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Cowherd: ‘Major program to be outed for major recruiting violations’

Chip Kelly, Gene Chizik

Earlier today, an Alabama radio host continued his interview onslaught by reiterating claims that, based on audio tapes he’s heard, Auburn and Tennessee offered a sizable chunk of change to the father of Cam Newton in order to secure the now-former Tiger quarterback’s services.

Apparently, another major college football program is on the verge of being “outed” for allegedly committing significant recruiting violations.

On his ESPN radio program Tuesday afternoon — the 30:00 mark in this clip – Colin Cowherd tap-danced around rumors that we’ve been hearing for the past few days, that a top-10 program will be the subject of an, for lack of a better word, exposé by a very recognizable media entity in the coming days.  Here’s Cowherd’s minute-long monologue on what would be a seismic development if proven true:

I received an interesting text about 10 days ago, and this should be very frightening if you’re a fan of college football, that a major program in this country is going to be outed very soon for major recruiting violations.  It is a top 10-12 program. I know what I think it is according to both my sources; I received another tip last night.  I went to Vince Doria, who is sort of the journalistic editor at this company.  He had heard the exact same thing.  We are pursuing this story with vigor.  A major publication is about to unseat a major college football power on recruiting violations.  I will tell you from my source, it is not — it is not — Auburn.  I will leave it at that.  It is a major program and a major publication.  When we can validate more… I have not been able to validate it nor has this company.  We’re both pursuing it.

Shortly after Cowherd’s words hit the airwaves, John Canzano of The Oregonian was contacted by, he writes, “several national college football writers after those early rumors began to point at the University of Oregon being that program.”  An Oregon source denied they are the football program in question.

Made some calls. A reliable source high in the athletic department said everyone there was “surprised” to hear about the rumors. They have not been contacted by the NCAA on this matter, nor anyone else.

Said source: “We haven’t heard a peep from the NCAA. If there was something going on, we’d typically hear about it way beforehand.”

Ducks coach Chip Kelly said he was also unaware of any violations. Kelly attributed the rumors to the program’s recent national success. Said Kelly, “We’re going to have to endure some of this.”

For the record, Oregon is not the school we have heard connected to these rumors.  Nor is it Auburn.  Nor will we mention the school’s name we’ve heard floated around as it’s not been remotely confirmed.

Suffice to say, though, it’s going to be a very interesting next week or so around the [school redacted] campus if the rumors come to fruition and the allegations that are currently making the rounds are published.

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103 Responses to “Cowherd: ‘Major program to be outed for major recruiting violations’”
  1. patsfan2882 says: Mar 1, 2011 8:54 PM

    Florida

  2. pff says: Mar 1, 2011 9:05 PM

    he said top 10-12 program. Florida is a top 3-5 overall program in Cowherd’s eyes. he has said so many times

  3. drreece8 says: Mar 1, 2011 9:11 PM

    LSU

  4. thefiesty1 says: Mar 1, 2011 9:13 PM

    Tennessee (and Kiffin). Any sanctions should follow the coach. Sorry USC, more trouble to follow.

  5. twopartsrye says: Mar 1, 2011 9:16 PM

    He sounded like he was about to cry. I’m guessing that the love of his life, Lane Kiffen is about to get busted for his year at Tennessee.

  6. minibull says: Mar 1, 2011 9:22 PM

    If they are talking about a top 10-12 program the past few years, they aren’t talking about UT (as much as it pains me). Now it would not surprise me at all if Kiffen and his caged ape Orgeron got caught doing more under the table stuff this past year at USC…

  7. jaggedmark says: Mar 1, 2011 9:28 PM

    Word is already filtering throughout Oregon that it’s their school. Lots of concern from fans.

  8. jaggedmark says: Mar 1, 2011 9:32 PM

    They’ll hear from the ncaa just as soon as the national publication states its case. U can bet on that.

  9. frug says: Mar 1, 2011 9:37 PM

    Florida is the obvious choice since it would explain Meyer’s somewhat abrupt departure (think Pete Carroll jumping to the Seahawks just before the NCAA brought down the hammer on USC) but I doubt Muschamp would have given up his position as head coach in waiting at Texas if he thought there was even a chance of sanctions coming to the Gators. I also doubt it’s LSU since I can’t imagine Myles passing on his dream job, or LSU giving him a new contract, if he/they thought he was going to get busted. Just for fun I’ll throw out Michigan just because A) it could explain why Myles staid and B) I really want it to be Michigan.

  10. goduckyourself says: Mar 1, 2011 9:51 PM

    Being a Duck fans when this story broke I flipped out… Now that being said it wouldn’t shock me if agents and AAU start to get involved with kids and potentially funnel kids to Oregon…. After all we have pulled a lot of kids out of Texas… I am not nieve.. This stuff happens at every university that has been mentioned… But I wouldn’t be shocked if the folks down in Troy are starting these rumors or they are coming from somebody down south who is pissed we stole a commitment #goducks

  11. jaggedmark says: Mar 1, 2011 9:57 PM

    Just tweeted from SportsbyBrooks

    SportsbyBrooks- TCU football fans are in for a pleasant surprise tomorrow. All I can say.

    DOES THAT MEAN IT COULD BE TEXAS?!?

  12. axltcu says: Mar 1, 2011 9:57 PM

    As a TCU fan I’m freaking out cause right before I read this I read that TCU will be making a major announcement tomorrow…

  13. jaggedmark says: Mar 1, 2011 9:58 PM

    Texas is certainly a top 10 program, regardless of last year. They’re probably the #1 fb program.

