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Tressel on Michigan: ‘Nov. 26th we’re going to kick their ass!’

Jim Tressel, Rich Rodriguez

Shortly after Jim Tressel was hired in 2001, the newly-minted Ohio State head coach addressed the crowd at halftime of a men’s basketball game and lit a fire underneath those in attendance — and those who subsequently heard it via a video clip — when it came to The Rivalry.

“I can assure you that you will be proud of your young people in the classroom, in the community, and most especially in 310 days in Ann Arbor, Michigan, on the football field.”

10 years, a 9-1 record against That School Up North, seven Big Ten titles, a national title and a disgraced exit later, Tressel is still lighting fires when it comes to The Rivalry.

A group reportedly numbering in the neighborhood of 200 people marched in support of the dethroned coach earlier Saturday, descending on The Vest’s plush suburban Columbus home to show they have their former coach’s back.  And, in typical Senatorial style, Tressel did not disappoint.

Especially when it came to The Rivalry that was near and dear to his heart.

“Don’t forget: Nov. 26th we’re going to kick their ass!” Tressel was quoted as saying from the front doorstep of his home.

Needless to say, those words brought a raucous cheer from those who had made the trek.  As did his words regarding his feelings toward the university that reportedly nudged him toward resignation.

“We’re going to be Buckeyes for life,” Tressel said, his arm around his wife. “What’s that old saying? Buckeye born and bred, a Buckeye ’til I’m dead.”

All that does, though, is make the inexplicable even more so, that he would torch everything he’d built at the university he loved and adored by lying and covering up what were, in the grand scheme of things, relatively minor NCAA violations.  The decision-making process that began in April of 2010 is, and will continue to be, utterly inexplicable.  And sad.  Really, really sad.

UPDATED 9:26 p.m. ET: As has been noted to me via email and Twitter, the actual date of this year’s Ohio State-Michigan game is Nov. 26.  Cut Tressel some slack, though; he’s got a lot on his mind these days and remembering the exact date of the next The Game likely isn’t one of ’em.

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64 Responses to “Tressel on Michigan: ‘Nov. 26th we’re going to kick their ass!’”
  1. jaggedmark says: Jun 4, 2011 9:17 PM

    “JaggedMark on Tressel” ‘Nov. 1st, the Committee on Infractions is going to kick your ass!”

  2. swcoach says: Jun 4, 2011 9:59 PM

    Again, shady reporting just like the SI story. Tressel DID say the 26th, not the 27th.

    How did I know John was going to somehow make Tressel look bad in this story when really it was HIS screw up. Thanks John for showing us your credibility once again.

  3. overratedgators says: Jun 4, 2011 10:00 PM

    This entire Tressel situation continues to shock, and clearly he is not the man most of us assumed he was: who among us thought we would ever see the day that Jim Tressel uses the word “ass” in public?

  4. 10of14 says: Jun 4, 2011 10:06 PM

    Swcoach…you lie just like your “old” coach…I was there and he said 27th…besides, the last thing an OSU fan should worry about now is UM…MSU is better as are 2 other Big Ten teams you will face before UM.

  5. swcoach says: Jun 4, 2011 10:08 PM

    You were there? From what I hear from people who were there they quoted him as “The 26th”. And if you aren’t a Buckeye fan, why would you even be there? Kinda odd to me.

  6. swcoach says: Jun 4, 2011 10:15 PM


    You WERE not there… if you were you would’ve known he in fact Tressel said the 26th. Quit making stuff up just because you don’t like OSU.

  7. John Taylor says: Jun 4, 2011 10:28 PM

    @swcoach: If I were you, I guess I’d be proud of the fact that I’m part of that 10-percent, very vocal minority of Buckeye Nation.

    As I’m not you, and as I’m a 40+-year member of Buckeye Nation, I’m embarrassed that you and your ilk brings shame to and pretends to speak for what is a great fan base, and an even greater institution.

    You perfectly encapsulate everything that is wrong with a great and storied football program. Enjoy the national ridicule you and your kind have wrought.

    A joke. An absolute joke. And a cherry embarrassment on top of that joke sundae.

  8. swcoach says: Jun 4, 2011 11:03 PM

    John, you are part of Buckeye nation? Really? True Buckeye’s don’t throw OSU under the bus every chance they get.

