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Former Ohio State QB caught up in another gambling scheme

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Former Ohio State quarterback Art Schlichter has already been to jail 44 times over the past 17 years, largely for fraud and/or forgery involving a gambling addiction.

He may have reached 45.

According to the Columbus Dispatch, Schlichter began soliciting money two years ago from people for an “investment opportunity” involving brokering and selling tickets for, among other events, Ohio State football games and the Super Bowl. The ROI was supposed to come around last night’s game, when Schlichter was planning to sell tickets for hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Instead, Schlichter was reportedly using the money he received, estimated to be in the millions, to fuel his gambling addiction.

One of the people duped by Schlichter’s “investment opportunity” wasoddly — Anita Barney, the 68-year-old widow of former Wendy’s CEO and chairman Robert Barney. Barney helped fund Schlichter’s investment scheme until her assets were depleted, at which point she began soliciting associates and friends for money. According to lawsuits, the amount she solicited is ranging anywhere from $29,000 to over $200,000.

No charges have been confirmed in the case. Schlichter has only admitted that he planns to speak to authorities and that he had a serious, serious problem (which is, I believe, the first step toward recovery).

“It will help a lot of people,” Schlichter said in a text message to the Dispatch. “This addiction is a (expletive.)”

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  1. seanmmartin says: Feb 7, 2011 10:27 AM

    Jesus Christ…

  2. rlsmit says: Feb 7, 2011 11:33 AM

    Gambling and playing “the 5″ just to earn a bowl win. What else to you expect from the Buckeyes, it’s not like they’re winning championships. However they do have a few “#1″ accolades that they never seem to finish with.

  3. southernpatriots says: Feb 7, 2011 11:44 AM

    Where are all the Big 10 fans and bloggers on this one? Where are the boasters in OSU on this one? Have at it. We are waiting.

    Art has needed an intervention for some time. Why hasn’t his family, his close friends, etc. intervened?

  4. lucky5927 says: Feb 7, 2011 11:48 AM

    Keeping up with the number of super bowls is always a good thing in regards to jail time.

  5. buckeyeboy(used to be a couple of different things) says: Feb 7, 2011 12:05 PM

    I love ohio state lol that being said who cares what some old guy does? Sadly most of you on here are older than this man and look upon him for your own shortcomings.

    rlsmit, I’m sorry you have so much hate and discontent in your heart for osu, I will give you pity just as I have pity for edgy.

    and southernpatriots, please root for a team and not a conference, you are the saddest of all college fans :(

    this guys scum and a scrub, but so is sCam Newton, so quit crying about it and please whine about the guy who was involved in extortion

  6. BC says: Feb 7, 2011 12:09 PM

    Yow.

  7. lbijake says: Feb 7, 2011 12:14 PM

    Typical behavior from “The” Ohio State University.

  8. 11inthebox says: Feb 7, 2011 1:05 PM

    @Ibijake, rlsmit, and southernpatriots:

    Schlichter’s problem is bigger than any intervention or jail time could overcome. Its a lifelong sickness, and like any addiction, its not a joking matter. You think this guy is ‘happy’ to have lost everything in his life?

    Im always astounded by snarky little comments in relation to other people’s serious problems. Does it make your life any better? Even a tiny bit?

  9. buckeye2222 says: Feb 7, 2011 1:23 PM

    45 strikes your out,lock the bum up and throw away the key.

  10. rlsmit says: Feb 7, 2011 1:23 PM

    @11inthebox

    I was poking fun at OSU not Schlichter’s sorry you missed that, however when you come off your soap box read the comments again.

    @buckeyeboy

    Every article littered with criminal mischief involving SEC players, Big 10 commenters always throw the proverbial “Stay Classy SEC”

    So now I’m returning the favor. Sorry if you can’t handle it. Next time, have your mommy or daddy hold your hand while you read my comments.

  11. 11inthebox says: Feb 7, 2011 1:48 PM

    @rlsmit:
    oh, so you’re using one guy’s addiction to characterize an entire university.

    Yeah, that is indeed very clever. Sorry I missed that.

  12. rlsmit says: Feb 7, 2011 2:07 PM

    @11inthebo

    I just said not 30 mins ago if you have questions read the comments again. If you did that than you would’ve read…

    “Gambling and playing “the 5″ just to earn a bowl win”

    So i’m not using one guys addicition, however using a series of events to include playing “the 5″ and if you want I could include the fondling allegations from OSU’s recruit. I say thoses sum up OSU.

  13. buckeyeboy(used to be a couple of different things) says: Feb 7, 2011 2:43 PM

    haha rlsmits last post just proves that he has the mind of a child…..did you know jeffery dahmer went to Ohio State for a quarter?!

    man ohio state according to rlsmit is full of gamblers, people who sell their own property, and serial killers

    yeah, that doesnt sound like delusional ramblings by a hater

  14. southernpatriots says: Feb 7, 2011 2:52 PM

    Stay classy Big 10

  15. edgy says: Feb 7, 2011 3:26 PM

    Yep, Ohio State/Big 10 guys sure like to dish it out but they can’t take it. Oh and Buckeyegirl, don’t LOL or try to call me a sad old man because we all know that’s your way of “dealing” with the shortcomings of your beloved and sanctified U. Stray Classy, Ohio State (and no, that’s not a typo). Between Art, the Tattoo 5 and the Fondler, you guys must be so proud.

  16. lbijake says: Feb 7, 2011 3:27 PM

    To 11inthebox,

    I too was also jesting at the institution, and their holier than thou attitude, not the individual. Comments concerning Little Sisters of the Poor and not following up. Also letting the infamous 5 play in the bowl game are just some of the inconsistencies of “The” Ohio State University. Hoping Mr. Schlichter can start turning his life around.

  17. buckeyeboy(used to be a couple of different things) says: Feb 7, 2011 3:35 PM

    edgy but you are, thats why everyone does take pity on you and not yell at you for all of your ignorant posts….lol (that one was just for you)

    and someone talking about shortcomings of one school as hes a fan of USC

  18. edgy says: Feb 7, 2011 3:42 PM

    Listen Buckeyegirl, I don’t go around yanking on people unless they yank first. If you Big 10 hypocrites would have kept your mouth shut about the SEC and their problems, you’d have never heard from anyone but you pulled your holier-than-thou crap on everyone in every conference and then when it came time to take your medicine, you’ve looked like the hypocrites that you are. Unfortunately, you guys can’t take your own advice and stay classy so either take your medicine or STFU about what happens around anywhere. Oh and as for USC, turd, I’m the ONLY one that has come out for giving them the death penalty and the others around here will tell you that they didn’t appreciate that I did. When you can put your biases away and look at things objectively THEN call me but that’s not going to happen.

    Finally, has anyone noticed that Buckeyegirl AGAIN didn’t address the issue. LOL and then divert. Too immature to talk about the issues.

  19. southernpatriots says: Feb 7, 2011 3:47 PM

    edgy: gave you a thumbs up again as we have so many dozens of times for the truth you write, though we wish you wrote it a little differently, but we understand your frustration.

  20. seanmmartin says: Feb 7, 2011 3:52 PM

    It is unbelievable how frequently you all stray away from the POINT of the article and argue with eachother.

