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Ex-Texas governor: A&M doesn’t ‘have to act childlike and run off somewhere’


While Texas A&M’s new chancellor is publicly all-in for a move by his new school from the Big 12 to the SEC, Oklahoma State mega-booster T. Boone Pickens said earlier in the week that it would be a big mistake for the Aggies to move out of their current conference digs.

A former Texas governor has subsequently one-upped Pickens’ mistake rhetoric while also adding a political twist to the situation.

Labeling a potential move to the SEC a “permanent mistake”, Baylor grad Mark White called on current governor and 2012 presidential candidate Rick Perry — an A&M grad and college football rumor purveyor, incidentally — and the state legislature to enter into what he described as “cool reflection”.  And apparently, in Texas politics, part of the process of reflecting during a cooling-off period involves threatening to cut state funding from the school if it were to leave.

“What I would urge the governor to do is ask A&M to sit down with their counterparts in Texas and work out their differences,” White told the Fort Worth Star-Telegram. “They don’t have to act childlike and run off somewhere… A&M has a responsibility to taxpayers in this state. If you can show me where the state of Texas wins on this deal, I’d like to see it. I thought we’d put this to bed for 10 or 15 years [last summer].”

Thought they had put Big 12 stability to bed for a decade or more?  Really?  While White’s naïveté is cute and precocious and all, the Big 12 was kept together last year by nothing more than Elmer’s glue, masking tape and Texas failing to secure the rights from the Pac-10 to create their own television network.

Oddly enough, it’s that same network that, at least publicly, is driving A&M toward the SEC.

After Colorado and Nebraska fled for the Pac-10-now-12 and Big Ten, respectively, and Texas and three other schools openly flirted with bolting to join what would’ve become the Pac-16, the 10 remaining schools in the Big 12 pledged their decade-long love to the conference.  The only problem with that?  It was a nonbinding agreement; no documents or contracts were signed to express that loyalty.

Commissioner Dan Beebe said last year, shortly before naming the Easter Bunny as his deputy commissioner, that “trust between presidents and chancellors in this league is high enough to continue on” without a signed contract.


To further buttress his argument that A&M should stay in the Big 12, White cited a study by the Perryman Group — whose president received his bachelor’s degree from Baylor and PhD from Rice — which found that A&M’s departure without the conference finding a replacement school would, the Star-Telegram writes, create a loss of 3,050 jobs and $217.2 million in output (gross product) annually in Texas.

Now, I’m no economist, put wouldn’t all of those high school football players buying tickets to fly to SEC schools on recruiting trips somewhat mitigate those dire financial numbers, and actual increase jobs in the airline/travel industry?  And that’s without even mentioning SEC coaches coming to Texas and staying for lengthy periods of time plowing the state’s fertile recruiting grounds, which would no doubt bolster the hotel industry.

Additionally, using numbers that don’t include another school to replace A&M in the conference appears to be nothing more than an attempt to stir up taxpayers.  The Big 12 membership has been very open about the fact that, if A&M leaves, they will aggressively pursue another school to fill that void.

And, since White and the Perryman Group and others are so concerned about the damage to the State of Texas’ bottom line a departure would create, we’ll just go ahead and assume they’ll aggressively push for the inclusion of Houston, SMU or Rice as the Big 12’s 10th member.  Certainly adding another Texas school into the Big 12 mix would help mitigate the loss of jobs and “gross product” created by A&M’s departure, wouldn’t it?

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51 Responses to “Ex-Texas governor: A&M doesn’t ‘have to act childlike and run off somewhere’”
  1. southernpatriots says: Aug 18, 2011 10:24 AM

    JT: Great report and writing and a great commentary last paragraph! Why isn’t the obvious, obvious to some of these politicians and others?

    They do not come down on Texas or the
    Big 10/12 for their greed and inequitable distribution of monies. A & M needs to be out of the small brained Big 10/12 and ignore the small brained politicians which do not understand the facts or are ignoring them.

