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Ohio State survives, no longer property of the SEC


Somewhere in the 9th Circle of Hell, Satan is holding a contract signed with Jim Delany‘s blood.

And it may have been worth it, too.

It’s only one win, but Ohio State’s thrilling 31-26 victory over Arkansas in the Sugar Bowl did two things: 1) it prevented the Big Ten from getting completely shut out by the SEC after what later became known as the  New Year’s Day massacre and 2) removed the “property of the SEC” tattoo from Ohio State’s forehead.

Don’t worry, they paid for it in full.

In all seriousness, though, the impact of Ohio State’s win can’t be stressed enough. The SEC is college football’s measuring stick and how a team or a conference does against the SEC carries a significant amount of a weight. Even though Georgia was a .500 team this season, Central Florida can say they beat an SEC team. That means something.

Likewise, beating Arkansas at the BCS level means a great deal not only to Ohio State, but to the Big Ten.

Granted, Terrelle Pryor and the Buckeye Five shouldn’t have been playing tonight, but if you’re Bobby Petrino and Arkansas, you should want Pryor. You should want Ohio State at full strength. That’s just the competitive nature.

Arkansas had plenty of chances, too. The Razorbacks’ wide receivers dropped countless balls from Ryan Mallett, who was often on the run thanks to Ohio State’s pass rush. Down late in the fourth quarter, Arkansas made a great play by blocking a punt deep in Ohio State territory, but couldn’t capitalize to win the game.

Ohio State just played better.

So, to the Buckeyes and the Big Ten, enjoy the win.

Because the verbal lashings about your conference’s supposed inferiority, not to mention “Legends” and “Leaders”, from the southeastern part of the U.S. are set to begin in … now.

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106 Responses to “Ohio State survives, no longer property of the SEC”
  1. dkhhuey says: Jan 5, 2011 1:26 AM

    I do not care about the Big Ten vs. SEC – all I care about is the Buckeyes! Thank you for the incredibly intense game and a sweet victory!!! Not so much for the 5 years you shaved off my life! I believe I will now crawl into the corner and have another heart attack or two.

    To the Tat 5 – you totally screwed up but you most certainly put it all on the line tonight!

  2. gotta keep my mouth shut says: Jan 5, 2011 1:37 AM

    dkhhuey is exactly right….what is it with all these morons thinking i give a sh*& what Michigan or Penn State does in a bowl game, they both suck

    and there seems to be a certain young lady missing here, i cant seem to find BLITZ anywhere

    where did his talk of the SEC domination go? oh wait, i know, he will just say arkansas was a weak SEC team and didnt deserve to be there

    but seriously tho, it was a great, hard-fought game, Sugar Bowl of the decade, you could even say

  3. mborz says: Jan 5, 2011 1:41 AM

    Great game no matter who won. Just a great football game to watch.

    In my eyes, the Big 10 massacre thing is a total overreaction. They represented themselves well this year, apart from 2 games: Michigan (which should have been expected), and Michigan State.

    But, just like OSU will likely be given too much credit for this win, the teams that lost close games on New Years were given too much grief in their losses. People like to overreact.

    But, congratulations to the Buckeyes. Their first half offense was really impressive and their defense was perfect for Arkansas last two possessions.

  4. frug says: Jan 5, 2011 2:08 AM

    This was a great game for football fans and Ohio State, but I’m not sure the Big 10 needed this as much as so thought they did. While this certainly hasn’t been a great bowl season for the conference it’s mostly because the Michigan schools got outscored 101-21 on New Year’s Day. Outside of those games the Big 10 had gone 2 for 5 prior to tonight’s game including an Iowa victory over a ranked Missouri team. Now obviously the UM and MSU games still count, but 3 for 8 isn’t really a terrible final record.

  5. randymiller says: Jan 5, 2011 2:58 AM

    Let’s see, OSU players get five game suspensions for discount tatoos, and exchanging memorabilia for favors. And Pryor gets investigated for driving one loaner that was 4 years old, and the other was a Dodge (not the first choice of your typical college kid).

    And nothing happens to Cam Newton. Nobody with half a brain believes he is innocent, nobody with half a brain believes he did not know his father was shopping him around. My first inclination is to say that SEC schools have better lawyers than big 10 schools. More likely, NCAA officials have better chiropractors, because they have to spin their heads around 3 revolutions to look the other way when it comes to Cam Newton’s transgressions. Cam Newton got corrupted by his own dad and booster money. The NCAA has gotten far more corrupted by TV money.

  6. miguelito65 says: Jan 5, 2011 3:34 AM

    That SEC monkey is finally off of tOSU’s back! As someone who has lived in LSU country for four years this game was sweeet! The stadium was about half and half but the Razorback fans were little crazier/louder I think… I think most of us tOSU fans were quieter due to our history against the SEC and quite frankly I for one was worried, especially throughout the entire 2nd half. But the monkey’s gone now and that’s two straight wins in BCS games! The Bucks are now 6-3 which sets an NCAA record for most appearances and tied with wins at 6 along with USC. It’s a great day to be a Buckeye!!

  7. jakeblues68 says: Jan 5, 2011 3:56 AM

    Ohio State’s win came against a 2nd tier SEC school. Had they played Auburn or Alabama, the Fighting Sweater Vests would have been massacred, as usual.

  8. gatorprof says: Jan 5, 2011 6:51 AM

    Good win for OSU…great game. Congrats to the vest and his followers. Tough loss for Ark who has to live with “would have, could have” from this game. Too many crucial drops and a very stupid through from Ryan at the end.

    It is very odd for a player to be apologizing during the victory celebration…very odd.

  9. steelers6pack says: Jan 5, 2011 6:54 AM

    Where is SEC fan at now? 0-1 in BCS games so far SEC! When Auburn goes down it will classic when no SEC fan says anything..oh wait they will say we won the Outback Bowl!

