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Texas Tech president: Pac-12 invite likely not coming

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It feels bizarre to think that somehow Texas A&M could be a catalyst for a shift in the college football landscape, but here we are, anxiously awaiting word from College Station about their affiliation intentions — one way or the other.

If the Aggies left for the SEC, one of the fallout questions would be the future of the Big 12. Would it disband? Or, would it expand? The official word from Big 12 officials from over the weekend was that the nine other members valued A&M’s presence, but would stick together if the Aggies departed.

Replacing A&M in such a situation would be difficult, but commissioner Dan Beebe has already outlined preliminary discussions if a need for a replacement came to fruition.

Shedding some light on the situation was Texas Tech president Guy Bailey, who appeared on KJTV 950 AM in Lubbock.

“If A&M leaves, we’re going to use this opportunity to build one of the strongest conferences in the United States,” Bailey said. “What we’ll do, we’re going to be very aggressive in recruiting schools and I don’t know how many we’re eventually going to recruit, we’ll need to work with FOX and our other media partners in doing this.

“In the past we’ve sort of been reactive, I think the nine remaining members of the Big 12 have decided that the reactive behavior – it’s time to get rid of that. It’s time to be proactive and I think you’ll see a very proactive approach… I think you ought to think of conference realignment with the Big 12 being one of the cornerstones.”

As far as finding a replacement for the Aggies — and Bailey really makes it sound like he expects A&M to leave — Houston, BYU, Air Force and Louisville have all been mentioned as potential candidates, with BYU gaining the most momentum as of late.

Notre Dame has also been thrown around the rumor mill. For what it’s worth, Notre Dame AD Jack Swarbrick and Texas AD DeLoss Dodds are very close.

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe has stated previously that a 10-member Big 12 is the ideal situation moving forward, but the terms “aggressive” and “proactive” would certainly indicate that more options are possibly on the table. At this point, though — and we’ve stated it before — there just aren’t a lot of great candidates from which to choose.

Apparently, the same could be said for Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott.

Bailey insists that another invite from Scott doesn’t appear on the horizon, largely due to a package deal that would feature Texas, and the Longhorn Network, as cornerstones. Scott already denied Texas a chance at their own network once, and most other Big 12 members are attached to the Longhorns by the hip.

Or, since it’s Texas, big ol’ belt buckle.

“Here’s the deal, what the Pac-12 offered last year, and I think they would be open to this year, is a package deal,” Bailey said. “You’d have to have four schools and Texas is the cornerstone to that. Remember, the issue last year came down to the Longhorn Network. The University of Texas wanted its own network for tertiary rights and the Pac-12 doesn’t allow that. We can cut that out right there. I don’t foresee that happening.”

(Big thanks to the Dallas Morning News for the quotes)

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23 Responses to “Texas Tech president: Pac-12 invite likely not coming”
  1. dickroy says: Aug 16, 2011 12:40 PM

    Wow!!! Houston, Louisville, BYU, and Air Force, now that would make a real power conference.
    Are you kidding me?

  2. paulbrownsrevenge says: Aug 16, 2011 12:52 PM

    You wanna know why????? BECAUSE YOUR’E TEXAS TECH!!

  3. paulbrownsrevenge says: Aug 16, 2011 12:55 PM

    Sweet jesus. 3 weeks can’t come fast enough.

  4. burntorangehorn says: Aug 16, 2011 1:00 PM

    Queue the “Texas is arrogant” crowd, who’ll undoubtedly explain that Texas is selfish for not giving up its network so that other Texas schools have a shot at landing in a new conference.

  5. gorilladunk says: Aug 16, 2011 1:05 PM

    I don’t think Texas is arrogant, they’re just underachievers.

  6. centexhorn says: Aug 16, 2011 1:19 PM

    And why should it? Really. Think about it.

    I think it’s time the NCAA wakes up and abolishes the money-grubbing, cannibalistic football cartels known as conferences.

    Every team should have regional teams they play where all areas overlap, to create a kind of web of school relationships.

    For instance, Texas Tech would play New Mexico, but Texas A&M wouldn’t, because they’re farther away. New Mexico would play Arizona, but Texas wouldn’t, because they’re farther away. Ohio State would play Penn State, but Minnesota wouldn’t, because they’re farther away. Like that.

