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Even with BCS title, Newton’s legacy will still be in question

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Auburn, not just Cam Newton, was simply too much for Oregon. They were too big. Too physical. The Tigers, who defeated the Ducks 22-19 on a last-second field goal, were able to slow college football’s fastest team to a crawl.

Chip Kelly‘s unparalleled focus and “win the day” attitude helped Oregon execute their game plan better than anyone else in the country throughout the regular season. Tonight, though, they couldn’t seem to get through an offensive series mistake free.

Perhaps Kelly’s scheme, so dependent on timing, suffered the most with the long layoff.

And, in the end, Newton got the only missing piece from his already impressive (and likely) one-and-done career at Auburn: a BCS National Championship. It was the first for the Tigers since 1957.

But no matter how impressive Newton’s season was — and, believe us, it was  — or how many highlight reels he made, or what he meant to the Auburn community, there will always be one looming question.

Was Newton eligible?

It’s a fair question; we’re not trying to rain on anyone’s parade here. From the initial reports in November, to the moments before kickoff, the investigation was, and still is, a legitimate probe. When you factor in the NCAA’s decision to make Newton ineligible, only to reverse the decision 24 hours later, the whole situation became a folly.

But, even if Newton didn’t know that his father was soliciting money in a pay-to-play plan — a clear infraction on NCAA rules — the bylaw remains. Fair or not.

Based on that, Newton shouldn’t have been eligible. Period.

Not that it matters now. Auburn got their championship. Whether or not it stands the test of time remains to be seen. By that point, though, Newton will be gone, probably with a career in the NFL. Amongst the Auburn faithful, he’ll be remembered for his spectacular runs and helping in Auburn’s come-from-behind victory over Alabama. And let’s not be mistaken: Newton deserves all of those praises.

But there will always be uncertainty surrounding Newton and Auburn and it will leave a tainted legacy for those wanting to know what really happened.

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102 Responses to “Even with BCS title, Newton’s legacy will still be in question”
  1. rjsjr says: Jan 11, 2011 1:21 AM

    Not trying to rain on anyone’s parade, but we are totally going to rain on your parade.

  2. phelbin says: Jan 11, 2011 1:25 AM

    Well…the uncertainty will remain until the close of the investigation and Auburn is forced to vacate their wins this season. I give it two years. Well done, boosters! You bought a BCS title…for now.

  3. 1990tiger says: Jan 11, 2011 1:34 AM

    BK-
    Stick to blogging. Leave the rules interpretations to professionals. You obviously cannot grasp the intricacies and intent of the NCAA rules.

    Don’t be a hater.

  4. jonanthans says: Jan 11, 2011 1:36 AM

    best $200k ever spent….

  5. 1990tiger says: Jan 11, 2011 1:37 AM

    phelbin says:
    Well…the uncertainty will remain until the close of the investigation and Auburn is forced to vacate their wins this season. I give it two years. Well done, boosters! You bought a BCS title…for now.
    _________________

    waaaa waaa……..
    I can hear your whining from my house. We didn’t buy it, we won it.

    War Eagle!

  6. mean13 says: Jan 11, 2011 1:37 AM

    5 straight national championship wins for the SEC. Let’s here the Big Ten whiners’ excuses.

  7. cosanostra71 says: Jan 11, 2011 2:11 AM

    mean13 says:
    Jan 11, 2011 1:37 AM
    5 straight national championship wins for the SEC. Let’s here the Big Ten whiners’ excuses.

    I’m not a fan of a Big 10 team, but I’m curious. Do you root for the whole conference, or a specific team? Because rooting for a conference seems silly to me.

  8. hueylewis says: Jan 11, 2011 3:09 AM

    Espn will end up making one of those 30-30 movies about the death of the Auburn football program.

    Every other SEC coach runs a clean program, except for Chizik.

    I give Saban alot of credit tonight. He was professional and classy on Espn. Even though he wanted to trash the way this whole thing was handled, he didn’t.

  9. waynefontes says: Jan 11, 2011 5:31 AM

    National championship
    SEC championship

    Undefeated season

    Miracle comeback over Alabama

    Over 20 TDs passing, over 20 TDs running

    Heisman Trophy

    I think Cam Newton will sleep well at night.

  10. brownstown2 says: Jan 11, 2011 7:52 AM

    I bet mean is a Vol or UMiss fan. For the 106th time, who roots for conferences? Tiger fans should yap. The rest of the SEC should not.

  11. rlsmit says: Jan 11, 2011 7:54 AM

    No matter what the outcome will be the kid will still be labeled. If he’s guilty people will scream “I told you so.” If he’s innocent them it’s a cover up. The guy can’t win. No wonder why we are the most hated country in the world, everyone trying to point the finger instead of giving credit. Keep in mind these are the same bloggers who critized Luck for GOING BACK TO SCHOOL. Some people shouldn’t be allowed to reproduce.

  12. clusterpuck says: Jan 11, 2011 7:56 AM

    Please…..as if there isnt stuff like this going on in every major program.

    You think paying for a player is something new that Auburn just came up with?

    College football is more corrupt then the mafia. That’s just the way it is.

  13. rlsmit says: Jan 11, 2011 8:03 AM

    @brownstone
    Shut the hellup. My allegiance is to UGA. Then the conference ( except for Florida). SEC winning makes all of us look good. Because just like UCF and Colorodo sill tell you, they didn’t just beat Georgia they beat a SEC team. Plus Oregon beating the Vols this year and the way they did it is the main reason anyone gave them a chance over Auburn. All night you heard things like “SEC defenses,” and “SEC speed,” more so then you did Auburn defense / speed. Give it up, cry how lame we are for rotting for our conference. And we’ll continue to laugh at the rest of college football.

  14. evanhartford says: Jan 11, 2011 8:14 AM

    Cam Newton is definitely the greatest ineligble college football player of all time.

    Here’s to USC 2.0!