  2. saints97 says: Aug 18, 2011 10:34 AM

    These people are all hypocrites. None of these people said a word when UT and their minions bolted away from UH, TCU, SMU, and Rice for the Big 12. No one called UT childish when they were ready to bolt to the Pac 10. What do those things have in common?

    When UT does something detrimental to the other schools in the state, everything is fine and dandy. When anyone else does it, they are childish and selfish. I think it is pretty obvious why A&M wants to get the hell away from UT and all of their garbage. And now UT has a small little public relations department in Bristol that will run their smear campaign as soon the Baylor smear campaign runs its course.

    Baylor’s pathetic lapdog routine with UT is embarrassing. I can’t believe that their alumni doesn’t put a stop to this.

  3. TxGrown says: Aug 18, 2011 10:39 AM

    No the Aggies don’t have to runoff. Texas don’t have to be greedy either. Share the wealth! For cryin’ out loud look at the SEC,Big 10 they share and are more relevant the the big 12.

  4. TxGrown says: Aug 18, 2011 10:40 AM

    I meant to say.
    …they share and are more relevant than the the big 12.

  5. WingT says: Aug 18, 2011 10:47 AM

    Can someone explain exactly why A&M has their panties in a wad? I get that the LHN and high school football games being televised got them stirred up but what else has them upset?

  6. southernpatriots says: Aug 18, 2011 10:49 AM

    We LOVE Texas grilled steaks (tri-tips, etc.) and Texas bbq. We hope we meet some great Texas tailgaters at the first LSU v. A & M conference game scheduled at College Station and we can trade some Cajun Jambalaya, Crawfish Etoufee, Shrimp balls, blackened red fish, and other Louisiana dishes for some of the Texas cuisine, which we love so much!

    We are looking forward to having the great academic and athletic school of Texas A & M as full partners and in friendly competition with LSU in the SEC!

  7. WingT says: Aug 18, 2011 10:57 AM

    “Ex-Texas governor: A&M doesn’t ‘have to act childlike and run off somewhere’

    There’s nothing wrong with trying to better yourself and move up is there gov?

  8. southernpatriots says: Aug 18, 2011 11:01 AM

    Wing T: Maybe you were unable follow this story closely as we and some other posters have. The fact is that UT received $15 mil more in Big 10/12 dispersements that A & M and other Big 10/12 member universities.

    Then UT negotiated a private deal to make even more and A & M finally had enough with the nequity and unfairness to the association. A & M beat Texas & Oklahoma last year and do so regularly. They have won any national championships in many sports over the past years and are swet up to continue to do so with the best track coach in the world today (our former national champ coach at LSU)

    If anyone has their panties in a wad, it is Texas with their greed and the Big 10/12 with their inequities. The SEC shares equally among all members as we are sure you know.

  9. deucez2 says: Aug 18, 2011 11:11 AM


    It’s obvious by bringing up national championships in other sports you are an aggy. Yes, aTm is competitive in olympic sports (track, equestrian jumping, women’s sports, etc) but we all know those aren’t revenue drivers. Football is the money sport and largely your school hasn’t been competitive on a national scale in a decade. In major men’s sports you have no bowl wins since 2001, no major bowl appearances since 1998, 1 CWS appearance since 1999, and no sweet 16 appearance in men’s basketball since 1980. This is about envy and ego any way you slice it. How can you blame Texas and Oklahoma for cashing in on their success in men’s sports? You can’t, they’ve earned it. Take your little brother mentality to the SEC so you can find another school to hate. There are about 5 in the SEC West that are waiting in line to make you their doorstep.

  10. chmba says: Aug 18, 2011 11:15 AM

    First, Baylor should revoke White’s degree – he is an idiot.

    Second, Baylor is only in the Big 12 because another former Texas governor (kay bailey “whatshername”) forced Texas et al to let them in.

    Third, TCU is not and will not be in Big 12 because of Baylor’s childish feud with them dating back decades.

  11. deucez2 says: Aug 18, 2011 11:31 AM

    I think you’re looking for the name Kay Bailey Hutchinson. And she was never governor. Maybe Ann Richards?

