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Sports Illustrated reveals Tressel’s lengthy, reportedly dirty history

Jim Tressel

As it turns out, Harold Camping wasn’t completely wrong about the date of the rapture; he was a week or so early and the day of judgement was merely quarantined to Columbus, Ohio.

And the rapture was swift.

It took months of building, but it was over before anyone had a chance to realize what had happened. Jim Tressel, after 10 seasons as one of Ohio State’s most successful coaches next to Woody Hayes, was forced to resign. While the resignation happened much sooner than anyone had reasonably expected, rumblings of a Sports Illustrated reveal last week might have been the final thread holding Tressel’s sweater vest intact.

“I’m told it is likely my SI mag story will be posted at later today/tonight. Timing of Tress dec[ision]. will make sense after you read it,” article author George Dohrmann tweeted earlier today.

And it does make sense that Tressel was forced to resign given his history. Boy, does it ever.

The in-depth look into Tressel’s history of NCAA shortcomings, which can be read HERE, paints a  jumbled picture of priorities and ethics that would make even Picasso scratch his head in confusion.

“Yet while Tressel’s admirable qualities have been trumpeted, something else essential to his success has gone largely undiscussed,” the article states. “his ignorance.”

It starts with Ohio State’s most recent allegations surrounding the six Buckeye players who sold memorabilia items for discounted tattoos and other impermissible benefits. That was just the beginning.

“SI learned that the memorabilia-for-tattoos violations actually stretched back to 2002, Tressel’s second season at Ohio State, and involved at least 28 players — 22 more than the university has acknowledged. Those numbers include, beyond the six suspended players, an additional nine current players as well as nine former players whose alleged wrongdoing might fall within the NCAA’s four-year statute of limitations on violations.

“One former Buckeye, defensive end Robert Rose, whose career ended in 2009, told SI that he had swapped memorabilia for tattoos and that “at least 20 others” on the team had done so as well. SI’s investigation also uncovered allegations that Ohio State players had traded memorabilia for marijuana and that Tressel had potentially broken NCAA rules when he was a Buckeyes assistant coach in the mid-1980s.”

Dohrmann also explores Tressel’s management between then-quarterback Ray Issac and Mickey Monus, a wealthy school trustee and the founder of the Phar-Mor chain of drug stores, while Tressel was with Youngstown State. According to the report, upward of 13 players were illegally holding jobs at Phar-Mor and Issac, in addition to collecting roughly $10,000 in cash from Monus, was also driving a car provided by Phar-Mor.

Tressel was aware of the car. At times, Isaac told SI, he asked the coach for help in getting out of traffic tickets. “He’d slot out two hours to meet and say, ‘Ray, I need you to read this book and give me 500 words on why it’s important to be a good student-athlete,'” Isaac says. Afterward the ticket would sometimes disappear, which, if Tressel intervened, would be an NCAA infraction.”

Less than a year before Tressel took the job with Ohio State, Youngstown State announced self-imposed sanctions, including the loss of two scholarships.

At Ohio State, Tressel reportedly turned a blind eye to former running back Maurice Clarett and quarterback Troy Smith, both of whom received improper benefits from boosters.

“The Clarett and [Robert Q.]Baker scandals were further evidence that Tressel was, at best, woefully ignorant of questionable behavior by his players and not aggressive enough in preventing it. At worst, he was a conduit for improper benefits, as Clarett alleged,” the article accuses.

Clarett, Smith, Pryor — the list goes on.

In the end, even if a portion of the reports in the SI article are true, Tressel deserved to be fired. Because, let’s face it, it’s doubtful he resigned by his own accord.

But among the myriad of allegations and accusations of wrongdoings, the fact of the matter is that Jim Tressel lied to the NCAA. And however misguided and bureaucratic the NCAA is, a coach simply can’t do that.

No matter how much a man of character he is proclaimed to be.
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89 Responses to “Sports Illustrated reveals Tressel’s lengthy, reportedly dirty history”
  1. pryor4heisman says: May 30, 2011 10:03 PM

    Nothing really new here. These idiots are taking credit forcing Tressel out?? What a pathetic joke.

    They will sell alot of magazines and thats the point…

  2. pryor4heisman says: May 30, 2011 10:07 PM

    Bunch of anonymous source CACA. Part 2 of story coming out tomorrow. “Anonymous old lady claims Jim Tressel cut her off in traffic”


  3. edgy and imtalking are one in the same says: May 30, 2011 10:11 PM

    it is kind of sad we must resort to unproven claims by anonymous members

    if TWO different guys do not wanna give their names to back up their claims, how can they be taken as reasonable?

    “Ellis” says he showed pictures of 11 bags of marijuana and said they are photos of the shop……if someone takes pictures of drugs in the horseshoe does that mean a drug ring is occurring inside of the stadium and that anyone who has ever stepped foot in there is guilty?

    I can claim I saw $cam take the money in a briefcase, does that prove anything?

  4. jsdriscoll says: May 30, 2011 10:17 PM

    OK so we’re three for three on story commenters being in denial. Tressel effed up in a big way, and most likely for more than one year. Can’t you just accept that?

  5. gatorprof says: May 30, 2011 10:22 PM

    If true, this does begin to paint a picture of “lack of institutional control”

  6. jaggedmark says: May 30, 2011 10:24 PM

    What I got out of the story:

    There are numerous more names and areas that can be questioned and investigated by the 100’s of national reporters now, instead of just sports illustrated.

    More will come up now for sure.

  7. brownsfrown says: May 30, 2011 10:25 PM

    Phew! Thank the Lord this is all they did!

    I thought they might have caught a destitute parent shopping their cheating kid for cash!

    Thankfully we have the NCAA to hammer out minor transgressions like this so they don’t explode into major violations like that, and maybe tainting a national championship!

  8. bamasucks says: May 30, 2011 10:34 PM


    thanks for making this story even more enjoyable. “minor transgressions” and the investigation isn’t even over. OSU is screwed.

    if you have any proof that Auburn cheated, send it to the NCAA.

  9. mrcowpatty says: May 30, 2011 10:45 PM

    I wonder how many other head coaches and A.D are getting ready to shit their pants.

  10. nashvilletrojan says: May 30, 2011 10:46 PM

    Fight On! At least USC won’t be alone as NCAA stepchildren anymore.

    Next up, Auburn Tigers and NC Tarheels. Before this is whole thing is over, it’s going to end up being Washington State versus Temple in the BCS Nat. Championship. lol

  11. jaggedmark says: May 30, 2011 10:46 PM

    True report earlier that Pryor was seen driving a Nissan 350Z with temporary plates.

    I speculate that the tags on Pryor’s Nissan 350z are temporary, because his custom made “Dumbass” plates are still being made.