    I’m sorry I called you out on doing your job wrong and it hurt your ego. Being a journalist you have a responsibility of researching and telling the readers the truth, not making something up to make it juicier so people will click on your story.

    Funny how in your response you attack me as being a Buckeye fan and are embarrassed for me and never acknowledged the fact you messed up. I believe in this aspect, you should be embarrassed of yourself and not the one who helped correct you. I think your joke sundae, along with your cherry, is all over your face right now. Thanks John, for showing your true character and professionalism.

  9. overratedgators says: Jun 4, 2011 11:05 PM

    ***Stands Up. Begins Slow Clap for JT.***

    Thank you, sir. Thank you.

  10. overratedgators says: Jun 4, 2011 11:15 PM

    JT’s right. Homers, you’re not helping.

    Tressel lied. He got caught. He got fired. Kids got impermissible benefits. Tattoos. Cars. Cash. Drugs.

    If Tressel had come clean about what he knew months ago, when the first e-mail arrived, five kids would have gotten two game suspensions, and no one would have ever looked deeper. He didn’t. He kept lying. So the NCAA and the media kept poking around. He got caught. And now your entire program is in deep, deep NCAA doo-doo.

    No amount of homerism is going to change that. It just makes you look clueless and arrogant to try and ignore it, and shoot the messenger every time a new story gets written.

    Do yourselves a favor, Buckeye Nation. Shut up a while. Lay low. Let this blow over. You have an indefensible situation. Trying to defend it just makes you look either clueless to the violations, or willing to ignore them. And neither result makes you look good. Just shut up, let this thing play out, and hope that in 2012, the only controversy left is the amount of Urban Meyer’s new head coaching paycheck.

    One day, people will move on to the next scandal, and largely forget about this one. The university already has several big bruises. Don’t add “clueless arrogant homer fan base” to that list of injuries.

  11. lbijake says: Jun 4, 2011 11:18 PM

    JT, Well stated sir. In my opinion, a fan can be objective, a zealot is not. A fan usually puts forth a rational argument, taking in all aspects of the issue. The zealot states “Blah, blah, blah, I am right and you are wrong”.

  12. John Taylor says: Jun 4, 2011 11:20 PM

    I’m not embarrassed “for” you, I’m embarrassed “of” you. Little bit of a difference, one that your myopia will never allow you to recognize.

    And spare me your “True Buckeye” BS/whining/spin.

    Said it before and will say it again: your ilk is EXACTLY what’s wrong with this fan base. The fact that, at this point in time with everything going on with the tOSU football program, you focus on Nov. 26/27 screams everything anyone needs to know about your kind. Create a diversion all you want, but it won’t change the fact that The Vest lied and covered up violations.

    As a proud tOSU football fan, I have zero issue stating that you and your kind are an utter and complete embarrassment.

  13. jliskiew says: Jun 4, 2011 11:24 PM

    Careful John, they’ll try to excommunicate you to Tennessee…

  14. swcoach says: Jun 4, 2011 11:26 PM

    Why does a gator fan always feel the need to voice their opinion on OSU matters when they should be looking at themselves for having almost a third of their team arrested for breaking the law?

    Being a Buckeye fan and a “Homer” as you put it or what JT did to resign has nothing to do with asking people, especially reporters, to do their jobs correctly and research something before they post it online for millions of people to read. I don’t think that is too much to ask, is it?

  15. swcoach says: Jun 4, 2011 11:34 PM

    John again, the story isn’t about me. Its about you getting it wrong. Man up, and seriously, quit calling yourself a Buckeye. I’ve read every story you’ve written on them and you always spin it negatively. To be honest, until you said you’ve been a Buckeye fan today… I’ve always pegged you for a Michigan alum for your view on OSU. I’m not joking either.

    I’m not the one creating a diversion, you still haven’t corrected the story and you still argue like an elementary kid at recess, just with some larger words. If you are that thin skinned and don’t like to be corrected, then make sure you do your job right. Simple as that.

    And seriously, you and your unprofessional personal attacks are truly an embarrassment for this site. Way to call out the people who by coming to this site, keep you employed.

  16. lethimplaycoach says: Jun 4, 2011 11:34 PM

    I will be a Tressel fan for life. He did a lot of good for a lot of people. Sad days, these past few weeks. But he had to go as coach.

