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Tressel’s punishment far from fitting the violation

Ohio State head coach Jim Tressel yells to his team during the second quarter of their NCAA football game against Purdue in Columbus

Something’s rotten in Columbus.  And the stench is bordering on the overwhelming.

In October of 2009, Dez Bryant was ruled ineligible for the remainder of what turned out to be his final season at Oklahoma State for lying to the NCAA.  And Bryant hadn’t even committed a major violation; the fact that he fibbed led to the ultimate sanction.

Almost exactly 17 months later, Ohio State head coach Jim Tressel has been found to have committed a major violation and was slapped with a two-game suspension and fined $250,000 for, in essence, lying to his employer.  On three different occasions.  And you wouldn’t have to stretch very far based on his Herbie Hancock on compliance forms to make the case that his lies to the school were lies to the NCAA as well.

And he’s slapped with a two-game suspension?  There’s that odor again.

Tressel’s defense of why he knew in April of 2010 — a full eight months before OSU was made aware by elements outside the university — that at least two of his players were possibly receiving impermissible benefits and didn’t inform anyone at the school was wrapped in one word: confidentiality.  In an email dated April 2, Tressel was first informed by an unnamed attorney that federal agents had raided the house of Eddie Rife, owner of a Columbus, Oh., tattoo parlor frequented by Buckeye players, and that the raid yielded “a lot of Ohio State Memorabilia, including championship rings.”  The coach was further informed that “[name redacted] and other players have taken… signed Ohio State memorabilia to Eddie who has been selling it for profit.”

Tressel’s confidentiality defense is obliterated by the fact that the unnamed attorney had not asked for the information he was revealing to be kept in confidence during the first email.  It wasn’t until the second one sent on April 16 that Tressel was told “What I tell you is confidential.”  That means the head coach had a full two weeks between exchanges to inform his university that potential violations had possibly been committed and avoid violating some informal, trumped-up “confidentiality agreement”.

Instead, Tressel sat on the information.  Throughout April, into summer camp and through the regular season, he squatted on information that he knew at the time could contain potential violations of NCAA bylaws.  Hell, even as he was excitedly telling the world in late December that the players suspended for the first five games of the 2011 season would be returning for their senior years, he was still two weeks away from being forced to admit his cover-up.

Just as damning is the fact that the school acknowledged in its report to the NCAA that Tressel had three opportunities to come clean about having prior knowledge of the potential of impermissible benefits.  In September, Tressel signed the NCAA Certificate of Compliance Form indicating “he has reported any knowledge of possible violations to the institutions.”  There was another opportunity in early December, the school cited, as well as one on Dec. 16 “[w]hen Coach Tressel was asked if he had been contacted about this matter or knew anything about it, he replied that while he had received a tip about general rumors pertaining to certain of his players, that information had not been specific, and it pertained to their off-field choices.”

Of course, the latter was a blatant untruth as the attorney was very specific in his emails as he named both players and the type of memorabilia being sold and/or bartered.  It wasn’t until Jan. 13 that the emails were discovered by the school while working on “an unrelated legal issue” that Tressel was compelled to cop to having knowledge of the situation involving six of his players.

A full nine months after he first obtained said knowledge.

“Quite honestly, I was scared,” Tressel said when asked about his initial reaction to the emails, before launching his paper-thin confidentiality defense.

Certainly Tressel cares about his players, and tries to protect them at all costs.  That’s one of myriad character traits that endears him to players past and present.  However, in this case, and from the outside looking in, it appears he put the powerhouse football program he’s built above all else.  He took it upon himself to be above the law, NCAA or otherwise.

Should Tressel be dismissed for his transgressions?  Probably not, although going by the letter of his contract he very well could, and maybe should.  In that aspect, he’s likely out of the proverbial woods.

This is far from over, though; the NCAA will still have their say, and could very well add to the self-imposed sanctions.

And maybe, just this once, the governing body of collegiate athletics will get it right and hold a head coach to a higher standard than they do their student-athletes.