  12. edgy and imtalking are one in the same says: May 30, 2011 10:47 PM

    yes because anything that I said was incorrect, thank you, dumbsh** jdriscall

  13. patbocam says: May 30, 2011 11:02 PM

    How many folks work for the NCAA on these investigations? Between auburn, north Carolina, Tennessee (b-ball), Ohio st, Oregon, etc. I would think they are a little thin. I would expect a lot of these “investigations” would wrap up quick (even if that’s not the norm). They can’t drop the hammer on one and not all……right?

  14. gatorfan1 says: May 30, 2011 11:15 PM

    @edgy and imtalking are one in the same says:

    Hey dumb***. The beginning of this post CLEARLY states Tressel was forced out an did not resign on his own, as you previously tried to state in another post.

    Another EPIC fail by a moron….

  15. joerevs300 says: May 30, 2011 11:18 PM

    What it all comes down to for OSU is this:

    – Will the NCAA see their firing of Jim Tressel as due acknowledgement of the obvious NCAA violating culture that existed at Ohio State, and slap them on the wrist (i.e. vacating the 2010 season, maybe a couple lost scholarships, etc)?


    – Is the NCAA going to set another example like they did with USC, and drop the hammer, likely setting Ohio State back 3-4 seasons with forfeiture of scholarships, a 1-2 year postseason ban, and vacating the 2010 season?

    IMHO, had Ohio State fired Tressel at the FIRST sign he covered something up, the NCAA probably would have gone much easier on them.


    – The whole “I’m hoping he doesn’t fire me” comment from Gee
    – The “laughable” 2 game suspension, and then Tressel “for the good of his players” decides to sit 5
    – The 2nd event where he lied to the NCAA about what he knew

    Combine all of that together and I think OSU is far from out of the woods yet, despite their best effort to shift the narrative to it all being Tressel’s fault.

    Nice way to treat a coach who gave you so much tOSU. Whoever is up next, be prepared to be whacked if you step even an inch out of line.

    Or start losing to Michigan.

  16. jsdriscoll says: May 30, 2011 11:20 PM

    Yo edgy and imtalking are one in the same says–The proof is in the resignation. Hello? SI comes calling on Friday and Tressel resigns today? If there’s something to defend he stays put. Pull your head out of Tpeezy’s a$$.

  17. TxGrown says: May 30, 2011 11:32 PM

    “pryor4heisman cries:…..wah….wah…wah!”

  18. Deb says: May 30, 2011 11:33 PM

    Tressel is gone, so it no longer matters what he knew or didn’t know. As I’ve said all along, fire everyone still with the program who knew about the infractions, suspend every current player involved, ban every booster involved from attending OSU games for life, and vacate the necessary wins. Once the guilty are punished, that should be the end of it.

    But what is up with more than two dozen players over nearly a decade trading memorabilia for tattoos. Was it an initiation ritual? Good grief.

  19. jeffreyperria says: May 30, 2011 11:44 PM

    @edgy and imtalking are one in the same says,

    you’re complaining about anonymous players getting a coach fired. I hope you are an Ohio State fan so I can point out the Ironic nature of those comments, because those anonymous players are the ones that got Michigan in trouble for practicing too long. by the way.. Kettle the pot is calling.
    Truth is, anonymous sources is how a lot of news gets broken in the world today. if you didn’t have that, then there would not be much news at all. I would say 90% ( might be a little of a percentage) of all conspiracy or corruption cases are broken due an anonymous source. quit bitching and take your medicine… if you are an Ohio State fan

  20. edgy and imtalking are one in the same says: May 31, 2011 12:13 AM

    wow and the jizz is on gatorfans face

    I said they would never fire him……semantically, did they fire him?

    glad that gator edumacation makes you not know the difference between firing and resigning

    I mean people say he was forced, tressel, gee, and smith said that tressel resigned, do you have more info over the people in the situation?!?!

    I didnt know that sister-lovers had inside info to osu’s football program

  21. oruacat2 says: May 31, 2011 12:31 AM

    I’m just grateful those poor Buckeye players were spared the humiliation of missing that Bowl game…

  22. imsmartandyouarenot says: May 31, 2011 1:11 AM

    Fear not OSU fans. For when the smoke finally clears, I will turn my attention away from OSU while they lick their wounds and prepare for a decade of watching Nebraska own their Conference.

    My new focus will be Butch Davis.

  23. emilyscupcakeshoppe says: May 31, 2011 1:20 AM

    I think its hilarious that everyone is taking the word of a man CURRENTLY SITTING IN JAIL! That was their biggest source. Do you people really hate Ohio State so much that you are oblivious to this? Oh and then they quoted Ray Small, MULTIPLE time. That is the most laughable thing I’ve ever heard. Then they didn’t even inform people about him recanting his statements. OR the fact that Ray Small was contradicted by another player in the same article they used as proof! Pretty much a complete loss of journalistic integrity.

  24. wildddkattt80 says: May 31, 2011 1:24 AM

    I get so sick of coaches professing to be Christian and profess all that morality and behind the scenes, they are just nasty liars who will do anything to win. Face it. He walked with millions and he was fired! I am glad I have my job and lose all those millions?! Someone has to come up with a better contract and not let these cheaters walk away like this.

  25. frug says: May 31, 2011 1:41 AM

    I would just like to remind everyone that an anonymous source brought down Richard Nixon and another led to an investigation that resulted in Scooter Libby being sentenced to federal prison.

  26. imsmartandyouarenot says: May 31, 2011 1:43 AM


    Don’t let the actions of a few bad apples taint all coaches.

    Bob Stoops and the OU program is the standard by which class and integrity is measured

  27. oddte says: May 31, 2011 2:01 AM

    None of this comes as a suprise, and this is coming from a person who has always liked Jim Tressel. All this really shows, in my mind, is that cheating in professional sports its MUCH more widespread than fans are willing to believe. As soon as a team or player starts to dominate their sport allegations of cheating often follow and are usually proven to be true. Lance Armstrong, Barry Bonds, the Patriots, USC. The list goes on and on. While cheating is wrong and should always be punished, it will continue as long as teams and participants feel that they will be beaten by lesser competitors if they take the high road. I don’t see that changing any time soon, not with that much money at stake. The only surpise to me is that people continue to act surprised about this.

  28. polegojim says: May 31, 2011 2:02 AM

    The expose is more Tats and Cars.

    Bad decisions, yes. Poor judgement, yes.
    Deserving of discipline, yes.
    More common than you think, YES.
    Using Tressel to send a message, Absolutely.
    Provide OSU a HUGE recruiting edge – not even remotely.

    Did he deserve to lose his job… ok, I’ll correct to ‘most likely’. The biggest deal to me is still lying, not the infractions. But frankly, you can fix both. It’s done all the time.