  15. soflatrojan says: Jan 11, 2011 8:23 AM

    Chip Kelly = Bob Stoops

  16. brownstown2 says: Jan 11, 2011 8:39 AM

    Rlsmit,

    See, you just proved my point. The biggest conference fans are the clingers from mediocre programs.

    UGA – 0 championships

    Congrats to Auburn. No congrats to the other 11 fan bases.

  17. gatorprof says: Jan 11, 2011 8:39 AM

    Re:”Based on that, Newton shouldn’t have been eligible. Period.”

    Uhm, the NCAA, you know the people in charge of making and enforcing the rules…the people who saw all of the evidence…ruled him eligible.

    waynefontes stated it best, but Ben likely can’t comprehend that.

    On the field, his legacy stands, period, much like Reggie Bush. One NCAA investigation has already concluded. I don’t know if there will be another one.

    Congrats to Auburn! It is great to see a faithful, maniacal fanbase be rewarded.

    I do feel badly for Oregon as they played their hearts out. Their offensive and defensive schemes were superior to Auburn’s, but that could not make up for the gap in athleticism, which is the ONLY reason that Auburn won.

    This game could have been lopsided if not for several drops and over throws to wide open receivers.

  18. florida727 says: Jan 11, 2011 8:46 AM

    Cam Newton was ineligible? Who the heck was wearing his jersey last night? Whoever it was, THAT guy was GOOD!

    Keep hating the SEC people. We’ll keep laughing at you while we pile up even more National Championships in the future. Eventually the streak will end. Then the posts will be, “see… told you they weren’t that good”. FIVE national titles in a row. Let me know when your conference wins ONE.

    Go Gators!

  19. burntorangehorn says: Jan 11, 2011 8:50 AM

    mean13 says:
    Jan 11, 2011 1:37 AM
    5 straight national championship wins for the SEC. Let’s here the Big Ten whiners’ excuses.
    ==================================
    This says all one needs to know about the circle-jerk.

  20. florida727 says: Jan 11, 2011 8:51 AM

    rlsmit – I guess if my team got beat by Florida 18 of the last 21 times, I wouldn’t like them either.

    Oh wait… my team IS Florida.

    Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!

  21. CBFAN says: Jan 11, 2011 8:56 AM

    Good game by both teams, could have went either way.

    @Mean13 – Hate to break this to you but Auburn played a team from the PAC-10 not the Big-10. Understand this is probably difficult for you to keep track of.

  22. lucky5927 says: Jan 11, 2011 9:03 AM

    Seriously, we can’t go one day with just celebrating the Auburn victory and National Championship. Between the haters and fans of the pretenders, its just sad! And for the record, the NCAA may eventually take away the wins (Which would require currently unfounded proof), but they can’t take away the BCS National Championship as that does not fall under the jurisdiction of the NCAA. Nor can they take away the memories of watching that game last night. Auburn won that national title last night against a tough Oregon squad and is just the latest team to triumph on the carousel of consecutive SEC Championships. I guess the question remains… which SEC team will win it next year?

  23. gamustangdude says: Jan 11, 2011 9:03 AM

    @brownstone

    2x SEC Championships
    1x National Championship in 1980 remember Walker?
    (and My favorite) 21-13 1993 Citrus Bowl UGA beats Ohio State.

    Enjoy being 1-9 versus us poor southern folks

    @florida727

    47/46-40-2 UGA.

  24. tryagainplease says: Jan 11, 2011 9:09 AM

    phelbin says:Well…the uncertainty will remain until the close of the investigation and Auburn is forced to vacate their wins this season. I give it two years. Well done, boosters! You bought a BCS title…for now.

    i don’t even give it 2 years. in fact, that should be the poll question- how long til auby gets the title taken away?

  25. WingT says: Jan 11, 2011 9:44 AM

    Damn, I’m glad this season is over. Now we can start smack talking for 2011.

    roll tide

  26. 1990tiger says: Jan 11, 2011 9:44 AM

    tryagainplease says: Jan 11, 2011 9:09 AM

    i don’t even give it 2 years. in fact, that should be the poll question- how long til auby gets the title taken away?
    _______________________
    It isn’t going to happen so don’t get your hopes up. don’t be a hater. Just accept the fact that Auburn won the SEC and National Championship (boy, I love hearing that….) and move on to something else.

  27. 1990tiger says: Jan 11, 2011 9:47 AM

    hueylewis says: Jan 11, 2011 3:09 AM

    Every other SEC coach runs a clean program, except for Chizik.
    _______________________
    You really show your ignorance with that statement. Let me guess (and borrow a line from Dan Mullen), you support that “school up north”?

  28. quentincosta says: Jan 11, 2011 9:49 AM

    soflatrojan says: Jan 11, 2011 8:23 AM

    Chip Kelly = Bob Stoops

    ——————-

    Really? When did Kelly win his National Championship?

  29. WingT says: Jan 11, 2011 10:13 AM

    congrats 1990tiger – Auburn made the plays all year long. It sure is sweet to have your team win the NC isn’t it?

    roll tide

  30. dmarado says: Jan 11, 2011 10:23 AM

    LOL @ your son winning the BCS championship game and you having to watch it on TV miles away from the stadium. Yeah, sounds legit. :)

  31. 1990tiger says: Jan 11, 2011 10:24 AM

    WingT says: Jan 11, 2011 10:13 AM

    congrats 1990tiger – Auburn made the plays all year long. It sure is sweet to have your team win the NC isn’t it?
    _______________________
    Yes, it is. Believe it or not, I pulled for UA in last year’s NC. I would rather an SEC team win the NC over any other conference team. Those outside of the SEC just can’t/don’t understand that.

    Let’s not forget that not only do the Heisman and the National Championship remain in the SEC for another year, they stay in the State of Alabama. How many other states have had back-to-back Heisman trophy winners and National Champions?