  12. WingT says: Aug 18, 2011 11:33 AM

    I didn’t realize that the Big 12 dispersed $$ unevenly!! That is just wrong on many fronts. I bet Vandy is glad that the SEC doesn’t disperse $ based on On Field accomplishment.

    It appears to me that the Longhorns are the ones that are acting childlike.

    You know, A&M will move to the SEC and be treated without prejudice and they will probably do better in recruiting in the state of Texas and they will have a more than equal shot at winning the SEC West one day soon.

    The SEC has incredible parity in the league. How else do you explain how LSU, then Florida then Alabama and finally Auburn not only win the SEC but a NC in a very short time span.

    Also, the parity is what drives the teams to higher levels of play. A conference without strong across the board competition is weak.

  13. blitz4848 says: Aug 18, 2011 11:39 AM

    This might have had a chance of working out if Texas’ minions would have had any smarts!!!!

    Once UT got the big gravy train from ESP (that’s what they use to express their slanted opinions) N, they should have come back to the conference and initiated a plan that would share ALL conference $$$ equally! This would have given the conference a chance to survive but now the sheep are leaving the flock and Texas soon will have noone to hunker down to/for them!!!!!

    Before you slap me with that “you are a Aggie fan crap” — I am not. I am a fan of common sense and that sure doesn’t play well with UT………..

  14. WingT says: Aug 18, 2011 11:41 AM

    Texas is about to reap what they have sowed

  15. chmba says: Aug 18, 2011 11:47 AM

    deucez2 says:
    Aug 18, 2011 11:31 AM
    I think you’re looking for the name Kay Bailey Hutchinson. And she was never governor. Maybe Ann Richards?

    You are right…I had wrong governor. I am native of Texas but haven’t lived there since I was small. As LSU alum, I would look forward to long term rivalry with A&M.

  16. burntorangehorn says: Aug 18, 2011 11:56 AM

    saints97 says:
    Aug 18, 2011 10:34 AM
    These people are all hypocrites. None of these people said a word when UT and their minions bolted away from UH, TCU, SMU, and Rice for the Big 12. No one called UT childish when they were ready to bolt to the Pac 10. What do those things have in common?
    You might want to brush up on your history of the SWC and annexation of UT, atm, Baylor, and Tech by the Big 8. Particularly the parts about when these people said words–lots of them–to keep UT around so they could let Baylor, Tech, and atm ride their coattails.

  17. burntorangehorn says: Aug 18, 2011 11:58 AM

    Wing T–you mean they’re about to reap millions and millions of dollars. Don’t act like all this is actually going to hurt Texas in any appreciable manner, because it’s not.

  18. gorilladunk says: Aug 18, 2011 12:11 PM

    @southernpatriots….I ahve no quarrel with you as I read a large number of your posts and you seem like a reasonable person. However, let’s get some facts straight. A&M DOES NOT beat OU regularly. If winning three times every 11 years is regularly, I guess we have differences on the definition. A&M will end up much like Arkansas in the SEC. No conference championships, no REAL rivalries. Facts are, people in positions of real authority and influence at the U of A were hoping the Big 12 would go after Arkansas last year. The Hogs are ready and willing to go if the right offer comes along.

  19. WingT says: Aug 18, 2011 12:30 PM

    I guess time will tell huh?

    But I don’t care if it hurts Texas or not. What is obvious is that it is going to greatly benefit A&M.

    That makes it a Win for A&M and at best a draw for Texas

  20. blitz4848 says: Aug 18, 2011 12:31 PM


    Give me some of that Kool Aid—PA lease!!!!!

    Who are you kidding–the Hog athletic dept would take the “death penalty” rather than go back to “Texas 12″…….. Get real!!!!

  21. weswelkerspornstash says: Aug 18, 2011 12:42 PM


    Arkansas won’t leave the SEC.You have to be crazy. Those are the same reasons why A&M is trying to leave.

    Good article JT

  22. thefiesty1 says: Aug 18, 2011 12:46 PM

    They always have their panties in a wad. They are AGGIES. That’s their problem. They have always been the ugly stepsister and always will be. No matter whether they stay or go, they’ll always be the ugly stepsister to someone, with their panties always in a wad.