  21. buckeyeboy(used to be a couple of different things) says: Feb 7, 2011 4:03 PM

    lol my point is its a guy not associated with the school anymore, so why is it OSU’s fault?

    but alas, our friends southernpatriots and edgy miss this

  22. buckeye044 says: Feb 7, 2011 4:14 PM

    @southernpatriots

    do a little homework before posting every once in awhile.

    You might find out that Art’s addiction destroyed his family to the extent they went bankrupt because he was stealing from them. Once a very well to do and respected family, they lost everything. Sadly, it ended with his dad and suicide.

  23. rlsmit says: Feb 7, 2011 5:01 PM

    @buckeyeboy

    Hater? Me? Of what? Ohio State? What have they done for me to hate on?

    The funny thing is that You and other Ohio State fans can dish it out but can’t take it. So when someone like me dishes back, you pull out the “hater” card.

    Sorry Buckeyeboy revisit the drawing board, OSU has done nothing to deserve to be hated on.

  24. polegojim says: Feb 7, 2011 5:21 PM

    How about this:

    It’s a sad situation for any human being to be in, no matter WHERE they went to school.

    It would be sad if he was from LSU, Michigan, Alabama, Ohio State, Auburn, Michigan State… etc.

    As a Michigan fan, I have the highest regard for OSU history and human performance. This has nothing to do with ‘the school’.

    Grow up…

  25. rlsmit says: Feb 7, 2011 5:33 PM

    @polegojim

    Why is this a sad story? He brought this on himself. No one deserves the blame but him. If he wanted to quit or get help trust me in those 44 soon to 45 instances, he could’ve found it. Come off your “morale” high horse please. This guy deserves no special treatment.

  26. edgy says: Feb 7, 2011 6:10 PM

    I don’t feel ANY sorrow when it comes to Art. I feel sorry for his family and victims because they’ve been taken in by him but he’s been to GA and other programs and the most important thing that they tell them is that they’re never cured so they have to stay away or they’re going to fall back into their hold habits. It’s HIS fault that he continues to get into these situations and you can only forgive him so many times (like ONCE) before you have to move on. If he really wants to put this behind him then he needs to give it up for good and he knows that because he’s been told it as many times as Charlie Sheen has been told that he needs to give up the booze.

    Now, I give the holier-than-thou Buckeyes crap because of the way that they treat the SEC but it’s not their fault that this guy is a turd but anyone that has sympathy for the guy needs to stop because he’s had more than enough chances to prove that he’s learned and he hasn’t. Save your pity for someone who really needs it.

  27. edgy says: Feb 7, 2011 6:13 PM

    Buckeyegirl, I didn’t miss the point, especially coming for the LOL girl who won’t stay on point when it comes to anything Buckeye. Rather than admit that things aren’t as Rosy as you want, you attack others for pointing out your hypocrisy.

  28. buckeyeboy(used to be a couple of different things) says: Feb 7, 2011 6:32 PM

    whoo man angered edgy lol watch out he’s gonna rampage against anyone who doesn’t think that he knows it all!!!!

  29. thegonz13 says: Feb 7, 2011 6:47 PM

    What seems odd is that in this day and age, information is accessible to everyone.

    What, no one knew that Schlichter was a hopeless gambler and that he’d been in jail dozens of times?

  30. angelheartsbuckeyes says: Feb 7, 2011 7:27 PM

    If this were another school, I wonder if it would even be a headline…

    What have we done to be hated on? Well, we’ve been the best team in the nation once. We were the second best team in the nation two more times after that. We are consistantly a top five program. We have been to and won more BCS bowl games than anyone else. 7 titles (not the most, but pretty respectable). 5 Heisman’s and the only two-time back to back winner.

    Sure, Florida you have two titles here recently–you also have a 7-5 season and a few toilet bowl appearances (including a horrific loss in the Capital One Bowl Timmy’s Heisman year to a team to lost to Appy State). Texas? Well Mac you had us in consecutive 10 win seasons and then last year happened. USC? Well, what can I say that hasnt been said. Alabama–anyone remember a little Utah game or how about a few 7-5 seasons sprinkled in there as well the last ten years.

    So yeah, go ahead and take your shots at us because some guy who played QB at tOSU while Jimmy Carter was president is a degenerate gambler.

    Shoot, would have been better for his gambling if he’d gone to an SEC school…at least there he could have learned how to cheat.

    (I keed, I keed)

  31. rlsmit says: Feb 7, 2011 8:09 PM

    @angelheartsbuckeye

    All that being said you are 1-9 vs the TOP conference in college football. 0-1 vs my alma-mata. So does the validate those “consistent” top 5 rankings? Or did both LSU and Florida prove why Ohio State shouldn’t be taken seriously? Ohio state is the best team in a weak conference. That’s like being the thinnest kid at fat camp. Congrats. The SEC has made Ohio State look like the frauds they are. They will never be the same. So tell me again why we should “hate” on OSU.

  32. rlsmit says: Feb 7, 2011 8:12 PM

    Alma mater sorry s$$t happens

  33. BrownsTown says: Feb 7, 2011 10:13 PM

    OJ killed two people (allegedly….do I still have to say that?).

    OJ went to USC.

    Need I say more?

    Regards,
    rlsmit

  34. BrownsTown says: Feb 7, 2011 10:15 PM

    OJ killed two people (allegedly….do I still have to say that?).

    OJ went to USC.

    Need I say more?

    Regards,
    edgy

  35. BrownsTown says: Feb 7, 2011 10:22 PM

    But seriously, who has the bigger boner for OSU? Edgy or rlsmit?

    Question for editors: can I use ‘boner” on this site? I think the context fits as it’s obvious the above referenced users are highly fixated on my favorite university.

  36. rlsmit says: Feb 7, 2011 10:36 PM

    I’m sorry you wrote OJ however I read Maurice Clarett. Buckeye fans sure hate seeing the truth huh Brownstone? Call it a boner, hey call it whatever you like. What you can’t call it however, is lying. Stay classy OSU.

  37. angelheartsbuckeyes says: Feb 7, 2011 10:38 PM

    @ rlsmit

    So we are the best team in a weak conference? The same conference that is just about .500 againt your so called best conference in bowl games? I love SEC logic. Oh, and of those 9 bowls we lost, how many were during the ‘golden’ age of the SEC (the last 10 years). Yeah, that would be two. In MNC’s.

    Better to be the thinnest kid at fat camp than the fuk-tard eating twinkies at the gate who couldnt get in.

  38. buckeyeboy(used to be a couple of different things) says: Feb 7, 2011 11:07 PM

    boom roasted rlsmit!!!!!!

    get some little lady

  39. Ben Kercheval says: Feb 7, 2011 11:11 PM

    We’ve heard worse on this site, BrownsTown, but I wouldn’t recommend it making it a regular thing.

  40. rlsmit says: Feb 7, 2011 11:27 PM

    So you’re saying a kid eating (sorry) fuktard eating twinkies couldn’t get into fat camp? Is that the logic they teach at OSU? Ok you win. But thanks for admitting the NCs losses. Two different SEC teams right? Just checking. You may continue. Thanks for bringing up the last ten years since you opened that book what’s the record for bowl games again? 0-2 (only NCs) try 1-4 you forgot South Carolina TWICE!