  32. stevem7 says: Jan 11, 2011 10:25 AM

    What really happened is Cam Newton and the Auburn team won a National Championship and no amount of garbage by a writer trying to write sleaze is going to change any of that. Nobody installed the writer as judge, jury, and exposer of his perceived truths. The game is over, the season is over, and justice has prevailed. LUMP IT you ridiculous fool of a sportswriter.

  33. 1990tiger says: Jan 11, 2011 10:28 AM

    dmarado says: Jan 11, 2011 10:23 AM

    LOL @ your son winning the BCS championship game and you having to watch it on TV miles away from the stadium. Yeah, sounds legit. :)
    ____________________
    He didn’t HAVE to, he CHOSE to. He didn’t want to be a distraction during his son’s moment. Despite what Cam Newton’s father may have done, I have to give him some credit for staying away from the SEC Championship and the NC.

  34. tryagainplease says: Jan 11, 2011 10:30 AM

    1990tiger – i’m really not a hater, normally i will root for the sec team but i couldn’t sell my soul and root for the auburn team this year with all the shadiness surrounding them. congrats to you and the rest of the auburn fans tho.

  35. soflatrojan says: Jan 11, 2011 10:41 AM

    quentincosta,

    Even a blind squirrel finds a nut.

  36. c. shaw says: Jan 11, 2011 10:43 AM

    with Newton and Fairly gone in the draft (among others), Auburn will probably slip to middle of the pack next year. the fact that Oregon did what they did with a bunch of sophomores and juniors says a lot. Oregon will have at least one more strong season.

  37. 1990tiger says: Jan 11, 2011 11:07 AM

    c. shaw says:

    Auburn will probably slip to middle of the pack next year.
    _______________________
    I suppose that all depends on how recruiting goes for the Tigers this year.

  38. edgy says: Jan 11, 2011 11:10 AM

    1990tiger says:

    BK-

    ****************************

    Don’t be a homer. The fact is that he does have it right AND the investigation is still ongoing. The NCAA says that his eligibility was restored due to the previously unusable excuse of “I didn’t know what my father was doing”, which didn’t help previous violators.

    My guess is that since Newton got Auburn this far, the evidence against him and his father has been shredded and burned so that money trail has been cut off but you never know. The folks at USC thought they were safe but eventually, Reggie’s unwillingness to keep his promise caught up with him.

  39. 1990tiger says: Jan 11, 2011 11:11 AM

    tryagainplease says:
    i couldn’t sell my soul and root for the auburn team this year with all the shadiness surrounding them.
    _______________________
    That’s what I don’t understand….what shadiness are you talking about? The Newton “mess” involved MSU and occurred prior to Cam attending Auburn. There haven’t been any allegations of impropriety involving AU and Cam Newton.

  40. digitalbeachbum says: Jan 11, 2011 11:19 AM

    Like it or not, Cam Newton was ineligible, even if he didn’t know what was going on with his father. Yet, I can’t see a smart person like him not being involved with every thing that was going on around him. In interviews with both his father and Cam before all this happened, you see a relationship that is very close. They did talk about it and Cam did know. They are both liars and haven’t one single ounce of honesty. They stink of greed. Every one who says differently is being ignorant. As for the NCAA, this only proves that they are a worthless organization which aren’t worth piss. The decision to backtrack was done behind close doors, with the exchange of money and promises.

  41. tideam says: Jan 11, 2011 11:34 AM

    None of ya’ll get it, college football isn’t about what you cynical men think about whose guilty or innocent, or whose conference is better than the other’s. At the end of the day it makes no difference who you root for. The game is about two teams pouring their blood and sweat on the field to bring home the glory of victory for themselves and for THEIR SCHOOL. Yes, Newton may be guilty, he may not, he is a great player none the less and the money isn’t what made him that way. His own devotion to practice and heart did it, and that is what deserves some credit. Yes, the SEC is currently the best conference just read the stats, but this is subject to change. So don’t bicker over whose better now, that’s obvious. Instead, enjoy being on top because its flimsy. Auburn could have lost that game several times.
    As for me, I’m going to sit back and pray the tide rolls. Aside from that I just want to watch good football.

  42. tryagainplease says: Jan 11, 2011 11:45 AM

    1990tiger – i do believe cam is a completely vapid fool but i will never believe he didn’t know about his father trying to sell him. he should not have been playing at the college level this year at all. also, i wouldn’t be surprised in the slightest if half of auburns team aren’t paid employees. it’s simply a matter of time before it’s all taken away. does that answer why i couldn’t root for them?

  43. gotta keep my mouth shut says: Jan 11, 2011 11:52 AM

    lol man auburn wins the NC and all these fans come out of the woodwork lol

    and these idiots ripping ben for pointing out what a majority of americans are thinking, I mean if you think this is the end of the cam newton and auburn pay for play story then you are delusional

  44. nigedol says: Jan 11, 2011 12:01 PM

    “Every other SEC coach runs a clean program, except for Chizik”? Um, might I remind you that Kentucky basketball is coached by John Calipari?

  45. rgarbonzo says: Jan 11, 2011 12:04 PM

    I just figured out why there are conference fans, because by combing championships and trophy winners they actually can start to stack up against the leader(s) in said categories!

  46. gamustangdude says: Jan 11, 2011 12:04 PM

    Who cares? You think even if Cam is found guilty that doesn’t mean that Auburn is still not the best football team? Is Cam Newton still not the best college football player this year?

    Even if he is found guilty, (which will NEVER happen, and I do mean Never. So all you haters salivating at the chance to scream “I told you so.” Hold your breath on that one) it doesn’t negate the above.

    Auburn was the best team with the best player. Who cares if he got paid to play, the fact still remains.

  47. rgarbonzo says: Jan 11, 2011 12:07 PM

    1990tiger – I believe Navy (State of Maryland) had back to back trophy winners and NC’s in 1942-43, grats on winning a tough game.

