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Pete Carroll on vacated BcS title: ‘The whole thing is so unfortunate’

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Earlier this week, and as expected, USC was stripped of and forced to vacate their 2004 BcS championship due to the Reggie Bush imbroglio.

Many have chimed in on the BcS’ decision — including Tommy Tuberville continuing his stumping for the title for Auburn and Bob Stoops doing the exact opposite when it came to Oklahoma — with the big and, honestly, unexpected exception of the head coach of the ’04 Trojans, Pete Carroll.  Until now.

Breaking his week-long public silence, Carroll was interviewed by ESPN radio earlier today and was asked about having the title stripped.  As expected, Carroll played the card most everyone who doesn’t call The Plains home has: vacated or not, USC knows what happened on that field in January of 2005.

“Just watch the comments of the players,” Carroll said by way of “They know who won, who didn’t. [Matt] Leinart and Lofa Tatupu and those guys, they all know. The whole thing is so unfortunate.”

Just as expected, Carroll chided the NCAA for punishing players who had nothing to do with the scandal involving his Heisman-winning running back.

“[The NCAA has] to do what they do. They figure out how the thing is supposed to work,” Carroll said. “I don’t agree with much of any of it. It’s unfortunate that kids, years and years after, are punished for what the NCAA is dealing with from years and years before. That’s the most unfortunate thing … kids that were in junior high at the time, or in grade school, are paying the price for it.”

That would mean something and carry a heck of a lot more weight… if it weren’t coming from an individual who made sure he got the hell out of Troy before the NCAA fit hit the shan.  And under whose control an atmosphere was created that all but placed out a welcome mat inviting this very type of Bush thing to transpire, “the most unfortunate thing” that Lane Kiffin and “the kids that were in junior high… in grade school” are now forced to take part in cleaning up.

When you’re sitting in a plush NFL office in Seattle, though, it’s very, very easy to stake a claim to the moral high ground.  Especially when you ensured you weren’t the one left picking up the pieces.

Flight On!” though, right Pete?

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16 Responses to “Pete Carroll on vacated BcS title: ‘The whole thing is so unfortunate’”
  1. gatorprof says: Jun 11, 2011 5:10 PM

    The only unfortunate thing about it is that Pete and Reggie aren’t paying the price. At least they are disgraced on the college level, but that doesn’t hit them in their respective wallets.

  2. edgy says: Jun 11, 2011 5:24 PM

    I guess Deb would be proud of Pete and how he took up for all those “innocent” players….Give it up, Pete. It happened, get over it.

  3. sc0820 says: Jun 11, 2011 6:35 PM

    What a scumbag. Guy reminds me of John Edwards

  4. 78lion says: Jun 11, 2011 9:02 PM

    Carrol, they are punishing the institution that allowed it to happen, you moron.

  5. tlndma says: Jun 12, 2011 10:22 AM

    What “we know” Pete, is who cheated by playing ineligible players. Because of that, we will never know who was the “deserved” winner.
    Thanks for that.

  6. southernpatriots says: Jun 12, 2011 11:55 AM

    So Reggie makes out like a thief and Pete looks the other way, along with other staff and many boosters and fans and apparently NCAA investigators uncovered widespread coverup and acquiescence by so many who were a part of the University of Southern California that the university had to be disciplined that they and others would not do the same again. However, the player (Bush) and the coach (Carroll) seem to escape discipline.

    We agree with gatorprof. Somehow, it would seem that the coaches that go on to other coaching and players that then go on to make millions in the NFL should have a price to pay as well.

  7. virusgvr says: Jun 12, 2011 12:49 PM

    I think if they are going to vacate the title then they should vacate the pay as well. Make Pete pay back everything he was given except what an average person with a college education gets per year, which by my calculations is about 35-40k a year. I wonder what Pete Carroll made in all his time their at that school? He can keep the memories. That’s all good and fine, but keeping the money and just moving to the Seahawks job is something that should not be accepted. Anyone else agree?

  8. leftcoastnative says: Jun 12, 2011 6:15 PM

    The only way to obtain any measure of redemption for USC is to go after Pete and Reggie in court and make them and all of the others who contributed to the “extra benefits” pay for their sins. Not only are the wins vacated, but also look at the loss of revenues in the years to come for fewer TV games and obviously no BCS options.

  9. Deb says: Jun 12, 2011 10:14 PM

    edgy …

    Are you always a jackass or do you just play one on the football blog? If Charlie Manson says it’s hot outside on a 100-degree day, it’s not any less hot because Charlie is a lunatic. Whatever I think of Pete Carroll, yeah, he’s right: The most unfortunate thing is that kids who were in junior high and grade school in 2004 are now forced to clean up his and Reggie Bush’s mess.

