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‘Relentless’ Buckeye fans force Herbstreit to move from Ohio

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Like many, many kids born and raised in the state, Kirk Herbstreit grew up as a fan of the Ohio State Buckeyes, particularly the football program.  Like his father Jim, he played football at the school, becoming the starting quarterback and co-captain in the late eighties and early nineties.

After his eligibility expired, Herbstreit remained in Columbus as a radio personality, and ultimately became arguably the face of college football on ESPN.  Unfortunately, he also became the subject of vitriol spewed by his own people — Buckeye fans — for having the utter gall and audacity to attempt to be fair and balanced when analyzing/reporting on his alma mater.

And, thanks to that small but deafening portion of the OSU fan base, Herbstreit has been forced to uproot himself and his family from his — and their — lifelong home.

Herbstreit has confirmed to Bob Hunter of the Columbus Dispatch that he, his wife and his four sons moved from their Ohio home Thursday to a new one in Tennessee.  And, as you’ve probably already ascertained, it was a decision he says he was forced to make, not one he wanted to.

“Nobody loves Ohio State more than me,” Herbstreit, who’ll continue doing his Columbus radio show in the fall, told the paper. “I still have a picture of Woody Hayes and my dad (Jim, a former OSU player) in my office, and nobody will do more than I do for the university behind the scenes. But I’ve got a job to do, and I’m going to continue to be fair and objective. To continue to have to defend myself and my family in regards to my love and devotion to Ohio State is unfair. …

“Eighty to ninety percent of the Ohio State fans are great. It’s the vocal minority that make it rough. They probably represent only 5 to 10 percent of the fan base, but they are relentless.”

Personally, I’d put the numbers at 70-30 in favor of “great”, but won’t quibble over some percentage points.

Regardless of the actual numbers, it’s a damn shame and utter travesty — shavesty? — that Herbstreit was forced to move out of a state in which he’s lived for four decades or so because of a handful of shameless, braying jackasses.

Was he “unfairly critical” at times of his Buckeyes?  Probably.  He’s a fallible human being, though, not some 2,000-year-old carpenter from Galilee.  Did it appear at times he swung his opinion in the extreme opposite direction in order to “prove” to the nation that he was not biased in favor of his alma mater?  Sure seemed that way on occasion.

Did he deserve the type of persecution he says he received from Buckeye Nation?  If you need an answer to that question, you’re likely part of the dolt minority.

Especially when you consider that there’s photographic proof that, if anything, he should be criticized for wearing his inner Scarlet & Gray too much on his sleeve.  In public:

Yeah, look at how much he despises the program for which he played.  The disdain is clearly written all over his face for all to see.

Honestly, some people really, really need to get a life.  Especially when their need to live vicariously through some laundry and colors alters the lives of four kids simply because their dad was trying to do his job.

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  1. facebook.com/joesimmonscomic AKA Slow Joe (Bucs fan) says: Mar 12, 2011 10:52 AM

    I’d say about 10-15% of football fans take their sport way too seriously, and don’t have the intellect to figure out when a man is just doing his job.

    Maybe it’s 20-25%.

  2. superfbfan says: Mar 12, 2011 11:08 AM

    If he thinks Ohio is bad….wait till he has to deal with the ridge runners of rocky-top in Tenn. Good luck Kirk!

  3. WingT says: Mar 12, 2011 11:27 AM

    Not sure what’s worse, poisoning your opponents beloved tress or forcing a man to move his wife and kids from their lifelong home for safety reasons.

    I guess they are both despicable.

  4. truwarier90 says: Mar 12, 2011 11:28 AM

    osu represents everything wrong with cfb, they pretend to act all prim and proper with their dotting of their “I”, their sweater vests, their helmet decals, but behind the scenes their program is run by snakes and crooks and they make the 1980s miami teams look like mother theresa.

  5. buckeyeboy says: Mar 12, 2011 11:56 AM

    thank you john for more snide comments on OSU “personall, I’d put the numbers at 70-30 in favor of ‘great’, but won’t quibble over some percentage points”

    oh john your bias is showing……..

  6. jsarge99 says: Mar 12, 2011 12:00 PM

    It take 1 idiot to kill a tree, it takes thousands of idiots to chase off a broadcaster.

  7. cassrangers says: Mar 12, 2011 12:11 PM

    Stay classy Ohio!!!

  8. weswelkerspornstash says: Mar 12, 2011 12:15 PM

    Everybody beat me to the tree poisoning post. I’ll just leave it alone

  9. nashvilletrojan says: Mar 12, 2011 12:16 PM

    Welcome to Nashville Herbie!! As a transplant myself,…..it might take you a little while, but you’ll probably learn to enjoy the lifestyle here once settled.

    Don’t be offended by the ugly, orange colors in Fall, hopefully the local team (Vandy) will get better.

  10. parkcityute says: Mar 12, 2011 12:26 PM

    Ohio State has a coach who lied to investigators who lived on the form he signed and swore it was the truth and that he had no additional information. Then Ohio State penalizes him financially which appeared to be appropriate, but then gave him a slap on the wrist for games he will be suspended from. His players who were not the coach and did not lie to the NCAA received much more game penalty.