  48. rgarbonzo says: Jan 11, 2011 12:11 PM

    sorry thae was Army in 1944-45

  49. bamagirl1733 says: Jan 11, 2011 12:19 PM

    First, Newton didn’t win this alone.. don’t for a minute forget that is was an amazing SEC defense that stopped that unstoppable high paced offense that we’ve heard so much about. Second, I would think, in an article that is so pointedly concerned with “the rules” that somewhere should be a mention of the Ohio State team that got to postpone five players suspension just so they could play in the bowl game. Five players that personally gained from their transgressions… whereas no one, anywhere, has ever accused Newton himself of pocketing a single dime. Seems a bit of sour grapes.. Third, he was ruled eligible.. So until it becomes a public opinion poll if someone gets to play or not, we should not pretend that we get to make that choice. Fourth, let’s for a minute remember what college football is about.. good games.. hard hitting defense… agile plays… the fans should enjoy that talent got to play talent. Do you really want a locked win against a team you know you can beat.. or a hard fought match that really shows what makes college football so much fun to watch?

  50. tideam says: Jan 11, 2011 12:21 PM

    rgarbonzo,

    You do realize that Alabama holds the most NC titles, they don’t need anyone to help stack that up.

  51. lda88 says: Jan 11, 2011 12:31 PM

    Hey Ben… why don’t you just stick to the mortgage business where you are obviously learning all about corruption yourself.

  52. nashmatt says: Jan 11, 2011 12:39 PM

    First, Auburn declared Cam ineligible. The NCAA doesn’t do that. So AUBURN made the first move when there was proof that rules had been broken at MS. State.
    Second, this situation was not one the rules covered. The infraction took place at another university without the knowledge of the student being recruited.
    Third, Reggie’s infractions were more numerous and blatant. He had his picture placed in a mag with a car given to him while at USC.
    Fourth, since you make a prediction about the investigation I will. It is as good as over.
    Fifth, if you don’t want to rain on the parade then shut up and stop writing articles to just try to get noticed. Try basing your speculations on fact rather than innuendo and inference.

  53. tryagainplease says: Jan 11, 2011 12:53 PM

    gamustangdude says:
    Who cares? Me

    You think even if Cam is found guilty that doesn’t mean that Auburn is still not the best football team? Yes they would not be the best team, because their best player who got them to the championship would be ineligible thus making the rest of the TEAM stand on it’s own and we all know that Auby would be .500 or less without Cam this year.

    Is Cam Newton still not the best college football player this year? Yes for now and no when it’s found out he got paid and it will happen. Never say never.

  54. badbobsblog says: Jan 11, 2011 1:06 PM

    Its’ too bad that douchebag Kercheval doesn’t know the NCAA rules. Eligibility is linked to the institution, not the student-athlete.

    Furthermore, Auburn University, not the NCAA, declared Cam Newton ineligible. The NCAA re-instated his eligibilty.

    Get your facts straight Kercheval. And suck on my big crystal ball!!!

    War Damn Eagle!!!

  55. gamustangdude says: Jan 11, 2011 1:14 PM

    @tryaginplease

    No? I don’t care if he got paid, still doesn’t affect what he did on the field. Just like Reggie Bush, he was the best player that year, Cam is the best player this year.

    I’m saying never, you cross your fingers and hold on tightly to that lucky charm of yours praying that you’ll be proven right. When all along it’s just simple envy.

  56. garyfromil says: Jan 11, 2011 1:51 PM

    Some facts: Nothing implicated Auburn in this at all. Cam’s dad is a money-grubbing jerk, but there is no evidence Auburn knew anything. We will likely never know what Cam knew. As others have said,

    The NCAA said he was eligible, nuff said.

    Chizek has a reputation for running a clean program.

    Despite this silly article, there is nothing tainted about Auburn’s title. They won fair and square.

    I am a fan of Auburn ( my sister is an alum). I am a fan of SEC football in general. It is more fun and exciting to watch than the other conferences, particularly the Big 10.

    Ohio State has won the Big 10 every year since Moses was in diapers. The last 5 SEC conference representatives were : LSU, Florida ( twice), Alabama, and Auburn. It is wide open every year. Usually Georgia and Tennessee are right there. It looks like Arkansas will be in the mix in 2011. Maybe South Carolina also. No other conference has the excitement and talent of the SEC.

    Don’t tell me about Georgia, Kentucky, and Tennessee losing their bowl games. I don’t think 6-6 teams belong in bowls, and all it says is they are average teams that should have stayed home.

  57. 1historian says: Jan 11, 2011 2:03 PM

    2 words:

    graduation rate

  58. tominma says: Jan 11, 2011 2:16 PM

    Dear Ben,
    It’s been a long time since Ive seen such a sports story fillied with so much bovine excrement! NO it is NOT a fair question!!! Yes it IS raining on Auburn’s parade.

    Controvery “sells papers” or in this case, attracts readers. Do you get paid by the “hit” or “comment???

    You sound so very much like so many media wackos we’ve come to know and love! My grandma told me if I dont have anything good to say about somebody, keep my mouth shut!!! I suggest you take her advice!

  59. tominma says: Jan 11, 2011 2:17 PM

    PS……… Maybe I shouldnt have been so hard on you!! Afterall, you wrote it WAY past your bedtime!

  60. dkhhuey says: Jan 11, 2011 2:22 PM

    First off – nice game and congrats to Auburn. There is something to be said about having 30 days to prepare for an offense. Both team’s defense showed it last night.

    NCAA – you had the chance to say yes/no to Cam’s eligibility and you made your choice. You earned all of the cash you could by letting him play all year. To even remotely come back after the fact and say he wasn’t would be horrendous and disgustingly wrong!