If not?  Well, we’ll have undeniable proof that, in the aftermath of Ray Isaac, Maurice Clarett, Troy Smith and now this, The Vest is indeed made of Kevlar.

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  1. dexterismyhero says: Mar 9, 2011 10:55 AM

    Since these are only OSU self imposed here is what I feel should happen.

    Forfeit all the games from 2010. They should have never been allowed to play in the Bowl game.

    Possibly declare those players ineligble and at least suspend Tressel for more than 2 games for 2011.

    Heavily fine OSU and/or Tressel for lying to the NCAA.

  2. blitz4848 says: Mar 9, 2011 10:56 AM

    The problem the NCAA may have is Tressel never really took ownership of his misdoings! His very first statement was that he really didn’t know where to go with the email information. He then just kind of bobbed and weaved through his statement. He was contractually obligated to go to his AD and his school Compliance Officer at the
    “very least.”

    Should he resign—probably NOT. Should he stand up and say I was wrong, I had information 9 mos earlier than I let on to not only the NCAA but my boss (the AD) and the university. I misled the OSU admin as well as the NCAA!

    I told my players if they wanted to play in the Sugar bowl they had to forego the draft and promise publically to return another yr and serve their 5 game suspensions.

    Tressel is the mentor to his players and he mislead the NCAA—noone with common sense can really believe he was “protecting his players”.
    The way he weaved his way through the press conference left me with the impression that winning was the number 1 priority and that would be jeopardised if this came out BEFORE last season started!

    Tressel should be suspended “6 games” and barred from the facilities on game days with no contact with the team during those 6 games.
    I offer 6 because that is ONE more than his players and sets an example that a HEAD coach is even more accountable than the players.

    The 2 game suspension put in place by Ohio St has been the but of jokes everywhere football is discussed on all media venues because it is 2 HOME games against MAC cupcakes.
    Game 3 is AT Miami U and game 6 is at Nebraska and that would show there are serious consequences for not following the NCAA guidelines.

    Big fines don’t carry the same weight
    as missed games because coaches can make up that money through various types of personal appearances above and beyond their contracts!

    The “SEC” stepped in and gave Pearl 3 times the game suspensions and 5 times the fine that OSU gave Tressel and Pearl is still awaiting his fate from the NCAA. If the NCAA “adds” anything more to Pearl’s penalty then Tressel could get hammered by the NCAA. If the Big 10 where to step up and add to the punishment that may go a long way in keeping the NCAA from piling on!

    Tressel has been considered above reproach for the way he has conducted himself over the yrs at OSU but that still doesn’t give him “a pass” when he made a conscious decision to circumvent the reporting system put in place by both the NCAA and OSU!

  3. darthgator74 says: Mar 9, 2011 11:03 AM

    Cue the Cam Newton comparisons

  4. bntally says: Mar 9, 2011 11:11 AM

    LOL… Herbie Hancock. Maybe Tressel should also be slapped around by the robots from the Rock it video.

  5. huskerguy says: Mar 9, 2011 11:12 AM

    Tressel is supposedly a religious man.

    Maybe he should go read the story of Peter denying Jesus three times… if anything because the irony between this and that is just crazy.

    Tressel denying the NCAA three times. Yes, he will be forgiven but there will be consequences to his actions.

  6. atxcane says: Mar 9, 2011 11:20 AM

    Youngstown St. Redux?

    Just sayin’ the guy has a history of covering up improper benefits to players.

  7. tornadoes28 says: Mar 9, 2011 11:23 AM

    Unbelievable hypocrisy here. USC gets banned for two years for something that a players parents did that the university probably had no idea was going on. Tressel tries to hide infractions from players and only gets suspended two games. Sick. The NCAA is sick.

  8. olskool711 says: Mar 9, 2011 11:29 AM

    Shame, shame, shame.

    Ohio State has become an embarrassment. THE Embarrassment.