  10. blitz4848 says: Jan 5, 2011 6:59 AM

    Great game by 2 good teams but the better team won. Arkansas was NOT a 2nd tier team–they finished 2nd in the SEC West and were 10-2. They lost at Bama by 4 and lost Auburn after Mallet got injured. NO EXCUSES Arkansas lost the game and I lost some $$$$
    @Brownstown—you told me so-lmao–CONGRATS

  11. macbull says: Jan 5, 2011 7:02 AM

    Never have a I seen a college football program targeted by the Sports media like Ohio State has been. How extreme is it?

    The headline from Fox news/sports this morning after Ohio State wins the Sugar Bowl reads…

    ….Suspended Buckeyes got a free pass….

    This is for all the Ohio State “haters”, like FOX SPORTs…enjoy!


  12. CBFAN says: Jan 5, 2011 8:16 AM

    Looks like it takes more than a Mallett to crush a Buckeye! Nice win Bucks.

  13. zoso17 says: Jan 5, 2011 8:17 AM

    Notice that the SEC fans that were posting smack all over Monday night’s game recap are nowhere to be seen. They go scurrying away like rats from a ship.

  14. mrsports1 says: Jan 5, 2011 8:21 AM

    Ohio State finally wins a game against the SEC and all of a sudden they are no longer owned by that conference? Give me a break. They are still the SEC’s bitch, give a recovered fumble. To determine if Ohio State is owned by the SEC look at the track record over the last several years.

    Show me a few more victories by Ohio State in the next few years against SEC teams and I’ll be prepared to accept the change. Until then, a nice win, for once. Nothing more. They can be thankful they didn’t play Auburn.

  15. gamustangdude says: Jan 5, 2011 8:24 AM

    SEC fan here. Congrats but winning 1 game out of ten doesn’t rid Ohio State from sec dominance. All you did was end the win streak. Broken clock is right at least twice a day, every dog has it’s day Congrats!!

  16. mrsports1 says: Jan 5, 2011 8:25 AM

    And 208017, I’m here and I’m enjoying the fact that the Big 10 got their asses handed to them on sa platter over the last several days and only Ohio State kept them from being completely humiliated. We aren’t necessarily gone from here, it’s just that whenever we show up, we have to play the same song. I’m sure you Big 10 fans can hum the tune by now.

  17. bikerhal says: Jan 5, 2011 8:30 AM

    Sorry, but LSU would have given a better accounting (two fluke plays gave Arkansas their win). Arkansas could not handle Cam, and it figured they couldn’t handle Pryor. Adding to it is that Arkansas is not a perennial power and couldn’t handle the spotlight. Wow, they sure had their opportunities though. Ball on the 15 with 50 seconds to go and he throws an int. I would have taken three shots into the end zone. Oh well, Mallett choked against Bama, and for now at least, he is not “there” as an elite college QB yet.

    Difference in the game was Pryor’s runs on third down and OSU’s Dline owning the Hogs’ Oline.

    Still, SEC is the measuring stick. If we take the NC trophy, 5 straight years, that speaks for itself in my opinion.

  18. steelers6pack says: Jan 5, 2011 8:34 AM

    MEAN13 WHERE ARE YOU! SEC 0-1 in BCS games so far! Mallett and off line exposed in your back yard! SEC fan will say we won Gator Bowl! Oh by the way SEC fan.. Central Florida beat Georgia! LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

  19. chachooga says: Jan 5, 2011 8:53 AM

    Yeah so the sucko Legends & Leaders get bailed out from complete utter bowls season FAIL by their Tat 5…..nice.

    What a joke Ohio State is….Tat 5 QB and Tat 5 DL save the day….and somehow all the sports world is celebrating.

    A joke.

    Legends & Leaders… overrated bunch of cheaters coming to your town soon….watch out!!!

  20. gotta keep my mouth shut says: Jan 5, 2011 8:56 AM

    wah wah wah, arkansas sucks, they didn’t really have a chance, thatt’s all we hear from these SEC trolls

    if you truly feel bad enough for SEC fans, go to Walmart and hug the greeter, they’re one in the same

  21. mitifinenoles says: Jan 5, 2011 8:57 AM

    I never uderstand all the my conference is better than your conference stuff. What does that mean…….?The Buckeyes beat the Hogs in a great game so they have scoreboard. It doesn’t mean the SEC is less or the Big 10 more it just means that game went to the Bucks. It was fun to watch and the better team won.

  22. gotta keep my mouth shut says: Jan 5, 2011 8:59 AM

    chachooga, isn’t ur post kinda like that youtube video? Lol

    “they comin to ur houses, snatchin all ur peoples up, watch out”

    lol keep crying my friend

  23. Rosenthals Speling Instrukter says: Jan 5, 2011 9:07 AM

    Congrats for winning a BCS game that does not matter. Enjoy celebrating that win while Auburn hold up the 5th straight national title.

    Your conference is garbage. Boise State would have gone 13-0 this year if they were in the Big 10.

    TCU beat your conference champion in your bowl.

  24. myspaceyourface says: Jan 5, 2011 9:08 AM

    #1 team in big ten vs. #3 or #4 team in SEC

    good job buckeyes

  25. chachooga says: Jan 5, 2011 9:16 AM

    Mouth guy….

    Do you see what i see….(another familiar line your creative mind may make a conection to)….OSU’s tat 5 gets to be heros, UFs Urban heart attack Meyer gets the full retirements celebration with hugs and smug looks, I am surprised there was no power point presentation… think they bailed out one of his 30 arrested players?!?!?

    But UM fires Randy Shannon because he didn’t win. The guy totally turned UM into a model program on and off the field. But he didn’t win.

    So we celebrate the Tat 5 and Urbey (as Tirico said more than once “just a great guy”). Do you see what I see?!!?

    I am indeed no Hawgs fan…..but I do see Legends vs. Leaders gets under your skin a little….hahahaha….don’t worry it will sound tough eventually!