    And you call yourself a Buckeye fan? Buckeye, Brownstown really? This guy needs to get all comments approved before selecting submit please.

  41. Slim Charles says: Feb 7, 2011 11:44 PM

    I’m sorry but if this lady was dumb enough to loan one of the most notorious problem gamblers in history money, she doesn’t deserve to have it. Hell, give it to me, at least I’ll spend it on expensive bourbon and sneakers.

  42. angelheartsbuckeyes says: Feb 8, 2011 1:32 AM

    @ rlsmit

    I said the last ten years–back to 2001, so its South Carolina once NOT twice (see how I used all caps like you).

    Oh and the fat kid standing at the gate is a metaphor for those who know they are fat and cant do anything about it.

    Dang that tOSU education–gettin’ all complicated on you simple folk.

  43. Edgy is undert THEE Thumb! says: Feb 8, 2011 7:53 AM

    Same problem, different year with this guy. Regardless of how many times he goes to jail or GA, he ends up back at square one.

    There’s also a continuous theme among “the most commented on” stories on CFT these days as well – those roaring thumbs responding to all of those “edgy” comments coming out of Idaho.

  44. rlsmit says: Feb 8, 2011 7:54 AM

    Dude you are not really saying these things out loud.

    You played South Carolina Jan 1st 2001, 2002.

    So like I said before 1-4, thanks for playing.

    So taken your statement…

    “Dang that tOSU education–gettin’ all complicated on you simple folk.”

    Math is fundamental.

    FYI, you suck at metaphors. You must have been sick that day.

    “Better to be the thinnest kid at fat camp than the fuk-tard eating Twinkies at the gate who couldn’t get in.”

    So a “fuk-tard” eating Twinkies couldn’t get into fat camp? Isn’t that the audience they would try to attract? It seems to me that the “fuk-tard” would be just the type of person that they would be looking for.

    Dude you are in way over your head. Give up now

  45. edgy says: Feb 8, 2011 11:47 AM

    Browns Clown, was I the one running around here giving the SEC grief for their problems — HELL and NO. You guys have been holier-than-thou on them and when they get the chance to fire back, you act as if you’re all innocent victims. You’re getting what Karma has in store for you and unless you finally stop acting as if you’re school is infallable, you’ll continue to get it back.

    As for OJ and the others — bring it on. I’m not running around here like you clowns and acting as if USC didn’t have problems and I wasn’t going around talking about the criminals in the SEC like you guys do. Either stop pointing out the SEC’s foibles or accept your medicine. This is much deserved and you clowns need to grow up and realize that turds come in all sizes and conferences.

    Oh and Buckeyegirl, stick to Facebook like the rest of your teenage friends. The grown ups keep wanting to talk and all you can do is LOL and divert. Just once, STICK TO THE SUBJECT. Oh and I’m not angry at Art; I just think that all sympathy is wasted on him, just like OJ. BTW, I guess you can’t stick to the subject AND you can’t stick with your name. Too embarrassed to stay with your name and school. If anyone’s to be pitied, it’s you.

  46. dkhhuey says: Feb 8, 2011 11:54 AM

    Wow – who would have though the old bitter, angry, hate filled edgy would post on a story about OSU. To all those attacking OSU for this, you are complete and utter idiots. Who gives a sh!t what Art does and how in the world does this now reflect poorly on OSU? Wow, Art played four years at OSU and played well and did NOTHING to violate any rules, laws, or break any social norms! Excellent. He graduated as well! Excellent! He got drafted by the Colt and it was there that his world collapsed and the flood gates opened to his gambling problems. Funny, I don’t hear you bashing the Colts for this – only OSU!

    Once again edgy and others – I find it even more idiotic that you continue to lump every single OSU fan into one big stereotype based on one or two posters that you’ve run into. Get a live ret@rds and may I suggest some therapy to help you get over your massive hatred to one of the greatest universities in this country: THE Ohio State University!!!

  47. southernpatriots says: Feb 8, 2011 11:56 AM

    edgy: yet another thumbs up and kudos from us! Thanks for cleaning it up some, we can see you made a good effort. By the way, a dear friend has he and his family out near USC while receiving a double lung transplant for his precious young daughter with cystic fibrosis at Cedars-Sinai. He was in the waiting room yesterday and sat next to one of the coaches of the USC football team (who has a child there as well) and this coach told him that everyone who is dealing with the NCAA penalty appeal thinks the NCAA will lessen the penalty soon due to the amount of help USC gave the NCAA in their investigation. It appears the USC faculty have literally fallen over backwards assisting the NCAA, accommodating them, respecting their investigation, etc. and this will go far with the appeal. Have you heard anything?

  48. buckeyeboy(used to be a couple of different things) says: Feb 8, 2011 1:40 PM

    edgy hasnt heard anything for years lol

  49. angelheartsbuckeyes says: Feb 8, 2011 2:39 PM

    @ rlsmit

    Ummm, so by your logic, Auburn is the MNChamp of the 2011 season? Really? Not. We may have played South Carolina in 2001, but it was the 2000 season. Get it–I tried to use as many small words as possible, but I have to remember you are the same person who has referenced me as ‘dude’ when I am clearly a woman (but again, since I am sure you have not had much contact with them I’ll give you a pass on that one).

    Oh, and allow me to break down the metaphor for you AGAIN:

    Fat kid at gate eating twinkies. At the gate because he cant get it. Not ALL

  50. angelheartsbuckeyes says: Feb 8, 2011 2:44 PM

    @ rlsmit

    Ummm, so by your logic, Auburn is the MNChamp of the 2011 season? Really? Not. We may have played South Carolina in 2001, but it was the 2000 season. Get it–I tried to use as many small words as possible, but I have to remember you are the same person who has referenced me as ‘dude’ when I am clearly a woman (but again, since I am sure you have not had much contact with us I’ll give you a pass on that one).

    Oh, and allow me to break down the metaphor for you AGAIN:

    Fat kid at gate eating twinkies. At the gate because he cant get it. Not ALL fat kids get to go to camp. Just like not all schools get to play for a MNC.

    And as far as being in over my head–pure comedy. Two things in life I know a lot about–idiots and football. Thanks for giving the opportunity to have both at the same time.

  51. yourfuct says: Feb 8, 2011 2:58 PM

    Just don’t understand why you guys use these articles to argue with each other. Addiction is very serious! In fact, most of you sound like a bunch of alcoholics yourselves.

    RE:It appears the USC faculty have literally fallen over backwards assisting the NCAA= $
    Hopefully you’ll get to a bowl sooner or later, but at 8-5, it’s not going to be a bcs bowl.

    As far as playing “the 5″ just to earn a bowl win.

    2 words. Cam Newton
    1st profe$$ional athlete to play college football just to earn a bowl win.

    http://articles.latimes.com/2011/jan/26/sports/la-sp-ohiostate-usc26

  52. rlsmit says: Feb 8, 2011 3:56 PM

    Thank you, I was waiting for you to walk in that trap.
    Weather you look at seasons 2010 season- 10 years = 2000 season
    Or calendar years Jan 1st 2011. – 10 years Jan 1st 2001 the same five games apply. (1-4) I’ll give you time to think about it.