    Never has a brand been as overrated as this “program”.

    One fluke title, at the expense of a group of completely overconfident, unmotivated gangsters, is all they really can show since Woody has left.

    Other than Woody Hayes, Ohio State has essentially nothing but hundreds of NCAA violations (325-350 this decade), epic examples of leadership (Claret, Pryor, the list goes on…), and a smattering of victories against a has been football conference.

    Why are they relevant? They shouldn’t be.

    Other than their kooky university president, they are not worthy of the attention and news the culture heeps upon these posers.

    I grew up a buckeye fan. Now I consider them a joke.

    Embarrassing.

    Shame, shame, shame!

  9. jaggedmark says: Mar 9, 2011 11:31 AM

    (from above story) Certainly Tressel cares about his players, and tries to protect them at all costs. That’s one of myriad character traits that endears him to players past and present.

    (my question) So he would have handled this the same way if it had been 6 third stringers instead of stars? I don’t think so.

  10. 11inthebox says: Mar 9, 2011 12:05 PM

    Good story, John Taylor.

    That’s the law of the land these days: punish the little guy (Dez Bryant) who just happens to be a young black man, and grant a pass to the coach, who just happens to be a white man—one who is a highly paid school official and ostensibly part of the school’s power structure and identity.

    It’s like the so-called ‘war on drugs.’ Make a big fuss about busting the street dealer, caught with a few pounds of stuff, but look the other way at the guys with ships, planes, and off shore accounts.

    Can’t embarrass them, as they’re ‘respected members of the community.’

  11. atxcane says: Mar 9, 2011 12:06 PM

    It should be noted that this IS NOT the NCAA sanction. This is self-imposed in the hopes that the NCAA will approve and not add much on.

    The NCAA hasn’t weighed in yet, so it’s a bit early to accuse them of hypocrisy.

  12. dkhhuey says: Mar 9, 2011 12:09 PM

    @John Taylor – what a totally lame and low class act of amateur ‘reporting’ you achieved by tossing in a totally irrelevant burp about Troy Smith and Mo Clarett. Not even remotely germane to this event and only illustrates the incredibly low qualifications it takes to become a ‘journalist’ in today’s world. The only way these two stories would be relevant to this story is if you’re trying to imply that Tressel knew about these infractions as well prior to getting noticed by the NCAA. For you to make that very blatant statement you need to provide some serious facts to prove your case. Since I’m guessing you don’t have any facts, then you just threw Smith and Clarett out in as a very irresponsible attempt to justify your point of view.

    Absolutely feel free to rail on about how you feel these OSU imposed sanctions are not enough but stop comparing apples to oranges here. Has the NCAA levied their final sentence? No they haven’t so your assuming they will rubber stamp agree with OSU’s self imposed penalty as a foundation for your outrage which is again, another lame attempt from you to generate anger and tons of posts.

  13. dmvdmv101560 says: Mar 9, 2011 12:20 PM

    @dkhhuey,

    How can one person write so much and say so little!

  14. jamie54 says: Mar 9, 2011 12:24 PM

    Get over it Taylor, for crying out loud. This is OSU’s shot of course they’re going to be lenient. Wait until the NCAA comes out with its sanctions then you can cry about it. I’m sure no matter what their decision is you’ll have something to whine about.

  15. CBFAN says: Mar 9, 2011 12:25 PM

    intheox – LOL, now it is a race issue.

  16. dkhhuey says: Mar 9, 2011 12:36 PM

    @dmv2 – the same way you’re miraculously able to own, let alone use a computer

  17. gatorprof says: Mar 9, 2011 12:45 PM

    I think that at the end of the day, this is the beginning of the end for the Vest.

    The Vest preaches character and honesty, that is his “brand”…Jo Pa he is not. The feeding frenzy has started on OSU and the pressure will continue to mount until the Vest is gone.

