well. But if Weis can stick to his own responsibilities, he knows how to call plays. And if they have the QB talent, he can get them away from some of this spread stuff and over to a more NFL-style offense.
Really? How about one with 4, gator prof.. Jesus.
BTW, how many rings does he have WITHOUT Brady, genius? As I’ve said many times before, Belichick, Crennel and Weis should all have Mo Lewis as their presenter, if they should make it into the HOF because if he doesn’t take down Bledsoe, they’re out of NE by the end of year 2. They were 5-13 when Mo took Drew down and they weren’t about to turn the offense over to Brady unless that happened. FYI, it’s the DEFENSE that’s been the problem and NOT the offense and any Patriot fan or hater would tell you the same.
Edgy,
before you start sarcastically calling others “genius”, you might want to learn the rules in college. There are only a certain number if coaches that are allowed to go out recruiting (7 If I remember correctly), and clearly Charlie will not be one of the coaches doing so.
Aside from that, during that long-winded rant of yours, you seem to have completely overlooked my point earlier about his son working here now.
Simply, you dont have a clue….
Edgy,
You have come up with the secret that OCs are highly OVERRATED if they win Super Bowls with great quarterbacks. I checked and I couldn’t believe how many OVERRATED OCs won Super Bowls. You are so right. they all had good quarterbacks. What offensive guru in the NFL with a bad quarterback would you have suggested Muschamp pick up, or was he supposed to find Brady’s high school coach? How could Belichick been so stupid as to keep Weiss year after year, ring after ring, when you could have come up with Brady’s high school coach as a replacement. Here I sit trying to figure out who better to judge coaching talent… Edgy in my one hand, Belichick in my other? Edgy or Belichick? Edgy or Belichick?
@noaxetogrind
Gee–the highest paid OC and more of laid back job structure—-Have you heard that before,
When you were being such a pompous ass?
Do you like your crow under glass? You think YOU are embarrassing yourself?
@GorillaDunk
Eat $hit and die!!!!!! ROFLMFAO
@Edgy
Weis will be a closer–not out on the recruiting trail constantly. UF has a QB coach—Weiss is the OC. Weis is calling all the plays and 100% in charge of overseeing the O game plans. Muschamp has no O experience and now has a high profile(for recruiting recognition) OC that can do the job.
As for Brantley–he should be playing for Delaware, Georgia Southern or Wofford next yr.
He sealed the deal yesterday with all his 3rd down 3 yd passes that were ALWAYS inside the 1st down markers. He is a real nice kid but if he is smart he will transfer to a FCS school or he’ll finish his Gator career on the bench as he did a good part of yesterday, especially in crunch time during the 4th qtr.
Weiss is leaving KC because Haley runs the offense. If KC felt he was important to their success they would just pay him more money to stay.
I have know idea how he will do at UF he is a good recruiter. As for an OC I have no idea, Tom Brady has made alot of people look really good. Look no further than Josh McDaniels.
@blitz…congratulations, after throwing darts at the board and your hundreds of “insider” posts about Fla football and their coaches, you FINALLY got one correct (albeit AFTER you read the report somewhere). Facts are, you’re nothing but a jock sniffing former student that wants to come on these boards and present yourself as an “insider” with top-secret information. Because you have a”Gator Club” (or whatever they call it at UF) decal on your window doesn’t mean shit. You wrote your check for $100 and they mailed you the window sticker. You threw buckets of crap against the wall over the past month and finally something stuck. Wow !! You really ARE an insider!
@Magillagorilla
You are the QUEEN of exaggeration. Never claimed to be an insider. Probably contribute more to our program annually than you earn!
Not a wannabe anything–enjoy this board and MOST of the commentors.
You are some johny come lately that has absolutely “nothing” to contribute but loves to criticize–that’s why you fit as a “misfit” on PFT!
Didn’t think you would manup when you were
dead WRONG!!!!
Oops …
Guess everyone knows I meant Brady went in the sixth round, not sixth in the draft.