    It would take establishing a new division system, where lesser teams compete in a lower division. Right now you have schools in states that share a border that aren’t playing each other and it’s not right. Texas should play Arkansas and LSU, simply because they’re closer than other schools.

    The idea of conferences is rather stupid, when you think about it. The NCAA shouldn’t let money and politics affect who plays who. A&M should play LSU and Ole Miss, but do they really need to be playing South Carolina? I don’t think so. They’re too far away. Maybe as a non-regional opponent, which would be kind of like and out-of-conference opponent. Each team would have a number of open spots on their schedule for non-regional opponents.

    In other words, collegiate athletics should be organized like professional sports leagues, where all the teams compete under the same banner, but are organized into many small divisions. There’s one governing body, so individual teams don’t control what division they’re in or what teams they play. It’s all organized by the one governing body. This would make a playoff system easy, neat, and commonsensical.

    The Big 12, SEC, Pac-12, Big Ten, ACC, MWC, and Big East should all come together to form one organization, with one name and one governing body. The NCAA should create new, lower divisions for all the schools not in those conferences. It should work like high school sports here in Texas work. You have 5A (which is really huge schools), 4A (which is big schools, but not schools as big as 5A schools), 3A, 2A, and 1A.

    And there are championships for each level. This would be a way of making it so that you don’t create just a 2-tier system.

    Maybe this would only be for football. Maybe basketball would need a completely different arrangement, since it’s a different sport. I don’t know.

  7. drummerhoff says: Aug 16, 2011 1:21 PM

    Texas wins a national championship once every forty years. Maybe they’ll have more success in this watered down Big12.

  8. dickroy says: Aug 16, 2011 1:26 PM

    @ centexhorn

    I agree with you on this, but surely you know that big money and corporations control the whole world, even politics. Greed is the dominationg force that decides everything and all things.

  9. TxGrown says: Aug 16, 2011 1:30 PM

    gorilladunk says: Aug 16, 2011 1:05 PM

    I don’t think Texas is arrogant, they’re just underachievers.

    ____________________________________________
    Apparently son you do not know what you’re talking about. As a lifetime UT fan (45 years) and former employee…they’re arrogant.

  10. blitz4848 says: Aug 16, 2011 1:41 PM

    “If A&M leaves, we’re going to use this opportunity to build one of the strongest conferences in the United States”
    “I think you ought to think of conference realignment with the Big 12 being one of the cornerstones.”
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I want some of the Koolaid this guy is drinking!!!

    The Big 12 better do their inviting on the QT so NOT to be embarrassed by the number of refusals that are sure to follow the Big 12 invitations……..

  11. sportsdrenched says: Aug 16, 2011 2:07 PM

    Apparently son you do not know what you’re talking about. As a lifetime UT fan (45 years) and former employee…they’re arrogant.
    __________________

    Which is why it’s fun to watch them lose.

  12. chmba says: Aug 16, 2011 2:12 PM

    First, delusional best describes Texas Tech; no the PaC-12 won’t want them.
    Second, ND is not going to join the Big 12 because they have nothing to gain in it and their alumni would revolt. If they join anything it would be the Big 10 because of academics and the research affiliations not to mention the Big 10 network.
    Third, watch Fox try to get out of the Big 12 deal as soon as they realize it will draw a Texas only audience other than Texas-Oklahoma!

  13. bender4700 says: Aug 16, 2011 2:25 PM

    @Chmba

    Why would the Pac-12 NOT want to add Texas to their list of state markets?

    Really?

    That’s like saying: “I don’t want those millions of viewers”.

    The Pac-12 DOES want Texas Tech. They don’t challenge USC or other Pac-12 powers on the field that much, but they bring the Texas market, and recent success.

    The Pac-12, Big XII, SEC, ACC, Big East, and Big Ten ALL want a team(s) that bring a NEW large market and will fit their current mold.

    To suggest that the Pac-12 doesn’t want Texas Tech is just narrow minded. I’m shocked ANYONE is suggesting they are unwanted at this point.

    Name 5 better (legit) candidates:

    Boise?
    BYU (not happening)
    OU? yeah, that’s kind of the point. OU, OSU, Texas Tech, and Kansas. That’s been the rumor for weeks.

    Folks, this is a simple concept. $$. TV sets in homes equal CASH! Texas has a BOAT LOAD of TV sets. So getting any major Texas team is a solid move for any conference.

