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Reports Oregon paid $25K for contained no ’11 recruits?

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Uh.  Oh.

Earlier Monday, we noted that, in response to an open records request, Oregon released many documents related to recruiting services in general and one owned by Willie Lyles in particular.

We also noted that there was not really any new information contained in the documents.  Further digging by George Schroeder of the Eugene Register-Guard and Aaron Fentress of The Oregonian, however, revealed a whopper of an elephant squatting in the middle of the Ducks’ living room.

And, because of it, the university could have some explaining to do.

In late February of 2010, Oregon purchased for $25,000 from Lyles’ Complete Scouting Services what was described as a “2011 National Package” that detailed recruits from several states.  The only problem?  According to Schroeder, that package for 2011 contained zero recruits that would make up the following year’s recruiting class.  Instead, the vast majority of players highlighted in the 143-page book UO received from Lyles contained data on members of the 2009 recruiting class.

Additionally, 132 of the 140 players featured in the “2011” package were from the state of Texas, which calls into question that “national” aspect of the information Lyles gave to the school.

The Oregonian took a slightly larger swing at what appears to be a rather significant issue, noting that “[a] search of all the players listed revealed that virtually all graduated from high school in 2009 with a few graduating in 2010 or 2008.”

One of the recruits in the package dated 2011 was defensive lineman Nosa Eguae out of Mansfield Summit High School in Arlington, Texas. Eguae signed with Auburn in 2009 and started 11 games for the Tigers last season, including the BCS National Championship game against Oregon. He had four tackles, one for loss against the Ducks.

Tragically, another listed recruit, wide receiver Josh Rake out of Southlake Carroll High School in Southlake, Texas, died in a car accident in on Sept. 30, 2010 during his freshman year at the University of North Texas.

So, why in the hell would Oregon pay $25,000 for a package that’s essentially outdated by two years?

Regardless of whether or not the rumors are true, that Lyles pushed players to Eugene, these new details unearthed by the two Oregon newspapers will do nothing but reinforce the perception that Lyles steered recruits, including prized running back Lache Seastrunk in 2010, to the school and received a nice five-figure sum for his efforts in return.

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23 Responses to “Reports Oregon paid $25K for contained no ’11 recruits?”
  1. patbocam says: Jun 20, 2011 9:43 PM

    Quack attack is going down. USC and now Oregon, who’s next PAC-12?

  2. jaggedmark says: Jun 20, 2011 9:44 PM

    will do nothing but reinforce the perception that Lyles steered recruits, including prized running back Lache Seastrunk in 2010, to the school and received a nice five-figure sum for his efforts in return.
    ————————
    That’s exactly what happened.

  3. jesse1834 says: Jun 20, 2011 9:54 PM

    Yawn they all do this. The NCAA is the biggest communist organization in the US. It must be stopped, I wish the top programs would secede from the NCAA.

  4. oregontrash says: Jun 20, 2011 10:42 PM

    The University of Oregon (aka- Nike U) has enough money to buy anything they want. They have some of the best athletic facilities in the country.

    Too bad they can’t buy trophies to fill the trophy room.

    Classic example of new money.

  5. jaggedmark says: Jun 20, 2011 10:58 PM

    I hate USC & I hate Ohio St worse than Oregon, but let me say this.

    Paying to have players steered your way is worse than anything those two schools did (combined), Oregon. You criminals.

  6. oregontrash says: Jun 20, 2011 11:08 PM

    Ummm, jmark…. I think you might be forgetting the worst offender of them all…. Aubarn.

    Oh, that’s right, innocent until proven guilty… LMAO

    Sorry Tigers, you just might have the best fans in the country (most hospitable folks I’ve ever met), but you’re program is filthy dirty.

  7. neyvit says: Jun 21, 2011 1:01 AM

    This is pretty shocking. Not that I’m shocked it happened, but they were too incompetent to even *pretend* like they were “buying” an actual product. They couldn’t even take the effort of copying and pasting the ESPN 150, Rival, Scout recruit lists for the right year?

    And I believe that this is on a completely different level than USC/OSU. While coach(es) at those schools can be rightfully accused of turning a blind eye and even lying to cover the mistakes of the players, it never got to the point that the school itself was using its own funds to buy recruits.

    But the most frustrating thing about this is I wouldn’t be shocked if NCAA busts outs its “OH THIS IS A LOOPHOLE THAT’LL WE’LL ADDRESS IN THE FUTURE. NOTHING TO SEE HERE, LETS MOVE ON” similar to what it did with Cam Newton’s father admitting to trying to sell his kid’s services.

  8. cosanostra71 says: Jun 21, 2011 3:34 AM

    I’m a huge USC fan, and it pains me to say this, because I’ve been calling foul on Oregon for a few years now, but if Oregon goes down before Auburn does, I’m done with college football forever. The SEC bias isn’t even hidden anymore.

  9. centexhorn says: Jun 21, 2011 5:01 AM

    I’ve been saying that this Oregon thing is bigger than OSU for months now. We (Texas) didn’t even have a CHANCE with Lache Seastrunk (who is from right down the street from Austin in Temple, Texas) after Major Applewhite told Lache on the phone that Willie Lyles was “bad news” and to stay away from him. Lache didn’t even visit UT. Willie was pissed at that and Lache was pissed at us because Willie had convinced him he was his friend.