Goodness … can’t we all just get along
Deb, who was the OC when Brady had has best and second best career years? Hint: NOT Charlie Weis. They’ve gotten better over the years and the offense has evolved from what it was before and it was the fact that the defense that didn’t keep up that has kept them from another Super Bowl win. In fact, if the DB hadn’t let the game slip through his fingers, they’d have won a 4th and been the first to 19-0.
to other: I know the rules and the rules DO NOT preclude him from recruiting NOR do they limit him from recruiting (and since he’s not the coach-in-waiting, he also doesn’t have restrictions on him like the head coach). Now, maybe Muschamp has promised him that he won’t go on the trail BUT he is NOT forbidden from doing it. Maybe YOU need to spend some time going over those rules.
I didn’t say that he was overrated because he won 3 Super Bowls with a great QB but that he got far too much credit for what happened. He didn’t leave NE to go to a pro team to pick up the pieces like Crennel or McDaniels, he got a gig with ND with a team whose QB had already been broken in and a fairly decent defense and an offense that had a decent OL and some young skill players. Three years later, he’s now in the position that Ty was in BUT he was even worse than Ty and his boys had the worst season since 1960 and their offense really stunk. He touted how great a recruiter he was and yet, his OWN offense talent didn’t score until the middle of the season. His best players for his last 2 years were Willingham’s kids and while this has nothing to do with being an OC, it does about how overrated he was.
What makes me laugh is that you guys talk as if Florida just has to fart and the in-state recruits sniff it and sign on the dotted line and NOW, you talk about how Weis is going to help in recruiting. I hate to say this but in the last 6 years under Urban Meyer, he’s done quite well and he never had Charlie Weis making phone calls for him, even when he first got there. If you guys think that Weis will improve the class that much then the mighty have really fallen sans Urban (or even Zook). Since he’s going to be gone in a year or two, what makes you think that a recruit is going to want to sign specifically for him when he knows that he won’t be around to help him when he’s a junior or senior? Do you think that the recruits are too stupid to understand that Weis WANTS another HC job and he’ll take one in college, the NFL or Arena League, if it means that he gets good pay and gets to call the shots?
Drink from the Kool-Aid fountain that is Weis. After all, Denver thought that they could recreate the same magic with Josh McDaniels and look what that got them. Charlie is going to wear out his welcome because he’s eventually going to try to tell Muschamp how he would do it, if he were the head coach and he’s going to get tired of hearing it.
Hey, what do I know? I only told you guys before the season that it was a big mistake for them to play Pouncey at center just to boost his NFL stock and boy, did I take some shit for that.
Edgy:
ALL that just to get to your last sentence “Hey, what do I know? I only told you guys before the season that it was a big mistake for them to play Pouncey at center just to boost his NFL stock and boy, did I take some shit for that”. Which is really what YOU wanted everyone to remember!! Your Unbelievable & longwinded….geesh…take a breath will you!!
Concerning Weiss and recruits. It’s funny because whenever someone gets hired, this board always lights up about how recruits will flock to certain coaches, coordinators…because of supposed NFL connections.
We heard it about if Cowher and others….why is it different for Weiss?? Whether YOU believe he is overrated is NOT important to current recruits!!!
The botton line is Weiss is considered a great OC…and just like previous posts talking about how hs school kids look for programs that will prepare them for the NFL…this situation is no different and is a great hire for Florida. What you think is irrelevant. We’ll see how recruiting for Florida ends up. No doubt we will hear from you minimizing the effect that Weiss had!!! Lol…
Yea buddy, I hope he is as successful at Floorida as he was at Notre Dame! There will be much head butting, and not by the players, at UF
In general, with a few exceptions, the best, most consistant college football teams are the ones with the largest coach, facilities and recruiting budgets. The rich get richer just like in MLB. Won’t be long before someone will start calling for a cap in college ball! Maybe the divisions should be made by budgets?
