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Rumors surface once again connecting A&M, Sooners to SEC


As the great Yogi Berra once opined, it’s déjà vu all over again.

In June of 2010 and in the midst of The Great Expansion Apocalypse That Really Wasn’t, rumors were flying across the vast expanses of the Internet — at around the same time a Texas-led coalition was rumored to be heading west to form the Pac-16 — that Texas A&M and Oklahoma would be leaving the Big 12 for the SEC.  Fast-word roughly 13 months, and those rumors have surfaced yet again.

Ahead of a Thursday closed-door, “informational”meeting of the A&M Board of Regents that will involve a discussion of The Longhorn Network, the Sporting News, citing unnamed sources, is reporting that TAMU as well as OU are so concerned over the network and the accompanying disadvantage that the schools could turn to the SEC if their fears aren’t satisfactorily allayed.  Additionally, weekly conversations have reportedly been taking place between A&M officials and the SEC according to 1620-AM in Omaha Wednesday evening.

There were no further details in TSN’s report regarding a potential A&M/OU jump to the SEC.

Shortly before TSN’s report as well as the Omaha radio stations addition to the rumor mill, Slive spoke to reporters and addressed the issue of expansion, and didn’t exactly slam the door shut on bulking up the nation’s top football conference.

“It is my job to make sure the SEC is the premiere league,” Slive said when asked about adding teams to the conference’s current 12-team lineup. “For me to exclude any action that would preclude that from happening would be inappropriate. …

“I can’t tell you what other people will do. I’m going to think about and do things that are in the long-term best interest of the SEC. That’s what I meant by what I said last time. If there’s a paradigm shift, we’re going to be strategic and thoughtful and we’re going to continue to be strategic and thoughtful. I’m going to leave it at that.”

The reason behind this latest round of rumors and the apparent renewed interest on the part of A&M and OU in the SEC is the Longhorn Network generally and the televising of high school games on that network specifically.  It’s doubtful anything meaningful or game-changing comes out of A&M’s regents meeting tomorrow, although the possibility of that occurring down the not-distant-road seems to be growing by the day.

Kind of like last year, actually.  You know, the whole déjà vu thing.

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33 Responses to “Rumors surface once again connecting A&M, Sooners to SEC”
  1. mdnittlion says: Jul 20, 2011 8:31 PM

    I said it before and I’ll say it again seriously take the Big-12 money and let it go or man up move on those are really the only choices available.

    I don’t think A&M is going anywhere, because sometimes you “just have to dance with the one you came with” stop bringing up leaving and accept chance.

  2. mrcowpatty says: Jul 20, 2011 8:38 PM

    And the SEC wins another National Championship. No shit, when you have half of the country in their conference.

  3. lucky5934 says: Jul 20, 2011 10:03 PM

    Seems a little overdramatic to say “Half the country is in once conference”. Sounds like someone is NOT an SEC fan….

  4. drozman says: Jul 20, 2011 10:30 PM

    12 universities is half the country….?

  5. paparoach25 says: Jul 20, 2011 10:39 PM

    the south east dominates sucker . it where football is the second religion

  6. southernpatriots says: Jul 20, 2011 11:52 PM

    There are legitimate reasons the SEC is dominant which have been discussed by the experts and just spurts for several years now. In an extreme condensation: 1. talent pool in South is better 2. larger stadiums in average in SEC with expansion plans ongoing bringing in greater revenue 3. paying coaches better, getting better coaches 4. SEC rules of sharing all bowl and extra game profits, fostering a conference unity 5. history and intrinsics

    Both Texas A & M and Oklahoma will use the threat of joining the SEC to maneuver for a better share of the proposed network but will not propose to join the SEC. Being on the outside of the NC and looking in, does eat at Stoops but he can blame no one but himself.

    It all comes down to money, but Texas and those with this new network cannot allow A & M and OK to bolt, because the new network would lose appeal and value with the two universities missing. These money considerations will be the deciding factors on new conferences and contracts in the future as they have been in the recent past.

  7. mrcowpatty says: Jul 21, 2011 12:37 AM


    Is you first religion have anything to do with your first cousin?


    easy pick-ins this evening, “Half the country is in once conference”


    I have to agree with you that the SEC has an advantage with home grown talent, those statistic can not be denied. Now, if you can just keep them out of jail the SEC will prevail.

  8. Deb says: Jul 21, 2011 12:58 AM

    mrcowpatty, drinking kerosene is dangerous. You should stop.

  9. Deb says: Jul 21, 2011 1:02 AM

    @southernpatriots …

    Thank you for a thoughtful, well-reasoned post that makes so much more sense than Slive’s comment. Call me crazy, but I really do not want teams that aren’t in the Southeast to be in the Southeast Conference. And I don’t really want Tubby back, either ;)

  10. mrcowpatty says: Jul 21, 2011 2:02 AM

    I thought it would be past your bed time. And what’s wrong at poking a little fun at the SEC. From what I see on CFT, it looks like the pile is getting a little larger there in the southeast.