    Eat crow – not. The man is still far better than his errors. Body of work is the measurement. He affected far more for positive than negative.

  29. Justin says: May 31, 2011 2:55 AM

    The man is still far better than his errors. Body of work is the measurement. He affected far more for positive than negative.


    That is what the article is bringing to light. His whole body of work includes NCAA allegations thus tainting his whole body of work.

    and the guy saying it is not true because one of their sources is in jail I would say what does he have to lose by telling the truth? Unless his bunkmate is a big OSU fan.

  30. alan3008 says: May 31, 2011 3:49 AM

    Tressel is and incompetent idiot. Good coach, but and incompetent idiot. He is paid all that money and cannot follow simple rules? I hope the university doesn’t have to pay him anything for the next three years of his contract. Good to read in the attached article that any penalties will follow him if he coaches college football again. Too bad this is is going to hurt OSU football for YEARS. I would like to see them cut all players accused of this crap. Cut them in the middle of the season, so it is too late for them to go to another school. Start with that bastard named Pryor. Again, see the attached article… Click on the word “HERE”.

  31. diablito0402 says: May 31, 2011 7:34 AM

    I will never watch another ncaa football game. The ncaa is supposed to crack down and be real strict on violations of such,( reggie bush situation) but they had a chance to make a big statement with scam newton going to the highest bidder and didn’t do a damm thing because they had the national championship game coming up. Rating, publicity and millions of dollars where going to be lost if newton didn’t play that game. So all this the ncaa is doing is good today because it aint getting in their way to make as much money. Shame on them.

  32. Blogger Patrol says: May 31, 2011 7:55 AM

    diablito0402 – stop embarrassing yourself on here! Never watch another NCAA game my arse!

  33. Blogger Patrol says: May 31, 2011 7:57 AM

    alan – “Tressel is and incompetent idiot. Good coach, but and incompetent idiot.” Firstly, it’s “… an …” and secondly, what’s the difference between an incompetent idiot and a competent one? Your blue collar’s showing, son. Time to go home and brush your TOOTH!

  34. rjsjr says: May 31, 2011 8:11 AM

    What I learned from this article that I didn’t already know: 0

    Really, if Ray Small isn’t taken seriously by anyone why should an admitted drug addict, a convict and two anonymous sources associated with the drug addict and convict? What do they have to gain? Not much. What do they have to lose? Even less.

    Tressel sh0uld have and did resign for lying to the NCAA. This article brought nothing new to light that would have pushed him closer to the door. Half of it was rehashing Tressel’s past which everyone would know about if they cared to look anyway.

    Dohrmann’s tweet saying the article will explain why Tressel’s resignation timing is the most self-aggrandizing move I’ve seen in a long time. I expected the lid to be blown off the program and all I got was a short history and testimonials from an anonymous coach accusing Tressel of rigging a raffle.

    I feel let down by the build up of this piece of crap.

  35. tryagainplease says: May 31, 2011 8:54 AM

    ‘The man is still far better than his errors. Body of work is the measurement. He affected far more for positive than negative.’

    or he’s really good at playing eddie haskell. and who knows what’s left to come out and how the ncaa will handle the info- it may turn out his effect on the program was more negative than positive.

  36. dryzzt23 says: May 31, 2011 9:00 AM

    A wise man once said “Don’t believe everything you read unless you can verify it factually via multiple other sources”

    I don’t believe this SI article at all, I don’t read “columnists” and I don’t believe everything that the sports media says.

    Why? Because they all have something to SELL and they use pro and college sports to spew their rhetoric.

    Where is SI’s investigation of the NCAA and their nefarious practices? I wonder if they have investigated if any gifts were exchanged b/w the NCAA/BCS and the Bowl committee members, if so then why is that not a violation of the NCAA’s own rules?

    I am so tired of the NCAA saying one thing and doing another. Don’t they think that USC, Alabama, OSU, and other major schools getting into trouble is a sign that they need to tear down their “rulebook” and revise it for practicality?

  37. macbull says: May 31, 2011 9:01 AM

    No doubt, the great SI wants to get their publicity and credit for forcing Tressel out.

    I can’t wait to hear the earth shattering news.

    Looking at how this website has targeted Ohio State, with biased reporting hyping the story as much as they possibly can to garner “more eyes” and “advertising dollars”…it does not surprise me that SI can’t wait to jump aboard this biased anti Ohio State bandwagon.

    Is Jim Tressel the only coach in college football to know some of his players sold their memorabilia to pay for tattoos?

    Surely, Mike Florio, John Taylor and this website are checking into other schools and coaches who have violated NCAA rules? Which college will be your next target?

    OK, I will help Mike, John and the rest of the writers and investigative reporters of CFT/PFT…I will give you one of my personal tips…ALABAMA and NICK SABAN.

    BUT this website appears to be so “scared” of Nick Saban and Alabama. Florio and Taylor won’t even print the name “Nick Saban” in connection with the story about the HS recruit who was taken out of state and held there for two days, by an Alabama booster just after the recruit had visited Nick Saban and Alabama, this year.

    That HS 5 star recruit was held in a motel in Florida for at least two days, returning just hours before the start of signing day…Nick Saban got his man.

    The same recruit…there are rumors of cars and payments to family members, yet this website will not even print Nick Saban’s name in relation to these potential recruiting violations.

    THERE IS A LOT OF HYPE GOING ON about Tressel lying about a couple of his players selling their memorabilia to pay for tattoos.

    Will Mike Florio, John Taylor and this website hold the rest of college football to the same scrutiny and standard that they have applied to Ohio State and Tressel?

    OR, will Mike Florio, John Taylor and this website come off as nothing more than a bunch of anti-Ohio State/Jim Tressel hating media shills doing as much as they possibly can to HYPE this case?

    So far, Jim Tressel is guilty of knowing some of his players sold their memorabilia to pay for tattoos.

  38. gatorfan1 says: May 31, 2011 9:02 AM

    @edgy and imtalking are one in the same says:

    YOU are the only idiot on this board who will not admit Tressel was forced out!!

    That includes other OSU fans WHO are admitting as much.

    How does it feel being the ONLY idiot who doesn’t know something…somehow, something tells me it’s not the first time, nor will it be the last time, for you to be the only idiot IN the room…

  39. fightingwombat says: May 31, 2011 9:40 AM

    I’ve said this a couple of times before on this board…the NCAA will not go after one of the “big programs” for their “lack of institutional control”. Can you see USC, OSU, Bama, Florida, etc…getting the Death Penalty ? They are the cash cows…and I’m sure that the boosters are not afraid of “exerting influence” on the NCAA.

    Tressel screwed up…he lied to the school and the NCAA about what happened, and had at least two opportunities to come clean on this. My big question – what did the school prez and AD know about this, and were they complicit in the affair?