    Other details are also detrimental to Tressel and Herbstreit reported it. About 90% of Ohio State fans apparently are sane, and the other 10% apparently were radically unbalanced and threatened Herbstreit and his family.

    I monitored CFT for several months before I posted my first comment. Over those months, I noticed the most abusive fans included those with “buckeye” in their aliases and advanced so many vitriolic comments toward various SEC teams and others, expressing a superiority of moral virtue that they contrasted against the pagans who make up other teams, especially the unwashed of the SEC. Maybe some of these CFT Ohio State posters are the 10% fringe, the same type that chased Herbstreit to Tennessee. I am glad I am in Park City.

    We are not SEC fans, but have to respect the great football and success these teams have had now for years.

  11. thatdude32 says: Mar 12, 2011 12:47 PM

    get a f**kin life buckeye fans can’t stand the heat then get out the f**kin kitchen yall buckeyes fans are jackasses and whoever you are with buckeye on your name can quote me on that i don’t even like Kirk Herbstreit but he should’nt have to move just cuz he kept it real with his opinion about that punk a** school

  12. buckeyenutz22 says: Mar 12, 2011 12:59 PM

    I have no problem with Herbstreit as a college football commentator, but as an analyst he is terrible. The guy shows incredible bias (towards OSU and towards other teams) and often comments on situations that he has no business commentating on. The guy isn’t a journalist, he is a talking head. Look at the situation with Les Miles to Michigan a few years ago and the recent Tat-Gate at OSU. The guy reports completely false information. He isn’t a journalist but he tries to be. After a fall out between him and Pryor, he decided to drop OSU in his final rankings 3 spots after a win over a good team. The fallout from this, a Columbus sports writer said, was the last straw for him. But if he was willing to make his final rankings this season based on spite and personal bias, how many other situations has he done something similar?

  13. thefiesty1 says: Mar 12, 2011 1:17 PM

    I guess Tressel’s “punishment” over tatoogate was just too much to take. Good luck in Tennessee, it will probably be a shorter flight home after traveling all over the SEC to call your games. Maybe you can get Mushberger to give it up too.

  14. edgy says: Mar 12, 2011 2:21 PM

    It’s a good thing that he’s not here because he’d have to put up with the guys that have been making excuses upon excuses and not admit that the situation is worse than they want to portray it. But, let’s not think that this wouldn’t happen somewhere else. I’ve seen fans in this state go after anyone that has said anything negative about the Sooners, even if it were 100% true. Of course, they really hate it when I say that it’s in the blood of the Sooners to cheat since the name was given to those that cheated the system during the land rush. :)

  15. screw231 says: Mar 12, 2011 2:26 PM

    @thatdude32 when calling posters on a blog jackasses you should probably proof read before posting. as for Kirk it is a shame he had to move but buckeye nation is crazy and as a fan he knew that before opening his mouth. in regards to Tressel and tattoogate what he did was wrong and I think the fine of 250,000 dollars (the same amount the current heisman and national championship winning cam newton’s father took) is a steeper punishment than sitting out any amount of games would be.

  16. ernestbynershands says: Mar 12, 2011 2:46 PM

    Nice. Myopic, psychopathic Ohio sports fan making the rest of we Buckeye state natives proud. Cavs fan and Browns fan now look sane by comparison.
    Can’t wait til Mo Pryor, er Terrell Clarrett, I mean Terrell Pryor and company are gone.
    Tressel shoulda gone out like Woody Hayes, instead of Mrs. Hayes.

  17. tomosbornesretirementcostjoepaatitle says: Mar 12, 2011 2:55 PM

    I absolutely despise ESPN, but have always thought the Herbie was one of the class guys on the network. This is an absolute travesty, yet not entirely unexpected. The people behind this are the same ones who put the outcome of a football game way ahead of something as trivial as education and bettering ones self, community, and country.

  18. Deb says: Mar 12, 2011 2:55 PM

    @buckeyeboy …

    Good grief, you’re doing to John what the nuts did to Herbstreit!! John is an Ohio State fan! And he’s right. It probably is closer to 70-30 for most fan bases these days. People have no sense of perspective. I’m afraid you may fit into that category.

    @superfbfan …

    Amen to that. The Tennessee faithful can get scary … seriously. Would never go there for an away game after some of the horror stories I’ve heard from family members (who will never go again). I enjoy breathing.

    @jsarge99 …

    Thank you! Don’t know what my buddy Wing T is thinking. The tree was poisoned by a 62-year-old nutjob who, at last report, was living in the woods and sleeping in his car. You can’t tar an entire fan base for the behavior of one disturbed individual. The Alabama fan base raised $50,000 for the care and replacement of those trees.

    By contrast, Herbstreit and his family were chased out of Ohio by the ongoing actions of many Ohio State fans over a long period. The two situations don’t compare.

  19. judgeblue11 says: Mar 12, 2011 3:05 PM

    What a bunch of losers. Pathetic. No wonder the head coach thinks it is acceptable to lie/cheat.