  26. florida727 says: Jan 5, 2011 9:20 AM

    I love all the Big 10 apologetics coming out of the woodwork since their conference won ONE BCS game. How’d Wisconsin do representing you guys?

    If, and it is a big IF, Auburn can beat Oregon, it’s FIVE national titles IN A ROW. Even if it ends at FOUR, can the Little 10 match it.

    Face it, like it or not, the SEC is the measuring stick in college football, so get over yourselves. You play a good brand of football, but you can’t (at least for now) compete top-to-bottom with the SEC.

    By the way, I’m still trying to figure out why it’s called the “Big 10”. Aren’t there ELEVEN schools in the conference, soon to be more? Can’t you guys even count? No wonder going 3 for 8 in bowls this year seems like dominance…

  27. mborz says: Jan 5, 2011 9:34 AM

    I completely agree with mitifinenoles. The whole “conference” attitude is a bit beyond me. I can understand people being homers for their own teams, but when it turns to the conference, it’s kind of like this “my Dad is better than your Dad” thing, where you’re not bragging about yourself, but others around you. I don’t really get it. Seems infantile.

    I think it would be better if there were more non-conference games later in the season. Maybe people wouldn’t get so hung up on it.

    I watch to see great games and great matchups. Period. I don’t care what conference, what ranking, etc. I’d think any real football fan would think the same way — it’s all about the game.

    And last night’s game was very entertaining.

    Hats off to both teams.

  28. polegojim says: Jan 5, 2011 9:43 AM

    Great OSU win –

    Win with Respect, lose with Dignity.

    No matter which, give every man his Honor.

    That works for every conference.

  29. gamustangdude says: Jan 5, 2011 10:02 AM

    @gotta keep my mouth shut says

    Calm down Lenny and George, OSU won one game. The SEC is NOT 0-1 they are 3-4 if you meant they are 0-1 on January 4th 2011 ok you can have that, since 2011 against the big ten the SEC is 3-1. Like I said before (pointing at Steelers6pack) OSU won 1 game out 10, 10 FREAKING 10! And now we are trolling. Roger, enjoy the Sugar bowl win, that’s all you got.

    10-3 UCF was supposed to lose to the 6-6 UGA? Or was it because the number 8/9 team in the SEC lost to the number 1 team in conference USA? Either way, BIG 10 fans can never talk SH!T, remember Appalachian state or Wisconsin’s lost to their Non-Aq? Keep hope alive Big ten fans. Enjoy today, we’ll enjoy the other 364.

  30. gotta keep my mouth shut says: Jan 5, 2011 10:16 AM

    when will these fools get it through their heads lol it doesn’t matter what the Big 10 does, it matters to me what OSU does lol it’s really sad some people on here have the need to wanna root for a winning team so badly that they root for 12 lol

    those are the people who should be laughed at and feel embarrassed lol (talkin right to you all of you SEC bandwagoners……and the baby blitz4848, where is he today?)

  31. lucky5927 says: Jan 5, 2011 10:16 AM

    Here we go with the SEC vs. Big 10 debate again. Let’s not take away from the Buckeye’s victory last night. They made plays when it mattered and Arkansas did not (Dropped touchdown passes anyone?). Point is this, OSU deserved the win. They looked great in the first half and held on for the win in spite of some very iffy calls. But that doesn’t take away from the overall dominating way the SEC has had over the Big 10 this bowl season. So let’s lay off the debate and hope Auburn can bring home another (5th consecutive) National Championship to the SEC.

  32. gamustangdude says: Jan 5, 2011 10:26 AM

    @gotta keep my mouth shut says

    You’re right I’m proud of the SEC however even more proud of the Dawgs. That being said. OSU beat Arkansas, however the last time OSU played UGA in a BCS bowl game, UGA won. So I’ll keep laying it on (even with our 6-7 record) until OSU (Ohio) beats UGA in a BCS bowl game, untill that happens, STFU!! OSU sucks!!

    Go Dawgs

  33. rgarbonzo says: Jan 5, 2011 10:41 AM

    Blah, blah, blah SEC! Blach, blah blah Big 1(1)0. The Big 10 hasn’t done even 500 in bowl games this year, big deal! MSU was owned by the defending Nat’l Champs with a Heisman trophy winning RB. Wisconsin was defeated by TCU, a small college sure but also undefeated and a damn good football team. The SEC chest thumping is almost comical. Urban Meyer (HC Bowling Green – Utah – Florida) came in and won 2 NC’s. Nick Saban (HC Toledo – MSU – LSU – Bama) rebuilt LSU then moved to the NFL before returning and winning 1 NC at Bama. So two coaches and teams own 3/4 of the so called dominance. Really? If thats the case then go MAC for giving these 2 National Championship winning yankee coaches thier start and going down south to reteach the SEC football! BTW the SEC doesn’t have a winng conf vs conf record against the Big East.

  34. dkhhuey says: Jan 5, 2011 10:45 AM

    Don’t care what the other 10 Big Ten teams did all year – the only thing that matters is OSU beat Arkansas in the Sugar Bowl game last night!!! Arkansas is a very good team and so is OSU and in the end, it came down to one play with 58 seconds left! Congrats to my Buckeyes for a very gutsy, hard hitting, slug fest victory and congrats to Arkansas for putting up an equally great performance.

  35. gatorfan1 says: Jan 5, 2011 10:52 AM

    1 – 9 is still owned in anyone’s book…

    And OSU’s best defense last night were the Arkansas receivers hands!!! They SUCKED….

  36. CBFAN says: Jan 5, 2011 11:01 AM

    I was wondering when I would see that comment. The receivers were afraid to catch the ball for fear of a beating. Arkansas was not ready for smash mouth football.

  37. dkhhuey says: Jan 5, 2011 11:07 AM

    gatorprof – stop fucking whining and making excuses. You are a poor loser! OSU dropped passes and fumbled the ball as well but stepped up and made the plays when it counted. God you’re pathetic.