  14. frug says: Mar 1, 2011 10:02 PM

    @jaggedmark

    I actually thought about that (it could help explain Muschamp’s departure) but I just have a tough time envisioning UT taking the risk. Given the massive amount of structural advantages they have over literally every other school in college football (mostly money and local talent) it is tough to imagine them feeling the need to get involved in “major recruiting violations” (but I’ve been wrong before).

  15. weswelkerspornstash says: Mar 1, 2011 10:06 PM

    Its Kiffin.

    Frug: It’s Miles

    C’mon man

  16. jsarge99 says: Mar 1, 2011 10:09 PM

    I’m excited. I hope it’s tcu, I like when religious people do bad things. And tcu makes slot of sense, maybe that’s why the coach doesn’t want to leave?

  17. joerevs300 says: Mar 1, 2011 10:14 PM

    Well let’s take a look shall we?

    1 Auburn

    - Since they’ve been ruled out, this is at zero

    2 TCU

    - I’d be really surprised if it was them but it’s not out of the realm of possibility

    3 Oregon

    - Because they are ruled out, not them

    4 Stanford

    - Not a chance I would think.

    5 Ohio State

    - Maybe the sweater vest is doing a little more than winning fair…still I’d say it’s a small chance

    6 Oklahoma

    - I wouldn’t think it would be them either

    7 Wisconsin

    - I don’t think any of the Big 10 teams would be the team, that doesn’t mean they aren’t doing shady things…

    8 LSU

    - This is the other red flag team for me. Seems like the SEC gets all the talent…some SOMETHING has to give, and that something is probably illegal.

    9 Boise State

    - Not a chance in the world.

    10 Alabama

    - Hmm…Nick Saban would NEVER do anything illegal, right?

    Other teams to consider…

    - Florida, Texas (who was top 10 the previous year), Tennessee

  18. drozman says: Mar 1, 2011 10:16 PM

    If TCU is going to be happy…and it is indeed a shocker, it may be Boise St. Why not? Why would anyone voluntarily go to Boise? An SEC school wouldn’t be a shocker and the NCAA would never want to rock the Nike cash boat at Oregon. Maybe Texas had a lot of trouble holding onto assistant coaches for a reason.

  19. thefiesty1 says: Mar 1, 2011 10:31 PM

    It could be Texas with all the coaching exodus but I don’t think so. Something certainly happened last season with all the top recruits and getting such poor results. I still think it’s the other UT. However, that UT hasn’t been a top 10 team lately.

  20. frug says: Mar 1, 2011 10:34 PM

    It sure is. I guess I’ll have to give myself a thumbs down for that post.

  21. drozman says: Mar 1, 2011 11:17 PM

    On second thought, if TCU is going to be pleasantly surprised and the team in question is familiar with Southern Cal… Who tweaked TCU with a BS come back to our place and play since you beat us in…SoCal. Maybe it is the top 12ish Badgers. If you don’t mind trying to score 100 against Indiana you’d likely have no problem with a few recruiting shenanigans. Wisconsin?

  22. overratedgators says: Mar 1, 2011 11:36 PM

    Well, duh. Could they be any more transparent about this? Read between the lines, folks: it’s obvious that [program] has been flouting the rules for years. [Coach] and [booster] committed multiple violations, most recently with their recruitment of [player], [player] and [player]. And if the NCAA doesn’t jump all over the fact that they [redacted violation], it will be a miracle.

  23. pricecube says: Mar 1, 2011 11:53 PM

    I am surprised so many people think it is TCU. We had our first top 25 recruiting class ever this year. If we were committing recruiting violations in the past it sure was not paying out in a bunch of five or even four stars. 2011 was our highest rated class to date. It had two four stars and ton of three stars.

  24. Dug says: Mar 2, 2011 12:59 AM

    Sometimes I wish I did not pay attention to college football. This is one of those times. I have read with total amazement some of the comments here. Let me get to the point or points:

    1. Lane Kiffin is brash, cocky and arrogant at times but not insane. Pat Haden is smart, quick and savvy. There were no further violations at USC. No one there is that full of hubris or that stupid.

    2. It is not Tennessee. Not a top tier program anymore.

    3. TCU has never had a top recruiting class. They get the best out of everyone due to the coaching and system used there.

    4. Boise State? You have got to be kidding me.

    5. Stanford? Really? There is no way to fake your way into this school to play football. Your grades are spot on or you are not. Anyone smart enough to go to Stanford is smart enough to recognize and avoid the shenanigans. They go there for the education, football is secondary.

    6. University of Texas. The Longhorns. Biggest football entity in Texas. No pressure here for Mack Brown. Right? Assistants leave in droves. Program takes a severe downturn for no apparent reason with top ten talent all over the depth chart. This smacks of trouble. The kids know something is up, effort slides downhill. The coaches know too, so their hearts are heavy with worry and not focused on football, they are focused on survival.

    In my mind, the Longhorns are the top contender.

    Of course there are others such as Alabama, Florida, Oregon, LSU and Michigan (even though the Wolverines are not presently a top ten team).

  25. dapell says: Mar 2, 2011 1:50 AM

    Does top10-12 mean last year or historically? Most people would say Notre Dame, Georgia, Florida State, Miami, Michigan, and Nebraska are top10-12 programs even though they didn’t finish there. Most people’s top10-12 would probably have 15-17 teams too if you just started rattling off a list of teams and asking if they were a top10 team.

