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Report: Dan Beebe and Mike Slive had heated phone call exchange

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The tensions between Texas A&M and the Big 12 have become an undeniable barrier as the Aggies look for a possible new home in the SEC. But as with any conference shifting, that tension has reportedly branched out beyond College Station.

In a story originally about NCAA president Mark Emmert‘s attempts to unify conference commissioners over the “cannibalistic approach” to expansion, the New York TimesPete Thamel writes that Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe and SEC commissioner Mike Slive got into a heated phone conversation last week over the very topic, a high-ranking college official with “direct knowledge of the call” said.

Of course, Beebe has publicly denied that such a heated exchange ever existed.

We have been very direct but have not had any conversations with MIke Slive I would describe as heated, ever,” Beebe stated via a tweet from Chuck Carlton of the Dallas Morning News shortly after the Times’ article was published.

That denial, of course, was reported shortly after Carlton tweeted that a Big 12 source could confirm the heated phone call.

But whether or not there was a heated phone call, it’s reasonable to believe that Beebe would be upset over potentially losing a very, very valuable member of his conference – if he’s really serious about keeping A&M, that is. Such a loss could jump-start a domino effect of conference shifts that could evict Beebe from his current home.

That’s where Emmert is trying to step in and gather the commissioners around the proverbial campfire for a song or two — with the permission of the NCAA’s lawyers.

“I think people have asked him to make some phone calls,” said Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott. “He’s doing exactly what he should be doing.

“He’s in a position of influence. He’s doing what members are asking him to do,” Scott said.

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15 Responses to “Report: Dan Beebe and Mike Slive had heated phone call exchange”
  1. cappa662 says: Aug 15, 2011 11:33 PM

    The Big 12 is done because it gave Texas way too much power. They looked at Nebraska as the step child… and they left for the Big 10. I have no idea why Oklahoma isn’t trying to flee the Big 12. The Longhorns have their own Network and making money off of the Big 12 games. Insane! Grow some balls and leave!

  2. burntorangehorn says: Aug 16, 2011 12:32 AM

    cappa, it’s not because they gave Texas way too much power. That shows only a superficial understanding of the issues. There are many issues that are far bigger.

    Need me to name one? Geography. The Big 12 is a conferences that is geographically located at the crossroads of all the other conferences. When the Pac-X wanted to expand, and if and when it expands in the future, the Big 12 was the natural target. When any of the eastern conferences (Big Ten, SEC, ACC, and in fantasyland, the Big East) wishes to expand, sure they could cannibalize each other, but the Big 12 is also regional for all of those. There’s just no expansion scenario in which the Big 12 won’t be involved, because that’s just Big 12 geography.

    Texas is not to blame for this; sparse population, geography, and sour grapes are.

  3. rashardmendenballs says: Aug 16, 2011 12:42 AM

    @burntorangehorn the best argument you have is geography!?!?

    Are you f-ing kidding me!! this is not about geography THIS IS COLLEGE FOOTBALL SON, THIS IS ALL ABOUT MONEY!!!!

  4. teke184 says: Aug 16, 2011 12:45 AM

    It all comes down to money and, thanks to the way the Big 12 revenue is whacked up in the most recent TV deal, Texas gets the most, followed by OU and A&M, then crumbs for everyone else.

    Combine that with the school getting additional money from the Longhorn Network at the expense of the rest of the conference and you’ve got a mutinous atmosphere amongst 9 of the 10 member schools.

  5. Deb says: Aug 16, 2011 12:50 AM

    They’ve been having the revenue-sharing debate in the NFL for years. The difference is that if the big-earning pro teams don’t share, the small-market teams could go under. But in the NCAA, those teams have other options. They can sell a foothold in their territory for a piece of another conference’s pie. The Big 12 was foolish to gamble that so many teams would be content to settle for the Longhorns’ leavings when they can make other arrangements as Nebraska has done. Beebe will be lucky to keep his job. And if push came to shove, Slive would have him for breakfast.

  6. dnafe says: Aug 16, 2011 12:59 AM

    Really? Nebraska in the Pacific and TCU in the East? Geography is not in the equation, burntorange. Televising high school football games was the last move of narcissistic nonsense from your athletic department. If the A&M atty’s can get out of the $30 million penalty for leaving the Big 12 (like Nebraska and Colorado), you can just go ahead and call it the Longhorn Conference. Hope you enjoy those unwatchable games against Baylor and Iowa State. Oh yeah, and you lost those last year? Best of luck to you and yours, hope you can add Cougar High.