  38. grizzlion74 says: Jan 5, 2011 11:16 AM

    Hey, I’m a car dealer in Columbus and I just got myself an Orange Bowl ring. All I had to do was give TP an Escalade lease for next year. There’s nothing wrong with that if he apologizes on national TV, right!

  39. blitz4848 says: Jan 5, 2011 11:18 AM

    gotta keep my mouth shut says:

    those are the people who should be laughed at and feel embarrassed lol (talkin right to you all of you SEC bandwagoners……and the baby blitz4848, where is he today?)
    Hey $hit for brains I was on here early this morning and paid my respects to OSU commenters.
    You might try “trolling” back through the posts before you “keep making an a$$ of yourself.” I posted on here before your mommy got you up to nurse you… are a classless, clueless little troll who is an embarrassment to other OSU commentors!!!!!!
    I do apologize for telling you to “man up” in the past because you are just a little boy who doesn’t understand what that means………….

  40. CBFAN says: Jan 5, 2011 11:28 AM

    Grizzlion, the NCAA rule the Buckeyes violated is known as the “Bulldog Bylaw”. So named as it was instituted after 9 members of the Georgia Bulldogs sold their 2002 SEC championship rings. When Georgia’s AJ Green sold his jersey last summer, the NCAA came down on Georgia because one of their own had broken their namesake ”Bulldog Bylaw”.

  41. fbref says: Jan 5, 2011 11:41 AM

    I hate posting messages on blogs b/c I have better sh&t to do, but this is so crazy I have to say something…..
    First of all, SEC fans, so what your league is awesome…so what, who cares. A true fan cheers on their team, not their league.
    Second, Arkansas has no class. How many times did Mallett kick like a baby after Cameron or another Buckeye D-fender ate his lunch. Pryor is run O.B. on the Arkansas sideline and hit marginally late….the Arkansas sideline goes out of their way to ignore him and act like he doesn’t exist…how bout this, show some class and extend your hand…losers, but I would expect nothing less from a team coached by a maggot that bailed on the falcons BEFORE the season was even over.
    Third, OSU won. No amount of whining or excuse making will change that.
    Fourth, oh you beat the SEC’s 15th best team…bla bla bla…..get over it it already, it’s time to get ready to watch Oregon beat Auburn
    Fifth, for those SEC fans out there calling the buckeyes cheaters and paid professionals etc…seriously….s e r i o u s l y…..what about Newton’s preacher father (Would God approve?) trying to prostitute his son off to the highest bidder? That is much much worse than a couple buckeyes selling merchandise they were given and OWN.
    In closing, I hate Oregon but all will be right in the world if they can pull off the upset over God, I mean the SEC, I mean whatever d&mn team they play on Monday.

  42. hrudey says: Jan 5, 2011 11:41 AM

    No surprise at all with this result — the Big Ten does alright in BCS bowls if they play teams with 2+ losses. They’re up to 9-5 in that case, while they’re 2-7 (and winless since the tOSU title win over Miami) against teams with 1 or zero losses.

  43. dkhhuey says: Jan 5, 2011 11:42 AM

    @gatorprof – sorry, I didn’t mean to type your name in my last post! You made a classy statement and I want to thank you for that! My comment was meant for gatorfan1.

    @blitz: You were spot on in your original post and it is refreshing to see so I thank you for that. Sadly, we have our Buckeye trolls as well and quite frankly, I have probably fallen into that category once in awhile myself! Speaking of which:

    @gatorfan1: stop fucking whining and making excuses. You are a poor loser! OSU dropped passes and fumbled the ball as well but stepped up and made the plays when it counted. God you’re pathetic.

  44. gotta keep my mouth shut says: Jan 5, 2011 11:58 AM

    hahaha please get pissed blitz lol you talked shit all week, of course I’m gonna call you out lol

    and I seem to have missed this post you are talking about where you gave osu credit for the win lol was that in this topic……um nope lol so please, yes call me a troll as you go on here everyday last week and talk about how ohio state was going to get killed and they would be embarrassed again

    I’m calling you out blitz, thank you for manning up and admiting that You WERE COMPLETELY WRONG!!!!!!!

    lol good luck greetin those folks at walmart :) good day my friend

  45. grizzlion74 says: Jan 5, 2011 11:58 AM

    CBFAN, my point is that a rule is a rule. I don’t think these kids were not “adequately informed” by OSU as is claimed. These kids know what they did was wrong and the media is fawning over them. What a coincidence that Pryor had a dealer car everytime he was pulled over by the Columbus PD! The NCAA displayed situational ethics in not susppending them for the bowl because of $$$$and their relationship with the bowls and TV. Can’t have 4 hours of prime time on ESPN and not have the stars playing. That would lose $$$$. So it’s ok for the NCAA, TV, the bowl, etc to make money unethically but not the players. Makes the NCAA penalties meaningless! Oh, they’ll be penalized next year? Right. They will reduced suspension to 3-4 games, all patsies before conference play and OSU will end up winning the BIG Ten and going to the Rose Bowl anyway and everybody lines their pockets again. Tressell is no better. He could have suspended them for the bowl but he was probably afraid he’d lose his job. He succumbed to the pressure of big $$$$$. Look at Ferentz at IOWA, he had the backbone and moral balance to suspend players for misconduct before their bowl. There are only a few guys left out there who have not prostituted themselves and stick to their ethical standards. Now maybe all the schools, NCAA, etc. will think about giving these kids a stipend, as Paterno has been advocating for 25 years, that is the equivalent of the income other college students can earn during part-time/or summer job. That would be fair but there will still be a-holes like Pryor, Posey, for whom that will not be enough. This year has shown the NCAA College football regualtions are pretty much capricious and arbitrary except when it comes to how much TV $$$ they might lose.

