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Harvey Updyke Jr.’s trial delayed

Harvey Almorn Updyke Jr.

For those hoping to see Harvey Updyke Jr. sweat it out in a good ‘ol fashioned southern courthouse this summer, prepare to be disappointed.

A judge agreed earlier today that the trial for Updyke, who is accused of poisoning the trees at Auburn’s Toomer’s Corner, will be postponed from this summer to the fall.

Updyke has pleaded not guilty to state charges for reasons of mental disease or defect. Updkye will not face federal charges, but was indicted by Lee County (Ala.) grand jury for, among other things, criminal mischief and the desecration of a venerated object.

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  1. be4bama says: Jun 30, 2011 6:48 PM

    He’s such an embarrassment to the BAMA Nation!!

  2. paulbrownsrevenge says: Jun 30, 2011 7:04 PM

    Yea right all you hell fire and brimstone billies’ love it. “dis iz y duh SEC is the best confrince”. yeeee hawww

  3. paulbrownsrevenge says: Jun 30, 2011 7:08 PM

    You people also have citizens who reenact a war you lost. You lost because you used slaves to do everything because your lazy. Most people in the south are very hospitable at first, then become very ignorant once you spend any time around them.

  4. southernpatriots says: Jun 30, 2011 7:11 PM

    We just visited the trees at Toomer’s Corner along with life long friends and alums of Auburn. The trees looked fine but when I asked some of those working around them, a faculty member of Auburn came over and told us that the apparent health of the trees is deceiving. There was damage to some of the main feeder roots and the damage to the trees cannot be ascertained until time goes by…maybe even years.

    They are doing all they can to save them. The wonderful act of kindness by Alabama alums and fans with Tide for Toomers is truly appreciated by the Auburn community. His attorney needs to plead Harvey the nutcase and not bring this guy to trial but get this guy some mental help.

    paulbrownsrevenge: We are going to say this before Deb does, “Hon, you embarass yourself!”

  5. be4bama says: Jun 30, 2011 7:13 PM

    @Paul towns revenge….why u wanna be so mean? You’re looking like the racist one!! Your in my prayers.

  6. southernpatriots says: Jun 30, 2011 7:13 PM

    paulbrownsrevenge: The North had slaves just as long as the South minus about 6 months. I guess they were lazy too, just six months less so?

  7. be4bama says: Jun 30, 2011 7:17 PM

    Southernpatriots. Good one!!! Where is Deb anyway???

  8. southernpatriots says: Jun 30, 2011 7:28 PM

    be4bama: We do not know. She is very precious to us, encourages(d) us when several of our family members went through life-death illnesses, and prayed for us and our daughter. I know she is facing similar health situations in her family so that may be occupying her at this time. We think she will weigh in soon! ha!

  9. paulbrownsrevenge says: Jun 30, 2011 7:34 PM

    cant wait until FSU and miami get real good again, so the SEC can to back to being a mediocre conference.

  10. be4bama says: Jun 30, 2011 8:29 PM

    Who watched the NCAA National Championship in BASEBALL this week? South Carolina vs Florida….those two baseball greats slugging it out. Oh my they’re from that pitiful SEC conference. We do more than football here!!!! Shucks ALABAMA’S gymnastic team won the National Championship again this year!!! Oh yeah…Auburn’s equestrian team did too.
    As my granny would say….Shame on you Paul. You should know what your talking about before opening your mouth

  11. southernpatriots says: Jun 30, 2011 8:53 PM

    be4bama: We watched a great series! We have been watching and following college baseball since Coach Skip Bertman brought the first college world series championship to LSU. We agree. Our grandma would say, if you keep your mouth shut, others may think you are stupid, but if you open it, they then know. We had similar mawmaws.

  12. Deb says: Jun 30, 2011 10:13 PM

    @paulbrownsrevenge …

    It’s always amusing when people with your spelling and grammar issues poke fun at the ignorance of others. I suppose you think people are laughing with you. Bless your heart.