  40. htimsr40 says: May 31, 2011 9:46 AM

    The SI report broadened the allegations about current transgressions at OSU, but truly didn’t reveal anything about Tressel’s past that wasn’t common knowledge … and commonly ignored by OSU, the NCAA and the media.

    The trail of benefits to star players for Tressel from Isaac at YSU to Clarett, Smith and Pryor at OSU was well known. St. Tressel always managed to “not know” what was going on in his extremely hands-on program, avoiding personal responsibility. In the latest case, he denied knowledge until the email and phone trail showed that story to be a lie. In other words, Tressel got careless, perhaps for the first time in his career.

    He no longer had “plausible deniability” that he was aware of violations.

    Tressel obviously is not alone in this. For example, who among the media will act surprised if a Calapari eventually makes a mistake and it is discovered that he has personal involvement in extra benefits going to his recruits? No one will investigate the way SI is now investigating Tressel until that story already blows up. Saban, Chizik, etc etc. Pete Carroll was a Tressel-like saint until his program was exposed.

    This is a symbiotic relationship. The media don’t like to stick their noses into the trash because they benefit from the prominence of college sports. The writers have access and status. SI and ESPN make BIG MONEY off these sports. So, until it can’t be helped, the modus operandi is to look the other way and pretend. Any decent investigative reporter could come in and blow the lid off the corruption at any of 20 different programs with two weeks of effort.

    And that may be understating the breadth of the problem. Remember, Tressel’s problems started in Division I-AA … not even big-time college football. If a player like Ray Isaac is receiving five-figure assistance in I-AA, what does any decent I-A player stand to make?

  41. blitz4848 says: May 31, 2011 9:51 AM

    “8 yrs” of trading for tattoos and weed =


    President Gee and AD Smith are “TOAST!”

  42. polegojim says: May 31, 2011 10:21 AM

    @ Justin and Tryagain

    Looking at the situation through fresh wounds, you’d think so, but not really.

    Where would you be if held to your words?

    Worse than Tressel I suspect.

  43. Deb says: May 31, 2011 10:55 AM

    Blogger Patrol, get off your high horse. I agree that diablito0402 sounds infantile when he rants that he’s never going to watch another NCAA game. But America was built by blue-collar workers and our economy was just shredded by white-collar Wall Streeters and bankers. So spare me the one-tooth ridicule of blue-collar types.

    And macbull, Alabama has more National Championships than any other school. Auburn’s only championship came when they brought in a six-figure ringer. Unfortunately, no one can prove it … yet. But whine all you like about Nick Saban. All that nonsense stirred up by Auburn’s rivals site was pure BS and the NCAA is smart enough to know it. Nick’s no angel, but he’s too smart for that. Try to stay on point.

  44. tryagainplease says: May 31, 2011 11:01 AM

    polegojim says: Where would you be if held to your words?

    well let’s see i’ve been in the real world work force for around 10 years now and if i couldn’t be held to my words and actions i figure i would have been canned from at least one job by now. weak, very weak, poor tressel i mean all he did was lie and evidently kept his eyes shut for 10 years now.

  45. edgy and imtalking are one in the same says: May 31, 2011 11:09 AM

    blitz do you gave anything to back up your ranting tha gee wil be fired or are you just here to troll?

  46. ice90 says: May 31, 2011 11:17 AM

    So what they’re saying is Tressel had to cheat to build the most overrated football program in the country? Yeah…………. I guess that does suck.

  47. dkhhuey says: May 31, 2011 11:24 AM

    NOTE: All of the following is an opinion from an OSU grad:

    I read the article many times and came to this conclusion – there is really nothing of any further significance that it is reporting. Yes, like any huge program, you have idiotic athletes who, in their minds, are above the rules. You also have asinine boosters, business owners, agents, etc., swirling around and tempting these stars with all kinds of perks. I’m not here to stand and judge – just pointing out facts of life.

    NO MATTER how hard and how often a university pounds the rules into their head they have two distinct disadvantages in ensuring their athletes are not violating them: 1 – they do not have the resources to assign 1 compliance employee to every single athlete to monitor their actions every single minute of the day. 2 – The bottom line, if a kid wants to break the rules, there is no way on this earth you’re going to stop it.

    So for you puritans out there scream institutional control – PLEASE enlighten me on how you, as the overseer of thousands and thousands of athletes, are going to know if a kid has a new 200 dollar tat whether they paid for it, traded for it, or had a friend/relative pay for it? How are you going to know if a manager at a restaurant comped their meals just to have them there? How are you going to know if every single car was paid for by a relative, financed by the student normally, or through some shady backroom deal? Ask the student because I’m guessing he isn’t going to tell you the truth! Then what, torture, accuse unjustly? Please, enlighten me on how your perfect society works!

    Am I condoning all of this – hell no! But I am being very pragmatic in understand that if a kid wants something, regardless of knowing right from wrong, they will do it anyway. Screaming that the university should have know that these kids were selling jerseys for tats to the extent of a lack of control violation is quite ludicrous! Now when it comes down to whether Tressel knew about all of this – being an educated man, I’m pretty sure he did but knew enough to avoid forcing the issue over tats or where their gold pants were. Plausible denial is a powerful weapon that goes on in every single facet of this world and unless he was there watching it happen, its really hard to prove that he was knowledgeable about it.

    All of these allegations of this article have already been known. Span it out over 20 years and you’re talking about thousands of athletes shuffling through the football program and this article references a mere 30 or so that may/may not have actually violated the rules. Not condoning it by any means but certainly not blowing it way out of proportion like others are on this board.

    As for Tressel, he has been proven to have lied at least 3 times and that is a serious violation and he deserves all of the punishment he has received. It is the right thing to do to terminate his tenure as head coach at OSU. I thank him for the great run and awesome job he did as coach, but it is now apparent that he has to go in order to get the focus back on track.

    Again, any athlete that violates the rules, whether I agree with that rule or not, deserves to be held accountable for their actions. However, I continue to take a pragmatic view of the big picture here. THOUSANDS of student athletes go through their entire careers without even a hint of violations but those are never accounted for when these type of stories break out. Seriously – 30 athletes of 20 years does not equate to Jim Tressel being completely dirty and a cheat all of his life, nor the does it point to a university that has a lack of control on their student’s NCAA compliance program. It is what it is – several star athletes, representing an amazingly small percentage of the whole, being selfish and stupid and causing great harm to the university, the program, fellow teammates, and the fans.

    To quote Forrest Gump: That’s all I have to say about that!

    All of you pitchfork and torch folks can continue to endlessly drone on about sh!t that doesn’t matter. I’ll hang out and wait for the NCAA to render their judgment and move on from there!

  48. myballsmyrules says: May 31, 2011 11:49 AM

    Thank you Gordon Gee for that heartfelt speech

  49. dkhhuey says: May 31, 2011 11:52 AM

    I couldn’t pull the bow tie look off!!!