  20. florida727 says: Mar 12, 2011 3:22 PM

    Drawing ANY alignment between this and what Tressel did is just plain idiotic. One involves a coach that lied (big deal). That other involves moronic fans that take themselves way too seriously.

    BTW, Buckeye fans, I’m a Gator fan. Sure enjoyed kicking your @$$ in both the football and basketball nationals championships.

  21. nashvilletrojan says: Mar 12, 2011 3:22 PM

    Curious, what is in the water up there in OH? First, Lebron James, then Carson Palmer wants to leave because he and his family get death threats in Cincy, now Herbie in Colombus?

    What has happened to fans nationwide? It’s a sport, entertainment. I’m really amazed.

  22. florida727 says: Mar 12, 2011 3:24 PM

    Drawing ANY comparison between this and what Tressel did is just plain idiotic. One involves a coach that lied (big deal). That other involves moronic fans that take themselves way too seriously.

    BTW, Buckeye fans, I’m a Gator fan. Sure enjoyed kicking your @$$ in both the football and basketball nationals championships.

  23. bonerchamp says: Mar 12, 2011 3:32 PM

    He called out Pryor because he is an a**hole. From start to finish the kids legacy will be ego and the spotlight that he put on OSU’s “look the other way” policy.
    So chasing Herbie, a guy who bleeds those God awful colors, out of town because he’s been to harsh on TP is insane.
    Good job OSU, you let TP become the face of your football program….what does that say about you?

  24. dcroz says: Mar 12, 2011 3:38 PM

    When the news broke this week about the hundreds of self-reported violations at OSU over the last decade and–more importantly–Tressel getting caught lying to his employer (and the NCAA by extension) dozens of Buckeye fans called into the Paul Finebaum show to vent their rage……..at their school. I remember the Albert Means case at ‘Bama a decade ago and how angered we Tide fans were that anyone would ever question the integrity of the U of A, and Auburn fans have been in twelve shades of anger and denial ever since the Cam Newton story emerged, but here these OSU fans were almost to a man (and woman) being totally objective about the scandal that had suddenly enveloped the school. They were highly critical of their football coach, their president, and even their conference commissioner. I gained all kinds of respect for Buckeye nation as a result.

    But then there are those who always take things too far or simply refuse to acknowledge that their team is knee-deep in dog poo right now, like some of the OSU posters on here (or Andy from Perrysburg on Finebaum’s show). They think that their school is perfection personified, that they do absolutely nothing wrong and that the only reason they’ve not won more national titles–and performed so poorly against the SEC–is because everyone else is cheating while they do things by the book. If there is one thing that gives me a laugh out of all this, it is that these people prove that it isn’t just SEC schools that have whack-jobs in their fan bases.

    As far as Herbstreit is concerned, those of us in SEC country are rather perplexed that OSU fans think he’s been overly criticial of or biased against the Buckeyes. We’ve always thought he was too biased TOWARDS them. Maybe that means he was really neutral after all.

  25. gamecockinfl says: Mar 12, 2011 3:42 PM

    At least he is moving up and getting out of Ohio, like a third of the people in Florida did.

  26. buckeyeboy says: Mar 12, 2011 3:45 PM

    deb, I could call my self an alabama fan, then do nothing but rip on them, does that make me a fan?

    john can live in ohio and say he likes ohio state, but he does not seem to represent this

    but by all means go ahead and claim to be a fan, john, and make all the snide remarks that you like, all the readers on here will truly know what you mean

  27. screw231 says: Mar 12, 2011 4:17 PM

    @florida727 you felt you needed to post the same thing twice? was there a good team in florida this past year? don’t worry you just keep living in 2006 while the rest of keep up to date on the sports of today.

  28. sfaist says: Mar 12, 2011 4:25 PM

    This is very disappointing to hear as an OSU grad. A lot of Buckeye fans (15 – 20% I would estimate) have completely lost any sense of objectivity in how they see all things Ohio State. I don’t agree with everything that Herbie says, but I believe he gives his honest opinion. That is his job after all and something that any fan base needs to hear from time to time.

  29. gwest40 says: Mar 12, 2011 4:38 PM

    I have lived in Cowlumbus, OH for the past 21 years. Sad to say, this story does not surprise me. The former OSU players that I have met or worked with, have been class acts…all of them. The Alumni are a good group as well. Who are the bad fans? They are your OSU “Walmart” fans! You know the type: OSU sweatshirt, tshirt, bumper sticker, license plate, tattoo, window sticker, etc., yet they have absolutely ZERO affiliation with the university. For them, OSU is a sports franchise, not a university. Corn-fed, inbred, Nascar watching, domestic beer drinking, corndog eating, pickup truck driving rednecks. They are loud, obnoxious, and ignorant. I’ve seen them in action over my 21 years here, and I could tell you numerous stories. I personally know 3 couples who have moved away from here simply because they were tired of the obnoxious OSU fans. Sad that Kirk had to leave, but I’m happy he and his family were able to relocate and that they’re safe.