    As southernpatriots pointed out, the North raked in money from the slave trade until war became a more profitable venture. But I wouldn’t talk about laziness if I were you. At least Southerners didn’t have to hire mercenaries to do their fighting for them. And despite being outgunned, Southern soldiers racked up twice the kills with half the personnel. Today Civil War re-enactments are popular pastimes with history buffs in the North as well as the South. And as you prove, bigotry knows no geographic divides. Only petty, small-minded fools judge people by the color of their skin or the land where they were born … or argue football based on a the outcome of a 146-year old political conflict. I believe that is called grasping.

    On the other hand, it’s not absurd to judge people by the handles they choose for themselves. When do you suppose the great Coach Brown will get his revenge? When son Mike drops dead so he’ll finally quit running the Bengals into the ground? Or when the Browns finally find their way into an end zone?

    As southernpatriots said … you embarrass yourself.

  13. Deb says: Jun 30, 2011 10:19 PM

    @be4bama & southernpatriots …

    Here I am! :) Haven’t been on the football sites as much lately. Trying to catch up on other things. But still checking in.

    southernpatriots, thanks so much for your prayers and well wishes. They mean more than you know. Things are somewhat better on this end for now, and that is a blessing. Hoping the pros settle their differences so we can have a good season of NFL and NCAA football for stress relief :)

  14. southernpatriots says: Jul 1, 2011 2:16 AM

    Deb: Great to hear from you and to hear the good news concerning your family. My brother is getting better and better, despite a violent illness he apparently picked up IN the hospital. He wrote a paper several years ago on how to cut down on illnesses being transmitted to patients in hospitals. It was instituted in Georgia but not in Louisiana, so here he is getting hit by poor habits by doctors, nurses and/or techs. He is pulling out of this new challenge now and still is on schedule to come home. We are rejoicing.

    Our sister is doing so much better…her strength is returning and they are finding less and less of the tumors. We are rejoicing.

    My daughter should sign her new teaching contract within a week or so. We are believing that everything will be as they have stated and that it will be smooth for her to sign. We are rejoicing.

    Moving is great work! She does not just have a few boxes of belongings but belongings for the children, a lifetime of photos and memories, a lifetime of teaching lesson plans, notes, teaching manuals and books, etc. It appears she do as you suggested, rent for at least 6 months, maybe longer, to make sure her home is sold, before getting into 2 mortgages. She just can’t afford 2 mortgages with her family.

    Our prayers continue for your family. We fully understand the burden of having loved ones who are not in the best of health.

    We so liked your statement of faith (and humor!) that their would be some good attorneys available soon. We sure hope the pros can settle soon because affecting the regular season would be very poor business for either side. Certainly, it hurts the players so much more. There are rumblings that there will be Congressional inquiries into the owner’s situations if the negotiations do not result in a settlement in time. We do need the NFL for stress relief. For us NCAA Football in general, SEC football in specific, and LSU football in most specific also helps, but we do like the excellence of play (for the most part) of the pros and especially like the Sunday afternoon slots for most NFL games.

    Thank you again for posting and being there.

  15. Deb says: Jul 1, 2011 12:37 PM

    @southernpatriots …

    I know what you mean about your brother. Was contracted a few years ago to write a book on improving the quality of care in various settings–in patient, out patient, behavioral, long-term care. The last place you want to be if you’re sick is a hospital :) I’m sure he’ll improve considerably once he gets home. What a blessing to hear about your sister. I pray she continues to improve and can soon be back on the keys.

    We’re very thankful for the improvements on this end, though we understand it’s a temporary respite. We just have to enjoy each good day. That’s hard for me sometimes because I tend to look ahead, but I’m learning. No one knows what tomorrow will bring.

