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SMU hikes up its skirt, openly flirts with Big 12


While there have been no public developments in well over a week, all signs continue to point to Texas A&M officially announcing their intentions in the not-too-distant future to move to the SEC.  And, if that indeed comes to fruition as most expect, the Big 12 won’t have to look very far for a replacement.

Officials from SMU sat down with the editorial board of the Dallas Morning News Wednesday and openly and very emphatically discussed their desire to be in a BcS conference in general and the Big 12 specifically.

For obvious geographical reasons, the Big 12 would make the most sense for the Mustangs, a fact that school officials duly noted to the Morning News.  Stature-wise, and even as the conference appears on the verge of imploding at any moment, the Big 12 would — no offense — trump their current league, Conference USA. while at the same time technically putting themselves in position for an automatic BcS berth.

Athletic director Steve Orsini told the News that SMU has privately reached out to the Big 12 regarding possible membership if A&M flees for the SEC.  Orsini’s boss also made it publicly clear during the meeting yesterday that a move to a BcS conference is very much on his institution’s radar.

“We are pushing for it,” SMU president R. Gerald Turner said. “We want the city to know we’re pushing for it. We need as much help as possible, even from non-SMU alums. We believe it’s good for Dallas.”

The officials laid out several reasons for SMU’s inclusion in the Big 12 or another BcS conference — the Pac-12? — including a resurgent football program under head coach June Jones; historical ties to one of the predecessors to the Big 12, the SWC; and what the paper describes as leaps in academic rankings and research status.

Additionally, Orsini and Turner noted that there are plans already drawn up that could turn Ford Stadium, with a current capacity of 32,000, into a 40,000-seat, on-campus home venue.  One major drawback, even with additional seating capacity, is the Mustangs couldn’t sell out the stadium in its current configuration; last season, SMU averaged just 23,000 fans per game.

The huge television market the school sits in, Dallas-Ft. Worth, that would be a major draw to other conferences could almost become a hindrance as well as the Big 12 already has a sizable blanket over that area, meaning the addition of SMU would simply be treading ground and walking in the same geographic footprint.

Regardless of the pros and cons, SMU appears to be hellbent on going all in on a move up in conference stature, with the public airing of their desires no doubt pleasing the ears of their current conference home.

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13 Responses to “SMU hikes up its skirt, openly flirts with Big 12”
  1. weswelkerspornstash says: Aug 25, 2011 9:42 AM

    SMU and A&M to the SEC. The SEC west needs their own version of Vandy.That will open the market that is Dallas/ Ft. Worth..

  2. soflatrojan says: Aug 25, 2011 10:20 AM


    J Taylor always writes the letters BcS like this as in bull ****. I agree with Taylor it is BS.

  3. thefiesty1 says: Aug 25, 2011 10:34 AM

    SMU doesn’t have a big enough stadium to play in the BIG leagues. Jerry World would echo have empty. TCU and BYU, Houston to get back to 12 after A&M turns tail and runs. Dream on, Ponies!

  4. Sportsdrenched says: Aug 25, 2011 10:58 AM

    Not a good move for the Big 12, but I admire SMU’s “we can hang” attitude.

    oh and BcS, BcS, Bc effing S!

  5. lakesidegator says: Aug 25, 2011 10:59 AM

    Hey feisty.
    have + have = hole
    = YOU

  6. wethog66 says: Aug 25, 2011 11:30 AM


    TCU is moving to the Big East next year. If you are going to try and talk shit, please try to be accurate in your shit talkin.

  7. bender4700 says: Aug 25, 2011 11:39 AM

    Good call, mix SMU with Tech and Texas again. Good move.


    Who does have a big enough stadium? There are 3 or 4 teams in the Big XII with just about 50K seat stadiums, and several HARDLY fill em. I’ve heard this noise about seating capacity before. And no one seems to think to look at the other members and other options to replace A&M.

    7 of the current 10 are below 71.

    Texas: 100K
    A&M: 86K
    OU: 82K
    Mizz: 71K
    OSU: 60K
    Tech: 60K
    ISU: 55K
    KSU: 51K
    Baylor: 50K
    KU: 50K

    SMU: 32k *likely to join
    Houston: 32K *likely to join
    Boise: 33K *not likely but BcS could influence
    Louisville: 55K *not likely, geographically makes no sense.
    BYU: 65K *HA IND is too good for them.
    TCU: 50K *Wants NOTHING to do with Texas
    Arkansas: 78K *Rumored, but very unlikely.
    South Florida: 66K *No chance

    To put it in perspective:

    Nebraska: 81K legally

    Seating capacity is about 5th or 6th on the list. Nebraska wasn’t invited to the Big Ten for the seating capacity, although the fact they sell out every game where the other Big XII members do not, that is a factor but in reality: market, “national clout”, match-up appeal, and tradition are the main reasons Nebraska was so welcomed to the Big Ten.

    Seating capacity is that stat the average fan like to bicker about, but the people making these decisions have numbers like Nielsen ratings and market numbers in front of them. The conferences could give a crap about seating, they care about TV DOLLARS!!

  8. bender4700 says: Aug 25, 2011 11:40 AM

    Not sure why you talk about “Jerry World”, they don’t play there. Another thing you got wrong apparently.

  9. bender4700 says: Aug 25, 2011 11:43 AM

    Also, do conferences even make money of ticket sales? Usually the AD makes the money from Ticket sales, which is why 8 game to 9 game schedule has many AD’s in the Big Ten saying fans need to be prepared for more lower level teams to be scheduled to secure the lost home game. The conference (the ones who would make the decision) make money from TV.

    Texas vs SMU on the day after thanksgiving is strong enough of a draw over Louisville vs Texas.

    SMU has the history, fame from the DP, and the DALLAS market. Ya know, that HUGE market the Big XII would love to make officially apart of their footprint.

  10. boomerdt says: Aug 25, 2011 12:12 PM

    Dear SMU,

    I know your history, and I appreciate you, however… until you can show some staying power – no.

    Dear TCU,

    We’re retards, come to the big 12-2.

    Dear BYU,

    Indie sucks, love big 12-2

    Dear SEC,

    When’s this deal happening? Hurry up slow pokes.

    Dear current big 12-2 schools,

    We love you dearly, now sign on the dotted line that you’ll never leave… you too texas/espn.

    Dear Jerry Jones,

    We’re trying to get back to 12 teams so the championship game can be back in your palace….. no we don’t have a timeline for replacement, I mean expansion.

    Love you all (sorta),

  11. gorilladunk says: Aug 25, 2011 1:57 PM

    @bender4700….the Dallas market doesn’t give a rat’s ass about SMU. They play in a high school stadium and can’t fill it to save their souls. The Big12 is already in conrol of the Dallas market, as it is a HUGE base for UT, OU and Tech alums. If the Big 12 invites SMU, that will be the signal to OU, OklaSt and Tech to get the hell out! The only history that anyone remebers about SMU is that they were MAJOR players in what led to the downfall of the southwest conference. SMU needs to be in a conference with Rice, UTEP, Tulsa, Sam Houston State, Texas State, Highland Park and Southlake Carroll high schools. They might be competitive in a league like that.

  12. pushingiron says: Aug 25, 2011 5:11 PM

    @feisty1- “turn tail and run”…not exactly what I would say about a school who had the most Medal Of Honor winners outside of the military academies. A&M is doing what is best for A&M. Sounds like you are just a sore loser.

  13. brian327 says: Aug 25, 2011 7:09 PM

    It doesn’t really matter that much to me what conference A&M or SMU end up in, I just want to say this:




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