    Perhaps I drink the kool-aid, but I don’t think Tressel lied. I think he didn’t tell the truth. I don’t know if we’ll ever know the real truth about what happened. Hopefully Gee, Smith, and compliance all follow him out the door.

    Perhaps CFT can do a story on the 7 people quoted in George Dohrmann’s article, ranging from a former college president to a convicted felon, who all say that the story isn’t true or contains lies about their conversations with the writer.

    The pressure is clearly getting to Dohrmann, who went low blow on Paul Finebaum’s show Friday when he said Tressel was disrespectful of the military by resigning on Memorial Day. Neither Tressel nor Dohrmann (despite what he thinks) controlled the timing of the resignation. Tressel is anything but disrespectful of the military. He went to Iraq to visit the military, did numerous things at OSU for the military, and helped the 1942 national championship team get the rings they never got, after they all had to leave school and go to war: (click video link)

  17. swcoach says: Jun 4, 2011 11:37 PM

    How is me asking John to do his job correctly make me a zealot?

  18. John Taylor says: Jun 4, 2011 11:38 PM

    “Careful John, they’ll try to excommunicate you to Tennessee…”

    Well played sir.

    But, I lived in Chattanooga for a year or so many, many years ago, and would have no qualms in moving back to that state. I was eight years old at the time, and, from what I remember, it was a very interesting city. As were the trips to Nashville and Knoxville when we lived in the state.

    Have been back there a coupla times since, but really need to get back there and show my five-year-old one of the great states in the union.

  19. swcoach says: Jun 4, 2011 11:42 PM

    If you can’t get a date right in a story, and blame it on Tressel, not yourself, how am I suppose to believe anything you write on here? Or are things made up just to make things sound better?

    Ok, yes I’m a Buckeye fan, but I’m also a fan, and if the main writer for them show’s this kinda credibility and makes up things in his stories, how do I know he doesn’t do that in others? Its just one professional asking another professional to do his job right.

  20. polegojim says: Jun 4, 2011 11:51 PM

    A ‘Thank you for your Support’…the end… would have been most appropriate.

    @JT – my disagreement is that the lying… although a very poor decision… doesn’t alter the ‘overall’ man who is and always has been Jim Tressel. I don’t defend what he did, I defend the man himself, and his accomplishments are not even slightly altered by the situation.

    @overratedgators… I assume your ass is being sarcastic.

    @swcoach – the point is ‘show appropriate regret’ for damage done, and ‘healthy dose of humility’.

  21. polegojim says: Jun 4, 2011 11:57 PM

    PS – As far as his statement as a stand alone, I wouldn’t expect anything less.

    I regret that Tressel won’t be on the sidelines coaching the game. The only semblence of embarrassment or discomfort I wanted him or OSU to feel is an ‘L’ afterward, a VERY LONG bus ride home, and an entire year to contemplate that Michigan football is back. Nothing More.

  22. John Taylor says: Jun 5, 2011 12:06 AM

    Again, the fact that you want focus on Nov. 26/27 says everything about you as a person and fan.

    Address the actual situation? Of course not. Whine and/or cry about a date discrepancy? Of course!

    You are the worst of the worst when it comes to Buckeye Nation. Enjoy it. Revel in it.

    And, officially, I’m done with you and your ilk. I can deal with blind fandom, but this type of myopia is beyond the pale and should not be suffered by anyone. And will be dealt with accordingly.

  23. huskerguy says: Jun 5, 2011 12:47 AM

    Man, I’m not a Buckeye fan but I am embarrassed for the ones I know by the spew flying from this guy JT.

    We have some of those in Husker land too… Their dads usually take ’em out to the woodshed just like when they were kids. No one else really ever gets involved, just one call to pops about embarrassing the whole state usually does it. :)

  24. edgy and imtalking are one in the same says: Jun 5, 2011 12:54 AM

    I’m sorta confused why you don’t just change it to the 26th jt?

    foxsports and espn both have the quote right, why don’t you? Is it just to prove that you are the writer of this site and that you won’t correct it because someone you dislike asked you to?

    that does lower your credibility if your more out to prove someone wrong rather than get the story right……..

  25. inconsonance says: Jun 5, 2011 1:03 AM

    “Its just one professional asking another professional to do his job right.”