  46. jim375 says: Jan 5, 2011 12:01 PM

    Wow the trash talk of some of you SEC fans is funny. Have you forgot you still have a loosing record so far this year in bowl games too? SC, TN, GA, and AR have all lost. You better hope to pull off some more wins or your glorious wins over some pretty mediocre Big Ten teams will be all you have to cheer about. Beating Penn State, Michigan and Michigan State this year is nothing to be bragging about.

  47. gatorprof says: Jan 5, 2011 12:07 PM


    I wondered where that came from at first.

    Yeah, no excuses. A win is a win is a win. OSU won. Heyward played one heck of a game.

  48. gotta keep my mouth shut says: Jan 5, 2011 12:07 PM

    lol blitz I must apologize I just saw ur post, and thank you, but if you do notice I beat you to the punch on commenting lol

    my mommy let me stay up last night so I could rag on you jk jk lol

    I will say you make a great point that ur not saying arkansas wasn’t a talented SEC team, and I thank you for that

  49. edgy says: Jan 5, 2011 12:10 PM

    1-9 and suddenly, they’ve removed the “Property Of The SEC” tattoo – I don’t think so. :)

    Oh and 4-1 is STILL SEC dominance or does the math taught in Big 10 schools mean 1 Big 10 win = 11 SEC wins and it’s really 44-4 Big 10?

    I thought that something bad was going to happen to Arkansas when they didn’t run that blocked punt in and it did.

    More importantly, it was a good thing that they didn’t win because we’d have heard nothing but the wailing and gnashing of teeth over that safety (I honestly didn’t agree with the call and maybe they tried to get the guy a chance to get out of the grasp but the fact is that his momentum was stopped and they should have given it back to Ohio State on the 1/2 yard line). Of course, you’ll never convince the people of South Beach that there WAS a penalty back in 2003, right? :)

  50. gotta keep my mouth shut says: Jan 5, 2011 12:13 PM

    you bring up a good point edgy, do you think that if that was in the NFL that safety wouldn’t have been called or do you think this was just an unfortunate bad call by this group of referees?

  51. edgy says: Jan 5, 2011 12:26 PM

    I don’t think that it’s a safety in the Arena league, let alone the NFL, high school football or the CFL.

  52. cebz45 says: Jan 5, 2011 12:58 PM

    As a Buckeyes fan i will say that the SEC still owns us. I dont understand why SEC fans cheer so hard for the other teams in their conference. It’s funny, Vanderbilt fan will talk smack on the Big 10 even though they are completely irrelavant. I would like Big 10 teams to win bowl games but honestly i could care less if they do or not. All i know is my Bucks are 6-3 in BCS games and that is all that matters to me.

  53. dkhhuey says: Jan 5, 2011 12:58 PM

    I rarely ever comment on the officiating because they no doubt miss/blow calls for each side that for the most part even things out over the entire game.

    Having said that, I am a bit miffed that the Arkansas player who thoroughly went after Cam Heyward’s knee long after the play had moved on wasn’t called for a cheap shot personal foul. That was a very bush league cowardly thing to do!

  54. WingT says: Jan 5, 2011 1:05 PM

    Congrats Ohio St …great game…Pryor was the difference maker in that game – heck of a QB

    roll tide

  55. cebz45 says: Jan 5, 2011 1:19 PM

    dkhuey, you are right i forgot about that play. Heyward jumped to deflect the pass then the OL man dove at his knee after the ball was long gone. Dirty play, but their was alot of border line dirty plays going on bettween Heyward and Mallet and the whole Arkansas OL.

  56. lucky5927 says: Jan 5, 2011 2:07 PM

    Yeah that safety was a terrible call! If they wanted to adopt the “He broke free after being pushed back 5 yards” theory, then defenses will start doing that more often, let the guy go, and then tackle him again. The moment you are stopped and pushed back, forward progress is stopped. The moment 3 or more defenders go to make a tackle after progress was stopped, the play should have been blown to protect the safety of the runner. The refs really blew that call and it could have really cost the Buckeyes.

  57. dkhhuey says: Jan 5, 2011 2:09 PM

    @cebz45 – I’m sure the Buckeyes got in a few ‘gray area’ type shots during pile ups and scrums, but deliberately going after somebody’s knees in an attempt to take him out of the game are just plain wrong and should be dealt with immediately and harshly. I can only hope that the officials missed it opposed to saw it and ignored it. I will give them the benefit of the doubt.

  58. cowboys4life says: Jan 5, 2011 2:32 PM

    Arkansas WR’s should be ashamed of themselves

  59. edgy says: Jan 5, 2011 2:44 PM

    You’re right, cowboys4life, if they had held on to the balls that they had in their hands, the safety call wouldn’t have mattered.

  60. gatorfan1 says: Jan 5, 2011 3:09 PM

    If Arkansas WR’s had held on to half of the drops they would have had 550 – 600 yards total offense for the night!!!

  61. CBFAN says: Jan 5, 2011 3:15 PM

    IF I had a million dollars I would be a millionaire but alas, I am not. But if….

  62. lucky5927 says: Jan 5, 2011 3:21 PM

    Oh, were playing the “What If” game huh? I like it! What If Ryan Mallett was actually a good leader, instead of getting pissed off every time something bad happened. I see a lot of Jay Cutler in Mallett. Great physical skills, but questionable leadership skills. Every game I watched of him this season he was always at his teammates. Maybe if he was a good leader, he would have guided his team to the win. “What if” though….

  63. metalhead65 says: Jan 5, 2011 3:24 PM

    if cam newton and family can get paid and he is still able to play then there should not be a problem with buckeye players being able to play. thier mistake was thinking the stuff they sold was actualy theirs.imagine being given rings and jerseys then being told no it is not yours but the schools. meantime the school can sell the same jersy and you not get a penny. yea sounds fair to me. hope they all decide to go pro where they can make some money for themselves.but again that is so much worse than having your dad selling you to the highest bidder and you having no idea what he was doing right?or stealing laptops and selling them right?