  7. georgeanderson2 says: Aug 16, 2011 1:30 AM

    2011 Big East football champions…TCU. Geography does not factor into the conferences anymore. Texas will be to blame for the collapse of what was an outstanding conference. Guess it won’t be long until Texas joins the Pac 10 or ACC.
    Oklahoma and A&M need to move now before other schools jump on an offer from the SEC.

  8. frug says: Aug 16, 2011 1:39 AM

    @ cappa662

    As much as a I hate to say this, if the Big XII hadn’t given UT all that power the conference would have folded a long time ago (the LHN is the only thing that kept the PAC-16 from coming to fruition).

  9. 1990tiger says: Aug 16, 2011 2:16 AM

    It is just a matter of time before they rename the two Big 12 divisions: The Legends and The Leavers….

  10. florida727 says: Aug 16, 2011 7:46 AM

    Beebe needs to understand the Golden Rule: he who has the gold, makes the rules. And right now, love it or hate it, the SEC (and by extension, Slive) has the gold. Beebe is pissing into the wind. You think Slive cares about Beebe or the rest of the Big 12? Slive cares about the SEC, and by extension, what a school like A&M could mean to the SEC.

    BTW, not that it’s THE major factor by any means, but ‘burntorange’ did make a good point, sort of: geography does play a role in this, albeit maybe just a very small role. It’s not like you’re ever going to see UCLA in the SEC or ACC. And you’ll likely never see Clemson in the Pac-whatever. Travel costs and regional TV coverage, and fan base support, all play a role in the attractiveness of a team to a conference. Again, it might be a small role, but it is a consideration. How many UCLA fans are you going see at Bryant-Denny or The Swamp? Conversely, Texas is somewhat centrally located and can easily blend into either a west coast- or east coast-based conference.

  11. bmac34 says: Aug 16, 2011 11:21 AM

    I didn’t know puppets could talk?!?!?!

    Deloss Dodds must be Jim Hensen’s love child.

  12. lemmam says: Aug 16, 2011 11:40 AM

    burntorangehorn – if you believe the post you added here (2nd post on this article) then you are a total fool. how can there be a conference when texas has the longhorn network? the big 10 has the big 10 network and all schools benefit equally from the big 10 network. texas got greedy with their lhn and now look at what is going to happen to the big XII

  13. burntorangehorn says: Aug 16, 2011 1:14 PM

    You people are deluded if you don’t think it’s a natural disadvantage to be the one conference that can be raided by any or all of the power conferences when there’s an expansion in the works. No, that does not conflict with the reality that this is all about money, but the fact is that when the Pac-X wanted to expand WITH THE OBJECTIVE OF MORE MONEY, it went after the Big 12 teams, not the SEC teams. If the SEC wants to expand, it will almost certainly draw from the Big 12, not from the Pac-12 or Big Ten. That is due to geography. That is a fact.

    I did not say that this is all about geography, and it shows a severe reading comprehension problem. I just said that there are many issues bigger than this supposed power ceded to UT, and that geography is an example of one.

    @lemmam–the existance of a Longhorn Network in no way precludes a conference network. Please explain why UT should let other schools ride its coattails when it has a better opportunity from ESPN. If Texas A&M wants their own network, they’re welcome to start one. They just need to convince ESPN to get one. Same with Kansas State, Iowa State, Oklahoma State, Missouri, etc. I’ll hold my breath while you explain to me why those teams don’t have their own offers from ESPN to start networks.

  14. matthewinwisconsin says: Aug 16, 2011 2:54 PM

    Why are the other 10 teams in the Big 12 (and shrinking) NOT doing what Texas tells them to do!?! The Longhorns are looking out for their best interest! You ‘all just don’t appreciate what UT is doing for you!

  15. corvusrex96 says: Aug 16, 2011 4:30 PM

    @ burntorangehorn
    “Please explain why UT should let other schools ride its coattails when it has a better opportunity from ESPN.”

    I’ll explain it to you, it is because you are part of a conference. It is also called sharing . Everyone benefits and the whole group benefits
    That is why you hear chants of SEC, SEC but will never hear BIG XII, BIG XII

    Conferences and Leagues that share equally are stable and profitable for all involved (i.e the SEC, BIG 10 , NFL) ones that do not share revenue equally (MLB, Big 12) tend to have major issues with competitvness and are less stable.

    If you don’t want schools riding your coattails then you go independant. Texas , Notre Dame and BYU can then all play each other.

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