    I do have a question thought: Why the F@#$ do coaches attempt to run it up the middle every single play once inside the 5. I cannot for the life of me figure out what Kelly was thinking. His offensive line rarely was able to block Auburn’s defensive line yet he calls 4 straight slow to develop run plays right up the middle. WOW that was some ignorant play calling.

    I miss college football already. Go Buckeyes!!!

  61. bakstmart says: Jan 11, 2011 2:24 PM

    Auburn was too much for Oregon? Were you watching the same game as everybody else? The point difference at the end was two. I guess your article could have had more credence if it were considerably wider, but the game I saw could have gone either way at several junctures last night. No “special” speed or size advantage played into it. Seemed pretty well matched to me. Kudos to the two best teams in the nation.

  62. CBFAN says: Jan 11, 2011 2:32 PM

    balstmart, I agree with you. It was a great game that could have easily gone the other way. I am amused at some of the comments that refer to Auburn’s defensive dominance. They played great defense, yes, but so did Oregon. Winning on a last minute field goal does not constitute dominance.

  63. tide4life says: Jan 11, 2011 2:41 PM

    Winning in, literally, the last second, from a tie, with a field goal, translates into:

    “Auburn, not just Cam Newton, was simply too much for Oregon. They were too big. Too physical.”

    What?

  64. nwtigerfan says: Jan 11, 2011 2:49 PM

    BK’s article is rife with “el toro pupu”. He, and many of the commentors here are sore losers that can’t get over the fact that the best team in the nation is indeed the national champion. I live in the northwest but I like the intensity, loyalty, and emotional commitment of the teams and fan base of the SEC. I say to all the naysayers, get over it, stop slamming Cam newton, and accept the fact that the AU Tigers are champions. My congrats to the team, coaching staff and the school. WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR EAGLE!!!

  65. soflatrojan says: Jan 11, 2011 3:23 PM

    Someone had alot of free time.

  66. gatorprof says: Jan 11, 2011 3:51 PM

    BTW, Oregon would be a 2-3 loss team in the SEC west.

    Bama would roll them hard. Oregon can’t stop the run against a big physical OL with physical RBs…Bama would feast. Either LSU or Ark would likely knock them off as well.

    Oregon would, however, win the SEC east with So. Car. being the only real threat.

    Simply put, they just don’t have the speed/size to hang…great team, but you can’t coach physical prowess.

  67. rgarbonzo says: Jan 11, 2011 4:00 PM

    @tideam

    Bama has the most only by alabama’s count. Every other organization has them ranked 3 at most in the most NC’s won

  68. auburn78 says: Jan 11, 2011 4:23 PM

    Hey. It was a great game and either team could have pulled it out. Why do you na-sayers always have to try and spoil someone else’s good time. Just enjoy the game. Regardless of whom you were cheering.
    If you are unhappy with the NCAA, which I am, then work to get it changed. Don’t just whine when you think your team got shafted because you don’t think something was done correctly by the NCAA.
    Great game. Period. No matter who won.
    War Eage!

  69. tokietoo says: Jan 11, 2011 4:26 PM

    I was sick when they ruled Cam could play, I was sick when they gave him the Heisman Trophy, I was sick when he won last night, I will be sick when the make him send the Heisman Trophy back ala Bush. NCAA needs to wake up and stop tainting the college system and start doing right. You make the rules and can’t even follow your own rule how sick. The almighty Dollar strikes again LONG LIVE THE GREED

  70. gotta keep my mouth shut says: Jan 11, 2011 5:21 PM

    can someone tell me what the hell a “war eagle” is? aren’t they the auburn tigers? OSU, USC, Texas, Florida, Oklahoma, Michigan….heck even TCU has one mascot lol

    …..well they did tp and destroy their own campus when they won, i mean even in Columbus we would destroy other peoples property, not our own! haha that must explain the need for two mascots

  71. 1990tiger says: Jan 11, 2011 5:22 PM

    tokietoo says:

    I was sick when they ruled Cam could play, I was sick when they gave him the Heisman Trophy, I was sick when he won last night, I will be sick when the make him send the Heisman Trophy back ala Bush.
    _________________
    You sound pretty sickly but I’m glad that will end soon for you. The Heisman will remain with Newton and Auburn. Hope you feel better.

  72. liaoa says: Jan 11, 2011 5:26 PM

    I think they should just do away with the national championship game and hand the title to whoever whens the SEC!!!
    Until College Football goes to actual Playoffs like every other sport, you can never actually determine a definite Champion!!!

  73. 1990tiger says: Jan 11, 2011 5:34 PM

    gotta keep my mouth shut says:

    can someone tell me what the hell a “war eagle” is? aren’t they the auburn tigers? OSU, USC, Texas, Florida, Oklahoma, Michigan….heck even TCU has one mascot lol
    __________________
    If you are too stupid to use Google or Wikipedia to find out about Auburn’s mascot (the “Tigers”) and their battle cry (“War Eagle”) you wouldn’t understand it if I explained it to you….even if I typed slowly.

    I can understand how a guy whose team’s mascot is a “man” nut with a face, body, arms and legs that wears a baseball cap and prances around in ill-fitting sweatpants wouldn’t be able to comprehend Auburn tradition.

  74. edgy says: Jan 11, 2011 5:39 PM

    In keeping with what has happened this bowl season, the ratings for the game were the highest for a non-NFL CABLE telecast; HOWEVER, they were also down from last year (16.1 vs 17.2).

  75. gotta keep my mouth shut says: Jan 11, 2011 5:40 PM

    lol glad to see you on here for the first time ever 1990tiger, welcome to the website……..oh wait you mean to say that you bandwagoned up and are on here now just supporting auburn?

    ohhhhhh i understand now lol

    hey lemme ask were you one of the children throwing toilet paper on the trees at auburn universty?! I mean I know that auburn smells, but I didnt know that was the reason………..but in all seriousness congratulations

    Ohio State’s mascot is the buckeyes and their new cheer will be “Run Buffalo” (hey look it works like auburns does)

  76. tryagainplease says: Jan 11, 2011 6:30 PM

    all the complaints about this post make me laugh- go anywhere on the web that covers sports (that’s not purely an auburn site) and you’ll likely be seeing one very similar mentioning the hinky-ness of auburn’s championship.