    2000 seasons outback bowl was played on Jan 1st 2001.

    2010 season, OSU bowl game was played on Jan 1st 2011. That’s ten years, either way you slice it, in the past 10 years OSU is 1-4.

    Like I said before, thanks for showing us how much of an idiot you are.

    You are in over your head, Big 10 has been the joke of college football for 5 years. When was the last time OSU was in a NC game? Seems like OSU is the fuk-tard trying to get into fat camp. Please think before you post again.

    Ok that’s enough time.

  53. rlsmit says: Feb 8, 2011 4:33 PM

    yourfuct

    When you have proof that Cam Newton did something wrong at Auburn then you can use that excuse. Unlike the case with Auburn, the 5 ADMITTED (that’s what we call some sort of proof) that they sold items. There’s no evidence out there (yet) that says Cam is guilty of what you claim. That’s the Big difference.

    Is it me, or does Ohio State Fans/grads ignore Facts?

  54. yourfuct says: Feb 8, 2011 4:41 PM

    You are arguing over how long 10 years is? And what a metaphor is? Seriously? Who Cares either way?

    rlsmit
    If your this big egotistical SEC homer that knows absolutley everything there is to know in this world. Would you like to talk about the recruiting that goes on in the SEC?

    Also would like to add that angelheartsbuckeyes has a good point about the real MNC. There are two undefeated teams remaining.

    Relax and have a conversation. Is there anything wrong with that?
    Because none of you would be talking like ignorant a**holes face to face.

  55. yourfuct says: Feb 8, 2011 4:50 PM

    There is plent of proof about Cam Newton.
    He gets declared ineligible and then gets reinstated three days later? For what? Oh nothing, no big deal.

    Interesting to say the least.

    Do u work for the SEC?
    I do like how you said (yet)
    Reggie bush said that a few years ago too.

  56. rlsmit says: Feb 8, 2011 5:00 PM

    One last thing,

    OSU has the better stats, that’s all that article proves, on paper OSU is better than everyone else. However, what the SEC consistently proves is that games are not won on paper. It serves no purpose to be considered number 1 on paper and then lose every single time you play SEC schools (except once, sorry) The Fact Ohio State plays in the Big 10 means that they are going to have an easier, yes I said easier, route to not only the NC game, but BCS Bowl games. Not the Case? Who until this year was able to challenge OSU in the Big 10 on a consistent basis? No one. So, Just like Boise, all Ohio State had to do was win in the regular season then they found themselves in the National Title / bowl games. It was there they got exposed, 1-3 in NC games and 6-5 in Bowl games. So, congrats for being the best team on paper however losing when it counted.

    And FYI, 1 of those victories were over the elite programs considered in your article USC, LSU, Oklahoma, Florida, and Texas. However OSU accumulated 6 losses against these very same teams. Your only win I think was against Texas in 2004/5 I can’t remember.

    Thanks for playing, on to the next article. It’s been fun making all of you OSU fans look like “fuk-tards”.

  57. dkhhuey says: Feb 8, 2011 5:05 PM

    @rlsmit -you really need to put down the caffeine source and calm the f@#$ down. Who gives a sh!t about what you’re vomiting out. My god you are pathetic!

    From this Buckeye’s perspective – I could CARE LESS about the SEC! We have sucked against them in the past but last game, we took down Arkansas. What impact does that have on this coming year? NONE! New season!!! Do I give a sh!t about the Big Ten vs. SEC, PAC 10, ACC? NO! All I care about is THE Ohio State University! Nothing you say will change that! So by all means ret@rd, continue to pull out the absurd and ridiculously petty/stupid arguments for it matters nothing to me and my support of THE Ohio State University.

  58. yourfuct says: Feb 8, 2011 5:16 PM

    Don’t want to talk about SEC over-recruiting?
    That’s what I thought?
    I’m done talking to you.
    You should think about anger management classes.
    Your the kind of person that I would love to meet in person.
    Internet tough guy

  59. yourfuct says: Feb 8, 2011 5:28 PM

    One last thing, OSU currently has the most BCS wins.
    That’s a fact!
    I wonder why SEC teams hardly play out of conference games up north?
    By the way, it’s 1-2 in MNC games, but of course you already knew that.
    Regardless of outcome, I’d much rather play in 9 BCS bowl games and 3 BCS MNC games over any other bowl.
    6-3 Bcs bowls.

  60. rlsmit says: Feb 8, 2011 5:31 PM

    My Brett Farve Impression,

    @youfuct

    Be careful what you wish for, you just might.

    Back at you internet tough guy #2.

    Your claim is that you know the intricate details of every SEC school in their recruiting tactics? Or are you looking at the example of one school and summing it up to All SEC Schools? Either way I doubt you are that knowledgeable. You probably read an article and now decide to use it as a talking point without knowing any real facts, just assumptions. Just like the rest of your Ohio State brethren.

    @dkhhuey

    Take own advice please and you calm the F$%K down. No one’s asking you to read my posts, better yet comment on them. You decide to show your ignorance all by your lonesome. Continue on brother. Who cares what you think, obviously you DO care about mine, or you wouldn’t have bothered to say/ post anything at all.

    Now I’m officially done.

  61. buckeyeboy(used to be a couple of different things) says: Feb 8, 2011 5:48 PM

    rlsmit, you are a child, it is sad to see you on here, and yes please keep defending the cheater sCam

  62. edgy says: Feb 8, 2011 6:20 PM

    Who would have thought that the ultimate Suckeye Apologist, dkhhuey , would comment on a story and get it wrong. Where did I lump every Suckeye player? Go back and read it. I just talked about a couple and said that you guys must be proud, especially when YOU lump all the SEC players together and call them criminal and take a holier-than-thou attitude. Seriously, stop being hypocrites and you might take less grief but again, what can we expect from a group that insists on living in the distant past.

  63. yourfuct says: Feb 8, 2011 6:46 PM

    @rlsmit

    Be careful what you wish for, you just might.

    Where do u live? Let’s meet up.
    That knowledgeable? Please, I’ve been following college football for 30+ years and it’s never been a secret that, not all, but 90% of SEC teams over recruit year in and year out.

    Have u noticed a trend on here that nobody but 1 person likes you. That must feel good.

  64. secgreatness says: Feb 8, 2011 6:56 PM

    BLDG 2470
    Fort Sill, Oklahoma
    73505

    If you can get on post, I’ll be waiting. Just ask for the “BC”

  65. secgreatness says: Feb 8, 2011 7:00 PM

    you see I’ve change my name to fit my comments

  66. rlsmit says: Feb 8, 2011 7:05 PM

    SECgreatness really?

    That’s not me, who’s the child now

  67. yourfuct says: Feb 8, 2011 7:16 PM

    How long did it take u to google that?

    If your willing to read something that is not all
    pro-SEC. Just check out oversigning.com

    Here’s another good one for you where president’s and coaches of SEC universities admit to it.
    Maybe your the one that’s not so knowledgeable.

    Is it me, or do SEC Fans/grads ignore Facts?