    The NCAA HAS TO STEP IN and increase the penalties. The Vest KNEW that several of his star players were likely ineligible going into spring ball, but didn’t report them and lied to the NCAA during the December investigation. At the very least, the 2010 season is gone.

    Isn’t this a definition of “willful” lack of institutional control? I see 2-3 years probation, postseason ban and scholarship limits.

  18. fatfreddystubbs says: Mar 9, 2011 12:46 PM

    I don’t blame OSU for trying to be proactive with their punishment once they knew it was all going to come out.

    However, it reminds me of the time I got a detention, and knowing my parents would be getting a call from the principal’s office in the next day or two telling them, I decided to tell them first, and also decided i was going to “ground” myself by not watching any TV that night, hoping my self-imposed punishment would be sufficient.

    For OSU and Tressel’s sake, hope it work out better for them than it did for me.

  19. dkhhuey says: Mar 9, 2011 12:57 PM

    @gatorprof – agreed that this is going to ignite a feeding frenzy of focus on the university and a sh!t storm of speculation and coverage, some good and worthy and others a bunch of crap (like this particular story). The understatement of the year: It’s going to be one long long long long season for us in the Buckeye Nation because of the endless and monumental amount of coverage this will garner. It will be quite nauseating but with a ton of wings and vodka, I’ll get through it.

    I don’t agree that this is the end of the Vest at OSU though. He has a great amount of ‘good’ karma built up which will (and should) help in dealing with this. Make no mistakes, I am angry that he has committed this major violation but to toss him aside for this would be an amazingly bad decision.

  20. Sickwitit says: Mar 9, 2011 1:36 PM

    Is it just me or does this dkhhuey guy sound like an effing crybaby? Man the eff up!!

    Its people like you that makes us thank the birth control industry for all the “greater good” they’ve done minimizing people like you walking this earth.

    You should have been a **ow *ob

  21. 11inthebox says: Mar 9, 2011 1:50 PM

    @ CBFAN who says:
    LOL, now it is a race issue
    ———————————
    Just pointing out the subtleties that run parallel to other societal issues.

    Just pointing out how it’s ironic that the ‘little guy’ happens to fall into one category, while the guy who is ‘too big to embarrass’ happens to fall into another.

    It’s a complicated idea… for people who can entertain more than one thought.

  22. dkhhuey says: Mar 9, 2011 1:53 PM

    @sickwitit – WTF? I’m not saying anything about unjust charges against Tressel so I have no idea what you’re talking about. Here’s my point in a nutshell so when the acid/heroin trip wears off you’ll get it.

    Tressel had an error in judgment and made a bad decision which resulted in an NCAA violation. He deserves whatever punishment he gets. He is a great guy and a great coach and has earned way more ‘pro’ marks than bad and his punishment should reflect that.

  23. Sickwitit says: Mar 9, 2011 2:08 PM

    An error in judgment is driving after a few beers.

    An error in judgment is being 5 ft 4, 250 lbs and wearing spandex

    An error in judgment is NOT holding information from your boss / higher organization in which you know is going to bring wanting attention to your piss poor (IMO) university.

    You would realize this if you would take the “buckeye” out of your mouth.

    Too much?

  24. tk1966 says: Mar 9, 2011 2:40 PM

    This is why as a graduate of a Big Ten institution, on most occasions I tend to root for Big Ten schools, with the exception of Ohio State. They may help in terms of victories, but as was once said, winning isn’t everything. Integrity counts for something, and they drag down the conference in that regard.

  25. huskerguy says: Mar 9, 2011 2:40 PM

    Bullseye. ^^^^^

  26. huskerguy says: Mar 9, 2011 2:45 PM

    The leader can never close the gap between himself and the group. If he does, he is no longer what he must be. He must walk a tightrope between the consent he must win and the control he must exert.