  50. shallowfan says: May 31, 2011 12:11 PM

    So, does anyone think the heads of the school and AD knew about all of this and Tressel is taking the fall and resigning with a nice $$$ severence package? Maybe Tressel did tell them back in April 2010 and they decided to keep quiet because they stood to lose a lot more than Tressel ($$$) if the news came out?

    Something just doesn’t add up and I don’t trust the SI story all that much especially when the sources don’t have the guts to come out because OSU ties.

    Not saying Tressel didn’t mess up, but he wouldn’t be the first to take the fall for his superiors if that is the case.

  51. gatorfan1 says: May 31, 2011 12:53 PM


    When you have a player from a high profile basketball team who says “that it was easy to see that a bunch of football players were driving cars that were to expnsive for their lifestyle” or a high profile player has driven as may as 8 cars and ticjeted in 3; than I think it’s safe to say SOMEBODY in a position of power at the school should have known. Especially when said basketball player than states ” everyone in the school knew”???? Come on be serious. It should have started there.

    Also I laugh how everone from OSU is ignoring the comments from a past president of Youngstown State on the SI article and his damning view of Tressel…funny how you guys gloss over that one!!!

  52. amkush says: May 31, 2011 1:09 PM

    1. Question how one coach can be so much more successful than all the others — and those who obey the rules
    2. And how many other infractions did Tressel have
    3. When will college football become a sport where real students participate for sake of Alma mater or pay these athletes part of what these overpriced coaches get. It is their lives on the line and they are going to school to groom for the NFL. When we stop believing this is an amateurs game that is when these so called scandals will stop.

  53. dkhhuey says: May 31, 2011 1:17 PM

    @gator – No, I’m no ignoring anything so stop stereotyping based on your jaded view of OSU’s program. I am saying that a few star players that violate the rules do NOT represent, reflect, or speak for the VAST majority of athletes that go through their college career without violating the rules. You are dead set on inditing the entire university based on the actions of a micro dot of the entire program where I am looking at each incident. If you have a player that says Tressel actually set up the car deal and there is actual proof of his involvement, then I say absolutely pin that on Tressel. If their is actual PROOF that the AD and others in the administration knew about it, then by all means, they deserve to be punished. If you DO NOT have proof of any actual involvement then you cannot charge, bring to trial or judge somebody guilty. All I see is unnamed sources talking undocumented, unprovable, non collaborated, and non-verifiable accusations. Do I have to sit here and cite case after case after case where an accuser has been exposed to have lied or misconstrued the facts to attempt to validate their claim?

    I doubt this sinks in to your already made up ‘guilty’ mind but I do not gloss over ANYTHING that is being said – however, unlike you, I believe that just because an amazingly small few athletes are violating the rules doesn’t even remotely lead to a conclusion that ‘everybody’ is doing it and everybody in a leadership role knew about it. What YOU are ignoring are the countless athletes that are coming out and calling the Ray Smalls of the world’s story ‘Bullshit’.

  54. emilyscupcakeshoppe says: May 31, 2011 1:26 PM

    First, in case anyone hasn’t already guessed this, I am a current Ohio State student. So admittedly, I love OSU. But that doesn’t change the FACT that SI’s ‘sources’ are felons, drug dealers/addicts, and “unnamed.” The entire piece reeks of a lack of journalistic integrity. They quote Ray Small’s comments in The Lantern article, while conveinantly leaving out the comments from another teammate IN THE SAME ARTICLE that completely refute Small. Not to mention the countless players who have come out against Small. Ohh and wait, the convicted felon, currently sitting in jail, WAS REFUTED BY HIS OWN BOSS! Said he only worked there 3-4 day and has paperwork to prove it. Not the months the career criminal/liar claims. Not to mention that almost 3/4 of the ‘story’ was just a summary of things everyone already knew if they had taken the time to look it up. But most of you haven’t and won’t. Let’s face it here. This ‘story’ was not even close to the reason Jim Tressel resigned yesterday.

    @gatorfan1: Mark Titus may have known. But ‘everyone’ definately does not. I’m in the same year as Terrelle Pryor, and not once have I ever even seen him on campus, or off, let alone seen him drive a car. And Mark Titus may have been “a member of a prominent basketball team,” but he sat the bench his entire career. It isnt like Sully is coming out saying he saw Terrelle with 8 cars. I’m not saying that Titus is lying, but the stuff these football players do is not well known outside of their own circles. Titus was an athlete, albeit sitting on the bench, but he has way more access to Pryor than anyone else. They were probably ‘friends’. Lived in the same athletic dorm. Which is completely separate from the rest of campus. Saying ‘everyone’ knew it is a huge stretch. Like I said, I’ve never even seen the dude, and we have the same major.

    This whole thing has been highly blown out of proportion. It’s quite ridiculous actually. He lied. That sucks. And he got ‘fired.’ In no way, shape, or form is this anywhere close to a “lack of institutional control.” It isn’t like our father pimped us out to the highest bidder, or our boosters bought our mom a $200,000 house and car.

  55. igor1984 says: May 31, 2011 1:50 PM


    I’m a Bucks’ fan, too. But ‘felons, drug dealers/addicts’ describes a pretty good number of the guys Coach Tressel has recruited.

    Yes, Ray Small is a moron, who will do anything to get some press (sorry, Ray, the NFL doesn’t want undersized guys who go to ‘clubbing’ instead of learning the playbook), but when he talks about violating NCAA rules, he probably knows what he’s talking about.

    “This whole thing has been highly blown out of proportion” – wow, where there’s smoke, there’s a fire; when the flames are leaping 100 feet in the air and the building is engulfed, you really need to call 911 not just stand there and hope “it’ll go out on its own”…

  56. anonymouslyanonymouscommentor says: May 31, 2011 2:04 PM

    The sweater vest was the perfect cover up

  57. edgy says: May 31, 2011 2:09 PM

    Anyone that believes that Tressel wasn’t fired is looking at the situation through Rose Bowl colored glasses. The school gave him a face saving opportunity and he took it but make no mistake, he was sent packing.

  58. purdueman says: May 31, 2011 2:10 PM

    Tressel… just another Bible thumping “born again PHONY!”.

    Here’s what I think that the NCAA should do. The NCAA should require that every player on THE Ohio State football strip naked to be inspected for tatoo’s, then start following the trail as to where, when and how they paid for those tatoo’s.

    I bet if the NCAA does that they’ll come up with dozens and dozens of players who Tressel turned a blind eye to who were blatantly violating NCAA rules!

    As for sanctions? Given Tressel’s lies and deceit, the Ohio State should AT A MINIMUM be given sanctions equal to those handed down to USC in the Reggie Bust scandal (i.e., now bowl games for two years, forfeiture of all games starting with the first one Tressel played players who he knew were in clear violations of NCAA rules and a loss of scholarships).