  64. gatorfan1 says: Jan 5, 2011 3:51 PM


    You both make it seem as if Arkansas didn’t move the ball…they went up and down the field all night against a “vaunted” defense….

    And except for 1 pass play where you saw the receiver look to see if he was going to get hit…there was no special hit by the OSU safeties to make them feel intimidated…as a matter of fact there wasn’t an OSU DB anywhere near most of those drops…THAT’s on the Arkansas receivers… there was nothing special about the DB’s to cause those drops….and they still got 400 yards….

  65. lucky5927 says: Jan 5, 2011 4:03 PM

    First, let me say I am an SEC fan.. but my brother is a huge Buckeye fan so I do keep tabs on them. In part, I can be balanced on this discussion. With that being said, Yes, Arkansas did move the ball. The reason no safety came and laid the big hit was because they lost their big player at safety with a broken wrist early on. Still though, I wouldn’t call that defense vaunted. They are good… especially with Heyward being on his game. All I was saying was that I don’t think Mallett is a good leader, despite his impressive physical skills. He was tearing down his teammates instead of building them back up. He threw one pick, had another one dropped, So I feel that balances out some of those drops. Overall, Ohio State just played one player better than Arkansas. And that’s that as far as I am concerned.

  66. dkhhuey says: Jan 5, 2011 4:08 PM


    Arkansas WR weren’t focused on the game at hand and dropped easy passes where OSU receivers did not. Mallett threw an interception where Pryor did not. Mallett got harassed all night and sacked 4 times where Pryor did not. Mallett threw passes into the turf while under pressure from a 3 and 4 man rush where Pryor did not. Pryor ran for over 110 yards where Mallett did not. We executed a no huddle hurry up offense the entire first half that Arkansas was unprepared for, the Buckeyes absolutely shut down their offense in the first half. Arkansas’s punter was pretty much their best player with 4 or 5 kicks that pinned us back behind the 5 yard line. That was one of the big reasons they were able to assume control of the field position and stage a comeback. OSU won that game – Deal with it.

  67. idontevenknownemore says: Jan 5, 2011 4:20 PM

    One win in 9 tries does not mean they are no longer property of the SEC!!!

  68. idontevenknownemore says: Jan 5, 2011 4:21 PM

    One win in 10 tries does not mean they are no longer property of the SEC!!!

  69. lucky5927 says: Jan 5, 2011 4:21 PM

    actually, Pryor ran for 115 yards. 336 total yards. 😀

  70. drexelvol says: Jan 5, 2011 4:22 PM

    Neither team should have been in a BCS game, so to say the Big-10 beat the SEC at the “BCS level” is a farce. The #3 SEC team and #2 Big-10 team don’t belong on that stage.

    Arkansas was obviously not ready for that big of a game and OSU with all their losses in big games was used to it. OSU outplayed Arkansas last night, but I say with all certainly that Arkansas is the better team. A focused Arkansas team could have won that game by two touchdowns.

  71. snow52480 says: Jan 5, 2011 4:24 PM

    Only OSU fans could brag after being HANDED a win by MAYBE the 7’th best team in the SEC. Lol. Try as you might OSU Arkansas just refused to let you lose that game. And your head coach sold his integrity for a win over an SEC team. Keep it classy OSU…. Lol.
    And by the way. I have lived in Columbus OH my entire life and do not have any rooting interest in the SEC.
    I can assure people everywhere however that there is no question about it. OSU fans are the most uninformed, ignorant, and completely classless human beings in America.
    Their entire identity and sense of self-worth is dependant upon whether or not their Buckeyes win…… Lol.

  72. cebz45 says: Jan 5, 2011 4:28 PM

    6 wins out of 9 tries means BCS bowls are the property of the Bucks

  73. gamustangdude says: Jan 5, 2011 4:44 PM

    cebz45 says:
    Jan 5, 2011 4:28 PM
    6 wins out of 9 tries means BCS bowls are the property of the Bucks


    Since SEC owns the Bucks that would mean the BCS bowls are actually property of the SEC?

    NOW it all makes since….

  74. dkhhuey says: Jan 5, 2011 4:51 PM

    @snow – oh how sad your life must be to live amongst such lowlife scum that root for a team you can’t stand. To be thoroughly surrounded by the entire entity of THE Ohio State University, an entity that you totally despise. Oh how low and sad is your life that you feel compelled to come on a board and talk about Ohio State!!! Damn glad I don’t have such a pathetic existence as yourself!

  75. CBFAN says: Jan 5, 2011 5:05 PM

    drexelvol says: OSU outplayed Arkansas last night, but I say with all certainly that Arkansas is the better team. A focused Arkansas team could have won that game by two touchdowns.
    LOL – could have, would have, should have. If Arkansas was the better team they would have won.

  76. gamustangdude says: Jan 5, 2011 5:33 PM

    Ohio State is…

    0-2 Vs Alabama
    0-1 vs Auburn
    0-1 vs Georgia
    0-1 vs Tennessee
    0-2 vs South carolina
    0-1 vs Florida
    0-1 vs LSU,
    1-0 vs Arkansas

    1-9 = 1-9. Enjoy the victory from last night, however return to reality please.

  77. CBFAN says: Jan 5, 2011 7:05 PM

    Ohio State is…
    6-3 in BCS bowl games. More BCS wins than any other program in the nation.

  78. edgy says: Jan 5, 2011 8:53 PM

    So I’m cruising through the channels when I htit the UnderArmorHotDogs All-Star Game when they show this Ohio State recruit and they talk about how he got a tattoo of Ohio State and I’m thinking:

    1. Did he go to the same place as The Tattoo Five?

    2. Did he trade his autograph for it?

    3. Will he be suspended for the first 5 games next year?

  79. steelers6pack says: Jan 5, 2011 8:59 PM

    Ohio State over an SEC team in a BCS game! SEC fan can say we won Outback Bowl, thats more important! MALLET AND ARK LINE EXPOSED!