    I love Alabama football and the SEC, but the NFL is my first love so I’m about ready to take my skillet and go visiting if they don’t work out something soon :)

  16. southernpatriots says: Jul 1, 2011 2:07 PM

    Deb: I have a Le Creuset skillet which is cast iron with a high heat fused enamel, it is heavy and one bean on the head should knock an owner or player rep. out cold! If you need it, we’ll ship one to you. ha.

    Thank you.

  17. whatswiththehate says: Jul 1, 2011 2:37 PM

    “Updyke has pleaded not guilty to state charges for reasons of mental disease or defect.”
    Judging by the many wildly false accusations pushed against Auburn in regards to Cam that was pushed by many Bama folks, even those in the media, I would say Updyke isn’t the only one who seem to be suffering from some sort of “mental disease or defect.” At least his own was acted out in the form of attacking trees and not running around lying and creating false stories of audio tapes of Cam and his father and God knows what else just to aid in the taking down of their arch rival school.

    Thank God for the few who can see the “forest for the trees” and understand that sports of any kind is there for our entertainment and if you can’t take losing, then don’t get emotionally involved.

  18. Deb says: Jul 1, 2011 4:19 PM

    whatswiththehate, no one made up anything about Newton. Preacher-daddy confessed. So we know he was pimping out his son for six figures, visited Auburn–a school not on Cam’s short list–and signed two weeks later. No, that isn’t proof of anything untoward. The investigation is ongoing. But given what’s known, it’s ridiculous to suggest the media and NCAA speculation is a sign of mental aberration.

    Harvey Updyke is a lunatic and his case should have been pled out to avoid wasting taxpayer dollars. Hopefully they’ll soon put him in a nice padded cell where he can’t do anymore harm.

  19. paulbrownsrevenge says: Jul 1, 2011 11:50 PM

    @Paul towns revenge….why u wanna be so mean? You’re looking like the racist one!! Your in my prayers.

    How were my comments racist, I was poking fun at hillbillies being ignorant. Where do I fall in your prayers? somewhere between ‘ please vacate auburn’s title’ and ‘ I wanna bang the wal mart greeter’

  20. paulbrownsrevenge says: Jul 1, 2011 11:52 PM

    Deb, you take these blogs a little too seriously…..hun.

  21. paulbrownsrevenge says: Jul 2, 2011 12:02 AM

    You SEC fans are ridiculous. No ones tunes in to college baseball. and who seriously cares about GYMNASTICS and EQUESTRIAN????? wow Way to validate my point. The SEC is a league of bandits. How many of your Football players either (a) don’t finish school. (b) get arrested. (c) are ruled academically ineligible. or (d) have much lower GPA’s and lower grad rates than other conferences.

    whens the last time penn state or northwestern have has these repeat problems. yea bigten sucks.

  22. southernpatriots says: Jul 2, 2011 3:12 AM

    paulbrownsrevenge: If this were an academic blog you might have a point. However, the graduation rates at Princeton, Harvard, Yale, Brown, William and Mary, and other such fine renowned institutions make a better point, that of course, escapes you.

    As much respect as we have for Penn State and Northwestern, when is the last time they won a national championship in football? Nothing negative intended to either institution, but since this is a football blog (and related topics with some excursions) that can be considered.

    Have Big 10/12 athletes ever been arrested? Have Big 10/12 athletes not finished school, have they ever been ruled academically ineligible, etc.? Many athletes the SEC recruits are from impoverished backgrounds and this academic path is their path out of the cycle. Harvard recruits different athletes, as does Yale.

    There are better posters than we are that have studied this matter and have much more intimate knowledge than do we, and we are sure they will comment as they have time.

  23. Deb says: Jul 2, 2011 12:41 PM

    @paulbrownsrevenge …

    If Big 10 presidents read this blog, there hasn’t been so much debate among them since Leaders & Legends. They’re all insisting you must have gone to the other guy’s institution.

    Whoosh!!! I know. Right past ya.

    Didn’t call you a racist, called you a bigot–someone who stereotypes members of a particular group (in this case, Southerners) and regards them with ignorance, hatred, and intolerance. Fits you to a tee.