    Vince Lombardi

  27. stairwayto7 says: Mar 9, 2011 3:34 PM

    A few things:
    1. Death penalty!
    2. ThanksTerrell Pryor for not going to Penn State and ruining Joe’s last years.
    3.Drug trafficing..wasn’t Chris Carter’s som kicked off team??? hmmmmmmmm
    4. Why is no one investigating Gene Smith the A.D? He was at ASU when they had point shaving scandel and now this at OSU? I think he is involved somehow…

  28. diegorodriguez3897 says: Mar 9, 2011 4:02 PM

    OSU and Tressel both know that he will eventually leave as a result of this cover-up. The press conference yesterday was really bad in many ways and it just goes to show that all they are trying to do is delay the inevitable.

    The program is going to lose both scholarships and bowl games. Tressel is going to be suspended for at least half the season if not more. He may be bigger than the OSU administration but his poor choices have left the NCAA no choice. OSU and Tressel are going to get HAMMERED. OSU is just stalling in order to give them more time to get their next head coach or interim head coach lined up before Tressel resigns.

  29. tryagainplease says: Mar 9, 2011 4:18 PM

    dear john- amen, sir.

  30. edgy says: Mar 9, 2011 4:27 PM

    I think that if that was Lane Kiffin or Pete Carroll and John had posted this that Baby Huey wouldn’t be so quick to get on to him. HYP—–.

  31. sillysillypiccadily says: Mar 9, 2011 4:27 PM

    Really? I think we all heard word for word what you said on ESPN last night. Way to be original.

    I have a question though, if you recieved a random email from a “US Attorney” I completely agree some looking into the matter should have been done. Most US Attorney cases however are never made public until charges are file, so that seem incredibly odd. Fishy in fact.

    Secondly I don’t think the NCAA has a rule for how to handle students getting tattoos from a tattoo parlor being investigated by the US government.

    Plenty of other coaches have done stupid things (insert a certain PAC-10 coach here or SMU coach here) So who are we all to cast the first stone. College football is business first, then a sport.

  32. Tim's Neighbor says: Mar 9, 2011 4:28 PM

    tOSU’s graduation rates prove that Tressel really cares about his players. Especially the minority ones.

    The guy is a scumbag. I love that the Big 10 is seemingly a cleaner conference with some integrity. This is too SECesque for me. I hope that the NCAA comes down on them hard.

  33. latrobe21 says: Mar 9, 2011 4:34 PM

    SEC coaches are laughing their as**s off about how stupid Tressel is leaving an e-mail trail. They prefer the “word of mouth” method through about 4 layers of boosters . . .

  34. gamecockinfl says: Mar 9, 2011 4:44 PM

    His penalty is self imposed. The NCAA has not spoken yet and will be under close scrutiny in this case. The OSU faithful keep talking about his love for his players and trying to protect them, but he better be worried about protecting his job and the integrity of the University first.

  35. maverick919 says: Mar 9, 2011 4:49 PM

    Wow…if this happened at the University of Miami Sports Illustrated would already have “Why Miami Should Drop Football” part 2. Because it is OHIO all bets are off. The author is correct…justice has not been done here.

  36. imneverwrong says: Mar 9, 2011 5:07 PM

    The hate for OSU is amazing. Really the hate for any school that has any infraction is amazing. People act like it doesn’t happen anywhere and when it does they are shocked. I doubt JT steps down or is fired, wouldn’t this be running from a mistake as opposed to owning the mistake? If they suspend him and give us fines and probation and he stays, wouldn’t that prove that he is there for the kids and feels he can still help? He would be working to make a wrong a right, most people do not do this, so if this happens and he stays I commend him for that and it would be first step towards making the situation right and being able to shove all the negativity he receives now in the face of everyone who gives it to him. He knows that he now has to answer questions about this for the rest of his life whether he stays in coaching or not. People make mistakes and have to pay for them. Once this is done, and if he is still the coach, will people shut up or say “well that one time …”?