  30. Deb says: Mar 12, 2011 5:06 PM

    @buckeyeboy …

    You’re being ridiculous. John’s not just coming onto the site and ranting about Ohio State. He’s reporting on verified bad behavior among the players, coach, and fans.

    Defending indefensible behavior doesn’t make you a better fan or more loyal. When obnoxious fans run a family out of the state, you blame the fans, not the family. When players violate a rule, you blame the players. When a coach repeatedly lies and puts ineligible players on the field, you blame the coach. John is meeting his professional obligation and being an adult.

    Grow up.

  31. barnesaintnoble says: Mar 12, 2011 5:22 PM

    I’d say the numbers are more like this: 70 Percent of ohio State fans are crazy rednecks who basically belong to the Church of buckeye. And anyone who says one word negative about them is going to feel their wrath. 30 Percent are just plain old rednecks (but not crazy, though). Michigan announcer Bob Ufer once referred to an Ohio State sellout crowd as “10,000 alumni and 74,000 truck drivers.” He was on the right track, just 10,000 truck drivers short. Then again, what would I know, I’m a Michigan fan. =)

  32. edgy says: Mar 12, 2011 5:23 PM

    Baloney. Should you consider me biased against USC because I hold them to a higher standard than the butt heads that thought that the NCAA was too harsh on them? Buckeyeboy you really take the cake. Seriously, just because YOU can’t be objective, doesn’t mean that others are just like you.

  33. buckeyeboy says: Mar 12, 2011 6:01 PM

    oh edgy no little girl comment there?

    if I changed my name to gatorboy and talked a bunch of crap about florida would deb call me being grow up and objective?

    if I said 70% of gator fans are ok and 30% are uneducated hillbillies that take everything to crazily, what would you call me?

    because according to you, john is just “being a professional adult” when he says that about osu lol

    some folks are just so anti Big 10 biased that they don’t take their blinders off when trying to speak. Thank you children deb and edgy

  34. somisseagle says: Mar 12, 2011 6:29 PM

    Ohio State just keeps getting worse and worse and worse. Pathetic.

  35. polegojim says: Mar 12, 2011 6:41 PM

    There are fans and there are fanatics.

    It’s a run of poor choices for the Buckeye team, and sad statement for fans everywhere who don’t have a life.

    The 10% rule applies to any team, any conference, anywhere.

    Go BLUE! Those who remain Passionate with Reason will be Champions!

  36. edgy says: Mar 12, 2011 6:56 PM

    BuckeyeGIRL, if you changed your name to Jesus H Christ or Joseph A Bank, you’d still be the same dweeb that you are and you’d still be homering on whatever team that you claimed to follow.

  37. Deb says: Mar 12, 2011 6:59 PM

    Buckeyeboy …

    I don’t have an anti-Big 10 bias. I have a lot of respect for the history of the Big 10 and Ohio State. And I empathize with Jim Tressel because the man worked hard to build his reputation only to have all this come crashing down on him. I’m sure he wishes he’d made different choices. I also empathize with John Taylor because I’ve had to admit when members of my beloved team weren’t what I thought they were or what they should have been. It’s not fun.

    No one is suggesting that Ohio State is unique. All fan bases have an extreme faction that can’t rationally deal with team missteps or criticism. I hope for most that faction is only 30 percent because I’ve had my own team’s crazies turn on me when I took an unpopular position and wouldn’t wish that on anyone.

    No one is saying you have to bash your team to be an adult. We’re just saying you need to recognize when people break the rules or behave badly. You don’t have to call them out if you don’t want, but don’t slam the guy who does just because he’s doing his job objectively.

  38. cometkazie says: Mar 12, 2011 7:12 PM

    “Real fans,” and not just those associated with OSU, are giving fans who follow and really appreciate the game a bad name.

    “Braying jackasses” is a kind description.

  39. gamecockinfl says: Mar 12, 2011 7:14 PM

    As usual this blog has regressed into an name calling, UNobjective discussion. Talk about the issue or don’t talk. And OSU sux

  40. tryagainplease says: Mar 12, 2011 8:19 PM

    shavesty – i’m using that, just waiting for the chance….

  41. superfbfan says: Mar 12, 2011 8:41 PM

    @ Deb
    Please ignore buckeyeboy….He is a perfect example of the delusional fan-base Kirk is fleeing to Tenn. to escape…..

  42. imneverwrong says: Mar 12, 2011 8:55 PM

    I don’t think Herby has any bad blood towards OSU or hatred even after moving. It is probably more for the sanity and safety of his family which is the most important.

    He has a job to do and he has done it. He probably has been overly anti-OSU at times because if he is all OSU then the entire country would complain about how he was a terrible analyst because he liked his alma matter. It is a shame some people can’t get a grip on this and realize that he bleeds Scarlet and Grey.

    Good luck to Herby in his new home, for the “relentless” Buckeye fans, grow up.

  43. gatorfan1 says: Mar 12, 2011 9:23 PM

    This is a funny story considering all the posts that claim Gator fans as being such homers and unreasonable…especially from all those Buckeye fans.

    Hasn’t been a real good couple of weeks for OSU fans. Hopefully they won’t be as judgemental and stuck on themselves anymore…but doubtful!!