    Good night

  11. nyctexan says: Jul 21, 2011 2:43 AM

    Hook ‘em

  12. florida727 says: Jul 21, 2011 7:22 AM

    Slive does need to be careful about one thing: having certain schools out there always dangling the “we’re-jumping-to-the-SEC” carrot every time they don’t get what they want in their own league. If the threat is never realized, when does it stop being a threat? Think: boy who cried wolf.

    “southernpatriots” brought up an important point… the Longhorn Network cannot afford to let A&M and Zero-U jump ship. They have enough of an issue only televising a couple of UT football games per season (the school cash cow is obviously football), since many other games are locked into network/ESPN deals already. Seriously, and with all due respect, even the most loyal Longhorn fan is NOT subscribing to the network to watch women’s volleyball, swimming & diving, golf, tennis, etc. The loss of two major football rivals and the potential of airing those football games someday on the network, makes its viability shaky at best. No one cares if the network is televising UT v. West Texas State AM&N School for The Blind.

  13. southernpatriots says: Jul 21, 2011 8:28 AM


    A feature article was done by a local newspaper following a graduate of their local high school in 1990. At his 10 year reunion, almost half his graduating class was in prison and 4 were dead due to drug related violence. Out of those not dead and not in prison only 2 were gainfully employed and that included the young man the paper was following. None in prison or dead were on the state championship football team, however. No football players, or even those on the 3rd string but on the team were in prison! Some familiar with the Louisiana penal system at Angola would comment that those in prison were gainfully employed making license plates and road signs, as well as growing their own food, thanks to a great man and the warden, Burl Cain.

    The truth about organized sports in general and football in particular in the South or even where you are mrcowpatty, is that a very small percentage of those participating are ever arrested or become involved in a negative way with law enforcement.

    However, among those in general society, especially in the inner city and among minorities, the percentage is very high. So the truth is, if you want your children to stay out of trouble, get an education, be a productive citizen, whether or not they ever play college ball, get them involved in organized sports at any level. That is one indisputable advantage for those who participate in football, basketball, soccer, baseball, etc.

  14. bradentonbuc says: Jul 21, 2011 10:15 AM

    Let’s not forget the fundamental problem here. The NCAA will not let a coach buy a prospect a candy bar, but they will allow a college to have sole telecast rights to their football games!?!? Makes no sense, even in Texas. High school football being telecast on a college network is an advantage other schools can not match and should not be allowed ANYWHERE!

  15. Deb says: Jul 21, 2011 10:24 AM

    @southernpatriots …


    @mrcowpatty …

    I don’t like bigots, whether they’re spewing their idiocy at a race or a region.

  16. mrcowpatty says: Jul 21, 2011 11:27 AM


    I’m hardly a bigot. When someone spouts off that football is a religion I find that to be a little ridiculous. And as far as the SEC is concerned, that conference is just as corrupt as the next. So now I’ll give you and all your SEC fans the chance to throw barbs at me. I like the Big Ten. So have at it all you politically correct SEC fans. I can’t wait for your responses.

  17. mrcowpatty says: Jul 21, 2011 12:31 PM


    I agree that sports keep young adults off the streets. The only problem I have is when their not involved in sports. With the continued decline
    in education of our youth the problem will only expand. Also may I add, in the community that I live in they won’t defund sports but will lay off teachers. And I for one would rather have more educators than someone who can carry a football and be unemployable by the time the get out of high school.

  18. be4bama says: Jul 21, 2011 3:03 PM

    Mrcowpatty I won’t waste my time

  19. southernpatriots says: Jul 21, 2011 3:44 PM

    be4bama: Thank you. Succinct and to the point….

    mrcowpatty: We don’t think we will waste any more of our time either.

  20. Deb says: Jul 21, 2011 4:26 PM

    mrcowpatty …

    Give up before that hole you’re digging caves in and smothers you.

  21. mrcowpatty says: Jul 21, 2011 6:04 PM

    Thank you for your responses. But really, 15 thumbs down for educating your children to someone playing football. Unbelievable!