    Being a professional dickhead doesn’t make you special. You’re still just a dickhead.

  26. chrisrome731 says: Jun 5, 2011 1:12 AM

    Hey, maybe Tressel has some inside info on the NFL lockout and they will move that game to Sunday the 27th……….or maybe not…..

  27. umich808 says: Jun 5, 2011 1:30 AM

    Leave Michigan out of this conversation. We are sad that our biggest rival is in a world of hurt. We wish no ill will on the school from the state with no lakes. Their hatred towards us is what makes the rivalry fun. We have been nothing but supportive during this difficult period of time. We are the class act of the two schools.

  28. lethimplaycoach says: Jun 5, 2011 1:33 AM

    Ohio State was supportive of Michigan during its NCAA investigations of Rich Rodriguez, oh ye of a short memory.

    Ohio State may be having issues, but they will still beat Michigan this year.

  29. myballsmyrules says: Jun 5, 2011 3:50 AM


    Why can’ you accept the fact that you are a douche?

    I mean, come on idiot, the moderator has clowned you, why try to continue to fight?
    You lost , accept it. YOU ARE A CLOWN

  30. myballsmyrules says: Jun 5, 2011 3:58 AM

    I am going to make up a new ID::


  31. blitz4848 says: Jun 5, 2011 8:04 AM

    swcoach says:
    Jun 4, 2011 11:26 PM

    Why does a gator fan always feel the need to voice their opinion on OSU matters when they should be looking at themselves for having almost a third of their team arrested for breaking the law?

    I see you are still the same pompous ass you have been in the past.

    Gator fans have probably piled on tOSU fans less than most others because we took our pummeling last season with all the arrests. For the record some tOSU’s biggest fans took tons of shots at us—most of it in good fun but they drilled us pretty good.

    Not sure you ever manned up to who you are a fan of but aren’t surprised because that way you
    can be the snake that you are!!!!

    As for the tOSU fans—JT nailed it. The true fans are taking their lumps like USC fans did, Kiffin fans have(are there any of those?) and Gator fans did last year. The only reason fans keep piling on these stories is because idiots like you and “I am a clown but I wish I was Edgy but I am a Buckeye she/he”” keep trying to make feeble excuses for Tressel, Gee, Smith and Pryor.

    If you clowns would “ignore” the remarks which are only used as “bait” to draw you clowns into making even bigggggger fools of yourselves!

  32. jw731 says: Jun 5, 2011 8:12 AM

    Will the Big Ten advertise it as the Probation Bowl?

  33. floridacock says: Jun 5, 2011 9:01 AM

    outside of both schools fans, who really cares? It’s just another game.

  34. wakiash says: Jun 5, 2011 9:36 AM

    Just another Barry Switzer wannabe. What scum these coaches turn out to be. No real honor or morals.

  35. WingT says: Jun 5, 2011 10:31 AM

    Reading this thread reminds me of an old OSU joke;

    What do you get if you see an Ohio State fan buried up to his neck in sand?

    More sand.

  36. judgeblue11 says: Jun 5, 2011 10:52 AM

    What a complete bunch of losers. Recognize the guy you worshipped was a win at all cost cheater. Coach Hayes is rolling over in his grave.

  37. BrownsTown says: Jun 5, 2011 11:06 AM


    You’re kidding with the “Gator restraint” comment, right? Have you heard of ‘gatorprof.’ Or anybody else that incorporates Gator into their screen name for that matter.

    If Gator Nation has been in a quiet period, I can’t to see when the moratorium is lifted.

  38. blitz4848 says: Jun 5, 2011 12:02 PM


    Are you saying he’s worse than
    “BuckeyeBoy He/She wannabe?”

    If I remember correctly GatorProf took ownership of Gator problems unlike the “few” diehard OSU fans that are in “total denial.”

    I think Muschamp has shown that the past conduct is no longer acceptable and like you most in Gator Nation applaud that stand.

  39. gatorfan1 says: Jun 5, 2011 12:07 PM

    You OSU fans need to stop whining about Gator fans on this board.

    OSU fans are the most intolerable fans on this board, and the exchanges between OSU fans and the moderator of this site proves it. I don’t remember ever seeing fans of any school on this site doing something like what I’ve witnessed on this particular post!! Embarrassing.