    The other tidbit we’ve heard from other sources teasing this story is that “It’s not a program you’d suspect,” and it will be a “shocker.”

    Personally, I think tOSU has proven it’s dirty more than once, and before I heard that they were my #1 guess. Clarrett and 2 other former Buckeyes previously told reporters funny stuff was up there in the mid-2000′s, but NCAA investigators decided they weren’t credible. Then there was Troy Smith taking money, then Pryor’s corvette, then all those players selling stuff… That’s a culture of compliance OSU is promoting. They’re so obviously one of the top 2-3 schools you’d think of, they don’t fit the “shocker” definition.

    Darkhorse in all this is Notre Dame imo. They’re not a top10-12 program in ranking, but if you’re talking about a ranking of football programs they’re top 5. There’s been a lot of pressure on Kelly to perform and he had a nice recruiting class this year. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if we found they were greasing the skids. If any school has alumni desperate for national prominence it’s ND. New coach, a few alumni slipping a top prospect or two some cash with someone on the coaching staff aware of it, major violations.

    Under the same theory of “Top 10-12 programs of all time” Michigan could be in the mix, but the NCAA just slapped them with sanctions over practicing too many hours and WVU is being investigated for the same infractions. Plus, Michigan’s recruiting has been horrible. It’s not like they had top-10 classes despite a 2-win season. It wouldn’t be a surprise.

    Likely programs based on top10-12 AND not one you’d expect… Texas, Florida, Notre Dame, Oregon, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Georgia, Florida State. I just can’t see TCU or Boise State being a shocker to anyone. If anything it would be an “ah ha” type thing. “So that’s why they’ve been so good.”

  26. jjay9 says: Mar 2, 2011 5:48 AM

    I think that if TCU is going to be happy, it would be Ohio State. What did Waldo call them? Sisters of the Poor?

  27. scardino says: Mar 2, 2011 9:51 AM

    I have to say that it sounds as if the story is being hyped up. I’m not saying that it isn’t a big story, but it sounds as if details are being exaggerated for that “Don’t touch that dial!” effect.

    Note the hyperbole in Cowherd’s speech:

    “this should be very frightening if you’re a fan of college football”

    This creates the it could be your school vibe.

    “It is a top 10-12 program.”

    Why didn’t he just say it is a top 10 school? Why didn’t he say it is a top 12 school? It is because the ‘ranking’ he is judging this off of is probably not BCS rankings but rather a subjective personal opinion based ranking of traditional super powers.

    There are some things we can safely assume.

    1. This school was not necessarily ranked in the top 10 or even the top 15 last year or even the year before. They are a relevant force, though.
    2. Since this is a news publication that will be doing the ‘outing’, not the NCAA, the school may not have any idea it is coming.
    3. The news publications put together their stories with investigative journalism which mainly consists of interviews. Head coaches and athletic directors, obviously, are not going to sit down long enough to answer questions like, “Where were you January 27, 2004 at 3:45 pm?” The information came from interns, former players, staff, and former assistant coaches. Guys at or around this level probably saw this freight train coming from a mile away.
    4. Unexpected. This team is not already under investigation or being punished. This team doesn’t seem like they would “need” to commit violations or the school seems morally incapable of committing violations.

  28. alligatorsnapper says: Mar 2, 2011 9:59 AM

    This could be interesting. Rumors are flying. Good guesses are Florida, Oregon, and (frug is funny with Michigan though his reasoning has some merit) Notre Dame. Sorry, drreece8, it won’t be LSU. We hope it is not even in the SEC but it is definitely possible, though we don’t think it will be. A good speculation piece in the midst of slow college football news. Can’t wait until real college football news is happening! This speculation stuff….ugh.

  29. lucky5927 says: Mar 2, 2011 10:08 AM

    What about a team like Oklahoma State?? They already have had some minor issues and have established themselves as a top 10-12 program. The fact they included the 11th and 12th spot as part of the 10-12 team (as opposed to a top 10) means that it is probably not many of the teams listed above. I say Florida, Oklahoma State, Florida State, Virginia Tech, LSU, or Ohio State (even though they tend to finish higher, the recent issues cloud the program) would be my guesses.

  30. 78lion says: Mar 2, 2011 10:25 AM

    Stated it would be a school that brings surprise to the reaction. Not an SEC school; not a Big 10 school.

    Think burnt orange!!

  31. scardino says: Mar 2, 2011 10:28 AM

    Unless it was Florida’s recruitment of Tim Tebow, I doubt it was Florida. If it was, the Tebow bit sends the “unexpected” factor into outer orbit. No other factors matter.

  32. burntorangehorn says: Mar 2, 2011 10:51 AM

    Really, you guys think it’s Texas? Mack Brown categorically refuses to recruit any player who even hints at an illegal benefit, hires a street agent, or is borderline academically.

  33. y2cale says: Mar 2, 2011 11:07 AM

    I bet my last dollar it’s SMU……………..AGAIN.