  37. imneverwrong says: Mar 9, 2011 5:10 PM

    “The “SEC” stepped in and gave Pearl 3 times the game suspensions and 5 times the fine that OSU gave Tressel and Pearl is still awaiting his fate from the NCAA. If the NCAA “adds” anything more to Pearl’s penalty then Tressel could get hammered by the NCAA. If the Big 10 where to step up and add to the punishment that may go a long way in keeping the NCAA from piling on!”

    This is true, but it is basketball, so 6 out of 30 games or so, the % is about the same. The $$ may be different.

  38. blitz4848 says: Mar 9, 2011 5:16 PM

    How does that prove he is/was there for the kids? Let’s be real—this is the best paying job he will EVER have = $3.5 mil a yr.

    As far as his owning it goes—I was expecting and waiting last night for him to manup and own it—
    He NEVER did and that was a mistake.

    It appears tOSU fans know he messed up and the quicker Tressel gets out IN FRONT of this the better off he and the university will be.

  39. blitz4848 says: Mar 9, 2011 5:20 PM

    Wrong—Pearl got 8 conference games–which is huge. He coached against the weaklings at the beginning of the season and then had to sit out “half” the SEC conference games—so to equate then Tressel should sit the first 4 conference games. Since his players are sitting 5 total he should sit at least 6 total since he is much more accountable than 18 & a9 yr olds.

    Dez Bryant got aan entire season for lying to the NCAA “once” about having lunch with Deion Sanders—-Tressel, according to Smith, their AD, had 3 chances to set the record straight and did NOT!!!

  40. laxer37 says: Mar 9, 2011 6:01 PM

    I thought the cover up was always worse than the crime?

    If so why did the players get five games and Tressell only got two?

    And don’t point to his fine either, $250K is walking around money for Tressell.

  41. atxcane says: Mar 9, 2011 6:15 PM

    Remember with Dez Bryant too, he lied to the NCAA about something *which wasn’t even an infraction*. He lied about something which wasn’t a crime and was sat for a season.

    The tricky part in this case is that Tressel didn’t lie to the NCAA directly. He certainly withheld information on violations from the NCAA. His omissions led to tOSU unknowingly lying to the NCAA. And this was all over a crime that was actually committed. So does the NCAA view this as “Tressel covered up infractions” or “tOSU lied to the NCAA about infractions”. Ultimately, even thought Tressel lied to tOSU, tOSU as an institution lied to the NCAA.

  42. jnathan93 says: Mar 9, 2011 6:47 PM

    John Taylor, I am sick of your blatant anti OSU bias. Every chance you get you knock Ohio State. I agree that this is a major infraction. I’m sure when you first heard this story you were absolutely giddy. Christmas came again for you, I fear. A blogger on a general college football blog must be impartial. If this was a specific college site, your bull would be tolerated. But it shouldn’t be here.

  43. gentlax13 says: Mar 9, 2011 6:57 PM

    atxcane,

    He did lie to the NCAA directly. He signed a document when the players got suspended declaring that he did not previously know anything and that he has told the NCAA investigators everything he knew about the investigated incidents. Obviously, that wasn’t true. That’s a lie.

  44. atxcane says: Mar 9, 2011 7:03 PM

    ^^^^^^ just reread the article and yep, that’s true. Tressel may have screwed tOSU pretty good. Youngstown St. Part 2 indeed…

  45. Deb says: Mar 9, 2011 7:35 PM

    @jnathan93 …

    Honey, are you new??? John Taylor is from Ohio. He’s an Ohio State fan, you silly boy.

    The man loves Ohio State, and has always respected Tressel, but he has a job to do. He has to treat Tressel and OSU as he treated USC and every other team he’s covered that’s broken NCAA rules. What you are reading is the essence of objectivity.

    And let me tell you something since you don’t seem bright enough to figure it out for yourself. It takes a lot more character to be honest about the team you love than to put your coach on a pedestal and pretend he’s wearing a halo. I think the NCAA’s rules are nitpicky on some of this stuff. But the fact is that Tressel knew the rules, he was informed of the infraction, and he buried the information allowing ineligible players to take the field. The school has admitted that. Now it’s time for you to man up like John Taylor and take your lumps.