  59. Deb says: May 31, 2011 3:35 PM

    @purdueman …

    Yes, some Christians are pious jerks … just like a lot of nonChristians. Most of us realize we’re as flawed as everyone else. I take it from your diatribe that Tressel is a Christian. I’m not that familiar with the man–did he give speeches claiming to be perfect? His being a Christian doesn’t make what he did any better or worse just as you not being a Christian wouldn’t make your transgressions any better or worse.

    And your suggestion that OSU players be forcibly stripped and searched for tattoos is unConstituional … not to mention scary to the max. These aren’t serial killers–they’re college athletes who traded memorabilia for tattoos. It was a no-no, but hardly a big deal in the grand scheme of sports corruption.

  60. Blogger Patrol says: May 31, 2011 3:44 PM

    Earth to “edgy and imtalking are one,” come out from under your rock. You wrote: “I mean people say he was forced, tressel, gee, and smith said that tressel resigned, do you have more info over the people in the situation?!?!”

    Hey, if they said the sky was falling, you’d duck! Denial’s not a river in Egypt, son!!! HE WAS FIRED! DUH!!!!

  61. purdueman says: May 31, 2011 3:55 PM

    Deb: My apologies if you think that I was in some way trying to paint all Bible thumping Christians with the same brush (I wasn’t).

    In the case of Tressel though, he heavily marketed his image as being an honest and forthright Christian man and made millions off of that image in the process. Now we come to find that he’s just another phony.

    As for checking student athletes for tatoo’s? It’s within the University rights to do everything possible to assure that their athletes are conforming to NCAA rules… it’s called a contract that the student signs in return for a scholarship.

    With SI reporting that as many as 50 known OSU players or former players having traded memorabilia for tatoo parlor services, I think that it’s totally reasonable for OSU to physically check their scholarship athletes for tatoos.

    If they fall back on their constitutional right to not be checked for tatoos? Simple solution; yank their scholarships!

    Why are you trying to draw a line in terms of degrees of wrong, Deb? Willingly and knowingly violating NCAA rules and then having your coach become complicit by approving such actions through his silence is every bit as wrong as players getting paid off to shave points off of a basketball game.

    This breaking scandal IMO is FAR worse that the Reggie Bush one was for USC, because it involves DOZENS of players and past players and with the coach being aware of this, it was just out and out cheating to continue to play these players who should have been suspended immediately upon the coach being made aware of their actions.

  62. dkhhuey says: May 31, 2011 4:01 PM

    @purdue – let’s penalize the thousands of law abiding non rule breaking athletes and students based on a few idiotic athletes… you must be a teapublican!

  63. dprouse says: May 31, 2011 4:58 PM

    To me, the most devastating part of the story was Tressel rigging a raffle so that the top recruits could win. That is WAY worse than looking the other way when a few of your athletes trade a sweatshirt for some ink. Rigging a raffle at a camp for high school aged kids speaks directly to Tressel’s character, or lack thereof. Your moral compass has to be seriously out of whack to even consider doing that.

  64. Blogger Patrol says: May 31, 2011 5:25 PM

    dprouse – grow up.

  65. purdueman says: May 31, 2011 5:59 PM

    “To me, the most devastating part of the story was Tressel rigging a raffle so that the top recruits could win.” – dprouse
    I couldn’t agree with you more! Here the other kids were spending money that they had to sweat to earn in the hopes of winning something in the raffle while the kids who had everything were getting the spoils. It’s like taking money out of the collection plate when it’s being passed around in church!

    The other thing that’s not being talked about enough is the “big back (party), room” behind the tat shop, where reports are that marijuana was provided… another clear NCAA rules violation.

    The best thing that will come out of this though is that Tressel’s dopey looking outdated vest will finally go the way of Mr. Rogers cardigan sweaters!

    As a Purdue grad though, knowing that NCAA sanctions are going to definitely follow I couldn’t be happier to be in the same new conference alignment with two reeling (or soon to be), perennial football powerhouses.

    When Jo Pa eventually passes on (I don’t think that the guy, God bless him, will ever actually retire), the third big football powerhouse will likely go through a big bump in the road too, kicking open a window of opportunity for Purdue and especially Nebraska to take the newly formed conference!

  66. tr975 says: May 31, 2011 6:09 PM

    ice90 says:

    So what they’re saying is Tressel had to cheat to build the most overrated football program in the country? Yeah…………. I guess that does suck.
    Well, if Tressel had to “cheat” to build the “most overrated football program in the country”, what does that say about what those powerhouse SEC and other major teams had to do in order to be so dominant throughout the years?

  67. dkhhuey says: May 31, 2011 6:11 PM

    @Purdue – it will take a lot more than that for you to win anything in the Big 10!!! Thanks for the laugh though!!!!

  68. olskool711 says: May 31, 2011 6:19 PM

    Wow, that is a cool car.

    This may cause the NCAA and BCS to actually suspend him for a quarter of next years automatic gift BCS game. He better look into the supplemental thing.

    The latest buzz has it (not sure if the source is reliable) that a little sister of the poor was found sleeping in the back seat with a 2.49 cent Big Mac carton next to him. Looks like another potential lack of institutional control charge against Boise if found true.

  69. purdueman says: May 31, 2011 6:33 PM

    dk… glad you find making an ass out of yourself to be funny!

    There’s a lot more parity in college football ever since the NCAA (thankfully), lowered the number of allowed football scholarships. Bet you were laughing just a few short years ago about Boise State or TCU becoming perennial challengers too, huh?

    Purdue is not, and never has been, a “football” school. If you knew anything about it (which you obviously don’t), it’s a very difficult place to recruit because it’s a tough academic institution and the ratio of men to women on campus is roughly 3:1 men (i.e., it sure ain’t an SEC “party school”!).

    In addition, Purdue is squeezed by OSU to the south and Michigan to the north and the state of Indiana simply doesn’t produce anywhere near the number of promising kids that the states of Ohio and Michigan do.

    I’m not talking about Purdue winning a national championship, numbnuts; I’m talking about them winning a Big 10 CONFERENCE title. With Michigan and OSU both in (or about to go in), a down cycle and Jo Pa’s days numbered at Penn St., there’s going to be a GREAT window of opportunity.

    Right now Purdue is still going through the same painful transition anytime a revered coach with a long run goes through when their coach retires. The retired coach mainly recruited from Texarkana; the new coach is focused first on Florida and then the entire rest of the county.

    You can’t beat football powerhouses head on; you have to be smarter and the job is just that much harder when the school won’t tolerate offering cupcake classes like “Bowling” and “The history of prostitution” as Michigan is known for.