  34. sportsfanatic1 says: Mar 2, 2011 11:24 AM

    It’s not Texas. There is a reason Mack Brown doesn’t offer and at times even invite certain blue chip recruits in the State of TX to a junior day. A pattern has been developing for a while now. It is not as simple as schools like Oregon being able to pull some good recruits from the state of Texas due to their success. Normally if a blue chip didn’t head to UT, they would go to OU who is also very successful, but these particular kids aren’t even going to OU. Stoops doesn’t seem to be playing the street agent game either. More than just Oregon seems to be involved though and it’s sad because it looks like they will be the ones being made an example of. Sports by Brooks stated that ESPN sources confirmed to him that Oregon is the school that was hinted at. If you want to know why Oregon is being targeted, just read this article http://recruitocosm.fantake.com/2010/12/10/street-agents-in-texas-some-new-competition-for-will-lyles/

  35. apac6586 says: Mar 2, 2011 11:43 AM

    burntorangehorn says: Mar 2, 2011 10:51 AM

    Really, you guys think it’s Texas? Mack Brown categorically refuses to recruit any player who even hints at an illegal benefit, hires a street agent, or is borderline academically.

    Apparently you’ve never heard of Vince Young.

  36. ihatendirsh says: Mar 2, 2011 12:17 PM

    Its the scumbags at Notre Dame. I know it! It has to be! You can see them finally letting out what scumbags are there and how corrupt they are with them letting the death of a student go and the rape of a girl by one of their overrated football players go. This will just prove how much more disgusting that these corrupt people are at this overrated irrelevant school and I cant wait to see this place RUINED. I hope its them. I KNOW ITS THEM AND I COMPLETLY AND UTTER LOVE IT! GO SPARTANS ND SUCKS!

  37. tmb333 says: Mar 2, 2011 12:19 PM

    If ESPN is doing the outing, I doubt it is Texas since they just set-up their network.

  38. seanmmartin says: Mar 2, 2011 12:29 PM

    It has to be Utah or Boise State…

  39. ihatendirsh says: Mar 2, 2011 12:30 PM

    the two loseres that voted my comment down are ND loser fans that wont admit they suck and are menaiglness

  40. scardino says: Mar 2, 2011 12:36 PM

    Keep in mind that Oregon saying they have not been notified by NCAA or anybody of violations is irrelevant. A news publication is not going to notify someone before they run an expose on them.

  41. burntorangehorn says: Mar 2, 2011 12:56 PM

    apac6586 says:
    Mar 2, 2011 11:43 AM

    Apparently you’ve never heard of Vince Young.
    ==============================
    I have indeed. Did you know that he wasn’t borderline academically? He qualified for NCAA eligibility with the clearinghouse with zero issues, and if you’re referencing his supposed Wonderlic score, you’re ignoring follow ups

  42. smilelikechicago says: Mar 2, 2011 1:37 PM

    Since we are picking words for clues, I’ll throw in my two cents.
    He said the word “outed,” a vague word that could be construed as strongly as “death penalty” as SMU endured. If so, that would narrow the list to schools who have come close to that already.
    The “surprise” was Oregon people hearing rumor that it was them: no one said that the offending program would be a surprise. (Anyway, this would lead to a paradox like the unexpected hanging).

  43. BC says: Mar 2, 2011 1:49 PM

    Alabama.

  44. ihatendirsh says: Mar 2, 2011 2:03 PM

    why are we even discussing this we all know its notre dame they let the rape of girl go unnoticed. Who else here cant wait to see them fall even further! ND SUCKS!

  45. wyofootballfan says: Mar 2, 2011 2:15 PM

    When they say “outed” do they mean like what they did to USC or what? They make it sound huge, like a school will lose a football program. which i know sounds far fetched

  46. stairwayto7 says: Mar 2, 2011 2:22 PM

    Texas, Bama or Ohio State

  47. TxGrown says: Mar 2, 2011 2:26 PM

    Lane Kiffin….Tennessee

  48. TxGrown says: Mar 2, 2011 2:27 PM

    Lane Kiffin….Tennessee. Who else?

  49. thefiesty1 says: Mar 2, 2011 2:30 PM

    Look, it’s been over 17 hours since this original post and over 40 comments and biased opinions. So, how about an update and stop all this speculation since everyone seems to KNOWS who it is.

  50. whatever82 says: Mar 2, 2011 2:44 PM

    For it’s worth…here’s what Sport by Brooks said on Twitter earlier today….

    Mult. ESPN sources have now verified to me Cowherd was referencing Oregon as school to be ‘outed very soon for major recruiting violations’

    If Oregon is about to be “outed” I’m guessing they aren’t going to say yeah we know it’s coming. We’ll have a press release at 5.

  51. spoiledcajun says: Mar 2, 2011 2:48 PM

    Relax ppl it’s not my LSU Tigers,hahaha. If you use your brains you’ll know it’s Auburn and Mississippi along with Tennessee. Tennessee gets hit because of Kiffin’s snaf faux pas and the other 2 get hit cause of Cam Scam. For a bunch of guys you sure don’t see the entire picture: it takes a female to point things out to you,hehehehehe.

  52. intergalacticbronco says: Mar 2, 2011 3:03 PM

    @jaggedmark,
    @drozman,
    @jjay9

    I think the program in question is Auburn. SportsByBrooks alludes to having audio evidence of Cecil Newton soliciting funds from those two schools and Cam Newton being completely aware of it.

    My guess is that SportsByBrooks is claiming TCU will be happy due to the veracity of the claims (again, supposedly supported by audio evidence) and, one assumes, the stripping of Auburn of their BCS championship and handing it instead to TCU which was #2 in the final polls.

  53. fathugo says: Mar 2, 2011 3:23 PM

    The SportsByBrooks twitter comments were about the SI/CBS crime in college football investigation. TCU was the only top 25 program to not have a player with a police record.