    I’m sure we’ll keep hearing how unethical the SEC is and how the fans don’t care about anything but winning???

  44. buckeyefan1026 says: Mar 12, 2011 9:36 PM

    I am getting so frustrated with all of this negative Ohio State press. I lived in columbus for 4 years and ohio for 21 years. I think that what OSU got in trouble for is ridiculous, although I completely understand the purpose of the rule so that players don’t abuse the system. I think that Tressel not reporting it however, should have led to him being fired, but the program shouldnt have to vacate any wins (be honest, selling their personal property doesn’t effect the game in any way). I am a big fan of Tressel as a coach, and he has done so many great things for OSU, but this was unacceptable.

    As far as the Ohio State fans, it is pointless to try and defend the ignorant a$$holes. Unfortunately all colleges that are as passionate as OSU fans about their team have these bottom %’ers that are embarrassing to a program. Im ashamed that OSU probably has a larger % however.

    [B] I would love if fans could argue their points from a civilized, factual stand point without being biased because I love talking sports with people who aren’t ignorant and irrational [/B]

  45. stairwayto7 says: Mar 12, 2011 9:47 PM

    Enjoy that opoosum pie Kirk! I heard that is a Tennessee desert!

  46. kfiz14 says: Mar 12, 2011 9:47 PM

    It’s a shame everyone is so jealous of tOSU.

  47. stairwayto7 says: Mar 12, 2011 9:50 PM

    What will Kirk do when ESPN Gameday goes to Columbus? Call in sick?

  48. chachooga says: Mar 12, 2011 10:20 PM

    Herbie always overcompensates and boasts up other teams….just so he can snicker as they fold….as a UM fan I can attest. He loves to be their biggest fan and pump them up prematurely every year….I am sure it is partly out of remorse for the biggest travesty in college football history when his Buckeyes got that PT call and won the national championship…..but I am sure it is also so he can snicker when they and others flail with the high expectations he puts on them…..all the while his Buckeyes just hang around and all of sudden…WOW THEY ARE GREAT…and they get into the top 5 as every season ends.

    He knows what he is doing for his team….to bad these fools in his state have zero clue.

  49. nashvilletrojan says: Mar 12, 2011 10:35 PM

    So……OSU people……Why are you so much better than USC (or Reggie Bush)? You had multiples in football alone, including your coach. We had Reggie Bush singular in Football. OJ Mayo in B-Ball. Why should you get a pass????

    perhaps the death penalty (a la SMU) may be appropriate.

    Herbie is spot on.

  50. screw231 says: Mar 12, 2011 10:46 PM

    I love it…

    @gamecockinfl Telling people to talk about the issue or don’t talk and then ending your post with OSU sux doesn’t add to your credibility.

    @all michigan fans I don’t blame you for being salty 8 losses in 9 years can be tough to handle. Maybe some day soon Michigan can actually field a team of football players and we can get back to when OSU vs Michigan actually counted for something. Until then you can just B*tchigan.

    @all the gator fans if I were a gator fan I would be more worried about how my new head coach was going to do this season. It will also be interesting to see if Tressel actually does get fired you know (the best coach in gator history) Urban Myers will be right there to step into his shoes which is a prospect I’m not thrilled with.

    @gatorfan1 your one of my favorite posts. “How unethical the SEC is” is your quote never mind that huge story about the 4 Auburn player dismissed for armed robbery, the whole cam newton thing, how one of your players tried to gouge another players eyes out and your coach sat him for 1 quarter, how nick saban would rather throw his headphones at his players than speak to them like a sane human being, need i go on?

    I guess my point is we all have problems and it is just time for OSU’s problems to come to light. I just wonder which team will actually have a shot at the next national title… Gators? maybe… Michigan? roflmfao…. OSU? (if not banned from a bowl) bet we will be in the mix.

  51. theebuckeye says: Mar 12, 2011 10:55 PM

    It’s always interesting to see remarks from those outside Buckeye Nation. Particularly from the SEC. They seem to be well versed it over signing, over promising and over paying. They remember 2006 very well because of the great results they had, a very significant one achieved by an Ohio Lad who finally could not stand the heat of the fan base. They condone the protectionism of Saben, Bowden, Kiffin, Spurrier etal.

    However they are expert on ESPN and its broadcaster ethics.

    Herbstriet is a FAKE Buckeye, he never had a ring or gold pants and he never supported Ohio State even as a good hearted side comment, such as Mark May, Lee Corso and Lou Holtz.

    The move of Herbstreit was a move intended to do just what it did, draw attention to a fading figure to better talent. Herbstriet had many more supporters than criticizers. He could not stand the critique of his work in any where near the impacting effect as his critique of thee Ohio State University. So he took the easy “highlighted” way out …. he quit, just like he did as a football player. Then used that negative the best way he could to get some value …. well don Herby.

    As to Tatgate …… there are thousands of players with thousands of tattoos playing for hundreds of teams in many sports …. I wonder where they got them, how much they cost, and if any were compromised.