  14. bender4700 says: Aug 16, 2011 2:26 PM

    @chmba

    I agree fully with point 2.

    Point 3 to a point, I fully plan to watch Texas v OU every year. But one game doesn’t mean jack. So it very well could happen.

  15. gorilladunk says: Aug 16, 2011 3:26 PM

    @ TxGrown…Firstly, don’t call me son and secondly, you are absolutely correct. UT does possess the most arrogant fan base in the nation. So much bluster, so little accomplishment. I was trying to be civil toward the nutless bull nation.

  16. ajarkoski says: Aug 16, 2011 3:37 PM

    @bender

    Exactly, the Pac-12 would love the Texas market and if it doesn’t include Texas, so be it. Take Txas Tech. Both Texas A&M and Texas Tech have so much more to offer away from the hasbeen big12 and Texas. Take Oklahoma, OSU and one of the others (Mizzou/Kansas,etc) and that would be a nice arrangement. A&M and Tech can both kick Texas in the a$$ by taking muc of their clout away.

  17. bender4700 says: Aug 16, 2011 3:40 PM

    Well the thing is, no one in power is talking about intangible stuff like clout and all that stuff.

    It’s all dollars.

    Pac-12 would add a lot of advertising dollars by adding the millions of Texas residents to their foot print.

    Big Ten was thrilled to add the footprint that Nebraska brought with them. Had they added Louisville, or someone like Ball State or even Iowa state, they wouldn’t have added NEW TV sets to their footprint.

    Note that all theses talks include conferences getting a school in a NEW market.

    THAT’S what matters folks.

  18. sportsinhd says: Aug 16, 2011 4:00 PM

    Texas Tech along with perhaps Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, and a school to be named later (I have to think that Kansas and K-State are a package deal) would work just fine in the PAC-12, and would be desirable. You always want to open up new markets, and those are about the only schools open to the PAC-12 that would make sense geographically.

    The SEC and Big Ten have all sorts of options if they want to expand again. They both can poach teams from the Big East, Big 12, and ACC. The PAC-12 is sort of stuck, and schools in Texas, Oklahoma, and Kansas (possibly BYU, but I see them staying indy) are the only ones that make sense for them.

    It’s my hope that the Big 12 just dies along with the Big East and we are left with five power conferences (MWC, PAC-12, ACC, Big Ten, and SEC). The more college football consolidates, the closer we get to a real playoff.

  19. bender4700 says: Aug 16, 2011 4:12 PM

    Agree with sportsinhd except MWC? Come on… ;)

  20. paulbrownsrevenge says: Aug 16, 2011 5:28 PM

    The regular season is the playoff. Thats what makes college football so exciting every week. Add a playoff, and the season becomes less viable.

    Now i do believe a plus 2 system that lets the top 4 BCS teams play it out would work fine. I’m telling you folks, you dont want a 16 team playoff.

    For a good read on college playoffs, check out Phil Steele’s article in his annual magazine. He makes some outstanding points that the media doesn’t mention.

  21. paulbrownsrevenge says: Aug 16, 2011 5:33 PM

    i think the Big10, SEC, ACC, pac12, should all remain in tact. BigXII needs to get a united network, add SMU and TCU.

    Big east could add, UCF, Memphis(basketball school), East Carolina, and another school to get to 12 teams.

    At that point you could take CUSA, WAC, and MTN west and form two more 12 team conferences. Thats all that needs done. If A&M wants out, let them walk and take Houston.

  22. sportsinhd says: Aug 16, 2011 6:10 PM

    bender . . . .
    The MWC would certainly be the little brother in the “Five Super Conferences Scenario,” but at this point it would be impossible to leave Boise out of the equation. Besides, the MWC would end up with all the cast offs from the Big 12 unwanted by the PAC-12, Big Ten, and Sec (schools like Iowa State, possibly Kansas State). They have to go somewhere, and it would prevent the anti-trust investigations.

  23. matthewinwisconsin says: Aug 16, 2011 6:41 PM

    Dan Beebe is a Longhorn tool and nothing more. Texas IS the Big 12 as far as little ol’ Dan is concerned. He has been their agent since the day he was hired. The second best thing about the Big 12 disbanding is that this saboteur will lose his job. But he’ll find a manure encrusted cowboy boot at UT to lick.

    Sure miss the Big Eight, but the Big 10 will be great!

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