  23. southernpatriots says: Aug 18, 2011 12:53 PM

    gorilladunk: Thank you for your kind remarks. We are not one person, though. We are a family of educators, a doctor, and life long SEC fans, with most LSU fans and one former Georgia player, all now retired and doing the best we can to help others. We are all in a large close extended family.

    With all due respect…we have family members and life long friends who live in Arkansas near the university. They maintain close ties to the university. The Razorbacks would be very surprised as your revelation that they would bolt the SEC. They have no intention, for blood or for money.

    Not too many teams beat the Mighty Oklahoma team(except in the BCS National Championship games, of course). For A & M to win as consistently as they have shows a great deal of their determination and excellence over the past years.

    It may be true that if Oklahoma played Alabama or LSU or another excellent SEC program, the SEC may have beat Oklahoma a few more games in the same time period, but 3 wins is a good job, better than most.

    With the greater competition and recruiting available to A & M when they are part of the SEC, we would expect they will add to the winning percentage v. both Texas and Oklahoma.

  24. burntorangehorn says: Aug 18, 2011 1:01 PM

    WingT says:
    Aug 18, 2011 12:30 PM
    I guess time will tell huh?

    But I don’t care if it hurts Texas or not. What is obvious is that it is going to greatly benefit A&M.

    That makes it a Win for A&M and at best a draw for Texas
    How do you figure? atm goes to a conference where they’ll have less power, and if the conference actually IS better, they’ll go from being a perennial third-to-fifth-place-in-the-division team in the Big 12 South to a perennial bottom-dweller in the SEC West. The only potential advantage they might get would be slightly more media money, but after paying up to $30M in exit penalties and/or legal remedies, and considering that the SEC’s contract will be the same money spread over more teams until renegotiation happens, it’ll be the better part of a decade before atm even breaks even financially on this move.

    So, less money in the short term, and worse divisional finishes (assuming the SEC is better, as atm people seem to believe). How’s that good for the aggies? Is it because the SEC will probably be more tolerant of the crotch-grabbing corps and overalls-wearing male cheerleaders?

  25. frug says: Aug 18, 2011 1:16 PM

    I wonder if Mr. White got this upset when Ann Richards and Bob Bullock forced the Big XII to take private Baylor instead take payer funded Houston…

  26. florida727 says: Aug 18, 2011 1:38 PM

    “southernpatriots”, you need to hold off on posting until at least 7p ET please. The mere mention of “Cajun Jambalaya, Crawfish Etoufee, Shrimp balls, blackened red fish, and other Louisiana dishes” is really messing with me right now. Haven’t been to New Orleans in awhile (used to travel there for business periodically) and I’m having Jambalaya withdrawal symptoms. Knock it off will ya’? :)

  27. southernpatriots says: Aug 18, 2011 2:17 PM

    florida727: We apologize. One of our family members competed v. some of the renowned Cajun chefs some years ago at an exposition of food at LSU’s Pete Maravich Assembly Center and won!

    He loves to cook Cajun and ethnic foods and helped feed the many volunteers after Katrina. We all love to assist him in any way, especially at the tailgating events! The Cotton Bowl and then the LSU Spring game this year were the best tailgating we all have ever seen and he wants to improve it with a smoker to slow smoke the meats, like he learned from the Kansas City, Memphis in May, and North Carolina champs share with him yearly. Once again, florida727, we apologize.

  28. WingT says: Aug 18, 2011 2:23 PM

    Please explain what you mean you say that A&M will have ” less power”.

    They will move to a conference where they don’t have to worry about a “power struggle”…don’t you get it?

    And to your other point regarding the amount of money that A&M will be having to payout to leave the conference – that remains to be seen how much it will be . And finally don’t you think that the Aggies have weighed all of these factors in their effort to reach this conclusion and determined it to be the right move?

    What’s the chances A&M booster come forward and fund the move?