    For the GoBlue crowd, your unwinning FabFive ($500,000) paid players, you really should not throw stones on those who sell personal property to get things, at least what they sold, they owned.

    Herby, you always did love Pete Carroll …. I guess you took a page from his book, he bailed before he got caught …to.

  52. buckeyeboy says: Mar 12, 2011 11:12 PM

    theebuckeye and screw231, being outnumbered 10 to 1 on here gives momentum for these delusional idiots…..these SEC fans get into a crowd and are all big talkers with sickening bias

    I surely will be attacked for this by the dumba** SEC fans lol but that’s the joy in speaking to inferior individuals

  53. nashvilletrojan says: Mar 12, 2011 11:22 PM

    buckeyeboy says:
    Mar 12, 2011 11:12 PM
    theebuckeye and screw231, being outnumbered 10 to 1 on here gives momentum for these delusional idiots…..these SEC fans get into a crowd and are all big talkers with sickening bias

    I surely will be attacked for this by the dumba** SEC fans lol but that’s the joy in speaking to inferior individuals

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    BITE YER TOUNGUE!

    PAC-12 ALL THE WAY!

  54. thatdude32 says: Mar 13, 2011 3:24 AM

    screw231 you prove my point for me,if you really think gettin fined 250 g’s for a guy makin 3 million is really hurtin the weasel pockets then you is on somethin, and no i don’t need to proof read sh*t i’m callin all you crazy ass fans out that seriously need psychiatric help for you your issues if you live and die(literally) by what a sports team does or you get sh**ty about who talks about your team (literally)then you seriously need help i can’t make it any more clearer than that

  55. bucfanintheco says: Mar 13, 2011 5:00 AM

    most of us buckeyes are not bad ppl.sorry kirk !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! blow me and everylone in the co dude 32 ,727 ,

  56. screw231 says: Mar 13, 2011 10:39 AM

    @thatdude32 Actually forming your thoughts into complete sentences, and using a period or two to separate those sentences would make your argument a little clearer.

  57. bonerchamp says: Mar 13, 2011 10:45 AM

    The harassment must have gotten out of control for Herbstreit to make this story national news.
    He knew that this would not only embarrass the fans but the university and pretty much all of Ohio and ostracize him from the community.
    What does that say Buckeye fan?
    Unfortunately, the majority of football fans (college and pro) are like this.
    Get a grip people!

  58. jtsel81 says: Mar 13, 2011 10:55 AM

    The Crooks of Columbus are heading to the Toilet Bowl this year!!!!! HaHaHa here’s to wishing Ohio State the worst!!!! What a classy group of players, fans & coaches!!!!

  59. burntorangehorn says: Mar 13, 2011 11:24 AM

    Some people think it’s actually a good thing to be a blind, irrational, rabid fan of a program. Others actually care about reason and order.

  60. motherscratcher23 says: Mar 13, 2011 12:00 PM

    I’m an tOSU alumnus and a huge fan. I always liked Kirk. I think he does a great job on Gameday and is one of the best commentators out there. I believe he does as good a job as can be done in being objective. Everybody is human and nobody is going to get it 100% right all of the time.

    It makes me sad that Kirk had to move because of some OSU fan morons. They really aren’t representative of tOSU fan base as a whole, but I know there are a lot of them out there. I see them on message boards daily.

    I doubt that percentage wise tOSU is any worse than any other big school football factory is. But tOSU is a big school, so there are a lot of fans. It is undeniable that a lot of them are idiots.

    I just want people to know that they don’t speak for or represent the vast majority of tOSU fans. I have many many friends who feel the same way about it.

    Good luck Kirk.

    Far out, man.

  61. lasseter1113 says: Mar 13, 2011 12:15 PM

    So rednecks don’t just live here in Alabama? It is so nice to hear you guys not talking about us for a change. Nice read John…

  62. edgy says: Mar 13, 2011 12:35 PM

    CFB fans all over are just plain nuts. For the most part, the big STATE schools have the worst fans because 90% of them didn’t even go to that school OR even college (Let’s face it, the fans of smaller schools like Upper North Eastern Missouri Community College Of Sandusky, Ohio are probably 99% alumni while the fans of Ohio State are more likely fans that never went to the school).

    There have been several high profile Oklahoma vs Texas incidents over the past several years and outside of the game in Dallas, 99% of them have involved NO ALUMNI and in most cases, NO college ATTENDEES and the sad part is that they make national news and its the schools that get the black eye and not the jerks that didn’t even go to the schools. While the alumni of a lot of schools can get over the top, they’re usually more rational than most of the jerks that give their schools a bad name (like that goober in Alabama). I don’t blame the alumni for what happened with Kirk, I blame the BEBs, who can’t help but act like little children when their team is criticized – even when they deserve it.