  77. Deb says: Jan 11, 2011 6:35 PM

    @Ben …

    Have been driving in thick traffic for five hours, but coming home to your wonderful article just makes me … well … my goodness, Ben, I think I love you :)

    Newton’s athletic skill is indisputable. But …

    1. We know his father insisted MSU pay six figures for Cam’s services despite having a prior relationship with the school. It’s ridiculous to assume he suddenly switched to Auburn after one meeting without requiring any compensation.

    2. Other players have been ruled ineligible in similar circumstances when neither they nor their family members were found to be directly involved.

    Unfortunately, there’s nothing fair about any of this. It’s not fair to the schools that have been penalized for less to watch another get off scot-free. It’s not fair to the Auburn faithful who genuinely believe no rules were broken to have their parade disrupted. It’s not fair to the teams that played by the rules to be bested by a team that didn’t. And it’s certainly not fair that when or if the NCAA acts it will be long after the offending parties are gone.

    Something has to be done about the corruption of NCAA football.

  78. raysfan1 says: Jan 11, 2011 7:02 PM

    Love it when somebody tries to denigrate a HC for only winning 1 national championship, like a frequent poster above did. Attempting to insult Chip Kelly by comparing him to Bob Stoops is pretty funny. First less than 1% of Div 1 HC ever win a national championship. One cannot get through a 12-game BCS schedule, a conference championship, and then the bowl game merely by being lucky. What the poster really said to Coach Kelly with “Chip Kelly = Bob Stoops” is “you will yearly do a great job of getting top recruits, win several conference championships, nearly annually play on New year’s or later, and at some point manage to win the biggest prize of all.” To this insult, Chip Kelly can only say “thank you.”

    I actually agree with “Chip Kelly = Bob Stoops.” Both are outstanding coaches that I’d be very happy to have as the next coach at my school, the SEC’s USC, whenever Spurrier decides to hang up his whistle.

  79. 1990tiger says: Jan 11, 2011 8:05 PM

    gotta keep my mouth shut says:

    lol glad to see you on here for the first time ever 1990tiger, welcome to the website……..oh wait you mean to say that you bandwagoned up and are on here now just supporting auburn?
    _________________
    Not my first day here. Sorry you missed some of my posts last year. You would have found them very enlightening.

  80. 1990tiger says: Jan 11, 2011 8:14 PM

    Deb says:
    It’s ridiculous to assume he suddenly switched to Auburn after one meeting without requiring any compensation.

    Unfortunately, there’s nothing fair about any of this. It’s not fair to the schools that have been penalized for less to watch another get off scot-free. It’s not fair to the Auburn faithful who genuinely believe no rules were broken to have their parade disrupted. It’s not fair to the teams that played by the rules to be bested by a team that didn’t.
    _________________________
    Haven’t we gone through this before?? There have not been any allegations made against Auburn and any allegations involving Cam Newton centered around his recruitment by MSU and have been addressed by the NCAA.

    Regardless of what that crackpot says in his blog (can’t remember the site but the blogger is obviously some sort of conspiracy theorist) about the “facts” (as he represents them to be) surrounding Cam Newton’s decision to attend Auburn, there are still not any real, believable facts that anything improper was done.

    Auburn earned this NC and will get to keep it.

  81. gatorprof says: Jan 11, 2011 9:25 PM

    Nice to see that the Bama fans are gracious losers. Wasn’t someone saying something about the Iron Bowl not being important?

    Re:”2. Other players have been ruled ineligible in similar circumstances when neither they nor their family members were found to be directly involved. ”

    When, who?

  82. bakstmart says: Jan 11, 2011 10:20 PM

    I was incorrect, the difference was 3. Either way, hardly “dominance.”
    I hope that for Cam’s sake, and for the sake of Auburn’s integrity, this whole mess blows over. The game was still won/lost on the football field (so graciously stated by Holmes – a Duck player).

    As to Oregon’s offense play-calling, it worked for an entire regular season. The ending balance was still only 3. That’s why second-guessers aren’t at national championship games with their teams.

  83. Deb says: Jan 11, 2011 10:24 PM

    @gatorprof & 1990tiger …

    gatorprof, Alabama didn’t play last night so I’m not sure why they need to be gracious losers today. I congratulated the Tigers when they clobbered us in the Iron Bowl–and again last night. My comments really have nothing to do with Auburn fans. Auburn is a hated rival, but my issue is with the NCAA, the SEC, a bunch of $$$ boys, and in this case, an athlete who’s uber-talented but has probably screwed a lot of unsuspecting fans.

    1990tiger, it’s been established that the Newtons were demanding six figures for Cam’s services when he suddenly signed with Auburn immediately after their only meeting. I’m just saying it’s unrealistic to believe the Newtons suddenly dropped all demands and let him go gratis.

    gatorprof, my brother reeled off several of those examples to me over the holidays. I’ll get them and post when I get a chance. There’s no rush–this thing will be dragging out for a while.

    1990tiger, it was a good game. I much prefer a solid defensive showing to a high-scoring game. Nothing that happened behind the scenes changes the fact that you guys beat all comers.

    My teams have won more National Championships and Super Bowls than any other, so I know that even if there were no questions about Cam Newton, someone would be declaring that Auburn didn’t really win the championship. No matter what, someone is always pissing on the parade. Last year, Longhorns fans debated me half the night that Alabama wasn’t really NC. People have been telling the Saints all weekend they didn’t really earn their Super Bowl last year. That’s just the way it goes.

    No matter what happens, you won the game. Ignore the rest. Enjoy the moment. Maybe nothing will ever come of it.