  70. purdueman says: May 31, 2011 6:42 PM

    dk… you’re right… Purdue never produces top echelon pro players.

    Let me see now… what NFL QB’s has Purdue produced?

    NFL QB Bob De Moss
    NFL HOF’er and Super Bowl MVP Len Dawson
    NFL HOF’er Brian Griese
    NFL QB Mike Phipps
    NFL QB Gary Danielson
    NFL QB Mark Herrmann
    NFL QB Scott Campbell
    NFL QB Jim Everett
    NFL QB Kyle Orton
    NFL QB and Super Bowl MVP Drew Brees
    NFL Backup QB Curtis Painter

    In fact, numbnuts, Purdue QB’s have thrown 1,131 NFL QB’s, more than ANY other NCAA school.

    You’re right though… Purdue never has a chance! Next time do your homework, sonny!

  71. tomosbornesretirementcostjoepaatitle says: May 31, 2011 6:53 PM

    I love me some QB chucking QB’s!

  72. Deb says: May 31, 2011 11:38 PM

    @purdueman …

    My point is that people may express their faith and still screw up. I don’t see why others scream “Oh, that Christian is a phony!” because everyone screws up, Christian or not. It’s hypocritical to only get bent out of shape when a “Christian” does it.

    As for the strip searches … signing compliance letters has nothing to do with being forced to strip and display their tattoos. It’s not against NCAA or OSU rules to have a tattoo. And if they can’t provide a receipt proving they paid full price for the tattoo, or prove where they got the money to pay for the tattoo, then what? You can’t decide players are guilty simply because they have tattoos.

    The Constitution protects against unlawful search and seizure. I believe OSU could strip-search its athletes, but the athletes would sue and likely win through the appellate process. That would wind up costing the school a great deal of money and horrendous publicity. I’d like to hope the student body of a university with Ohio State’s academic reputation would be engaged in vigorous protest if their school started employing Nazi interrogation tactics on student athletes.

    To say that selling your own championship ring is equal to taking a bribe to shave points off a game is so absurd it’s not worth debating. I’m not “trying” to delineate between degrees of wrongdoing, I stating straight out that there are degrees of wrongdoing in NCAA infractions just as there are in the criminal justice system. We don’t treat shoplifting with the same seriousness as armed robbery.

    I don’t even believe it should be an infraction for players to sell their own memorabilia or autographs. If the NCAA doesn’t want players selling memorabilia, they should simply require schools to hold items such as championship rings until the player graduates or leaves school. Problem solved.

    Tressel’s infraction was quite serious, and he’s received the most serious possible punishment: He’s been fired. The NCAA should determine whether any other school officials covered up the infractions and fire them, too, and vacate any necessary wins. End of story.

    So far, none of this compares with throwing games or bribing players. I don’t care how many guys sold a ring to get a tattoo. If it turns out kids were getting free cars, then the situation becomes more serious.

  73. edgy says: Jun 1, 2011 12:38 AM

    Purdue – that’s BOB Griese. Brian is the Wolverine and he’ll get into the HOF the old fashioned way — by paying the price of admission. :)

  74. dkhhuey says: Jun 1, 2011 1:04 AM

    @purdue – put down the crack pipe son. I typed three sentences to you regarding remarks YOU made and you go off the deep end associating WAY MORE meaning into those sentences then was even remotely implied. Sounds like you got a little low self esteem thing going on there to come out with the idiotic rants you posted over the mere few words I tossed your way. I could care less about Purdue and its sports program, be it football, basketball, tic-tac-toe or the chess team. Don’t give a shit enough to even remotely care who played for your team or who made it to the NFL. But you keep up the fight and big drum beatin for the boilermakers!!!

  75. polegojim says: Jun 1, 2011 10:16 AM

    @tryagainplease… close but no cigar, tryagainplease

  76. purdueman says: Jun 1, 2011 12:05 PM

    dk… I wouldn’t recognize a “crack pipe” if I saw one, but it sounds like you must have a nice collection going, huh?

    Of course you could care less about Purdue; ignorance is after all bliss! I bet you don’t even know where the University is located without having to google it first.

    Sounds from your post that you’re the one who has low self esteem because you knock me of being proud of my alma mater, yet you don’t reference having one yourself too.

  77. gatorfan1 says: Jun 1, 2011 12:08 PM


    I think it’s great that you defend your school. You should!! However, I take issues with several of your views & statements.

    First off, why does it matter that Mark Titus sits on the bench? You use sitting on the bench as some sort of marker to try and diminish his statements and his character, as if being a benchwarmer automatically disqualifies him from telling the truth. You’ve done a nice job of trying to undermine his credibility by using something that has nothing to do with this situation. You must be in law school, and I don’t say that as a compliment.

    Secondly, why are statements from Titus and a former president of a college NOT given more weight by OSU fans & students. These statements seem to be coming from two people who can’t be impeached. I notice not one OSU blogger has been willing to take on the views of a college president, not one. And I think we all know the reason, his views don’t fit into the nice neat little package of obfuscation that is currently going on by the fans of OSU.

    It’s also very interesting that no OSU fan will deal with the fact Titus is confirming everything that the supposed “scumbag” Small said. Also, you give an awful lot of stock to players refuting Small. Anyone put in this position would do the same thing, protect their school! Nobody wants to see their school hammere.

    Small also is now trying to recant his story (eventhough it was taped & played) however, the one person who hasn’t recanted his statement is Titus’s support of his statements. Why? Could it be that this is a kid who realizes he’s not going to play in the NBA and just wants to get his degree and get out, and was fed up with what he saw as preferential treatment of athletes and corruption in the football team. When all is said and done, it’s statements from people like Titus and the president who should be sending shivers done the back of OSU fans. For all the statements about ” sources’ are felons, drug dealers/addicts, and “unnamed”, that OSU fans seems to be fixated on, at least two seemingly impeachable soures are corroborating the so called degenerates words.

    By the way, I also hear Small is in graduate school at OSU. So give the kid some credit, he took school seriously enough to get a degree.

    Using your same logic as denigrating Titus because he’s a benchwarmer, I’ll use the same convoluted logic and say because Small is in graduate school, he’s telling the truth.

    And lastely, contrary to what YOU say it is obvious that a large number of people at OSU knew about Pryor and his eight cars. Over the years it has been reported that he has received 3 different tickets in three different cars. So, no matter how you protest to the contrary, a large segment of the OSU student did know about Pryor and all he cars.

  78. gatorfan1 says: Jun 1, 2011 1:34 PM


    I find your statements absolutely ludicrous and laughable. You’re trying to say that much of the charges are not corroborated. Not corroborated by who, you???