    Sorry to burst your bubble, but I didn’t say anything about praying for you. I’m comforted in the knowledge that eventually bigots die. My prayers are that the next generation might be more enlightened.

  24. southernpatriots says: Jul 2, 2011 2:00 PM

    Deb: Whoever originally thought of U-Store places was a brilliant businessman and great thinker. I don’t think our daughter could rent a house without them. She will rent a very small place to save money while she has to pay the other mortgage. She is making some quality decisions, and it makes me proud. She says that having children give her that perspective but I think she had those qualities before and I feel proud that we did something right.

    Your last post is funny and one of your best. It has much more in it, than the relatively few words would indicate. I wonder if there is such bigotry in people today or if they are pretending? It truly is a shame either way. Life is really too precious and short to have those attitudes.

    We hosted a party for our grandson (by my daughter spoken of above) and 50 plus of his friends came. More than half had a much darker skin color, 4 had foreign born parents who struggled to speak English, and just about all the European ethic groups were represented. You could not tell the difference between any of the children in the fun they were having, the fun play, the joy on their faces, etc. All the children were Americans! We’ll probably do that again next year when they move into their house. All the children loved the smoked hot dogs, Cajun fries, Tropical slushies, etc. One of the parents is from India and asked us to cater his child’s party! ha. I thanked him but told him we could not do this. We were flattered. There was no bigotry among the children, and not even we could see among the parents.

  25. alligatorsnapper says: Jul 2, 2011 4:38 PM

    JT: last line, Jul 1, 2011 11:50 PM

  26. Deb says: Jul 2, 2011 6:41 PM

    @southernpatriots …

    Thanks for your kind comments on that post–was hoping the deeper meaning would come through. Sometimes I worry about not being the best representative of my faith. As someone else put it, I have seen a lot and take a hard line at times. Am naturally on the softer side, so I’ve had to learn to speak up for myself. And sometimes my temper gets the better of me 😉

    Bigotry does still exist, but things improve with each generation. The more kids are exposed to multiculturalism, the more comfortable they’ll be with people who don’t look, talk, and think just like they do. Your grandson’s party sounded like the ones my niece and nephew have. They’re our hope for a better future.

  27. southernpatriots says: Jul 2, 2011 10:06 PM

    Deb: The deeper meaning of your words came through crystal clear to us, as we are sure it did to many regular posters, but to the one(s) it is most needed, we wonder?

    We hate bigotry, because it demeans people, makes people objects, and greatly lessens their importance. With bigotry we can dismiss people we don’t like–don’t like the texture of their hair or hair color, don’t like the shape of their nose or mouth, don’t like the shade of their outer most layer of skin, don’t like their ___________.

  28. paulbrownsrevenge says: Jul 3, 2011 2:22 AM


    Many athletes the SEC recruits are from impoverished backgrounds and this academic path is their path out of the cycle.

    So you’re saying it’s excusable for them do get into trouble, and use the institution as a stepping stone for a pro career? I mentioned Penn State and Northwestern because they do things the right way. The only SEC school that does that is Vandy (also never wins). The point i’m trying to make is that the Big Ten takes considerable pride in it’s academics. A vast majority of players from the southeast region would not qualify academically to play in any B10 school. So how does winning the games on the field come before academics? All the SEC fan cares about is winning, as do most fans. Where I have trouble with it is when these schools take anyone if they cal play at a high level. You don’t see that often up here.

  29. paulbrownsrevenge says: Jul 3, 2011 2:27 AM

    I have no problem admitting the SEC has dominated college football the past decade. But I also remember when the SEC was a very mediocre conference in football for a long time. The tides will change soon enough.

  30. Deb says: Jul 3, 2011 3:05 PM

    @paulbrownsrevenge …

    You’re rewriting history (again) for your own convenience. Your stereotyped comments about Southerners in general–slavery, Civil War re-enactments, and vulgarities about women in the South praying to “bang” Wal-Mart greeters didn’t have anything to do with academic standards at Southern universities. They were simply ridiculous, ignorant, bigoted comments about Southerners.