  84. edgy says: Jan 11, 2011 11:12 PM

    Final Bowl Game Of The Season:

    Norton Anti-Virus Online University Bowl

    University Of Phoenix 0 Kaplan 0

    (Courtesy Of The Conan O’Brien Show).

  85. etsj says: Jan 12, 2011 8:09 AM

    What an idiot! The only “looming question” is how you jack wagons in the tinfoil hats continue to get air time!

    The NCAA ruled on this, the ruling stands. Period.

  86. waynefontes says: Jan 12, 2011 9:36 AM

    Ohio State fans have NOWHERE to talk.

    If it takes playing players who should/will be ineligible to beat the 3rd best SEC team to say you’re no longer 0-9 vs the SEC in bowls…. Clap clap clap. Ohio State still sucks.

    For those who wonder why SEC fans pull for each other, I’ll say this,

    1) In the South, it is an us-aginst the world mindset (for better or worse, thats the way it is)

    2) It’s the one thing that the South is the best in America that we can brag about (low SAT scores, high DUI scores don’t count)

    No Bama fan I know pulled for Auburn (most are sick now), I could never pull for UGA in a title game (not that I have to worry about that)

    7-0 in title games, 5 different schools on top, 5 in a row… and Florida won the title the year before the BCS. It’s not cockiness, it’s proven time in and time out.

  87. 1990tiger says: Jan 12, 2011 9:42 AM

    waynefontes says:

    For those who wonder why SEC fans pull for each other, I’ll say this,

    2) It’s the one thing that the South is the best in America that we can brag about (low SAT scores, high DUI scores don’t count)
    ____________________
    speak for yourself. My SAT score was pretty high and I’ve never had a DUI. ;-).

    I pull for SEC schools because I believe it is, top to bottom (with a few exceptions) the strongest conference in the country and the teams who play in it week in and week out deserve to beat teams who might have more wins because they play in less competitive conferences.

  88. waynefontes says: Jan 12, 2011 9:44 AM

    I hear you, 1990tiger.

    Just dealing with the stereotypes :)

  89. smokehouse56 says: Jan 12, 2011 9:51 AM

    The last time a conference won a national championship was back in, oh wait, conferences don’t win championships. Universities do. This year Auburn won the appointed, fictional national championship. TCU, oh forget TCU, they are from a non anointed conference. Until there is a playoff, there is no national champion. Just a manufactured TV title. If Auburn is better than TCU, prove it. TCU became the second undefeated, conference, and Rose Bowl champion. Penn State was the first in 1994. Both teams deserved a national title as much as Auburn in 2011 and Nebraska in 1994. And by the way, I’ll take the Big Ten over the SEC any day of the week. College sports doesn’t start and end with the SEC. I don’t have the facts but I would guess the Big Ten has more national championships in all sports than the SEC could ever dream of having.

  90. CBFAN says: Jan 12, 2011 10:19 AM

    Waynefontes – Ohio State was not even mentioned on this thread except for a couple of SEC fan’s bringing them up. It’s funny how you all keep dragging OSU into these conversations. BTW, Arkansas was the second best team in the supposed elite conference.

  91. gamustangdude says: Jan 12, 2011 10:55 AM

    @smokehouse56

    Ok Be a Big Ten Fan and end up crying just like they do when they lose. TCU played one of the WORST schedules out of the final top 25 this year and went undefeated, and we’re supposed to praise that? No we are not. Hey TCU, join a REAL conference step your game up (a victory over a horrid Big 10 Team is not stepping your game up BTW) Then maybe who knows. However now that they are an AQ conference, playing a similar sh$%^y schedule just might work out for them.

    Oh and FYI Who cares about basketball, Lacrosse, swimming, golf, on a College Football Blog. Go post that crap on a blog that fits. (Hint: It’s not this one). Current PAC-10 teams lead the way followed by BIG-12 teams, SEC teams, and bringing up the rear is the BIG-10.
    These are the schools with the most Division I NCAA Championships (both men’s and women’s sports combined).
    1. UCLA: 100
    2. Stanford: 92
    3. Southern California: 84
    4. Oklahoma State: 48
    5. Arkansas: 43
    6. LSU: 40
    7. Texas: 39
    8. Michigan: 32
    9. North Carolina: 31
    10. Penn State: 30

    Read more: http://www.listafterlist.com/tabid/57/listid/2010/Sports++Recreation/Most+NCAA+Division+I+Championships.aspx#ixzz1AprKI0NT

  92. gamustangdude says: Jan 12, 2011 11:12 AM

    rgarbonzo says:
    Jan 11, 2011 4:00 PM
    @tideam

    Bama has the most only by alabama’s count. Every other organization has them ranked 3 at most in the most NC’s won

    ————————————————-

    Since the AP poll era 1936, Alabama is tied First with ND with 8 NCs, OK and USC are tied with 7, and Miami and NB are tied with 5.

    For Conferences, SEC Leads the Way with
    19, followed by the BIG-12 with 18, then the Big-10 with 15.

    However all the matters is that the current NC is Auburn.

  93. edgy says: Jan 12, 2011 11:13 AM

    gamustangdude says:

    *********************

    It’s funny that if the SEC champion beats the Big 10 champion and it’s “All hail the conquering hero” but when a MWC team does it it’s “a victory over a horrid Big 10 Team” (I find it hilarious that the two teams that were projected to dance all over Boise State and TCU’s tonsils rather handily, according to you Big Bigots, were then dressed up as little girls by the very same after they didn’t do that).

  94. gamustangdude says: Jan 12, 2011 11:34 AM

    @ Edgy

    Lol i know, maybe I’ll change my tune if they played an SEC team. We’ll see when Boise Plays UGA in week one.

  95. Deb says: Jan 12, 2011 11:58 AM

    @waynefontes …

    Excellent post–although like 1990tiger, my SAT score was high and no DUIs. Laughed out loud at the UGA comment.