  46. thatdude32 says: Mar 9, 2011 8:34 PM

    i am really annoyed by all this everybody is hatin on OSU bulls**t. John Taylor is right sorry homers when you fail to tell of a possible violation 3 times over a 9 month period plus he lied about when he was told this info was confidential, 2 minutes is long enough for me to take this to AD let alone 2 weeks,face it he is to me like all coaches that think their above the law whether its Kelvin Sampson,Bruce Pearl, Dave Bliss and so on.those guys are weasels

  47. gatiger says: Mar 9, 2011 10:14 PM

    Seems like the players are being punished way more than coaches. Dez Bryant lost his entire season because he was working to improve.

    When the stormtroopers from the NCAA came a calling, I bet he did lie.

    The OSU players bartered some of their stuff for tatoos. Maybe not the smartest thing ever done, but wasn’t it their stuff, why can’t they trade/barter with it.

    They lose 5 games, almost half of a season they will never get back.

    Tressell loses 2 games and a fine. He has made a ton of money so the fine’s not that big a deal. The 2 games are not that much of the season, with probably many seasons to come (at OSU or somewhere else….or another ESPN Analyst)

    The kids made mistakes but they ARE kids. Tressell is supposed to be the adult with better judgement.

  48. edgy says: Mar 10, 2011 8:36 AM

    I think that blitz had made several good points about this issue but it seems that tOSU fans just want to put their head in the ground when it comes to how this issue is more than what they’re trying to make it out to be. It’s bad enough that the kids did what they did but Tressel was the adult in the room and he should have known better and he should have come forward sooner but he didn’t and you can make excuses until the cows come home but he needed to inform the U. Lying to the school and the NCAA is worse than the crime. If a guy commits the crime and then is up front about it, you’ve got to punish him but then if he tries to cover it up, you’ve got to come down harder. He’s the guy that should be setting the example for the kids and if this is the example that he wants to set then how can you hold him up as a model for them to emulate? I have nothing against Tressel but let’s face facts: he’s got to get a suspension that’s at least as long as the players and probably more so because of his position. They should probably make him miss the first two games and the first 4 Big 10 games to give him something to think about.

  49. 1990tiger says: Mar 10, 2011 8:55 AM

    The more I read about this situation, the more I begin to believe that the ultimate outcome will be Tressel leaving OSU…either getting forced out by the administration (somewhat unlikely) or Tressel and OSU reaching some sort of agreement under which Tressel “resigns” because he “loves OSU”, doesn’t want to serve as a distraction, and thinks his leaving will be the best thing for the school that he holds dearly to his heart…..we’ve all heard this speech from head coaches before. Of course, OSU will insist they fully supported him, “begged” him to stay, express their deepest regret on his decision, enumerate the many great things he has done for the school, and wish him and his family well. Tressel won’t leave empty-handed but will instead receive a healthy (and undisclosed) buyout of his contract.

    I’m not saying that he deserves to be fired for what he did but I can see this playing out with him ultimately leaving before next season. Have the bookies in LV established any odds on this scenario yet?

  50. tide4life says: Mar 10, 2011 9:36 AM

    The NCAA has flushed the last remaining scraps of it’s ethics and credibility down the crapper. The first dump came with the 23 hour Double Secret Probation of Newton, and the slope has proven steep indeed.
    I quit watching the phoney circus that is NFL football years ago, when it became obvious that it was nothing but low-brow theater for the goober crowd that supports WWF and NASCAR; I guess college football is pretty much over, too.