    You guys HAVE slammed anything Gator on this site the last 3 yrs concerning some issues in Gainesville. Which is ironic really, a bunch of kids smoking Marijuana mainly, was according to you guys enough to have Meyer fired, and of course “too much of a scumbag to ever be a coach at OSU”.

    Of course, now it looks like what happened in Gainesville is child’s play compared to Columbus.

    Just one question for you OSU fans? If Meyer becomes your coach does that mean you were ALL wrong the last 3 years slamming Meyer. I can’t wait to see the justifications on this board if Meyer becomes the coach. The backtracking is going to be EPIC. And of course if he wins a NC he will be a god, nevermind that he’s a “scumbag” while at Florida.

    Finally, how embarrassing to continue putting this guy on a pedestal with the gathering at his house. He is supposed to be a role model for young men, and he is being revered for his lying.

    I suppose when they were done at his house, they marched over to Bernie Madoff’s cell to let him know what a swell guy he is too!!!

    Quite frankly, that’s what wrong with this country, no more accountibility in our leaders and supposed role models!!!

  40. edgy and imtalking are one in the same says: Jun 5, 2011 12:19 PM

    edgy has redeemed himself somewhat on another post… blitz be ready you cousin lovin swamp boy

    and gatorfan, will you b*tch and complain now and later when urban(sadly) becomes the head coach at OSU? Or will you swing it that you are happy that he left?

  41. marjax says: Jun 5, 2011 12:33 PM

    Taylor, in all seriousness, your reporting on the school has been pretty skewed and overly harsh. You say you’re part of the nation, but you don’t hesitate for a second to let your opinions shine through in your articles, rather than just quoting other sources and linking to online journal articles. For all his douchebaggery, swcoach had a point.

    Don’t get me wrong, you were entirely right that he was belaboring the issue of the date WAY too much. He made a big deal out of nothing, and he deserves all the ridicule yourself and the other commenting users are slinging his way.

    I guess I just don’t see the merit in your snide remarks on OSU’s troubles, that you interject into EVERY story. Maybe it is a generational thing, but I’m not one to throw the whole program under the bus just because someone’s indiscretions were made public. It’s almost as if you think this administration is full of scoundrels who are acting well beyond normal behavior, when I’m damn sure this type of behavior on the downlow happens at every major university with a football program worth their salt. The only difference is, they haven’t been caught.

    I’m on your side JT. I’ve been a fan of yours since your OBR days, and was happy to see you get the keys to CFT when it got successful. But, I think beneath all the bullshit that swcoach spewed out, he’s got a bit of a point.

  42. overratedgators says: Jun 5, 2011 12:34 PM

    The funny part is that all the “Gator fan” comments appear to tie back to my posting above from June 4 @ 11:15 pm.

    The fact that I was accused of being a “Gator fan” may be one of the most unintentionally funny comments I’ve ever read on CFT.

    And polegojim, no, I wasn’t being sarcastic. I think Tressel has had some great accomplishments, but none of them overcompensate for the current transgressions. Anyone who says otherwise is basically saying that success on the field and charity work somehow trumps blatant unethical behavior, from the guy who is supposed to be the moral compass of the team.

    I have been absolutely flabbergasted by the willingness of some Buckeyes to run to Tressel’s defense – because in my view, he became indefensible as soon as it came out that those “confidential” e-mails, which made him “fear for his players’ safety” were past along to Pryor’s mentor in Pennsylvania. At that point, I was convinced – he lied in a misguided attempt to keep a strong team. And that, from the guy who is supposed to teach these kids right vs. wrong is unacceptable.

    I have always bagged on the Gators for their arrogant, way too cocky fan base. This Tressel controversy has now put a lot of Buckeye fans are now showing themselves as cut from that same cloth.

  43. polegojim says: Jun 5, 2011 1:42 PM

    @overratedgators – As you know, I’m definitely NOT an OSU fan… but I believe his ‘sins’ are far from unforgiveable and not worthy of the ‘death’ he received. Weakness is not wickedness worthy of tar and feathering.

    General Point:
    Are you all telling me that you’ve NEVER misrepresented facts in a serious situation to protect yourself, your family, your friends?

    Any who say ‘NO’, I don’t believe you.
    Give me a break.