  68. yourfuct says: Feb 8, 2011 7:18 PM

    Forgot to leave this for you.
    http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/2011-01-31-recruiting-schools-oversigning_N.htm

  69. dkhhuey says: Feb 8, 2011 11:17 PM

    @edgy – amazing how bad your memory is. The last time we had this discussion I pasted about 5 or 6 separate postings you had made where you indeed vomited out comments stereotyping all Buckeye fans into your little insulting categories. You know it and so do most other regulars on this board. Your incredible hatred of OSU, its fans, and the Big Ten are painfully obvious and you grow more pathetic with every post. You are a sad old man who tries to pump up his self worth by attacking people who don’t buy into your delusional arguments.

  70. angelheartsbuckeyes says: Feb 9, 2011 12:21 AM

    @ rlsmit

    The last time we were in an MNC was 2007. Before that was 2006. Oh, and then there was 2002.

    Anyone been to more?

    btw, you use all your fingers and toes to do that math? No worries, you SEC guys rarely let facts stand in the way.

    1) 2010–Arkansas
    2) 2009–Oregon
    3) 2008–Texas
    4) 2007–LSU
    5) 2006–Florida
    6) 2005–Notre Dame
    7) 2004–Oklahoma State 8) 2003–Kansas
    9) 2002–Miami
    10) 2001–South Carolina

    Some trap. Yep, sure got me.

  71. rlsmit says: Feb 9, 2011 8:11 AM

    You said….
    “Oh, and of those 9 bowls we lost, how many were during the ‘golden’ age of the SEC (the last 10 years). Yeah, that would be two. In MNC’s.”

    If you meant 10 games you should have said that. However you didn’t say 10 games you said 10 years.

    2011
    - 10
    ____

    2001

    That includes Jan 1st 2001 your 1st loss to South Carolina.

    You must be blonde

  72. buckeyeboy(used to be a couple of different things) says: Feb 9, 2011 9:31 AM

    rlsmit, if he says 10 years it means 10 seasons, do you just not get it or are you stupid?

  73. secgreatness says: Feb 9, 2011 9:36 AM

    @buckeyeboy

    Thanks for proving MY point not hers.

    Either 10 years…

    Jan 1st 2011 – 10 = Jan 1st 2001

    Or 10 seasons,

    2010 Season -10 = 2000 Season

    The same game applies. That 1st lost to South Carolina was played during the 2000 season however on Calendar date Jan 1st 2001.

    Is stupid common in Ohio? I don’t know, never been

  74. edgy says: Feb 9, 2011 9:46 AM

    dkhhuey says:

    ***************

    and this has something to do with this conversation because…..

    I can go all over this place and find conversations from most, if not all of the Suckeye fans and how they’ve went after the SEC because of academics or the criminal element. When your panties are clean then you can talk about as we all know, they’re stained with tattoo ink.

  75. secgreatness says: Feb 9, 2011 9:50 AM

    @yourfuct says

    Feb 8, 2011 7:18 PM
    Forgot to leave this for you.
    http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/2011-01-31-recruiting-schools-oversigning_N.htm

    ________________________________

    The first few paragraphs just proved that over signing is not just an SEC issue. Your opening story focused on a BIG 12 school, Colorado State.

  76. secgreatness says: Feb 9, 2011 9:51 AM

    Sorry, MW school

  77. dkhhuey says: Feb 9, 2011 9:53 AM

    @edgy – for an old man, you have the maturity level of a 5 year old. I called you out previously and I’ve called you out on this story for constantly stereotyping all Buckeye fans based on you intense hatred of the university and all its fans and you respond with ‘well other Buckeye fans do this and so… exactly like a little baby 5 year old would do. Take responsibility for your hatred and stop trying to justify it based on somebody else.

  78. CFT pissing contests are always edgy says: Feb 9, 2011 10:02 AM

    A CFT guide to “edgy postings:

    Its easy to figure out if a post is written by edgy or one of his alias’ in any CFT thread – they’re all of the ones with the derogatory name calling.

  79. edgy says: Feb 9, 2011 10:05 AM

    What makes me laugh about this whole oversigning argument is that the Suckeyes can afford to adhere to it because there have only been 3 schools, Ohio State, Michigan and Penn State that have competited on a national level when it comes to recruiting (Nebraska will recruit but they won’t be as high up as many of the top SEC teams). If they’re lucky, they might get 3 teams in the top 20 and that’s IF they’re lucky. Ohio State is only competiting against itself in the Big 10 while Alabama is competing against 5-7 teams for the real elite talent.

    On the other hand, the SEC is dog eat dog. They have the most talent in the country and they vie for the talent that consistently puts them at #1 year in and year out and part of their oversigning is that these guys don’t always qualify so they have to hedge their bets. The SEC has 6-8 teams in the top 20 every year and it’s NOT because of some ESPN biases. Hell, even the Big 10 recognizes where the talent is and they sign 18-20% of “their” talent from this area.

    Stop the oversigning and guess what – the SEC STILL has the top classes and the Big 10 still has classes that are 4th-6th (and they were 5th this year, even with Nebraska). Frankly, people want to gravitate to the better programs, so that’s why Ohio State gets its share of players but even more so, why the SEC gets the best. Please, raise your hands if you’re stupid enough to believe that a lot of 4 and 5 star players in Alabama grows up and wants to play for Ohio State instead of Alabama or Auburn.

    BTW, for those of you who might want to smack me down for an SEC bias — TROJAN. I don’t give a rat’s ass about the SEC but I do appreciate what they’ve done and unlike you Big 10 guys that can’t see the truth, I understand the difference between your excuses and the reality of the situation. Why don’t you guys go to Scout.com and do some REAL analysis and see how the SEC is kicking your butt from one end of the country to another. Unlike the Big 10, they don’t need to go outside of their footprint to get talent and no oversigning rule is ever going to change that.

  80. edgy says: Feb 9, 2011 10:10 AM

    CFT pissing contests are always edgy says:

    ***************

    1. I don’t use any aliases like you.

    2. I don’t change my screen name to show that I’m too embarrassed to use mine.

  81. edgy says: Feb 9, 2011 10:20 AM

    dkhhuey says:

    ***************

    For an idiot, you sure are stupid. I don’t hate Ohio State, I hate their fans. There’s a vast difference between the fans and the team. For example, I can admire the Packers and their organization but think that their fans are a bunch of arrogant jerks and I can say the same thing about other teams/schools. I like the Cowboys but think that Jerry Jones is a boob. Those are two different things. I guarantee you that the most hated fans here (and many other places outside of their own blogs) are the Big 10 and at the top of the list are the Suckeyes and right behind them are the Wolverweenies, who live even further in the past than the Suckeyes. I guarantee that a poll would put your guys at the top by a significant number.

    BTW, I’m NOT talking about OTHER Suckeye fans. You’ve been just as guilty as anyone for your arrogance and it’s one of the reasons why I’ve tweaked you. You guys are a joke and you’d rather divert the attention away from the story because YOU KNOW that you’ve been crapping on the SEC guys and you can’t take your own medicine. Come on, let’s see you and Ms LOL talk abuot the issues instead of trying to revert to your diversionary tactics.