  29. gorilladunk says: Aug 18, 2011 2:41 PM

    All those who think there is “no chance” that Arkansas would leave the SEC….don’t be so sure. I know, for a fact, that there are members of the athletic dept and university leadership that would entertain offers and discussions. Arkansas, after 20 years in the SEC, has developed no “real” rivalries and the thinking among many there is that returning to a conference with OU, OSU, UT and Missouri would lend itself to establishing those rivalries. Many at UA feel similarly to those at A&M. Arkansas is the new kid at school that has never been able to find footing in the SEC like they had hoped. Leaving the SWC (Big 12)has also created recruiting problems in Texas. The idea is not as far fetched as many of you might think. I’m not saying it will happen, just saying there are more than you think on the inside at UA that would be willing to take a look.

  30. WingT says: Aug 18, 2011 2:41 PM

    please, please send me a recipe for red beans and rice…the rice part I understand, lol….

  31. bigdawg24 says: Aug 18, 2011 2:44 PM

    No, the rest of the Big 12 only exists as teams for Texas to play.

    UT does not want a level playing field. They like to surround themselves with teams they can have an upper-hand against.

  32. florida727 says: Aug 18, 2011 3:10 PM

    “southernpatriots”, no apology necessary. JUST SEND SAMPLES!!!!

  33. southernpatriots says: Aug 18, 2011 3:10 PM

    Wing T: Glad to….for the best rice for red beans and rice use half chicken broth and half water, a little salt and about 1/2 cup more liquid than the normal recipe calls for.

    The redbeans need to be (this will sound like an oxymoron)..fresh dried beans. Some beans have been in warehouses for months and stores for similar times, so try to get “fresh” dried kidney beans or similar red beans. The big part is to get the dried beans hydrated again.

    This can be done by washing, sorting (there can be bits of straw, trash, etc. or if you are in India, eliminate the rocks in this step), and then soaking overnight in fresh cool water. We hasten the process by skipping the overnight soaking and putting the beans into a pressure cooker and cook with water to cover plus 4 inches. Prepare on 3/4 high until steaming for 20 minutes. Do not put any salt or any other seasoning at this point because the skins of the beans will tend to toughen if you do.

    Run cold water on the outside of the pressure cooker to cool rapidly, open and rinse the beans. This step of rinsing the beans is very important if you want less gas production from the beans. An enzyme in the skin of the beans is broken down under heat and most of it can be washed away. This enzyme causes gas as a result of eating beans.

    While the beans were pressure cooking, mince 1 to 2 large Vidalia or Texas Sweet onions , one orange or red bell pepper, and a stick of celery, and a clove or two of fresh garlic. Saute the vegetables some in a couple table spoons of cooking oil or butter. Season the vegetables with Cajun/Creole seasoning or seasoned salt. When the beans are washed and rinsed add the beans and sauteed vegetables, and 2 Tbs. Cajun Seasoning or seasoned salt to slow cooker on high. Add chicken broth and water to cover the beans plus 6 inches. Let it be for a few hours. We usually check it about 4 hours later to add more broth and/or water. Take a potato masher and mash some of the beans to thicken. Continue cooking until beans are sufficiently soft to your taste. You can add additional seasoning to beans as they are nearing completion, if needed.

    While the beans are slow cooking and the rice is boiling and steaming, take a loaf of French bread and cut into slices and butter, broil on top rack watching carefully. Good sides are smoked sausage (we like either Cajun or Polska Kielbasa), a small garden salad and of course the famous Southern Sweetened Iced Tea (or as we always prepare: Winnie’s World Famous Iced Tea)

    The extra steps will increase the flavor and reduce the gas, which is well worth it.

  34. WingT says: Aug 18, 2011 3:27 PM

    thank you southernpats…i will give this a try this weekend

  35. burntorangehorn says: Aug 18, 2011 3:32 PM

    While I’m a little more accepting of the concept of socialism than most, I find it very surprising that the overwhelming majority of people in this thread (and others on similar topics) support socialism in college football through equal sharing of media revenue. I wonder, though, whether their convictions are strong enough that they think the SEC, Big 12, Pac-12, Big Ten, and ACC should share their revenue equally with the Big East, Mountain West, etc.