    And for you to use quotation marks in calling those kids “innocent”–implying they somehow share complicity for wrongs committed when they could not have been more than 13 years old–simply means you are as stone cold crazy as Manson, though I hope not as malevolent.

  10. pnoty96 says: Jun 13, 2011 8:04 AM

    Hmm. Reggie Bush lost Heisman. Team lost championship. Can we all return our USC jerseys and championship videos for a FULL refund? Will USC return the millions they received? Will So-Cal return all the millions of dollars in tourist / hotel / liquor revenue? Will the BCS return the billions? Will the networks return their billions in Ad revenues? Will “Coach” Carroll return his bonus, salaries, etc. attributed to the game?..But an athlete cannot even accept a meal.

  11. dcviking says: Jun 13, 2011 10:15 AM

    I may have missed this, but does USC have to payback the money they got as part of the BCS payoff for that year?

    Likewise, I assume the same will happen to tOSU down the road.

    It would seem to me that if this is not the case it should be. Make the universities starting writing checks back to the appropriate body and that will hurt more than anything related to stripping titles, awards, etc.

    It is unfortunate that the kids today are being punished for the sins of those who came before them, however, what’s the alternative. You can’t let it slide — the institution has to be punished even though the guilty are long since gone.

  12. Deb says: Jun 13, 2011 11:51 AM

    @dcviking …

    You and pnoty96 have the solution: Make the universities write BIG checks. Nothing hurts a program more than a sock in the wallet.

    1. Fire every coach, AD, school administrator involved, not just a couple of scapegoats.
    2. Vacate any wins, awards.
    3. Suspend involved players. Secure the NFL’s cooperation in suspending players from pro eligibility for six months.
    4. BAN involved boosters from attending games, team functions for life.
    5. BAN involved agents from the business for life and lobby for more states to pass harsh laws that allow them to be prosecuted.
    6. Fine schools BIG $$$$.

    Obviously sanctions imposed on people who weren’t involved are not deterrents. If they were, the USC sanctions which had just been handed down would have deterred Tressell from lying to the NCAA. But they didn’t.

  13. dcviking says: Jun 13, 2011 12:04 PM

    @Deb –

    1. Fire every coach, AD, school administrator involved, not just a couple of scapegoats.

    Agreed in principal — more accountability with stiffer penalties is better, but that doesn’t stop the Pete Carrolls who know when the Po-Po is standing outside the door.

    2. Vacate any wins, awards.

    Currently in place — more or less.

    3. Suspend involved players. Secure the NFL’s cooperation in suspending players from pro eligibility for six months.

    This would be awesome, however, it may require that Ricardo Montabaln (sp) become NFL commissioner.

    4. BAN involved boosters from attending games, team functions for life.


    5. BAN involved agents from the business for life and lobby for more states to pass harsh laws that allow them to be prosecuted.

    Agreed — may need Ricardo for this one as well.

    6. Fine schools BIG $$$$.

    Agreed. As with most things, the bottom line is The Bottom Line.

  14. dcviking says: Jun 13, 2011 12:10 PM

    Sorry, the one other deterrent I always thought would be useful is to have the sanctions follow the Head Coach, or maybe any coaches who are ultimately implicated in wrong doing.

    And, obviously, for somebody like Pete Carroll — the sanctions don’t start until he comes back to coach at the college level.

  15. Deb says: Jun 13, 2011 12:34 PM

    @dcviking …

    LOL @ Ricardo. Hey, I would take the little guy as commissioner over Goodell :)

    The hard part would be catching the slippery snakes like Carroll. And the NCAA wastes so much time on minutia. They need to pare down the rulebook so they’re focusing on pay for play, major recruiting violations, and agent incursions. I don’t care if a fan picks up a kid’s check for dinner. Pare down the rules and ramp up the number of investigators so it doesn’t take seven years to figure out what happened.

  16. 4hrchubby says: Jun 13, 2011 4:14 PM

    How many of you agree with the BCS on anything? but on this you agree with them.

    The AP also knows what happened on the field, USC still has that Championship trophy..and since the BCS says there was no champion for that year, the AP trophy says it all.

    Those of you who try to lay all of this “Lack of Institutional Control” at the feet of Carroll and the football program are wrong.

    The USC football violations were lumped together with the O.J. Mayo basketball recruitment violation, which USC self-sanctioned, and the case of a woman’s tennis player who used an athletics department long-distance access code to make 123 unauthorized international telephone calls to family members.

    By putting all three cases together, the NCAA was able to hit USC with a Lack of Institutional Control violation.

    The NCAA/BCS violations committee…coming to a school near you!

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