  82. buckeyeboy(used to be a couple of different things) says: Feb 9, 2011 10:32 AM

    yay! Edgy made it out of his rocker to come and post on the internet :)

  83. edgy says: Feb 9, 2011 12:11 PM

    Once again, Suckeyegirl gets off her Facebook page to NOT address the issues. Talk about the issues instead of trying to be funny or lol’ing your way through life.

  84. gamustangdude says: Feb 9, 2011 1:14 PM

    @angelheartsbuckeyes

    You my friend are an idiot. Or you do a great job at playing one.

    @buckeyeboy

    I think you are more than likely 12 and female. Nothing wrong with that by the way.

    @yourfuct

    I live in Atlanta, Georgia I would love to meet you at Welcome All Park, (not given my address for obvious reasons) let’s see if you still want to pull off the “internet tough-guy” routine there.

    And if you have been watching College football for over 30 years, then you should know the SEC is not alone in “unfavorable” recruiting practices.

    @ Edgy

    We’ve had our differences in the past however I think you’ve hit the nail on the head here, multiple times.

    @rlsmit

    If i were you I would’ve stopped 40 comments ago.

  85. buckeyeboy(used to be a couple of different things) says: Feb 9, 2011 1:27 PM

    you are so bitter lol this is why we pity you lol

    and I’ll put it this way, as long as you are posting your hate for ohio state on here I will be using lol

    but by all means, I like the suckeyegirl name you wanna give me, it shows us how much you talk about young girls on facebook ;)

  86. dkhhuey says: Feb 9, 2011 2:04 PM

    @ edgy

    My god the more you post the dumber you get. Pretty soon you’ll be a total ret@rd unable to utter a single sentence of reality… oh, sorry, appears you’ve already arrived.

    I don’t hate Ohio State, I hate their fans.

    Um say this:

    “What makes me laugh about this whole oversigning argument is that the Suckeyes can afford to adhere to it because…”

    That, old senile man, is not a compliment to the university and only illustrates your hatred of it.

    Here’s another one:

    “Where did I lump every Suckeye player?”

    And another one:

    “I give the holier-than-thou Buckeyes crap”

    And these are just from this thread! Maybe in your delusional world those are compliments but in reality, they are not and you are a bitter, angry, resentful old man. Perhaps your hatred of THE Ohio State University is due to you being jilted by your boyfriend who was a grad.

  87. angelheartsbuckeyes says: Feb 9, 2011 2:40 PM

    @ gaymustangdud

    One, I am not your friend. Two, not sure how/why you think I am an idiot. Although it is common for those folks with lower IQ’s to see the world with a slightly skewed view. Comme ci, comme ca.

    @rlsmit

    I listed the years in numerical order–starting with 2010 and going backwards TEN years/seasons/games, however you cut it. South Carolina appears on the list only once. NOT TWICE. Good grief.

    As a rule I try not to engage in debates with people who have more limbs than IQ points, but for some reason you are the exception.

  88. gamustangdude says: Feb 9, 2011 2:42 PM

    Why do Buckeye Fans call it THE Ohio State University, is there another one or something? ‘Cause if we’re giving out nicknames I suggest “THE punching bag of the SEC”.

    LMAO

  89. rlsmit says: Feb 9, 2011 2:50 PM

    @Jane Blonde (00 zero)

    Riddle me this blondie, What’s 2011- 10?

    The correct answer is 2001.

    Since you’re too stupid to understand how to subtract 10, I’ll go about it a different way.

    Since 2000, Ohio State is 1-4. Debate that, blondie.

  90. rlsmit says: Feb 9, 2011 3:08 PM

    Another proof you’re stupid.

    When was the 10 year reuion of the World trade center attacks?

    by your logic it would be 2010

    1) 2001
    2) 2002
    3) 2003
    4) 2004
    5)2005
    6)2006
    7)2007
    8)2008
    9)2009
    10)2010

    However the actual year is this year (2011). IDIOT!!!!

    http://www.hamburgersstand.com/508/911-ten-years-this-september-%E2%80%93-still-many-unanswered-questions/

  91. CFT pissing contests are always edgy says: Feb 9, 2011 3:42 PM

    Its amazing how a never was like Art manages to fan one person’s hate for a particular university. Even a blacktop team like Indiana in the Big Ten doesn’t hate Ohio State as much as edgy does.

    LMAO – right, if any one buys it that edgy never uses an alias on CFT, there are several bridges around that are for sale.

    edgy is the same guy that frequently gives out instructions on how easy it is to change an alias – but absolutely would NEVER use that feature himself (watch that nose length Pinocchio).

    edgy posts since 10 AM today include 10 derogatory names and countless others in his comments before that. Comparison to a 5 year old child is pretty accurate when it comes to cutting edgy replies.

  92. southernpatriots says: Feb 9, 2011 4:50 PM

    gamustangdude: Now that it witty and funny as well! thank you, we needed that humor. A young boy died earlier today because there was no matching organ donor. Everyone out there, please check the organ donor on your driver’s license renewal, it can save a life or even more than one life. thank you again gamustangdude!

  93. buckeyeboy(used to be a couple of different things) says: Feb 9, 2011 4:59 PM

    im sorry, did you have a moment of add in that post? lol

  94. edgy says: Feb 9, 2011 5:40 PM

    Ok, more over-signing baloney is going around. As I said, in 2010, the Big 10 signed 61% of its talent from its borders and 21% from the SEC while the SEC signed 80% of its talent from within its borders. Well, 2011 was no better (and this is no ESPN conspiracy).

    In 2011, the Big 10 signed even FEWER of its players from within its borders (58.5%) while the SEC stayed home and signed 91.3% of its talent from within its borders. The Big 10 only signed 29.6% of its players from IN-STATE while the SEC signed 50.6%. Also, the average in-state talent drew 3.14 stars for the Big 10 while the SEC’s in-state talent drew 3.47. 16.2% of the Big 10 came from SEC country but was only 2.66 stars while the SEC drew only 4.7% from Big 10 country but they were worth 3.42 stars. The talent that the Big 10 drew from within its borders scored 3.07 stars while SEC talent was worth 3.35. If you break it down by every region, you’ll find that the SEC beat the Big 10 in every region except when it came to taking guys from non-AQ areas.

    Clearly, if the SEC were to stop over-signing, they’d still kick the Big 10′s butt all the way to the recruiting bank. Like it or not, they’ve got a lot more talent in their area and they want to play for their state schools. When you think about it, the average SEC school signs 3 more players than the Big 10. Are you telling me that if they signed 3 less or the Big 10 signed 3 more that the differences between these two conferences would magically disappear? Please…

  95. edgy says: Feb 9, 2011 5:59 PM

    Baby Huey, I call them the Suckeyes because of guys like you and Suckeyegirl. When a school will leave its home field to play against a tough opponent in their home stadium, I have a lot of respect for them. The problem is that y0u and the other Suckeyes would rather divert from the issues than actually talk about them because you can’t take your medicine.