  54. lakesidegator says: Mar 2, 2011 3:31 PM

    Alabama…again.

  55. 78lion says: Mar 2, 2011 3:39 PM

    It is someone that will surprise you!!

    Would any of you be surprised if it were:

    Lane Kiffen at UT
    Bama or the rest of the SEC west
    USC?

    If you would be surprised, you don’t follow college football.

    It isn’t anyone in the SEC.
    It isn’t anyone in the Big 10

  56. theRichardofCFT says: Mar 2, 2011 3:40 PM

    @intergalacticbronco

    Well I guess you missed the tiny little tidbit that said…

    “A major publication is about to unseat a major college football power on recruiting violations. I will tell you from my source, it is not — it is not —Auburn.”

    BTW Even if it was Auburn the BCS title would more than likely go to Oregon who, PLAYED AUBURN FOR THE TITLE, idiot!!

    (Though I think if NCAA did strip Auburn of the mNC, the BCS title would just be vacated)

  57. jaggedmark says: Mar 2, 2011 3:57 PM

    No news to update on this, John? This is my favorite rumor out there.

  58. roltyd says: Mar 2, 2011 4:05 PM

    @ theRichardofCFT

    That was an awfully crude remark, you must’ve had a terrible childhood to call someone you don’t even know an “idiot”.

    Anyway, despite the above’s reasoning, I believe it SHOULD be Auburn (look at my nametag). They went from a nowhere recruiting school, to a top five TOO fast. Because of their recent recruiting attempts and successes, it also could be:

    Notre Dame
    North Carolina
    Arkansas
    Georgia
    Florida State

    The last school would be a disappointment, as I like Jimbo Fisher an awful lot. But they got a great class very quickly! To all you Sabanhaters, sorry to burst your bubble. He’s a micro-manager, and will not let this program go down that dangerous path.

  59. edgy says: Mar 2, 2011 4:12 PM

    I realize that there are a lot of Kiffin haters here but really, just how far do you have to stretch the definition of “Top 10-12″ to get it to fit Kiffin’s time at Tennessee and I doubt that it would have anything to do with what he’s done at USC.

  60. tigersgeaux says: Mar 2, 2011 4:13 PM

    roltyd: Your reasoning is sound. I hope it is not an SEC school. It seems there has been so much controversy and drama already. All the LSU Tiger faithful (like my dad and all) like Jimbo Fisher alot too. We were sorry to see him go. From the perspective of all who knew Saban when he was in Baton Rouge you are correct about him being a micro-manager as well. He wants to know and keeps his hands on every aspect of the program. If we had to choose any team out of those you listed, we would choose Notre Dame.

  61. bumpa52 says: Mar 2, 2011 4:22 PM

    Derailed at de Tressel….

  62. sportsfanatic1 says: Mar 2, 2011 4:25 PM

    Screw whoever down voted my last comment. LOL Sensitive folks on here. Anyway, if it’s not Oregon, could be UT (Tenn). There seems to be smoke surrounding them right now as well – something about offering Cam money. I didn’t think it would be UT (Texas) or an SEC school before because of who is behind those schools financially, but there is just too much smoke around Auburn, Miss St, and Tenn. right now. If it’s not Auburn, then the only other top 10-12 program it may be is Tenn. Miss State is not a top ten program. Anyway, it’s been going around the web that those tapes of the Preacher Man asking for $$ really do exist and the NCAA has had them since last Jan. What recruiting violation is bigger than paying for players? If they offered one player, they’ve offered more. I know people joke about Brown leaving once Kiffin left because he took a pay cut. Maybe that’s all true. Who knows though? It’s the off season and we need something to talk about. Last year it was conference realignment, this year it’s this.

  63. thejjtrain says: Mar 2, 2011 4:27 PM

    My money is on O$U.
    The “Little Sisters” shall have their revenge.

  64. tigersgeaux says: Mar 2, 2011 4:35 PM

    sportsfanatic1: oh, for conference realignment again!

  65. sportsfanatic1 says: Mar 2, 2011 4:53 PM

    LOL If I’m being honest there aren’t too many top ten programs I would be suprised at that may be cheating except maybe Florida State and tOSU. I am suspicious of how FSU managed to bring in the top ranked class after so much suckage. tOSU just doesn’t bring in as many big bluechip recruits as other programs. Schools like USC, UF, and UT (Texas) shouldn’t have to cheat. They are in recruiting hotbeds and are still riding off of the success of the titles they’ve won, or title games they’ve appeared in.

  66. quackattack69 says: Mar 2, 2011 5:00 PM

    If this is it I would not worry the OKLAHOMA SOONERS is the final jeopardy answer. http://bit.ly/h26Dqj … I do not know but it seems trivial to me. That’s broadcasters for you. Having been in the business for 21 years … that’s what we do…stir up trouble where there is none.

  67. roltyd says: Mar 2, 2011 5:07 PM

    tigersgeaux1: Its uncanny how we think alike! My affinity for Coach Fisher goes back to 2003, when he coached with Nick. My oldest son went to LSU then, and marched in the Golden Band from Tigerland. Even though I am a huge Bama fan, I have devloped a “love” for the Tigahs! Frankly, my son fit there like a glove, an I saw that and chose to drink the purple and gold Kool-Aid. Mmmm, Good! I got a kick outta Jimbo when he went to FSU, thoguh, because he said even though he loved his time @ LSU, he would never work with Nick again because he was an 18-hour-a-day workaholic, and Jimbo knew he could go elsewhere, be successful and NOT have to work as hard, lol!