    No, the other schools in the SEC don’t have the same academic standards as Vanderbilt. The other schools in the Big 10 don’t have the same academic standards as Northwestern. On the whole, however, the academic standards of the SEC universities have dramatically improved over the last two decades and several SEC schools are now rated comparable to or better than several Big 10 schools. Try to keep up.

    The parents of SEC students are just as anxious for their children to get a good education as the parents of Big 10 children. And we aren’t the ones constantly trolling other teams’ threads making ignorant, bigoted comments about entire regions of the country simply because we’re so petty and small-minded that we’re incapable of losing with grace. If academics were your first priority, you wouldn’t feel compelled to come onto these threads and make vulgar comments about Southerners just because of the SEC’s athletic superiority.

    If you remember a time when the SEC was consistently mediocre, you’re too old to be behaving so shabbily. I’m a Bama fan, and we respect our rich history of championships. For me, Wallace Wade, Frank Thomas, Bear Bryant, and Gene Stallings are as important as Nick Saban. Mature football fans learn how to take the good with the bad without whining and bad sportsmanship.

  31. southernpatriots says: Jul 3, 2011 5:04 PM

    Deb: Thank you. Thank you again. Have a wonderful and blessed day!

  32. Deb says: Jul 3, 2011 11:31 PM

    @southernpatriots …

    You, too! :)

  33. paulbrownsrevenge says: Jul 4, 2011 1:51 AM

    Deb, its not poor sportsmanship to point out that the SEC puts academics on the back burner for football. You think your right ALL THE TIME. You take this stuff too seriously. All of your comments have to be 3 paragraphs long. It shows you have a control problem. everyone is entitled to an opinion. that’s why these sites exist. You have way too much time on your hands. Big10 academic standards for football players hands down are higher than the SEC’s. PLAIN and SIMPLE. That’s the only point I’m trying to make.

  34. paulbrownsrevenge says: Jul 4, 2011 1:52 AM

    Since when is history in sports not important?

  35. paulbrownsrevenge says: Jul 4, 2011 1:58 AM

    The southern stereotype comments were called jokes! Now debbie, jokes can be funny to some, and hurtful to others. If a joke makes you laugh, good. If one hurts your feelings, sorry. You make alot of great points on here, but like i said earlier: southerners are always nice and hospitable at first, then become stubborn and “know it all’s next”.

    now go ahead and give me my thumbs down for not agreeing with you about everything.

  36. jw731 says: Jul 4, 2011 4:53 AM

    Dynamite Bob would have blown up the trees….amatuer

  37. edgy and imtalking are one in the same says: Jul 4, 2011 11:33 AM

    it is interesting to note tho (while debating academics) that duron carter couldn’t qualify academically for OSU again once he left but he sure qualified well for saban at alabama

    what do you chalk that up to, deb, the kid being really good at football so alabama and their “standards” just looked the other way?

  38. Deb says: Jul 4, 2011 12:32 PM

    @paulbrownsrevenge …

    ROFL … All my responses are three paragraphs? Guess I could just write three posts of one paragraph each like you.

    I take it way too seriously and have too much time on my hands … yet here you are … still whining and arguing and insisting I agree with you. Hmmm … who has control issues?

    Yes, all Southerners are hospitable at first, then turn mean and nasty. But you’re a swell guy, paulie, coming onto a thread, attacking and ridiculing all SEC fans plus an entire region of people, calling them stupid, yada yada yada. :roll:

    You’re perfectly entitled to your opinions, paulie. And you’re entitled to be criticized for them … just like you boys criticize me.