  80. bikerhal says: Jan 5, 2011 10:13 PM

    For all you guys who don’t understand the passion SEC fans have for their conference, let me remind you that it wasn’t that long ago an undefeated Auburn team wasn’t even allowed in the championship game. I am well into my years, and grew up in the era where the Big 10, Notre Dame and USC got all the attention. One year Notre Dame and Michigan played to a 10-10 tie, and even though an SEC team ranked right below them was undefeated (Alabama?) the biased northern media chose to confer “co champion” status on the mighty fighting Irish and the Wolverines. So pardon us for being so vocal, but we have had to suffer bias against us for quite a few generations. We are finally getting our due.

  81. gatorfan1 says: Jan 6, 2011 12:11 AM

    OK Bucknut fans I’ll go against my better judgement and play your silly little game of “what if”.

    Last year after the NC game all we heard from OSU fans was “what if” Colt McCoy hadn’t been knocked out of the game so early. Many many OSU fans posted that on this blog! Funny how you guys “now” want to say people are doing the same thing about Arkansas Receivers.

    But here’s the best one!! For 2 – 3 years Gator fans had to listen to the “what if” Ted Ginn hadn’t been hurt on the opening kickoff…Lol…

    Let’s see 87 yards of total offense!! 87 YARDS!!! FOR THE WHOLE GAME.

    Let me see here…add 1 x 5 + 6 divide by 0…THAT’S 22 yards per quarter…..PER QUARTER!!!!!!

    There has never been a bigger fan base anywhere in the world that uses “what if” more to justify their horrible showing in big games!!!

    YEAH…we’re 1 – 9, we’re 1 – 9….be proud OSU fans, be proud!!!

  82. jphillips1980 says: Jan 6, 2011 12:51 AM

    Spoken from an Arkansas fan…

    OSU. Be proud. You guys played an awesome game and outplayed us. There is no argument to that. That was one of the best games this season. It truly went down to the last minute and had every fan in there hanging on the edge of their seat.

    To all the people who comment on the Tat 5’s-I am glad they played. If they wouldn’t have and if we would have won, it would have been because the players were suspended. Those boys got OSU to the bowl so that’s the team that I wanted to see play. (This does not mean that I condone their actions or the NCAA ruling but OSU is not the only one who have questionable NCAA infractions playing in bowl games. What is good for the goose is good for the gander.)

    For all you people who say Arkansas is not a worthy team, grow up. The only other losses this season were to Auburn and Alabama and they were both ranked # 1 when we lost to them. I am very proud of our team!!!!!!

  83. gamustangdude says: Jan 6, 2011 7:20 AM

    Ohio state is…

    1-9 versus the SEC
    6-3 in BCS bowl games while still 1-9 vs the SEC

  84. gamustangdude says: Jan 6, 2011 7:44 AM


    I like how you fail to mention Ohio State’s entire bowl record. They played a ton of bowl games at 42 however have won only 20. keep celebrating mediocracy. If it wasn’t for the SEC maybe that record would be in you favor. (btw UGA has played in 46 bowl games won 26 lost 17 tied 3)

  85. CBFAN says: Jan 6, 2011 8:36 AM

    @jphillips1980 – I appreciate your post. Arkansas is a great team, otherwise they would not have finished second in the SEC. It was a great game, probably one of the best bowl games to watch. Most of my posts have been directed toward those SEC fans that always say OSU sucks and they were going to get throttled in this bowl game. Now that OSU won they are actually turning on their own by saying Arkansas was not very good. We both know differently

    @gatorfan – get used to living in the past and if I am not mostaken, you started the what if game, LOL.

    @ gamustangdude. Of all the SEC teams, the only team I have liked in the past was Georgia. Hoping they can move up the food chain a bit in the SEC.

  86. dkhhuey says: Jan 6, 2011 10:05 AM

    I watched the game again last night on ESPNU and have to say, it still got my heart racing even knowing the outcome. Knowing how the game flows does afford you the ability to sit down and really pay attention in a much finer detail. What amazes, all the rhetoric, comedy, and stupidity on these boards aside, that these are kids 18, 19, 20 years old playing on a huge stage with the weight of their state, universities, and fan base on their backs and against elite athletes at every position. It was astounding how many plays came down to mere inches from going the other way for both teams and for 60 minutes these kids laid everything the had to give on the line!!! Most excellent game gentlemen!!!

    Its great to be a Buckeye and my hats off to Arkansas!!! That was one helluva tussle that is worth watching a few more times!!!

  87. wfc32 says: Jan 6, 2011 10:16 AM

    I noticed Ohio State used flags to help them spell Ohio. I wonder if they can spell it without the flags. I heard about their coach’s tough actions against the five players. Last year Bobby P. sent home three hogs from the bowl game for minor infractions. Win or lose, he doesn’t make deals. Though their nasally voices grated on all of our nerves and though at times they mispronounced the name of our fair city I still hope they come back soon so we southerners can show those Yankees how to party.

  88. gotta keep my mouth shut says: Jan 6, 2011 11:29 AM

    wfc32 lol thank you for confirming everything I have been saying about southerners

    you are a funny man lol

  89. wfc32 says: Jan 6, 2011 11:50 AM

    gotta keep my mouth shut, no problem. Any time!

  90. gatorfan1 says: Jan 6, 2011 12:15 PM


    87 YARDS, 4 QUARTERS!!!???

  91. CBFAN says: Jan 6, 2011 12:28 PM

    Gatorfan – Just what I said, keep living in the past. Teabag is gone and your program is and will continue to be a fraction of what it once was.

  92. gatorfan1 says: Jan 6, 2011 12:41 PM


    Yes I guess winning 2 NC’s in the last 5 years is living in the past.