  63. ihateannouncers says: Mar 13, 2011 1:07 PM

    I am a Buckeye grad, and make it to about half the home games each year. It always bothers me listening to how stupid and SPOILED some ( 20%??) of our fans are during the games, post game call in shows etc.. This takes the Buckeye Nation to a new low. This is a ridiculous embarrassment. I know that every team in every sport has there share and I confirm that by reading some of the posts on this and other sites ( PFT / PHT), but it is truly sad to see it sink to this level. I have always said that just because they are wearing Scarlet and Gray, doesn’t mean they are not idiots!!
    I will also add that theses sites confirm that there are alot of great fans from all schools / teams (Ohio State included) that love to discuss sports as educated rational people. That will keep me coming back to join in the banter.

  64. gatorfan1 says: Mar 13, 2011 3:13 PM

    screw231:

    No doubt OSU WILL be in the mix…how could they not be in that conference???

    And no doubt the SEC Champion (whoever that is) is licking their chops hoping to play OSU in the NC game. Everybody in the SEC pray they make it every year!!!

    I mean the 2 biggest blow outs in NC games in the last 15 years have been OSU.

    WHO wouldn’t want to see them in the mix!!!!

  65. BrownsTown says: Mar 13, 2011 5:59 PM

    This seems a bit feigned to me. What are the odds that he wanted to move anyway and this is his cover? Besides, he’s forced to move, but he’ll still do a local show?

    I do tend to agree that he overdoes it to prove that he’s not biased, but I’m more outraged at the ESPNbot that he’s become, with the catchphrases and platitudes, more than I am with how he treats his alma mater.

    This is one of the better writeups I’ve seen. It gives the cynical OSU fan perspective:

    http://www.elevenwarriors.com/2011/01/herbie-the-impaler

  66. BrownsTown says: Mar 13, 2011 6:11 PM

    Haha, Hillbilly Nation rears its ugly head (literally and figuratively). Shouldn’t you all be out greasing the grates on your smokers getting ready for spring ball?

    Gator smack? Lots of talk from fans of an unranked team. I’ll listen to Tulsa fans since they finished in the top 25. But UF?

  67. tomosbornesretirementcostjoepaatitle says: Mar 13, 2011 7:12 PM

    @ buckeyefan1026 says:

    Allow me.

    They should vacate the wins due to the fact that Tressel knowingly did not report the names of two players for a MAJOR violation of NCAA rules. Those players also happened to be a Heisman candidate and the second leading receiver.

    Can any non-OSU fan in here name the backup QB?

    Had the players been said backup and some scrub off the practice team I feel confident that Tressel would have acted quickly. What is playing out is serious, according to NCAA rules. Had those players been reported, they would not have been eligible, think 1/3 of UNC this year.

    I am in no way saying the rule is correct, the $$$ in cfb is mindboggling, and i can see both sides of paying players.

    And zero @#%&!ng profanity or namecalling.

  68. olskool711 says: Mar 13, 2011 7:32 PM

    Isn’t there anyway we can get back to the “TCU and Boise State wouldn’t kick the crap out of us if they had to play our schedule week in and week out thing?”

    I long for those days.

    Auburn Arrests
    Alabama Horticultural Terrorism
    And Da ohio state universities longing for Woody to come back so they could actually be relevant again is…

    boring.

  69. Deb says: Mar 13, 2011 7:50 PM

    @BrownsTown …

    Great article, though I’ve always assumed the griping about ESPN favoring the SEC was just bitter grapes from other conferences. But I rarely watch ESPN anymore because they’ve become a caricature of themselves.

    Maybe Herbstreit rated OSU down because of tattoo-gate. Obviously there was no football justification for that ranking, and if I were an OSU fan, I’d have been pissed. But in hindsight, his dislike of Pryor may have been justified; he may wind up costing OSU most of last season’s wins.

    Took Herbstreit’s story about the move at face value because my family and I have seen what can happen when your pro and college fan bases turn on you. World is full of crazies. But maybe he was BS-ing. Hope not, given all the other negative publicity trained on Ohio State right now.

  70. buckeyefan1026 says: Mar 13, 2011 8:40 PM

    @tomosbornesretirementcostjoepaatitle

    some excellent points, and I completely agree with you. What the players did in my mind, is a minor violation being grouped in with similar major violations so that it is easier to enforce and isn’t abused since players will risk it if its only a 1 game suspension or something.

    What they did in no way effects the game played, or them coming to OSU, but the NCAA just doesnt have any other way of punishing players. Why can a student on scholarship make money from tutoring, but an athlete on scholarship that can’t work not sell something that belongs to them?

    Shame on Tressel for not reporting it. I am sure that he, and every other coach in the NCAA, see it as a small violation that can ruin a season and decided to risk it.

    This to me is like losing an arm for stealing an apple. Unfortunately, if the law says “don’t steal an apple, or you will lose an arm”, then it is you own fault for being an idiot. So now we must live with the consequences, no matter how blown out of proportion it may be.

  71. ihateannouncers says: Mar 13, 2011 8:43 PM

    It would be nice to have Herbie explain his thought process. It seems appearant that something wasn’t sitting right with him. Could be Prior, the fans in Columbus harassing him, or a combination of both. Maybe he realized that it was time to get away from the daily barrage that is Buckeye Nation Cloumbus Chapter, because it was making him say and do abnormal things, like come up with that final ballot.