  36. WingT says: Aug 18, 2011 3:59 PM

    I do admire your tenacious defense against your beloved , do no wrong, longhorns but dude, you’re grasping for straws with your latest reasoning.

  37. southernpatriots says: Aug 18, 2011 4:21 PM

    Wing T: One real good way to prepare Southern Sweet Iced Tea (Southern Iced Tea is always sweet so that is redundant)…you can use a Mr. Tea or similar and always add the sweetener (we use Louisiana Pure Ribbon Cane Sugar or Stevia we grow) while the tea is hot so all the sugar dissolves and gives a deeper flavor and smoother drink.

    Best on your preparation of the red beans and sides.

    We hope to be smoking meat this weekend and making New Orleans World’s Best All Natural Pecan Pralines for the teachers and school volunters.

  38. pushingiron says: Aug 18, 2011 4:28 PM

    Some of these comments such as “ugly stepsister” and the inability to actually capitialize A&M, or correctly spell “Aggie” by some of the people that post here show that the Texas fans seem to be the one with envy. I don’t want to hear that Texas is superior, they are not. Texas has a great school, as does A&M, but do you posters really think that Texas has dominated A&M? Lets look at the record since the schollarships were reduced in ’72 it is one game in favor of Texas. I expect that with the top ten ranked Ags playing the turkey day game at Kyle this year that it will be even. Unlike many of you, I don’t feel the need to degenerate your team to make my team look good. My brother-in-law is a Texas grad., and there is nothing but a good hearted rivalry between us. From reading the bitterness in some of these posts, I think that many of you hate A&M more than you love Texas. Show some class. It is all about what is the best for the individual school. I don’t have a problem with Texas getting all they can, but I also will not fault Texas A&M for doing the same. Again, show some class people.

  39. fordman84 says: Aug 18, 2011 4:44 PM

    I guess A&M should just sit back and wait for Texas and OU to decide once again that THEY want out of the Big 12, and THEN start looking for a new conference.

    Only the TU jackwads think A&M is in the wrong. Texas is the one that started all of this, and then when they got everything they wanted (and others wouldn’t give them what they want) they decided to stay. Now they feel they can point fingers and lay blame on others? I don’t think so. A&M needs to do what is best for itself, and that means not sitting around and waiting for TU and OU to once again try to leave the big 12 and leave A&M holding the bag with TTU and Baylor.

  40. saints97 says: Aug 18, 2011 5:27 PM

    Pushingiron, you nailed it. I couldn’t agree with you more. I have my undergrad degree from A&M and my law degree from UT, and I just don’t see why there has to be so much hate. It is clear to any reasonable person that the relationship with UT is not a healthy one for A&M, so they are moving on.

    I really don’t see what the problem is. You can still be good rivals and be in different conferences, and of all teams, UT should know this – unless you are too young to remember that OU was not always in their conference.

  41. southernpatriots says: Aug 18, 2011 5:54 PM

    saints97 and pushingiron: You wrote truth and truth will prevail. If either of you have access to the sportshosts, commentators, and writers in Houston, San Antonio, Dallas-Ft. Worth, and other larger market areas around Texas please inform the nut cases that if any cessation to the rivalry between UT and UTAMU happens it is due to the instagation of UT who may not wish to play any team out of conference which may beat them. Over the years they seem to have had that idea when scheduling out of conference teams.

  42. beveaux says: Aug 18, 2011 8:27 PM

    Texas’ future out of conference opponents include Mississippi (SEC), BYU, Arkansas (SEC), Notre Dame, California, Maryland and USC.

    Naturally, Longhorns feel that none of these teams will be able to beat us, but your statement above does not hold water.

    The aggys and OU and Texas all receive the same amount of money from the conference for TV revenues. Texas added a source of revenue by creating their own network, as was announced before last summer.

    Texas receives $15 million per year from ESPN. $4 million goes to Texas’ marketing partner. Over $5 has been donated back to the academic side of the school to fund jobs for professors.

    Nobody in the country takes in more revenue than Texas. Nobody in the country sells more logo’d merchandise than Texas.