  44. tomosbornesretirementcostjoepaatitle says: Jun 5, 2011 1:51 PM

    @ swcoach

    I’ve corrected JT a few times regarding mistakes in his post. Not once has he come at me because of it. He has always “manned” up and corrected them to little fanfare.

    You truly just don’t get it. You say he has put a negative spin on every story he has written during this time. Of course he has, he is an admitted member of Buckeye nation, one of the sane ones at that. He is bummed about this situation, do you think he is going to out and out blindly support the people who let his beloved institution bear the shame that it currently faces?

  45. lbijake says: Jun 5, 2011 1:52 PM

    having the gator fans and OSU fans go at it makes a boring day okay. It reminds me of the nerds in Junior high when they got in a fight with each other. eyes closed, a swing and a miss, another swing and a miss etc.

  46. blitz4848 says: Jun 5, 2011 2:02 PM

    Obviously “overratedgator” is a

    GATOR wannabe….

  47. edgy and imtalking are one in the same says: Jun 5, 2011 2:40 PM


    then why doesn’t John just change it, isn’t it skewed journalism if he doesn’t?

  48. overratedgators says: Jun 5, 2011 2:50 PM

    Polegojim asks:

    Are you all telling me that you’ve NEVER misrepresented facts in a serious situation to protect yourself, your family, your friends?

    My answer: Of course. The difference is that no one is paying me nearly $4 million per year to ensure that the rules DON’T get broken.

    Think about it in these terms: smoking pot is illegal. Most of us have done it anyway. But wouldn’t you judge a lot more harshly if the stoner involved was also the highly paid head of “Partnership for a Drug-Free America”?

    (… oh and Blitz: thanks, but no thanks. I wouldn’t go around calling them overrated if I wanted to be one …)

  49. tomosbornesretirementcostjoepaatitle says: Jun 5, 2011 2:56 PM

    Well, I’m not JT so you would have to ask him.

    I was just trying to illuminate the point that there are a few tOSU supporters who, as described by others above, are acting very much in a zealot like manner, and if you want something, in this case a correction, that if you attack the person you want that something from you are unlikely to get it.

    Think Palestinians and Israelis.

  50. BrownsTown says: Jun 5, 2011 3:57 PM


    See 12:07 PM.

    I rest my case.

  51. gatorfan1 says: Jun 5, 2011 7:42 PM


    Aain its hard to take you seriously with the following:”I have always bagged on the Gators for their arrogant, way too cocky fan base.”

    In the past I’ve asked you who you were a fan of, and your response was “I’ve mentioned it before” but won’t again and you missed tough on you. Someone then posted that they thought you mentioned that you were a Cane fan which is what confused me. However it now seems NO ONE on this board has has EVER seen you post who you’re a fan of. Why the lying? And you admonish Tressel for lying, albeit certainly not in the same context.

    You of course take the position that you are neutral, which of course is propesterous with your moniker. But tell me, since you have painted all Florida fans as so arrogant, tell us who you school is, even if your neutral, I’d be curious to know what fan base that you are part of that isn’t just like the rest of us in support of our school.

    I’m sure you’ll figure some way around answering the question!!! You know, no matter what you think, no one takes anything you say seriously because of your denial to put down WHO you are a fan of.

  52. southernpatriots says: Jun 5, 2011 8:36 PM

    JT: Hope you and yours are doing well. We are “weathering” the back flooding and overflow waters of the Mighty Mississippi. It really gives us pause to realize the huge power of this river. Most friends were and are flooded out. We have levees around our houses and community so we were able to not have water in our home, but family members who lived nearby did.

    We can’t wait until the fall season starts. LSU should have a very good, maybe even great team this year. We truly know that the first game v. Oregon will tell us something about the new OC, which QB can function well with the offense to move the ball, if the defense is up to the past years’ standards, and if Les Miles is continuing his inventive and oftentimes unpredictable play calling.

    We will be traveling again to many SEC games and are very apprehensive about playing Bama at Tuscaloosa. The rest of the schedule is not a cake walk either since we play in the SEC West.

  53. gatorfan1 says: Jun 5, 2011 9:24 PM

    @edgy and imtalking are one in the same says:

    It won’t bother me one bit if Meyer takes the OSU job. I think he is one of the best, if not the best college football coach in the country! And he has a 10 year track record to prove it. I also believe he has the ability to surpass what Tressel has done at OSU.