  39. Deb says: Jul 4, 2011 12:57 PM

    edgy and imtalking are one in the same says:

    duron carter couldn’t qualify academically for OSU … but he sure qualified well for saban at alabama. what do you chalk that up to, deb …


    Duron left OSU because of his poor grades, enrolled at Coffeyville JUCO, and improved his grades. Neither Duron nor OSU has elaborated on why the school didn’t feel he’d improved enough to qualify.

    It may have escaped your notice, but their are 12 schools in the SEC and 12 schools in the Big 10. As I said before, “the academic standards of the SEC universities have dramatically improved over the last two decades and several SEC schools are now rated comparable to or better than several Big 10 schools.” U.S. News & World Report ranks the academic standing of America’s universities each year. Ohio State does rank above Alabama. Perhaps that was enough to allow for his acceptance at Alabama, or perhaps there were other issues.

    It really doesn’t matter because given what’s happened at Ohio State in the last few weeks, a player of Duron Carter’s caliber would not have returned to the Buckeyes even if they’d rolled out the red carpet.

    Buckeye Boy, you boys have your own problems ahead. Spewing your sour grapes at the SEC won’t make them go down any easier.

  40. paulbrownsrevenge says: Jul 5, 2011 2:15 AM

    @ Deb haha. DurrrrRon left because he could’t pass his classes. EDGY nailed it. Where does he go? SEC!!!!! lower standards for football players. It it what it is. He left because Tressel told him he didn’t care who his daddy was, make grades or you can’t play here. Alabama will be back on probation in no time, just like the good ol’ days.

  41. paulbrownsrevenge says: Jul 5, 2011 2:19 AM

    “the academic standards of the SEC universities have dramatically improved over the last two decades and several SEC schools are now rated comparable to or better than several Big 10 schools.”

    several SEC schools as in vanderbilt and who Debbie? Call Vandy and Northwestern a stale mate.
    outside of that, your best isn’t as good as our worst.

  42. paulbrownsrevenge says: Jul 5, 2011 2:24 AM

    Duron had the nerve to complain about playing time when Tressel (who took his players academics seriously) knew he wasn’t showing up to over half his classes. If he doesn’t try to leave early for the NFL like most SEC players do, I’m sure he’ll be on pace to graduate with honors from Alabama.

  43. Deb says: Jul 5, 2011 11:15 AM

    @paulbrownsrevenge …

    Are you still here, paulie? And still writing multiple posts … in the middle of the night? You are taking this too seriously and have way too much time on your hands … tsk tsk.

    Actually Vandy and Florida have higher academic standards than OSU and Georgia’s are equal to Ohio State’s. Alabama’s are in the ballpark. No, Carter left OSU and went to JUCO, improved his grades then returned to Div I. Yes, we’re all aware of Tressel’s moral compass. :roll:

    Carter will get a surprise at Bama. Saban runs a taut ship and has dramatically improved the academic standing and graduation rates of Bama players. He’ll have to attend class and keep up his grades at Bama, too, where graduation rates for athletes now exceed those at Ohio State.

    And edgy hasn’t been on the board. That was Buckeye Boy, a schizo with identity issues.

  44. secgreatness says: Jul 5, 2011 1:47 PM

    I just find it funny that non-sec fans like to point out whatever statistics they can to help them sleep at night after losing football games. Argue academics, argue arrests, argue whatever you want, If Oregon would’ve beaten Auburn no one would mention academics. However, since 4 different SEC teams have won 5 championships in a row, it has less to do with football and more to do with academics. Yawwwwnnnn!

    Hey non-sec fans, take the sand out of your va-jay-jay and find a different arena to cry about. It’s pretty pathetic to blame losing 49-7 (MSU vs Bama) to academic standards opposed to the quality of football being played.

  45. edgy and imtalking are one in the same says: Jul 5, 2011 8:47 PM

    secgreatness, back from promoting racism, are we?

    glad to see you back on here, lemme ask you, what sec school were you kicked out of?

  46. secgreatness says: Jul 6, 2011 10:22 AM

    I don’t explain myself to kids who use fake usernames,

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