    Even though I bleed crimson, my love for B.R. will never leave! And, I will be going to B.R. soon to root for those baseball Tigahs real soon!

    Geaux Tigers and RTR!!!

  68. downhillrider says: Mar 2, 2011 5:10 PM

    does it really matter who it is? College Football for the most part is corrupt. It starts with the NCAA and the College Presidents and the sponsors of the BCS.

    if the NCAA wouldnt punish Auburn for the whole Cam Newton and his dad stuff what makes anyone else think they will do anything than a slap on the wrist to Oregon/Tenn or FLorida (insert any top program over the years, sadly my miami hurricanes dont fall in that category).

  69. roltyd says: Mar 2, 2011 5:12 PM

    BTW, Cowherd is a Cow-nerd!! He even calls himself a geek! He and Finebaum (Finedumn) are true sh*t starters. Finedumb waffles so much from one team to another, he would make a good politician. My guess is that Colin would, as well.

  70. tigersgeaux says: Mar 2, 2011 6:00 PM

    rldtyd: We truly have much respect for Saban, though we were miffed to see him go to the NFL and leave BR. He was indeed a workaholic and still is. No one outworks him, no one out micro-manages him either! ha. I am from a family on both sides which are purple and gold back to the late 1930s, a couple of years after the BR campus was dedicated. We have truly been blessed to have some of the best coaches and best men and women to be coaches that we could ever have dreamed of. Speaking of baseball, that is another area of great blessing. We love Skip Bertman, now soon to retire from his emeritus status as the AD. We have another great one in Mainieri and with the new Alex Box it is a great venue to enjoy baseball.

  71. quackattack69 says: Mar 2, 2011 6:04 PM

    Hey, don’t put my Ducks in there just because they flew high into the ship against high priced players. (I am gonna hear crap for that one…) Sorry Auburn fans…I am over it. I will get to my point. Millions on top of millions is made by these individual football programs. The NCAA says you cannot give the kids “free” cologne without remuneration from said student. I say it’s time to pay the kids for risking their limbs in the name of football and dollar bills for the college. It will certainly offset some of the greed. I’m not talking millions per student…just a living amount per term that needs not be paid back with a lower and upper cap that cannot be exceeded monetarily. That is where the NCAA comes in…that and property/any loophole violation/drug testing/and such. There is just too much money for NCAA amateurism. Money is involved so there will always be some graft…but for gods sake, help the kids that are playing their guts out and making the Alma Maters millions for pride…just pride!

  72. theRichardofCFT says: Mar 2, 2011 6:05 PM

    @roltyd

    Well if you think only people with troubled childhoods call other people “idiots” maybe you truly do fit the title.

    ND has been a National College Football Icon, no need for dirty recruiting.

    Georgia, since the Richt era, has always had a great recruiting class,

    I wouldn’t suspect Florida State; however we can’t forget the Bowden Family history.

    Alabama went from a 7-6 team to a 12-2 and then 14-0; my money would be on Alabama with Saban over the 5 schools you’ve mentioned. (Saban At LSU, 3-8 team to a 10-3 team over 2 seasons)

    I honestly don’t think it is Alabama / LSU or that Saban is involved, however I’m using your flawed logic above.

  73. stairwayto7 says: Mar 2, 2011 6:16 PM

    Knowing this is comign from an ESPN source, it will probably be false yet again and wil be a team like Mississippi State, Arizona Satae or North Carolina who is busted!

  74. silverdeer says: Mar 2, 2011 7:08 PM

    Once this comes out, I just hope that the NCAA gives the death penalty to themselves. That way we can get on with the Superconferences and a Football Playoff.

  75. redguard117 says: Mar 2, 2011 7:21 PM

    This is my take. I highly doubt its Florida, Ohio State or Texas. Why? Because most of these teams recruits come from within the state. I may be biased as an Ohio State fan, but you would assume the team also consistently gets top 5 classes (which Ohio State doesn’t; ie, #22 last year, usually in the mid teens). Texas is unlikely because all their talent is in-state and signs up early. Florida MIGHT be a possibility but then Muschamp would not have taken the job.

    It would have to be a national recruiter or a team that generally doesn’t do well but gets great recruits anyway. Anywhere Kiffin has gone seems fair game, as does Bama (to a degree) and Clemson especially (although they’re not a top 10 team usually). I still don’t understand how Clemson gets such great players.

    Michigan would be a possibility if Rich Rod was still there

  76. irishfan1107 says: Mar 2, 2011 7:31 PM

    AND DONT SAY ITS MY IRISH, they probably have the cleanest program running out there, they are sooooo strict in their athletics, the worst thing done by the irish athletic program is maybe a drug charge or to thrown in the swing of things, youre saying they ignored the sexual assault case? first off the athletics department wouldnt deal with that, they got a call saying she was sexual assaulted by a football player, do you see how vague that accusation is, they looked into it and the man on the team grabbed her breast which is against notre dames strict policies and the family of seeberg decided not to press charges, and declan sullivan was a freak accident, that the university handeled perfectly they took full responsibility and the family knew it and once again pressed no charges, were clean we dont need nasty tactics to get these players…

  77. irishfan1107 says: Mar 2, 2011 7:41 PM

    Im guessing Ohio State, Texas, Bama, or Florida… but with programs like these it seems as though every ten years they have some sort of violation, which is the only thing that makes me nervous about the irish, they have never received a recruiting violation, and the article suggests its a top ten program(the irish are a easy top three program), and it says itll be a big suprise(who would ever guess the irish!!!!