    And quite frankly, as an alumni and supporter of my school, the U of F, I support my school first; unlike you who puts an individual over the school.

    My way of thinking is that Muschamp has the ability to be just as good as Meyer, and will also win NC’s. I also think he will stay there 10-15 years, or possibly longer, which will be even better!!!

  54. buckeye044 says: Jun 5, 2011 9:38 PM

    This all just really sucks.

    I love JT as a person, didn’t always like his style but couldn’t argue the results but there is no defense for what he did. I do, however, think he verbally told the AD back in April and let him call all the shots.

    I’ll miss him and for the next 6-7 years wallow in our mediocrity due to his transgressions.

    But we will be back.

  55. overratedgators says: Jun 5, 2011 11:53 PM

    gatorfan: “I’m sure you’ll figure some way around answering the question!!!”

    You’re right. It’s called “not giving a shit what you think”.

  56. edgy says: Jun 6, 2011 12:20 AM

    Swcoach, the tragedy here is that you’d rather kill the messenger than listen to the message. If John got the quote wrong then note it and move on instead of spending message after message trying to extract a confession out of him (It’s too bad that Buckeye Nation wasn’t as dogged about getting Tressel to apologize for lying and thinking about his wins than he was the school). The overall message that John has been trying to state is that Tressel and his supporters need to come to grips with the fact that it WASN’T the fault of the Tattoo-Five but the adult in the room, who chose to lie instead of telling the truth and forcing the kids to sit out a couple of games. Because of his actions, the school faces the very real possibility that the NCAA will consider them ineligible for the year and make them vacate their 11 regular season wins and give up scholarships and face a year or more bowl ban. If this all happens, are you going to be one of those that blames the kids for what happened or finally come to grips that Tressel could have clean in April and all this would have never happened.

    Unfortunately, WordPress, as with all blog software, is pretty useless when it comes to searches but the fact is that if you did a search, as I have, you’d find article after article from John, where he is praising the school and the coach to the point that many have felt that he wasn’t unbiased about the school and then when he shows that he can be, the Buckeye fans turn on him and call him a liar and say that he couldn’t possibly be a fan. The difference between being a zealot and the adult in the room is that you put your blinders aside and see the situation for what it is. I’ve taken more crap from Trojan fans because I’ve called for them to get the Death Penalty to scare them and other programs but I shrug them off because I know that they’d put their head in the sand and blame others than deal with the reality that the school let the situation get out of control.

    Now, you might want to think why John’s being so hard on Tressel. Let’s stop to think that all he had to do was put the program ahead of his win total and they would have maybe lost 2 regular season games instead of one but there would have been no $ugar Bowl controversy and he would still be the coach. All he had to do was tell the truth instead of feigning ignorance and signing a compliance letter that stated that he knew of no violations in his program. All he had to do was act like the adult in the room and he didn’t and because of that, John can’t help but feel betrayed by his actions (Much like those who swore up and down that Pete Rose was telling the truth). If Tressel would have lived up to his reputation, none of this would have been a problem but instead, he acted like so many of the coaches that Buckeye Nation has criticized and for that, he lost his moral compass and he totally embarrassed the school and those that REALLY care about the good of the school.

  57. polegojim says: Jun 6, 2011 12:58 AM

    @overratedgators….EXACTLY my point.

    As a matter of fact, the higher the stakes, the MORE reason to protect, albeit it wrongly.

  58. southernpatriots says: Jun 6, 2011 4:19 AM

    Deb: Thank you for your encouragement. My daughter has never taught K before, just higher grades in elementary and middle school. She is credentialed in so many areas. The new director upon looking at her college transcripts (all A’s for her Master’s) and her certification, on why and how did she get so many certifications.

    She was able to share how she went to Spanish language school in Guatemala while helping with an orphanage there and same in other Central and South American countries, then again recently in Cuba while working with the very needy people in the Eastern Provinces. Then in studying French in Angers, France on her way to orphanages in Eastern Europe. She has a heart after the children, especially the most needy among us.

    buckeye044: Ohio State has one of the best research facilities in all the world along with a beautiful (and huge!) main campus. They have been in the higher rankings of college football (and other sports) for decades. They will be back. They will need a strong hand in a coach to reel back some of the abuses and Meyer may truly be the best choice, his daughter’s public diatribes aside. If that is the case, we are glad to get Meyer out of the SEC but know the competition may be much more competitive when he is able to recruit from the SEC areas the highest caliber of athlete which has generally escaped Ohio State in football over the past years. All our best to Ohio State to put all this behind them!