  22. mrcowpatty says: Jul 21, 2011 6:48 PM

    State Education Rankings: Failed to Graduate High School

    1. Mississippi (21.2%)

    2. Texas (20.8%)

    3. (tie) California (19.8%); Louisiana (19.8%)

    5. Kentucky (19.7%)

    6. Alabama (19.1%)

    7. Arkansas (18.8%)

    8. West Virginia (18.5%)

    9. Tennessee (18.2%)

    10. New Mexico (18%)

    11. South Carolina (17.8%)

    12. (tie) Georgia (17.1%); North Carolina (17.1%)

    14. Rhode Island (17%)

    15. (tie) Arizona (16.3%); Nevada (16.3%)

    17. Oklahoma (16.1%)

    18. New York (15.9%)

    19. Florida (15.1%)

    20. Illinois (14.4%)

    21. (tie) Missouri (14.3%); Virginia (14.3%)

    23. Indiana (14.2%)

    24. Delaware (13.3%)

    25. Pennsylvania (13.2%)

    26. New Jersey (13.1%)

    27. Ohio (13%)

    28. Maryland (12.5%)

    29. Michigan (12.4%)

    30. Idaho (12.1%)

    31. Oregon (11.9%)

    32. Connecticut (11.8%)

    33. Massachusetts (11.6%)

    34. Colorado (11.4%)

    35. North Dakota (11.1%)

    36. (tie) Kansas (11%); South Dakota (11%); Wisconsin (11%)

    39. Maine (10.7%)

    40. Washington (10.6%)

    41. Hawaii (10.5%)

    42. Iowa (10.4%)

    43. Nebraska (10.2%)

    44. Utah (9.7%)

    45. (tie) Montana (9.6%); New Hampshire (9.6%); Vermont (9.6%)

    48. Alaska (9.4%)

    49. Wyoming (9.1%)

    50. Minnesota (8.9%)

  23. mdnittlion says: Jul 21, 2011 7:30 PM

    @ mrcowpatty

    Wow maybe it’s the fact that I went to grad school, but you have to know how to read data to make an argument. The population in Montana is extremely low compared to other states it’s size, it only has one area code. Those numbers would be more impressive if you included the populations of the states I mean comparing the amount of individuals currently residing in Texas to say Vermont isn’t exactly a real scientific comparison. The city of Austin has a population of 790,390 and the whole state of Vermont 625,741, so it’s easier to see why Vermont as such a low number compared to a more populated state.

  24. mrcowpatty says: Jul 21, 2011 7:55 PM

    Thank you for response, the only point that I’m trying to make is that the states in the southeast are at the top of the scale. I won’t attach the link because it may not be approved by MSNBC. If one was to put into their browser ” graduation rates for high schools” you will find data that supports my talking points. You will also find other data that you may find very interesting about the on going education in our nation.

  25. mrcowpatty says: Jul 21, 2011 8:53 PM

    Here again, all the thumbs down, you know sometimes you just can’t fix stupid!

  26. Deb says: Jul 21, 2011 8:56 PM

    @mrcowpatty …

    You’re a jackass, of the first order. You’re not trying to make a sociological point. You’re like all the other jackasses whose noses are out of joint because the SEC is now the dominant football conference in the nation. You’re not bright enough to understand what southernpatriots posted–the football reasons the SEC is dominating at this point in time. And since you’re a spoiled brat who can’t argue the point from the football side, you start the nonsense about how the Big 10 is smarter. Really? Not if you’re any indication.

    All you’ve done is demonstrate that you have zero understanding of the historic and socioeconomic factors that have contributed to the differences in university academic rankings or high school graduation rates in various regions of the country. mdnittlion tried to explain the one of the simpler factors–population–on graduation rate, but it flew over your head. As he noted, you don’t have the vaguest idea how to analyze data.

    Yeah, mrcowpatty, you’re right. God just decided to put the smart folks in the northeast U.S. and the stupid folks in the southeast. And I guess he just dropped you on your head.

  27. be4bama says: Jul 21, 2011 9:37 PM

    I just Deb would come put and spank you mrcowpatty. Go SEC and ROLL TIDE ROLL.

  28. be4bama says: Jul 21, 2011 9:38 PM

    My bad….that was come out and spank…

  29. be4bama says: Jul 21, 2011 9:41 PM

    I’m going to try this one more time.
    I just knew Deb would be out to spank you mrcowpatty.

  30. mrcowpatty says: Jul 21, 2011 10:40 PM

    Hook, line and sinker, lmao

  31. mrcowpatty says: Jul 21, 2011 11:46 PM


    Were going to have a geography lesson this week to see if we can locate where the Big Ten presides. The last time I checked it is NOT in the Northeast. Please bring you Atlas. I promise there will be no trick questions.

  32. mrcowpatty says: Jul 21, 2011 11:46 PM

    We are

  33. Deb says: Jul 22, 2011 12:23 PM

    Yes, mrcowpatty, I know where the Big 10 teams are located. I went to a Midwestern university myself. It’s called a principled argument. Again, you’re a master of skirting the meat of the discussion and poking at the peas. So whether you want to pea-poke or pretend you’re above it all and just baiting the little folks, the fact remains that you can’t make the intellectual argument, so you engage in petty diversionary tactics. And the other fact remains that none of this pettiness will help you win a football game.

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