  96. buckeyeboy(used to be a couple of different things) says: Feb 9, 2011 6:09 PM

    edgy are you truly stupid? What the hell does it matter where a player comes from if ppl are discussing the oversigning of players?

    if you don’t understand this I can’t understand how you have the knowledge to breathe lol

    look dude oversigning is different from where a person comes from…….please leave, no one likes you, heck even JT hasta be annoyed by your delusions lol

    Everyones out to get edgy with the thumbs! Quick get the tinfoil hats

  97. edgy says: Feb 9, 2011 6:15 PM

    CFT pissing contests are always edgy says:

    ***************

    I have used two accounts and it’s ONLY because my edgy account went bad but everyone knew that it was me because it was also edgy. I’m man enough to take my medicine if I were ever to be thrown out of here so if that happens, you’ll be happy to know that I won’t be back as anyone else unlike some of you kiddies. Oh wait, there was one other time that I posted a message here with a different name to prove a point that I could write the same message with a different name and you boobs would give it a thumbs up after you gave it a bunch of thumbs down AND you proved me correct.

    Again, boob, I don’t hate Ohio State, I HATE ITS FANS. You know, people like YOU. You may not agree but you guys are the most hated group in college football and that’s by a large margin. Ohio State fans are holier-than-thou and they can’t take their medicine but they sure as hell can dish it out AND they have to hide behind an ever growing number of aliases because they’re too embarrassed to let anyone know who they are or who they root for. Please, look at all the SEC fans here that are taking you hypocrites to task because they’re tired of your crap. It’s too bad that you guys are so embarrassed by it that you don’t actually talk about it but try to divert it so that others will forget. As I said before: Stray Classy……

  98. edgy says: Feb 9, 2011 6:24 PM

    buckeyeboy(used to be a couple of different things) says:
    edgy are you truly stupid? What the hell does it matter where a player comes from if ppl are discussing the oversigning of players?

    **************

    I would imagine that a person who knows so little about college football would say that. You boobs act as if oversigning is some kind of magic formula that gives the SEC a big advantage when only a moron would believe that. The SEC has the best talent and they want to sign with their state schools and the Big 10 knows this and they go to the SEC to find a lot of their talent but they don’t ever get the best of the talent and even if they stopped oversiging, it would NEVER happen. The number of players that the SEC oversigns isn’t enough to tip the balance to the Big 10 unless you truly are stupid enough to believe the 3 extra players would make Ohio State the equal to Florida, Alabama, LSU and Auburn. Stop crying about the fact that NO ONE of REAL TALENT wants to play in the Big 10 over the SEC. Hell, you can scream ESPN conspiracy all you want but the fact is that the NFL doesn’t give a Buckeye’s ass about that and yet, they draft a hell of a lot more SEC players than they do the Big 10. Could it be because they have the TALENT and it’s homegrown? If it didn’t matter where the players come from then why is the Big 10 all hot and heavy to try to sign SEC and Texas players? Get real.

  99. angelheartsbuckeyes says: Feb 9, 2011 6:32 PM

    @ rlsmit

    I WAS WRONG. SO SO WRONG.

    I said the golden age of SEC football was the last ten years. MY BAD. I mis-spoke. The golden age of the SEC didnt really start until 2006.

    2000 = 3-3 in bowls games
    2001 = 5-2 in bowl games
    2002 = 3-4 in bowl games
    2003 = 5-2 in bowl games
    2004 = 3-3 in bowl games
    2005 = 3-3 in bowl games
    2006 = 6-3 including an MNC against us
    2007 = 6-2 including an MNC against us
    2008 = 6-2 including an MNC
    2009 = 6-4 including an MNC
    2010 = 5-5 including an MNC (for now anyway).

    So you see, I can admit when I am wrong. The golden age of the SEC did not begin until 2006 really. Funny how UF and LSU beating tOSU in MNC’a is what started your current reign.

    David is just some dude until he slayed Goliath.

  100. angelheartsbuckeyes says: Feb 9, 2011 6:48 PM

    @ edgy

    Look, if you know as much as you claim to know about cfb then you know the game is played much differently now than it was 10 years ago. Offenses are smaller and faster. Dual threat QB’s are becoming more the norm, ect. Yes, the majority of players who fit in the more modern schemes are from the south–NOT THE SEC, THE SOUTH. The SEC is a conference–no one is pulling recruits from the SEC. There are schools in the south who are not part of the SEC.

    My point is, stop saying the B1G or anyone else is taking players from the conference, because you sound like a homerish fool, or worse a bandwagon homerish fool because we all know you love Boise.

  101. rlsmit says: Feb 9, 2011 8:23 PM

    The funny part is that you have admitted the Greatness of the SEC.

    “So you see, I can admit when I am wrong. The golden age of the SEC did not begin until 2006 really. Funny how UF and LSU beating tOSU in MNC’a is what started your current reign.”

    That’s my favorite part BTW.

  102. dkhhuey says: Feb 9, 2011 10:14 PM

    @edgy

    Again, boob, I don’t hate Ohio State, I HATE ITS FANS. You know, people like YOU.

    Right… just like that blow up doll in your closet is for CPR practice. Nice try old man but your hatred for this university is not in question since you’ve been spewing it for a long time on this site. Admitting you have that hatred and anger is the first step to maturing. As for your stupidity, well, you can’t fix stupid

  103. edgy says: Feb 9, 2011 11:43 PM

    Ok, a typo screwed up the data. Big 10 data is fine but SEC was messed up. % of in-state is 43% and % of SEC recruits from their area is 77.52%.

    Oh and Baby Huey, I guarantee you that I can’t stand you or the rest of the Suckeyes here a lot more than any so-called hatred you perceive that I have for Ohio State. Please, please, please ask the SEC people here if they like you any more than I do. I think that you’ll find that the Suckeye fans are the most hated here AND on the internet. BTW, BH, what supposed hatred that you perceive started with your tattoo 5 and the hypocrisy of you Suckeyes. I’ve had a lot of respect for the UNIVERSITY for a while because they’ve been willing to play outside of their comfort zone, unlike Florida, which I have given no small amount of grief because they won’t leave the state. Look it up.

    AngelingToBeASuckeye – Live the fantasy all you want. The best players are NOT in your area and the Pig 10 is getting beaten by leaps and bounds by the SEC when it comes to recruiting. Your own conference admits it by raiding the SEC for their SCRAPS.

    I’ve been busy with problems with my sister so don’t expect to see me answer right away.

  104. southernpatriots says: Feb 10, 2011 8:15 AM

    edgy: We understand. We are taking care of our sister and our sister in law as well. Best to you and to her!

    Just to keep in line with the topic (or rather how this blog has gone), we have made trips to every SEC university, except Kentucky, Texas, T A & M, Notre Dame, Michigan, Oklahoma, Nebraska, USC, UCLA, and many other schools over the past many decades of following college football and in particular LSU and SEC football. We expected some abuse wearing purple and gold at Ole Miss, and we received some good humored chiding but no abuse.

    Our trips to Columbus were good. The folks in Columbus outside the stadium in restaurants, parking facilities, etc. were all very cordial and helpful. The shock we received was once we entered the stadium (not just one time but twice over the period of 2 decades) the OSU fans seemed to think it was a time to abuse anyone else not wearing scarlet. Later, on the second occasion, a bottle was thrown at a member of our group and security saw the event and threw the man out. I never remember “The” used in the name back then, it must have been a more recent creation. Since OSU has numerous campuses around Ohio, what other university would be confused with it? OSU has a beautiful campus in Columbus (and we are sure in other 5 or so locations around the state), but the fans of OSU, from our experience, were the worst we have encountered, even worse than Notre Dame. Keep it classy OSU fans!