  78. grudenthediva says: Mar 2, 2011 7:43 PM

    “I wouldn’t suspect Florida State; however we can’t forget the Bowden Family history.”

    Clearly you know piss about the Bowden Family History because Bobby never committed any major recruiting violations, nor were there any under his watch.

    Nice try, though.

  79. rebeltitan says: Mar 2, 2011 7:48 PM

    Cowherd is lying

  80. quackattack69 says: Mar 2, 2011 8:11 PM

    Quite frankly I think ESPN is full of crap, trying to stir up ratings with this non-story http://bit.ly/h26Dqj of which has the “subtext” of a NCAA rules violation LAST YEAR. “Other violations included a handful of self-reported impermissible text messages and phone calls by assistant coaches to recruits and their fathers, and the teams website posting links to recruiting websites on signing day last year.” I MAY BE WRONG BUT ESPN HAS BEEN KNOWN TO STRETCH THE TRUTH. If I am right the answer is Oklahoma and the charges are misdemeanors…read the article.

  81. cjeducks says: Mar 2, 2011 8:22 PM

    I don’t think Cowherd is lying, I just think he’s an idiot that reported some rumor he heard as if it’s a fact. I bet that no school get’s any violations except maybe the very minor ones at OU that people are talking about. He probably heard that SI article was going to be a lot worse.

  82. southernpatriots says: Mar 2, 2011 9:21 PM

    We don’t think Cowherd is lying but exaggerating, yes! He heard a little something, or a bunch of little somethings, and then blew it up with hyperbole and knew it would excite the listeners but he could not have counted on this much response from this topic on CFT! From what we have heard and what we can surmise, there won’t be a large revelation, but small indiscretions and no “death penalty” or anything more than a slap on the wrist (maybe the school will voluntarily reduce their number of scholarships) etc. We could be wrong, but we hope not. OU is the best bet for the small violations (as cjeducks has posted).

    Alot of interest. Alot of drama. Alot of speculation. Not much payoff. That is what we think, what we hope.

  83. rcali says: Mar 2, 2011 9:28 PM

    Congratulations Wisconsin on your Rose Bowl victory!

  84. sgtpeppers05 says: Mar 2, 2011 9:52 PM

    ALABAMA FOLKS! hellooooooooooo, Saban is dirty as they come.

  85. dansullivan82 says: Mar 2, 2011 9:53 PM

    I’d guess Oregon since thats where Cowherds from and he still knows people who know things around there.And since SportsbyBrooks says several people at ESPN confirmed the story was about Oregon.

  86. cjeducks says: Mar 2, 2011 10:03 PM

    The only thing that SportsbyBrooks confirmed (if he is even telling the truth) is that Cowherd was talking about Oregon. Not that Cowherd’s story had any legitimacy.

  87. jdub713 says: Mar 2, 2011 10:23 PM

    Really people? Notre Dame? You have got to be kidding me. Notre Dame runs one of the cleanest CFB programs in the country; always have, always will. You have got to be a flat out hater, or ignoramus to make that assumption. Just the hint that the program will be “ousted” should tell you it isn’t ND. A team that gets that kind of punishment is one that’s known, or has been known for major recruiting violations in the past. ND has never been accused/ or punished for such violations, and you never get “ousted” on your first screw up. ND is too important to CFB to be ousted because they actually DO follow NCAA rules. They’ve lead by example since the programs inception, it doesn’t take an ND homer to recognize that, but it takes a blithering idiot not to.

  88. jsarge99 says: Mar 3, 2011 12:04 AM

    Clemson does seem to recruit better than it should, but top 10-12 program is pretty generous. I hope we find out soon so people can freak out, and make lame excuses.

  89. frug says: Mar 3, 2011 12:12 AM

    You make a decent point jdub. Except that it is completely irrelevant since he said the program is going to be “outed” not “ousted”.

  90. normana400 says: Mar 3, 2011 3:49 AM

    I have a couple of thoughts. He said this was a top 12 team. Its funny that he would say top 12 and not something more generic such as top 10 or top 15. Also if you say top 12, to me that means not a top 5 team (which would deprioritize Auburn, TCU, OSU, Oregon, Stanford).

    My thought is that it isn’t a perienial top recruiting team like Alabama, Texas, Ohio State, the Florida teams, or possibly even USC. Rather it would be a team that needs help competing against a top recruiting team. To me this highlights most of the SEC teams, a couple of Big 12 teams. Oregon stands out in the Pac 12.
    I also think that this team would be someone that has had recent strong recruiting classes. This negates most Big 10, ACC, and Big East schools plus Boise & TCU.
    If you had to pick one team out of the ACC that fits most criteria it would be Virginia Tech.
    Oregeon or USC seems the most likely out of the PAC 10, though they don’t completely fit the profile.
    I don’t see a potential Big 10 team or a big east team as a candidate.
    Perhaps the 2 Oklahoma teams would represent the big 12 possiblilites.
    The SEC is loaded with candidates. LSU, Arkansas, Ole Miss, Miss St, South Carolina)

    If you take a literal translation on his comment and the fact that his radio show is based in the south, then you would implecate Arkansas (which coincidently happenned to be #12 in the season ending polls).