    And, it is my understanding that the SEC does not have a restriction on any SEC school opening their own negotiations for their own network. Can’t find out if they will have to “share” that revenue.

  43. parkcityute says: Aug 18, 2011 8:34 PM

    southernpatriots: We have read your postings with great interest and enlightenment, but today we now know you know what you write and are great cooks/chefs.

    I don’t mean to offend by calling you cooks.

    I thought I knew how to cook red beans and rice and have read recipes by Emeril, Justin, Paul, Bobby, and all the great chefs and cooks. I learned more and learned how much I did not know just by reading your great recipes. I am getting the ingredients tomorrow and I will also make these this weekend.

    My grocer does not carry French bread, but does carry Italian bread. Will that do?

  44. texasntech says: Aug 18, 2011 8:44 PM

    The Texas football program apparently generates a lot more money than the A&M program. How does that make Texas “greedy”?

    Texas has gotten their butt kicked quite a few times by Oklahoma, A&M, and Texas Tech since joining the Big 12.

    Maybe their fan base is stronger and maybe more people like to buy stuff with the Longhorn logo. If there is something else at play here, I’d like one of these “experts” to tell me.

    Just when the Aggies are seeming to put it all together, the want to bolt. That doesn’t make sense. It takes two to make a good rivalry and always has…in every sp0rt.

  45. southernpatriots says: Aug 18, 2011 8:44 PM

    parkcityute and all: Thank you for your kindness. Best of success in making your red beans and rice with side dishes this weekend. Southern Iced Tea goes wonderfully with it all.

    If you can only get Italian bread and you want something more like French bread, just wrap the bread well in heavy duty aluminum foil, place into a baking sheet and insert into an oven preheated to 400 F. Puncture the top of the foil with a knife about 5 times across the top. Bake at 400 F for about 15 minutes and the crust will become crisper ala French bread and no longer be soft like Italian bread. It can now be sliced and treated as French bread.

  46. texasntech says: Aug 18, 2011 8:49 PM

    and thanks to “southernpatriots” for the recipes.

    Win or lose, this season is going to be interesting.

  47. southernpatriots says: Aug 19, 2011 4:33 AM

    texasntech: You are welcome. Enjoy! Bon Appetit!

    Many friends we have do not pay attention to college football. We recommended they watch some LSU games along with other college football games on tv. They did. They are now hooked. They came back to us and told us that it was great entertainment and fun. Like you, we think this season will be likewise, if not more so.

    Just a few more weeks, thank God!

  48. alligatorsnapper says: Aug 19, 2011 9:38 AM

    I join texasntech in thanking “southernpatriots” for the recipes. I was shocked to see the recipes posted on CFT for all of us to enjoy. Once I got over my shock, I printed them and showed them to my granny, who said that is a better method than she used for the past more than 60 years and she thought she knew best how to make red beans and rice. She said SOUTHERNPATRIOTS’ version is much healthier as well and may have more flavor. (She uses fatback to season).

  49. dg0122 says: Aug 19, 2011 12:22 PM

    @texasntech…Texas “has gotten their butts kicked” by Tech? When was this exactly?
    3 losses in the B12 years were by 7, 4, and 6 points. maybe you were referring to the 4 times Texas has beaten tt by 30+, or the other 4 times by 10+…I know it can be confusing

  50. texizz says: Aug 22, 2011 9:46 PM

    LSU wants ATM in the SEC because they know they will beat the snot out of them. So will most other SEC teams! ATM has been embarrassing the BIG 12 in post season Bowl games for years. Don’t believe me? Check their Bowl records!

  51. southernpatriots says: Aug 22, 2011 10:28 PM

    texizz: Who beat Mighty Texas and the Invincible Oklahoma teams last year and beat their butts? ………waiting………baaaamp! times up! Texas A & M of course! Who has played UT straight up winning one less game since 1972?…..waiting…….baaaamp! times up! Texas A & M of course! Who now has the best track coach in the world, having started a yearly habit of winning the national championship which he left off at LSU by doing the same there?…..waiting…….baaaamp! times up! Texas A & M of course!

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