    Yes, as I explained the other day, we’ll pull for each other, but there are traditional rivalries that trump the Southern loyalties. Bama fans don’t pull for Auburn or vice versa. Despite what a couple of people have said on here, I don’t know any Auburn fans who cheered for us last year. Of course now that it’s over, we can still were our SEC smug faces when talking with outsiders :)

    BTW, wayne, how did you enjoy life in Detroit City? ;)

  96. nashmatt says: Jan 12, 2011 1:58 PM

    The idea that Auburn fans don’t pull for Bama and vice versa is simply unintelligent and ignorant. There are those fans out that have that keep that principal, but it is not the more intelligent of fans.

    I personally know 4 lifelong, passionate Alabama fans that pulled for Auburn in the SEC championship and in the BCS championship.

    Myself I pull for Bama every time unless a win for them is detrimental to Auburn’s quest for the SEC championship. I want to face the most successful Alabama team possible. It makes it only sweeter if/when we beat them the last game of the season.

    Now that doesn’t mean I’m putting on Bama apparel, and having a watching party for Bama games.

  97. Deb says: Jan 12, 2011 4:08 PM

    @nashmatt …

    Let’s see … that’s 4 plus 1 … OMIGOODNESS!!!! FIVE!!!

    FIVE people you personally know in the Auburn/Alabama fanbase ignore our teams’ longstanding rivalry and root for one another in these championship situations. (Of course, that’s the first time Auburn has been in this situation in my lifetime.)

    Well, obviously you’re right. Your personal anecdotal evidence outweighs all other stories to the contrary. Thank you for sharing the evidence and experience of the “intelligent” fans. :roll:

  98. nashmatt says: Jan 12, 2011 6:09 PM

    The point, Deb, is, I, one Auburn fan and ALUM know four that I did not go seeking out. I cannot possibly be the only one. And hoping your rival wins a game is NOT ignoring the rivalry.

    I have known plenty more through the years in other situations. Hoping that Alabama loses every game they play is just doesn’t make sense to me. If that were to happen it would weaken our schedule and the SEC as a conference.

    What makes no sense to me with the “I root for every team that plays Bama” idea is what follows.
    Lets say we have only lost to LSU, and yet LSU has only one loss to another SEC team with two losses. Then Bama plays LSU. If LSU wins then they are off to the SEC championship. Where has if BAMA wins Auburn controls its destiny. Don’t even begin to say this situation is far fetched. It has happened many times since the beginning of the SEC championship game. So I guess a real Auburn fan would root for LSU and to not go to the SEC championship.

    This does not mean that I don’t make fun of Bammers and on occasion revel in their demise (think SC game this year). Yet I still would have loved for us to knocked off an undefeated Bama this year. I also have much distaste for the Bama fanbase as a whole because they are arrogant and think their 13 so called championships is the capstone of what makes their university notable.

    Now be honest, haven’t the best wins against Bama come win they were on top of the world and we knocked them off it?

    Sorry for my harshness, especially to individuals of my Auburn family, but that whole notion is one that I have never understood and kinda sets me off.

    WAR EAGLE

  99. smokehouse56 says: Jan 12, 2011 6:35 PM

    I hope Auburn doesn’t go another 50 some years to win another fictional title. The only great football school in the SEC is Alabama. The rest are pretenders.

  100. Deb says: Jan 12, 2011 7:08 PM

    Now nashmatt, where did I say anything about wishing for the Tigers to lose every game played? I said the championship. ALUM, huh? I see you posted that all nice and BIG. How did you do in reading comprehension? Yes, 13 … I see you excel at math ;)

    ROLL TIDE!!!

  101. waynefontes says: Jan 16, 2011 10:40 AM

    smokehouse56 says:
    Jan 12, 2011 9:51 AM
    The last time a conference won a national championship was back in, oh wait, conferences don’t win championships. Universities do. This year Auburn won the appointed, fictional national championship. TCU, oh forget TCU, they are from a non anointed conference. Until there is a playoff, there is no national champion. Just a manufactured TV title. If Auburn is better than TCU, prove it. TCU became the second undefeated, conference, and Rose Bowl champion. Penn State was the first in 1994. Both teams deserved a national title as much as Auburn in 2011 and Nebraska in 1994. And by the way, I’ll take the Big Ten over the SEC any day of the week. College sports doesn’t start and end with the SEC. I don’t have the facts but I would guess the Big Ten has more national championships in all sports than the SEC could ever dream of having.
    ————————————————–

    I don’t have the facts, but I would guess as many SEC schools have won national titles in football the last five years as the Big Ten has in the last 74 years.

    Oh wait, I’m not guessing – it’s true!

    “Competitive depth has been the SEC’s self-trumpeted calling card the past several years, and at this point it’s hard to argue. Dennis Dodd of CBS Sports first tweeted this amazing stat late Monday night: The SEC has had as many schools (four) win national championships in the past five years (Florida, LSU, Alabama and Auburn) as the Big Ten has in the 74-year history of the AP poll (Michigan, Michigan State, Minnesota and Ohio State).”

    The Big Ten is a nice little conference. Very overrated. They have Ohio State and maybe one other very good team every year and a bunch of patsies. And the patsies are always the same 8 teams out of an 11 team conference.

    So enjoy your golf, water polo and field hockey titles. Leave the big boy sports to the big boy conference.

  102. waynefontes says: Jan 16, 2011 10:47 AM

    Deb says:
    Jan 12, 2011 11:58 AM
    @waynefontes …

    BTW, wayne, how did you enjoy life in Detroit City?

    ————————————————–

    It was miserable, what do you expect though, it’s Big Ten..er.. eleven..er, twelve country…

    Congrats to the Steelers, hate that the Ravens lost (again) but I’ll take an SEC national champion (non UGA or non Tebow UF) over any team that wins the Super Bowl on my scale of things that matter.

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