    For years we’ve been hearing about the “integrity” of OSU. Whenever SEC fans gloated over the success against OSU on the gridiron, like clockwork, we always heard how the OSU fanbase WOULD never stand for the cheating or unethical behavior by their coach, like SEC fans supposedly do for theirs.

    BUT, here you all are, defending the same practices you always condemn the SEC for!!

    But here is where I think you are being very misguided and not understanding about what is about to happen.

    I think we can all agree that there is a strained relationship between the academic world and college athletic world.

    The “academic” world is just as competitive as the athletic world, if not more so. First to become a dept head working your way up to President of a prestigious research university such as OSU.

    How pissed do you think Gee is right now??? He gets up and makes his embarrassing statement about hoping he doesn’t get fired by Tressel. A statement HE obviously would love to take back & a statement made based on his AD & compliance department both relaying to him that they were doing their jobs and the TAT5 incident was isolated.

    How much do you think his image has suffered in his own “academic” circles with this statement?? My guess is President Gee is going to tear the OSU sports department to shreads. He has to, his own reputation is at stake and is on the line. AND you can be assured because of his academic standing amonst his peers for his own integrity, that he won’t sweep anything under the rug and will publicly aknowledge all transgressions. Both minor and major!!

    This will not be pretty because people that sit on the boards that elect the president will not be happy when he goes full bore to “restore” the integrity of the institution, which he should, and one in which OSU fans should endorse. He may end up resigning, because there are always board members, who are, unfortunately, more concerned about a major college football teams record, than their own school’s academic reputation.

    You can rest assured that this man is embarrassed and has been holding all sorts of meetings over the last several days laying the groundwork for rectifying this mess. No doubt your AD is done as well as the head of the compliance department, as well as others.

    Furthermore, as an alumni of Florida and someone who was at gainesville during the Pell years, I resent all the crap spewed from Big Ten fans that we accept cheating. At Florida we don’t!! Most fans I know love the fact that Jeremy Foley has such high standards and the school is constantly lauded on how the Athletic Department monitors “student athletes” at Florida. When we gather in Gainesville for the games, we love “knowing” we do the things the right way and beat teams that we know don’t.

    And let me tell you, I was embarrassed reading the allegations that went on when Pell was head coach, and have NEVER supported what he didand was glad he was fired! Sneaking students into other teams practices and filming them during practice and so forth, it goes on and on and is quite embarrassing.

    As a fan of OSU you should want whatever is going on in the program to be cleaned up, no matter how painful it is now.

    If however, you want the punishment or the allegations to disappear, or only care about winning Big Ten Championships, than you better hope Gee is fired or resigns because he is going to put your athletic department in a very tough competitive situation over the next 3-5 years while he cleans up this mess and institutes new compliance measures for the athletic department. Good luck!

    My hope is you love your school more than Tressel and the football team. He truly has sullied the school’s reputation and that should make you, the fanbase & all OSU Alumni mad.

  79. dkhhuey says: Jun 1, 2011 4:24 PM


    What the F@#$ are you talking about? Are you that grossly delusional that you can no longer read and comprehend anything? At no point on this board have I EVER said anything about what is going on at an SEC school. Not one point EVER on this board have I put OSU’s integrity above any school. At no point EVER have I condoned students, coaches, or administration violation of the rules. All you have to do is read every single post above that I have written and you’ll see that I am NOT saying anything but punish the kids that have violated the rules, punish Tressel for his lying, and move on!!! GOD what a F@#$ing idiot you are! You are too stupid to even waste further time explaining myself because I already have. You are just too f#@$ing retarded to understand it.

  80. gatorfan1 says: Jun 1, 2011 5:53 PM


    So after that vitriolic attack, put YOU under the column of protecting the football team over the school’s reputation, thanks got it.

  81. dkhhuey says: Jun 2, 2011 11:16 AM

    @gator – no, put me under the column of no longer responding to those pathetically lacking in reading comprehension and reality based thinking skills. Its pointless to continue to address any of your replies since, regardless of what somebody posts, you comprehend it as whatever is convenient to support your warped sense of reality and points of view. I’ve got better things to do then trying to debate issues with an addle mined moron like yourself.

  82. Blogger Patrol says: Jun 2, 2011 12:11 PM


  83. gatorfan1 says: Jun 2, 2011 12:46 PM


    Dude chill out! I have a lot of sympathy for you. It must be hard living your life vicariously through a bunch of 21 year olds and a man who you & and a whole fanbase put on a “pedestal” and then have all that come crumbling down in such an embarrassing & hypercritical way.

    For years you & the OSU minions convinced yourself, that regardless of what happened on the football field, you were morally & ethically “superior” to your opposition, because YOUR school & coach did it the “right way.”

    How embrrassing & devastating it must be to find out that, not only does your school not do things the “right way”, but actually all along was possibly more morally & ethically bankrupt than all the other programs that you have arrogantly assumed was beneath you. That’s got to be a killer!!

    And it only gets worse from here…ask the USC fans. Better grow tougher skin & grow some nuts because it’s a bumpy ride down from that “pedestal” you put you & your school on!!!

    Welcome to being a “commoner” like the rest of us! You’ll get used to it, eventually. The first step is throwing away all your copies of your “hero worship” books on your shelf written by Tressel.

  84. edgy and imtalking are one in the same says: Jun 3, 2011 2:50 AM

    where is the article which explains why the SI article targeted a young man named storm kline and said he received tatoos and sold memorbilia, but he is now suing SI because he has ALL items received from osu and NO tatoos?

  85. tennfan1 says: Jun 4, 2011 8:02 AM

    I have heard several quotes from Pryor’s lawyer. Since most lawyers charge $200-$400/hr and since it would be an impermissable benefit for the lawyer to work probono since he would not for a non-athlete, has anyone looked into who is paying for this legal “defense”?

  86. Blogger Patrol says: Jun 4, 2011 8:11 AM

    Gee tenn, coming from your team’s background, you should already know the A to your Q!

  87. purdueman says: Jun 4, 2011 11:44 AM

    Prior has the IQ of a turnip (with apologies to the turnip), and all the ethics of an aluminum siding salesman.

    I hope that the NCAA digs DEEP, because there’s no way this tool was carrying enough credit hours to remain eligible without the skids being totally greased for him.

    If it turns out that OSU was also giving him a free ride academically through the use of advanced copies of tests and tutors drilling the answers into his head and cupcake classes like Bowling 101, OSU deserves the death penalty (as SMU got several years ago).

  88. Blogger Patrol says: Jun 4, 2011 1:50 PM

    Hey, purdueman, people who live in glass houses … it’s PRYOR! DUH!!!

  89. purdueman says: Jun 4, 2011 4:00 PM

    sorry about that, but the dictionary doesn’t include the gazillion ways that people choose to spell their names, and I’m certainly no OSU fan so while I know who the player in question is, how he spells his name simply isn’t important to me.

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