  59. clbuckley44 says: Jun 6, 2011 12:41 PM

    I was in attendance at the UA Walk for Tressel, and was standing very near him when he commented on the upcoming OSU/MICHIGAN game. He did NOT say anything about a$$ kicking. What he actually said was, “And on November 26th, we’re going to beat them again.”

  60. liveaid says: Jun 6, 2011 12:43 PM

    In your article he use the following Tressel quote: “Don’t forget: Nov. 26th we’re going to kick their ass!”

    You conclude the article with an “Update” which says: “the actual date of this year’s Ohio State-Michigan game is Nov. 26. Cut Tressel some slack”

    Am I missing something? I think Nov. 26th and Nov. 26 refer to the same date. You might want to cut yourself some slack – nitwit.

  61. gatorfan1 says: Jun 6, 2011 4:22 PM


    It’s not about whether you “give a shit” about what I say, it’s about the fact that YOU cannot tell the truth! Contrary to what you have posted in the past you NEVER have put your allegiance down on this board. Although you do everything you can to make it seem that you have!! What’s that all about???

    Who cares that you obsess so much about Florida that you have to have a negative moniker about them to introduce yourself to a blog, what matters is it just makes you irrelevant and extremely thin skinned. Wow, to be to scared, to post an allegiance on an annonymous blog!! What a stand up man you must be…

    Or as Deb just recently stated to another chickenshit poster like you on this board “How about you? Oh … that’s right. You’re afraid to tell us your allegiances so we’ll never know”.

  62. gladenole says: Jun 6, 2011 10:00 PM

    OSU Suckeyes.

    Enjoy your probation. What we got is a walk in the park compared to what is coming your way.

  63. gatorfan1 says: Jun 7, 2011 5:10 PM


    Henceforth you will now be known as:


    For all the lying and all that you do on this blog…but please keep the comments coming on Tressel’s lack of honesty…it’s always amusing to have hypocrites get on their “high horse” concerning other people’s lying. Fun stuff!!!

  64. texas1der says: Jun 9, 2011 6:28 PM

    OK, folks, I’ll admit up front: I was born in the U-M hospital, earned my undergraduate degree at U-M, and played on three Big Ten championship teams in my four years there. Even so, I’m saddened by what’s gone on at OSU in recent months and sincerely hope that dignity will be restored. Clearly the Buckeyes have had the superior football team over the past several years, and I don’t think they did it on the basis of illegal recruiting, academic cheating, or other factors affecting competition. It IS possible, however, that some of the athletes recruited at OSU (just as happens at U-M and most major colleges) were from backgrounds where good judgment and good priorities were not taught and reinforced in adolescence. It would behoove all colleges to spend more time coaching their athletes in being good representatives of themselves, their teams, and their institutions, and not just how to play their sport and comply with the minimum standards of academic eligibility and NCAA compliance. Many of these players continually engage in activities that merely keep them entrenched in poor behaviors they saw growing up, instead of being taught, led, and inspired to strive for higher goals. Their bodies and minds are primarily used by these universities to serve the god of athletic victory, and not to be shaped and sharpened to be motivated leaders of tomorrow.

    I also find it rather humorous that there are two camps of thought on what constitutes a “loyal fan” of “[insert school mascot here] Nation”…both groups being self-defined by its members. Generalizing a bit: One camp myopically and defiantly ignores the objective faults and flaws of their chosen school’s athletic program because of an obsessive and rabid desire to win (this camp’s members’ self-esteem is closely tied to the school’s winning percentage and titles). The other camp longs for a return to the days of the true scholar-athlete, who played for the love of the sport whether on scholarship or not, graduated, and worked a legal job to pay for his education, but isn’t willing to give up their luxury suite in the stadium paid for by the TV revenue those inner-city mercenaries down on the field or the court generate.

    As an athlete, I used to laugh in pity at the fans I saw in both camps; the former were embarrassing and annoying, and the latter were naive and hypocritical.

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