  51. Deb says: Mar 10, 2011 11:45 AM

    @tide4life …

    You had me with your first sentence. I’m having a hard time getting worked up over guys trading autographs for tats when the NCAA kept playing “find the pea in the walnut shell” with Newton’s pay-for-play scam. But that rant about the NFL being low-brow theater for the WWF crowd? Sweetie, that just tells me you’re using the group computer at the psych ward. Calm down before the staff brings restraints. :roll:

  52. tide4life says: Mar 10, 2011 1:28 PM

    @deb-
    My goodness . . . surely you aren’t (ahem) still clinging to the fantasy that “pro” football is real? I mean, really . . . next you’ll be telling us you buy into the validity of Bigfooot and AmeriCon Idle . . . :)

  53. jnathan93 says: Mar 10, 2011 8:57 PM

    How do people know that i am a teenager? This is creepy. Maybe i don’t know enough about john taylor, but i do know that the whole college football world is up in arms about tressel, but in reality what did he do? He didn’t create a Kiffin like circus were rules mean nothing. He’s one of the last of a dying breed. An old school coach who doesn’t oversign, tries to build young men not only into good football players but good citizens as well. Now in reality, he made one mistake. A really big one. But one stupid decision shouldn’t destroy what he has built over a decade. I’ll be honest, when i first read the yahoo article, I thought that it was false. But it proved to be true. Tressel has proven that he is human. He is only a man, and man is inherently imperfect. Obama smoked pot but he is still a great president. Michael Vick made a grievous error in judgement and paid the price. People make mistakes, whether they are 20 year old quarterbacks who sell their stuff, or 58 year old grizzled coaches, who out of a mix of fear and self interest, withhold information. This is America. We believe in second chances. And a man with as much cred as Tressel should certainly get one.

  54. Deb says: Mar 11, 2011 2:50 PM

    @tide4life …

    Yes, darlin’, I believe in the NFL … in all its greedy, bureaucratic, stormtrooper glory. In fact, I believe the NFL is even less corrupt than the NCAA in terms of the actual product on the field. :)

    @jnathan93 …

    It’s not that creepy–sometimes the writing gives these things away ;) I’m actually one of the rare SEC types who’s been taking it easy on Tressel. But I can’t let you whallop on our lovely host John Taylor, a true man among football bloggers. And he really is a diehard Ohio State/Cleveland Browns fan writing from his Ohio base.

    The issue isn’t so much what Tressel did as what he did in the context of the NCAA rules. My personal view is that the rules are ridiculous. The NCAA doesn’t have enough investigators to keep up with huge pay-for-play scandals (like the Cam Newton issue) or agent-bribery scandals (Reggie Bush) because it’s too focused on nitpicky issues such as players trading merchandise for tatoos or how many texts recruiters sent to high school prospects or whether visiting prospects had their photos taken in personalized jerseys. Those things to me are minutia compared to pay-for-play, bribery, or Lane Kiffin having recruits, um, “serviced” by willing college coeds. And I don’t think coaches should have to police their players.

    But no matter how I feel, those are the rules and Tressel knew them. He covered up the infractions and lied about them on numerous occasions. Do I think the punishment Ohio State has handed out is sufficient? Yeah. But it’s nowhere near what his players are serving or what other coaches have received for similar infractions, and that’s why people are up in arms. The other reason people are piling on is because Ohio State fans are always quick to ridicule SEC schools when they have issues. That’s foolish because–as you’ve wisely pointed out–everyone makes mistakes and you never know when your team will be hit.

    My guess at this point is that the NCAA probably will take it further. I don’t think it makes Tressel a bad man, and hope it won’t cost him his job. It will be tough on fans, but many of us have been through it. Just ignore the haters. This too will pass.

  55. parkcityute says: Mar 12, 2011 6:20 AM

    From what I have read of the Tressel affair, from what I have heard, from what the NCAA has recently penalized, and how much emphasis the NCAA puts on its Rule, the NCAA will bring down much greater penalty on Ohio State and Tressel than Ohio State has levied so far. I expect him to sit out much of the schedule this fall, if not all of it. I expect Ohio State to lose the bowl game, or should.

    It could be that paying a small stipend each month to the athletes which are making so much for the unversities may stop much of this small stuff and allow the NCAA the opportunity to chase the big situations.

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