  105. edgy says: Feb 10, 2011 11:10 AM

    angelheartsbuckeyes says:

    **************

    You need to stop and think long and hard about what I’m going to say because you don’t seem to get it.

    The SEC RULES the South, just as the Big 10 rules its area. When it comes to Big 10 football, midwest high school players grow up dreaming of playing in the Big 10 and in the South, southern high school players dream of playing in the SEC. This didn’t used to be the case because the SEC didn’t recruit or want black players and many of them went to Big 10 schools until the SEC began to integrate and that’s when a lot of things shifted toward them. With their best talent staying home, the SEC began to grow and become more prominent nationally and it hurt the Big 10 and over the years, the Big 10 has had to rely more on its talent while the SEC has tapped its fertile talent grounds and risen to where it is now. You can believe that location has nothing to do with recruiting but it’s why the Pac-12 North schools WANTED to have Stanford and Cal in their divisions so they can make yearly trips to northern and southern California because that’s where the most talent is in their region. It’s why the Big 10 keeps heading to SEC country to find recruits, even if they’re the 2 stars that probably would never get offers except at Vanderbilt. Go to Scout.com and look up the classes for the past 10 years and then compare the ones that went to the pros with where they went to high school AND college and you’ll find that even the NFL wants to tap into that SEC talent. You can say that it’s southern and not SEC until you’re blue in the face but it IS SEC talent and they want to play for their state schools more than they want to play for others. Heck, some of the best talent in Oklahoma is in Tulsa and the surrounding area BUT they don’t want to play for their city school, the University of Tulsa but aspire to play for the Oklahoma Sooners. You could come down here and offer all the scholarships in the world to Ohio State and unless they don’t get an offer from the Sooners, you have NO chance of signing any of the top recruits and neither does Tulsa. Do you think that the Pac-12 and Big-10 wanted Texas because of their winning smiles or the fact that they think that it would give them a chance at some of the scraps that the Longhorns aren’t able to sign? Missouri, under Pinkel, has signed a lot of guys from Texas because they knew that they could make at least one trip a year back home but he’ll most likely see that pipeline close down if the Tigers leave the Big 12.

    Stop the over-signing and the ACC may end up having an easier time picking up the guys that don’t get signed by the SEC but it won’t help the Big 10 with their talent. They haven’t been rated 4th and lower because there’s an ESPN bias at Scout or Rivals, it’s because they just don’t have the talent in their area and the SEC high school players want to play for their state OR conference (and it doesn’t hurt that they won’t have to play in the cold).

  106. southernpatriots says: Feb 10, 2011 1:00 PM

    edgy: your last entry specified to angelheartsbuckeyes is one of the best explanations of what is now the dominance of the SEC over the Big 10 and ACC in terms of recruiting, BCS championships, etc. All of us born and raised in the South, raised our children and now to a lesser degree our grandchildren, served our country, educated as many as wanted an education, treated many injured and ill, traveled all around the world both in the military and after, there is no better place we know to live than the South and are very thankful that the days of discrimination that once existed here are no more. The talent we see in the high schools all around the South (and we include the great high school system in Texas as well) from which the SEC colleges can easily recruit. Try recruiting a championship high school football player to play for any other university than their home university and you’re wasting alot of time. Every once in a while another SEC university with a better team or better opening at the time for his position (e.g. Alabama, Auburn) can get the athlete. It is very seldom that any Big 10 team can hope to get a 3 star or greater football player from any Southern high school.

  107. buckeyeboy(used to be a couple of different things) says: Feb 10, 2011 3:23 PM

    “we” buckeyeboy here find the southernpatriots clan very annoying

    from rambling posts to a.d.d. thoughts, i am confused as to who these southernpartiots folks are?

    do you maybe have a split personality, is that your issue?

  108. southernpatriots says: Feb 10, 2011 3:35 PM

    buckeyeboy: We (even for OSU grads or in your case OSU fans) means plural, more than one, as we are: more than one person, more than one veteran, more than one educator, more than one fan. Do you have a problem with the truth, or are you just stupid, the worst example of a buckeye fan, or just as dumb as the tree?

  109. buckeyeboy(used to be a couple of different things) says: Feb 10, 2011 3:42 PM

    Im confused as to why you have one account then, i have literally never heard of people sharing internet accounts

    why not make more than one?

  110. angelheartsbuckeyes says: Feb 10, 2011 4:04 PM

    @ everyone

    Word of the day: CYCLICAL.

    Who said the SEC is not the best conference right now? Ignoring that fact is as ignorant as ignoring the accomplishments of tOSU. The game as changed–the best players for this evolution of college football are in the SOUTH, not the SEC–again, the SEC is not a university, a region of the country or a religion. It is a football conference. Period. And a pretty dang good one right now. Again, the south has the best players for this type of football. When it was smashmouth, run heavy, three yards and a cloud of dust football, who really gave a flip about read options or hybrid players? Of course local players want to play for local colleges–you act as though that is some kind of accomplishment. I think more admirable is that there are a fair amount of kids who have offers from these southern schools and choose to play up north. In the cold. Outside. I mean, is it really notable that the SEC gets the majority of their players from the south? Really?

    As far as fans go, I live in an area that is pretty central to 6-7 SEC schools. You have classy fans, you have not-so-classy fans just as EVERY school in EVERY conference. I can tell you I dont hold every single UF fan responsible for carving 41-14 into my car’s paint job–and they WON that game, imagine if it had been a loss? There is a fringe base in EVERY sport.

    @ edgy
    We have sparred on this sight in the past. I just want to say I think you are an amazing person for what you do for your sister. The problem is that guy rarely comes out in your posts. You are filled with so much vitreol towards the Buckeyes and so fueled with negativity towards any one of their fans, a lot of us wont waste our time valuing what you say on any topic. I know you say you dont care, maybe you dont, but no one who does what you do for your sister can be the douche-bag you portray yourself to be on these boards. God bless.

  111. dkhhuey says: Feb 10, 2011 11:45 PM

    @edgy – glad to see you were finally able to bail your sister out of jail and get back to posting your stupidity

  112. edgy says: Feb 14, 2011 2:46 PM

    Baby Huey, this is the jail that my sister is in now. My mom died of a stroke in 2001, want to make fun of her, too?

  113. duckman62 says: Feb 14, 2011 4:48 PM

    I am not an OSU fan in any way (Go Ducks!), but I see this story and have read the posts, and I sit back and wonder just how an alum’s gambling habit is a reflection on that schools reputation? His gambling is a disease and I am positive that the school wasn’t forcing him to make bets while he was at the school playing for them on Saturdays. It just strikes me as sad, that people would associate his sickness with Ohio State in any way. I’m sure if you look hard enough, you will find every college in America has a few felons on their books, but that doesn’t say anything, in any way, about those schools and their moral values. It just means that a few bad apples got an education, but decided to throw it away because of bad judgement on the individuals part. Get a grip folks and stop chasing the elusive pink dragon!

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