So, gatorfan1, you believe that suddenly, Florida will NOW become a school that high school players will want to play for because they think that their chances of going to the NFL have increased? You mean that they’ll FINALLY get some guys drafted in the first round by the NFL? You mean that someone will actually put them on their team and into the starting lineup like has never happened before? You mean that they’ll make fans forget about Pouncey and Tebow and Harvin and Murphy and …. like YOU have. Seriously, what does Weis bring to Florida that they don’t already have? If they flock to Florida to play for HIM then they’re seriously deluded because he’s not going to be around for them when they’re juniors and seniors and then they’ll have to deal with another OC, who probably has a different style of play calling. What happens if Muschamp wakes up and realizes that the offense doesn’t work and he needs to change horses? We know that Charlie won’t adapt and then you’ve got a bunch of players that don’t fit the system. Also, despite what some of you guys think, it was the TALENT that was the problem and NOT the play calling. You guys are too deluded into believing that they could have done much better with another play caller but the play was too inconsistent for anyone to do any better. Hell, you guys sound just like the Longhorn fans, who believe that a new OC will fix Gilbert when only a good smack on the head might do him more good. A good or great OC CAN NOT make up for poor play by the offense. There were too many problems last year for anyone to seriously blame the piss poor performance on the OC play calling but Florida’s fans have managed to do it. Whatever, you guys live in your delusions and I’ll laugh my ass off in 2012 when he leaves and you’re holding the bag. Ciao.
@Edgy:
Well first off I was more upset at the defense this year than the offense. Also, unlike a lot of Florida fans I do not think it was Addazio’s fault and like the spread offense.
However, the point is most rivals point to the fact that many recruits won’t go to Florida because of the spread. They say kids want to play in a system that prepares them for the NFL. I’m not saying that the perception is correct, but it does exist.
And because of that factor alone, Weis is a very good hire. Unfortunately, because of the offense’s failures this year, FSU and some other programs made some huge gains in recruiting this year BECAUSE of the spread and how our offense performed this year. James Wilder is a prime example, he was all set to pledge to Florida, however FSU convinced him that he would be better suited for the NFL if he played at a college with a pro type offense.
And you need to stop thinking you are some sort of Oracle with your posts, and believe that you think at a much higher level and are smarter than the rest of us. You don’t and you’re not!!
As a historical note,
Weis didn’t just have success with the Pats as OC. He did a fantastic job with the Jets reviving Vinny T. in 98…QB rating = 101.6 career high. 99 was a wash because Vinny went down in Game 1.
Weis is a good recruiter for the same reason that most ex-NFL guys are good recruiters. They can sell kids that they know what it takes to succeed at the next level and have great connections. This, along with UF’s recent history, will attract top offensive talent for CW’s offensive scheme.
Simply put, this is a good hire. We will see right away if he has any impact between now and signing day.
@edge …
The DB didn’t cost them XLII. That was Divine Intervention. Told everyone I knew the whole season and post-season that Divine Intervention would intercede and they would not win the Super Bowl … and so it did
Pouncey II never should have been playing center. But how do you think Pouncey would fare as an NFL guard?
Edgy,
You are truly blessed with knowledge that exceeds those in the past. I don’t think Muschamp knows Weis is going to only be at Florida for one year or maybe two. That must be the reason Weiss would leave one of the most improved NFL playoff teams, to spend time building the offense on a high profile college team for two years so he can go somewhere else. Do you think he looks at Florida as a stepping stone to be the OC of the St. Louis Rams?Perhaps he wants to use Florida as a stepping stone to be the OC at one of the premier schools in the frozen tundra like Michigan. If talented head coaches like Urban Meyer can walk away, talented OCs like Charlie Weis might want to coach for the fun and challenge of being at UF.
They’re already blaming KC’s loss to Oakland, today, on the distraction of Weis going to Florida, which makes Weis the villain once again. Cassell will now have to go to his high school coach to find out how to play QB before next week. Obviously, Weis is making this temporary move to Florida because he has a sense of humor. How many Super Bowl rings does a 56 year old guy need? Weis needs five Super Bowl rings like Meyer needs one. Is it just possible that Weis has found his place to live and work, in Florida to do what he loves to do, without the pressures of a head coach and the arrogance of the NFL. Charlie doesn’t impress me as South Beach kind of guy.
Edgy, where would you work and live at 56, having been the head coach of Notre Dame and having four Super Bowl rings. I think Florida has found a great long term OC and Weis has found utopia.
@Mr. Oracle (AKA Edgy)
One more thing before I move on. When Muschamp was hired he indicated that Florida would run a pro style offense and was looking to hire a big name, preferably from the NFL.
So YOU wouldn’t hire Weis if he was available to run your Pro Style Offense??? So tell me, based on the hiring credentials Muschamp set forth, who would you have hired??? Just curios since you know way more football than the rest of us and especially me.