  91. normana400 says: Mar 3, 2011 4:03 AM

    also this is a magazine that will do the outting. This means that the NCAA itself might not be involved in the process yet (which would negate Oregon’s response to the charge “they have recieved any word from the NCAA”)

  92. waynefontes says: Mar 3, 2011 6:01 AM

    irishfan1107 says:
    Mar 2, 2011 7:41 PM
    Im guessing Ohio State, Texas, Bama, or Florida… but with programs like these it seems as though every ten years they have some sort of violation, which is the only thing that makes me nervous about the irish, they have never received a recruiting violation, and the article suggests its a top ten program(the irish are a easy top three program), and it says itll be a big suprise(who would ever guess the irish!!!!

    ————————————————–

    Two thoughts:

    1) It’s OK to use periods and break up thoughts into seperate sentences.

    2) Notre Dame hasn’t been a top three program for well over 15 years. It’s 2011. Notre Dame’s best years are not behind them, but FAR behind them.

  93. southernpatriots says: Mar 3, 2011 6:53 AM

    waynefontes: Thank you! You said it best. We might add, Notre Dame in bowl games past 10 years, won 2 lost 8, 20% winning record with two loses v. LSU and we could go on but you said it best…”Notre Dame’s best years are not behind them, but FAR behind them.” ha….so true.

  94. theRichardofCFT says: Mar 3, 2011 7:29 AM

    grudenthediva says:
    Mar 2, 2011 7:43 PM
    “I wouldn’t suspect Florida State; however we can’t forget the Bowden Family history.”

    Clearly you know piss about the Bowden Family History because Bobby never committed any major recruiting violations, nor were there any under his watch.

    Nice try, though.

    ___________________

    Well there is Terry Bowden, his son. That’s family right?

    Nice try, though

  95. scardino says: Mar 3, 2011 10:29 AM

    I’m not a big Auburn follower so I may be way off on this. I believe what Richard is referring to is when Terry Bowden was at Auburn. He took over for Pat Dye while the school was being sanctioned for several violations. He didn’t actually commit the violations. He just had to deal with the aftermath.

  96. lasseter1113 says: Mar 3, 2011 2:05 PM

    I hate jealous idiots like lakesidegator who are still mad because Alabama beat them last year and the year before. I really don’t hate the Florida Gators football team and I don’t hate their fans I just HATE all these jealous idiots that throw Alabama in the mix because of some past football game where your team got beat. Get over it!!! I read down over 70 comments and was thinking thank God Alabama has nothing to do with this one when 1 stupid idiot had to run there mouth and ruin it. It’s not Alabama, It’s not Florida, It’s not Texas, It’s not LSU, It’s not any team like that. If you had read the article it is probably Tennessee, c’mon wtf???? Quit hatin’!! I really don’t like A LOT of teams out there but I would NEVER throw their names in the mix even if I was mad because of a past football game or TWO. I don’t even like writing this but you asked for it lakesidegator. Win it on the football field, not in some comment string……..before you put your thumbs down just think about the times some idiot has thrown your favorite teams name in the mix because of HATE not FACTS….

  97. poweredtoast says: Mar 4, 2011 12:58 AM

    Seriously, those guessing LSU need to bone up on their recruiting knowledge.

    The vast majority of LSU players either live in Louisiana, once lived in Louisiana, or have family that either lived in Louisiana or played for LSU. And go figure – Louisiana leads the nation in putting natives in the NFL, per capita. Mississippi – a natural area that LSU also tries to recruit ( along with the Houston area ) – is number two in putting native in the NFL ( again, per capita ).

    Its obviously not LSU.

  98. southernpatriots says: Mar 4, 2011 9:16 AM

    powderedtoast: Said very well. Thank you. Geaux Tigers!

  99. gonzohog says: Mar 4, 2011 7:55 PM

    Let’s keep this simple. I’ll go out on a limb and say Florida St. Why? because there has been pressure on Tommy Bowden for years to bring the program back to it’s national prominance of the ’90s.
    Well, Tommy is retired now, Jimbo Fisher has taken the lead and now there is more pressure to win than ever before.
    By the way, Florida St. just landed the #1 recruiting class in the nation. Hmmmmm…

  100. alligatorsnapper says: Mar 4, 2011 11:34 PM

    The news so far is that investigators are asking Oregon for information and documentation. Wonder if Cowherd will soon reveal more than rumor? Don’t think it is any SEC team and probably not Big 10, but probably Oregon, but without further info, it is all speculation. It is good to be the 100th poster, I think on this topic. Congrats all!

  101. carryingweight says: Mar 5, 2011 10:13 PM

    Not bsu that’s for sure.

  102. cowboysfan381 says: Mar 7, 2011 5:46 PM

    lucky5927 you must me naive to think it would Be Oklahoma State. Mike Gundy would never do something stupid like this.

    My guess is Bama saben has already made a bobo coming to OKC to talk to Barry Sanders Jr. and has been doing similar things in the past and they weren’t thats sucessful until 2 years ago
    or maybe Florida?? I hate Myer and i hate Tim he got way to much attition for a college player and look im not an OU fan but Sam Bradford was way better and making way more $ than Tim. maybe it was to good to be true for Florida and Tim.
    but anyways dont put the Pokes name in it OSU would never do anything to put themselves in trouble.
    GO POKES!!

  103. socal0101 says: Mar 8, 2011 3:40 AM

    Looks like jjay9 wins the prize for being the first to guess here that the team in question is Ohio State, per the Robinson/Wetzel report from Yahoo Sports.

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