    I guess that means I won’t have to listen anymore about OSU’s win against Miami 8 years ago or the great ole’ times with Woody “punch a player” Hayes. There is absolutely NO program that lives in the past more than OSU.

    And I be willing to wager some money on who will win a NC sooner between Florida & OSU.

  93. wfc32 says: Jan 6, 2011 12:44 PM

    gatorfan1. I’m with you on that bet!

  94. edgy says: Jan 6, 2011 12:57 PM

    Sorry, gatorfan1, but I’d nominate Michigan and Notre Dame as two programs that live in the past more than Ohio State. :)

  95. CBFAN says: Jan 6, 2011 1:09 PM

    Funny but I have not seen any Buckeye fans talking about the Championship vs Miami. Typically it surfaces when an OSU hater brings it up as an example of a game where OSU got lucky and then buckeye fans are forced to defend it. I am sure you will be talking about your past NC’s for years to come.

  96. gatorfan1 says: Jan 6, 2011 1:16 PM


    Funny you said that, because as I was writing the post I almost included both of those programs as well. The funny thing is how all 3 programs are so closely situated from each other in that region. I think that says a lot, for what it’s worth.

  97. gatorfan1 says: Jan 6, 2011 1:26 PM


    YOU’RE so full of it and everyone on hear knows it!! The reason OSU fans always bring up Miami is a way to make themselves feel better about getting killed by SEC teams. It’s how they justify that the athletes and speed are the same up North as in the South. Keep lying to yourself, the bottom line is, OSU will NEVER beat an SEC for a NC, maybe a BCS game, which is great, but NEVER for a NC!!!

  98. gatorfan1 says: Jan 6, 2011 1:27 PM


    YOU’RE so full of it and everyone on HERE knows it!! The reason OSU fans always bring up Miami is a way to make themselves feel better about getting killed by SEC teams. It’s how they justify that the athletes and speed are the same up North as in the South. Keep lying to yourself, the bottom line is, OSU will NEVER beat an SEC for a NC, maybe a BCS game, which is great, but NEVER for a NC!!!

  99. CBFAN says: Jan 6, 2011 1:30 PM

    Gatorfan1 – I think you need therapy to get over your OSU envy.

  100. gatorfan1 says: Jan 6, 2011 2:02 PM


    Yes, I envy 1 – 9 teams against the best competition. The REAL question is why do you??? Lol…must suck to be an OSU fan.

    One of my best friends and the best man at my weddings is an OSU grad. We’ve known each other for years and used to talk trash about who would win in football & basketball. Well that question has been answered.

    Funny story. He and I met when living in Jacksonville Florida. I have had season tickets for years at Florida and invited him to a game. The game so happened to be Miami vs Florida during Vinny Testaverde’s senior season at Miami. (Yes Miami won). Before the game he was telling me THAT there was no way our fans are crazier at games than the OSU fans. He kept giving me all that garbage about OSU fans, same thing I here on this blog. Well we get to the game and everyone is standing in 90 degree heat screaming, the girls with basically nothing on, everyone liquored up and the stadium just going crazy!! After about 1 quarter, my friend looked at me and said “this is the craziest atmosphere he had ever seen in his life” and had never seen anything like it, you should have seen his face…it was total bewilderment, he just had never seen experienced anything as intense & FUN like it, and yes he went to all OSU games as a student. THIS was before Spurrier and Florida became a national power. Sadly, YOU just have no idea what college football is like in the South. It’s like nothing you have ever, or will ever experience, in your lifetime!!

    Finally, we kid around now about Florida’s dominance in football & basketball and he’s a good sport, however, you can see the anguish in his face, and he dies a thousand deaths evertime we kid about it. So I KNOW what YOU experience everytime someone brings it up!!!

  101. CBFAN says: Jan 6, 2011 2:17 PM

    I just might have to check that out sometime if you have girls with basically nothing on :) Hey, I love college football and mostly because of the passion fans have for their teams and the fact that the players seem to be more passionate than in the NFL. I bet everyone on this board could describe a similar feel in their home stadiums, that is what makes college football great. Florida has had a great run the past several years, they really have, and they blasted us in the 06 championship. All teams ebb and flow and few can provide consistency over the long term.

  102. gatorfan1 says: Jan 6, 2011 2:54 PM


    Boy, were those the days, and lots of memories with many not being football related, wink, wink!!! Nothing better than being on a college campus AND single in your twenties & early thirties during big time events like college football!!!

    And you’re absolutely right, all fans of college football have stories like this.

  103. Deb says: Jan 6, 2011 7:20 PM

    Oh pooh … I missed the party!

    Congrats to Ohio State. That’s one for my cousin (by marriage) who passed suddenly a few weeks ago and was a diehard Ohio State fan. This would have thrilled him.

    So so sorry tryagainplease. Thought they were going to pull off the miracle win in the end. Too many dropped passes.

    Yes, edge, I think you can definitely count Michigan among the delusional. Read some poor fellow the other day referring to them as the winningest program in football. Just didn’t have the heart to comment.

    Yes, Buckeyes, you earned it. Every dog has its day 😉

  104. CBFAN says: Jan 6, 2011 10:32 PM

    Deb: As much as I hate Michigan, the guy was probably right if he is talking about all time stats. Take a look at this website (Copy and Paste the address into your browser), a good resource for historical college football stats. You can sort on many factors for the overall ratings and if you sort on Win percentage, Michigan is number 1

  105. Deb says: Jan 7, 2011 1:02 PM

    @CBFAN …

    I figured the guy was right, but as edge said, he’s living far in the past :)

    But thanks for the resource!

  106. tryagainplease says: Jan 9, 2011 12:44 AM

    gatorfan1 says: If Arkansas WR’s had held on to half of the drops they would have had 550 – 600 yards total offense for the night!!!

    our wr were one of our greatest strengths all season and our special teams was our main weakness. who were we the other night?

    and thanks deb for the kind words.

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