    Sadly, Lache seems to be pretty naive and vulnerable. He totally got taken advantage of. Even if he knew about it and got some cash in return, he still got exploited. I mean, Temple is just this little town.

    Who I feel sorry for the most is Oregon fans. They don’t deserve this at all.

    I hope it’s all a mix-up, but there are a lot of questions to be answered.

  10. buckeye044 says: Jun 21, 2011 8:46 AM

    There appears to be a systemic issue throughout major college sports. Just not sure how to correct it with the money being so large.
    If you pay players, how much is enough? If you let them sell their stuff, some jackass will way over pay.
    It’s sad, really. This is why the university presidents have been fighting not to have a playoff. The money would be so big, the pressure to skirt the rules would be even greater.

  11. burntorangehorn says: Jun 21, 2011 9:30 AM

    centex–UT backed off Seastrunk. There was apparently very little interest on UT’s part, based on Seastrunk’s public flamboyance and the hand he had permanently stuck out for fringe benefits.

  12. soflatrojan says: Jun 21, 2011 9:50 AM

    It was widely known that Seastrunk was a pay for play guy the year he came out. I know he was a heavy USC lean under Carroll and when Kiffin came in USC immediately pulled his offer. That’s probably a pretty good tell right there, you dont’t pull offeres from 5 star running backs. This is probably the reason a lot of schools backed off of him that and his nickname Lache MEstrunk.

    Oregon is as dirty as they come it was fitting to see Auburn vs U of Zero in the MNC. I am sure the more the investigate Oregon the more they are going to find.

  13. jw731 says: Jun 21, 2011 11:16 AM

    Every major collegiate program is dirty, you would have to have your head up you’re ass to think otherwise…..Do you happen to notice how much money is involved in major college sports, yes, they don’t do it for the money, they do it for the betterment of student-athletes lives…Uh huh..The NCAA schould change it’s acronym to PTAA…As in Barnum….

  14. paulbrownsrevenge says: Jun 21, 2011 1:03 PM

    College football is a business. It generates More money than it ever has. It’s more popular than ever. it’s market is much broader then the NFL. The big problem plain and simple is that College Football really became popular fast 15 years ago, and the NCAA did not know how to handle it. The NCAA is a business. College is a business. How much money do universities make off of kids that dont graduate. How are these institutions any different from a predatory lender??? They have a great thing going right now, but the media and its obsession with scandals is working on destroying football. Lets go back the way it was over a decade ago. let the media cover the games. let the local newspapers report players screwing up.

  15. centexhorn says: Jun 21, 2011 3:53 PM

    Fans of dirty programs love to say that every program is dirty.

  16. paulbrownsrevenge says: Jun 21, 2011 3:55 PM

    how is this story not getting the same or more attention than OSU. a few players sold stuff for tattoos, but these guys pay for players and it doesnt make the bottom line on espn. WOW

  17. paulbrownsrevenge says: Jun 21, 2011 4:01 PM

    every program has issues. when you deal with over 100 aggressive kids who were the best in HS, you are going to have troubles at some point. its how the program deals with it.
    “Fans of dirty programs love to say that every program is dirty”. find a prefect school with no arrests, drug problems, recruiting violations etc. it happens everywhere. There’s always one player that gives a team a black eye. In the SEC they have multiple eyes, so its no big deal

  18. paulbrownsrevenge says: Jun 21, 2011 4:04 PM

    The only programs you’ll find that arent dirty are the ones that don’t compete at a high level. Northwestern is a prefect example. Great school, Coach, Academic standards, and clean players…… wont ever win a National title. It’s hard to root against those schools no matter who you like.

  19. pricecube says: Jun 21, 2011 7:59 PM

    @paulbrownsrevenge

    I beg to differ. Maybe a lot of the programs at the top are dirty … I don’t know. As a TCU alum I believe we could have competed with anyone last year… We just had our best recruiting class ever… It had zero five stars and only a handful of four stars… I honestly do not believe we are doing anything under the table… (God I hope not)… In any case as others have said… the biggest losers in these scandals are always the fans. They need a way to penalize the individual players and coaches involved… perhaps retroactive fines based on a percentage (say 25%) of the coaches income for every yr the underhanded activity was taking place. That might incentivise running a clean program. Idk what the answer is honestly.

  20. paulbrownsrevenge says: Jun 21, 2011 10:37 PM

    @pricecube
    no i get what what your saying. It makes sense, its sad the schools get hammered for these things instead of coaches, agents, boosters, etc…. I think patterson has done an excellent job at TCU. I wish they would get invited to the big12. that would be fun to watch. anyways, I think the saddest part of all of this are the guys who go to play college football, work hard in the classroom and on the field. earn their spot…. then they suffer when the school looses out on a bowl game. pete carroll finds out trouble is coming, so he bails on the school and kids he recruited for bigger money(and no consequences) its sad

  21. waynefontes says: Jun 22, 2011 10:15 AM

    A fool and his money are soon parted.

  22. pricecube says: Jun 22, 2011 10:34 AM

    @pbr

    well said…

  23. southernpatriots says: Jun 24, 2011 3:27 AM

    Oregon is facing big challenges at this time. It could get worse before the first game. We hope it doesn’t. We want Oregon to be full strength for the first game with us. May we all enjoy the contest at Jerry’s World! Geaux Tigers!

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