  72. tomosbornesretirementcostjoepaatitle says: Mar 13, 2011 9:03 PM

    buckeyefan1026

    One thing that you are failing to grasp is that what Tressel failed to do DID affect the games in that those two players, plus the other three eventually, would not have been allowed to play.

  73. buckeyefan1026 says: Mar 14, 2011 6:02 AM

    tomosbornesretirementcostjoepaatitle

    my last post on this thread:

    I completely grasp that concept. I was just stating that I think the law the players got in trouble for is overpunished and should only be a 1 game suspension at the most.

    Selling your personal property does not effect football. Tressel not reporting it is unexcusable however, and he should either be fired or have a 6 game 500k fine imo because there is alot more accountability in a coach than players.

    However, the rule is in place and I agreed with you in the previous response:

    “Unfortunately, if the law says ‘don’t steal an apple, or you will lose an arm’, then it is you own fault for being an idiot. So now we must live with the consequences, no matter how blown out of proportion it may be.”

  74. sprizzle2182 says: Mar 14, 2011 8:58 AM

    WOW….thats pretty sad OSU fans ((the ones we’re all referring too))….to run off one of your own for doing his job?? if you were getting paid to talk about the SPORT not the school, don’t you think you would do the same thing?? His job is to appeal to the entire country and to provide for his family, not to coddle your emotions and make sure that what he’s saying makes yall feel all warm and fuzzy…i don’t think i would have picked tenn to move to, but thats just me…hopefully his family enjoys it!!! and hopefully OSU fans take the first 5 games of next season to think about what they’ve done…seeing as how they won’t have a reason to be watching the games!!!

  75. edgy says: Mar 14, 2011 9:39 AM

    buckeyefan1026 says:

    *******************

    It’s more than just “personal property” because the school doesn’t hand out gold pants or rings to the student body. Some have tried to make a distinction between this and others because those involved “agents” but that’s another red herring (One reason why gambling on other sports is a no no is because even though you’re not gambling on YOUR sport, you could lose enough money to owe someone and the only way you might be able to pay them back is to shave a few points for them. One activity seems so innocent until you look at the big picture). Just because they sold it to a guy at a tattoo parlor doesn’t mean that an agent couldn’t go through a third party to launder money to his “clients” and while doesn’t seem to be the case, who’s to say that it won’t or hasn’t happened. After all, runners, who really aren’t agents, are considered the same because they work on behalf of the agent.

  76. 10kmp says: Mar 14, 2011 11:21 AM

    Herbstreit is arrogant, egocentric and thin skinned. Funny how Chris Spielman, Robert Smith, and Clark Kellogg, Ohio State Alums, Columbus residents, and ESPN/CBS national sports personalities, don’t have the same problem as Kirk Herbstreit. Spielman and Kellogg are both beloved in Columbus, and both are objective/fair when doing games for their respective networks. What none of them do, however, is go out of their way to demean Ohio State in order to prove to the nation that they aren’t OSU homers. Herbstreit goes out of his way to convince anyone willing to listen that he is not an Ohio State sympathizer, and in doing so he actually has become biased AGAINST the Buckeyes. Does any other commentator have this issue? The OSU names mentioned above, Desmond Howard, Lou Holtz, Craig James, Mike Golic, Todd Blackledge, et al. Any of them? Strange how this problem is specific to Kirk Herbstreit. Lighten up Herbstreit: You are not, contrary to what you might think, curing cancer at ESPN. You read a tele prompter, pick a few games every week, and do average color commentary every Saturday night. What a joke…

  77. dkhhuey says: Mar 14, 2011 1:16 PM

    As a Buckeye fan – I am sad to hear that because he doesn’t always pull a ‘Lou Holtz’ when it comes to commentating on his Alma Mater that he has been forced to flee the place where he and his family have deep roots.

    I like Herbstreit as an analyst, as an ambassador to the university, and a great, decent human being. However, I don’t blindly agree with everything he says. That being said, right or wrong, it absolutely would never even remotely cross my mind to physically confront him or anybody else. Its should absolutely NEVER come to this, regardless of what university you support. It thoroughly blows my mind that there are such grossly clueless and ignorant people out there that resort to this pathetic behavior. These are extreme morons that have lost touch with reality, have no sense of common decency and personal etiquette.

  78. waynefontes says: Mar 19, 2011 11:50 AM

    He’s wanting to escape from relentless college football fans, and he moves to Tennessee?

    Should’ve gone to North Carolina instead.

  79. jfcohio says: Mar 21, 2011 2:26 PM

    The Ohio State University fans are totally out-of-control.

    Signed,

    The ’86 Bosox & ’03 Cubs fans

  80. quadrophenia1 says: Apr 26, 2011 11:15 AM

    Ever been to Columbus? If anyone there says ANYTHING negative about Buckeyes football….. it’s considered the equivalent of spitting on your own Mother’s grave! If the Columbus Dispatch newspaper ever dared to print something nigative regarding the Buckeyes, the local yahoos would storm the Columbus Dispatch building and tear it apart, brick by brick with their bare hands. Going to Columbus is just like visiting those fanatical SEC schools in the Deep South.

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