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OU to jump to Pac-12 Sooner rather than later?

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Welcome to Game Day 2011 y’all!

On the same day a new season is officially upon us, and just a day after Texas A&M made its biggest jump yet in the latest game of conference leapfrog, the demise of the Big 12-ish is — again — reportedly upon us.

In a piece he penned for the Austin American-Statesman titled “One more move and Big 12 is over”, venerable columnist Kirk Bohls puts the onus for the survival of the conferences squarely on the shoulders of the Oklahoma Sooners. And presumably, based on those he’s spoken to, the Norman school is ready to put its current conference out of its misery and head west.

Should Oklahoma act upon its earnest desires and seek an invitation to join the Pacific-12 Conference — something I’m fully expecting to happen within days, if not hours — that decision could well be the killing blow to the Big 12 while also providing Texas the political cover to follow suit and ask for admission as well.

“Oklahoma owns all the cards,” a Big 12 source added.

But wait.  There’s more says television infomercial guy.  Bohls continues painting a landscape-shifting picture of Texas privately hoping that their Red River rivals make the first in a series of moves — thus ensuring that “the Longhorns’ hands would be politically clean” — in what would result in, “probably before the calendar turns to October… [y]our new Pac-16 members: Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State.”

That’s right.  On the first official day of the 2011 season, one of the most respected writers in Big 12 country if not all of college football is not only very publicly seeing the end of the conference — presumably from a source or sources he’s developed from within the conference itself — he’s also saying that all of this will unfold in less than a month’s time.

As if to add a tanker full of fuel to the fire of speculation, Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott issued a statement to Suzanne Halliburton of the American-Statesman that does not dismiss Bohls’ scenario.  At all.

“While I cannot predict if and when this (Pac-12 expansion) might make sense for us, we will listen to and evaluate any scenario that would benefit our member institutions, our student-athletes and our fans,” Scott trolled told the paper.

And what of The Longhorn Network, the television elephant in the room that prevented the Pac-16 from being formed last year and played a prominent role in the Aggies departing this year? “The Longhorn Network gets folded into the Pac-16 as a downsized regional network, joining the six regional networks that already exist within the conference,” Bohls writes.

Of course, if Bohls’ apocalyptic scenario were to come to fruition — and obviously that’s a very, very big if right now — it would be a monumental shift for both the future of the game and for the 2011 itself.  Instead of both eyes being focused squarely on the playing field for the foreseeable future, at least one would be trained squarely on the offices of the SEC and the Big Ten.  Make no mistake; if the Pac-12 makes the first real leap into the super-conference stratosphere, the two power conferences will respond in kind — very forcefully, very emphatically.

So, again, welcome to Game Day 2011 y’all!

Or, as Bohls’ put it…

“In the end, these Big 12 schools should have gone their separate ways last summer and avoided all this unnecessary drama and hand-wringing.”

Amen, brutha.  Amen.

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52 Responses to “OU to jump to Pac-12 Sooner rather than later?”
  1. dickroy says: Sep 1, 2011 9:28 AM

    Wonder what happens to Iowa State? I think the Big Ten should take them and Missouri.

  2. polegojim says: Sep 1, 2011 9:37 AM

    Amazing that with all that money and glitz, the Southwest and Big 12 conferences just couldn’t stabilize and perform from their own backyards.
    What are the polarizing and isolating influences?

    Who will want Texas? Big 10 or SEC don’t need their money. Maybe ACC or Big East? Tough to have been waiving your own flag all this time, and not be seriously courted by the big boys.

    Will Colorado and OU recruit well from the West Coast? I’m not seeing it, but it will be interesting.

  3. polegojim says: Sep 1, 2011 9:38 AM

    @dickroy – that would be great and makes sense.

  4. gatorb8 says: Sep 1, 2011 9:41 AM

    Wow. You can bet Mike Slive won’t stand idly by and be content with only adding A&M and one other school. And if OU, OSU, TT and Texas all go to the Pac-12 then Slive will have to attempt to pilfer a quality school like FSU, VT, etc from the ACC.

  5. blitz4848 says: Sep 1, 2011 9:48 AM

    I still say the SEC will add:

    1. Texas A&M
    2. Missouri both to the SEC West

    1. FSU
    2A Va Tech or
    2B Ga Tech both to the SEC East

    The SEC will go to 4 team divisions and have a semi final round prior to the SEC Championship
    game.

  6. dickroy says: Sep 1, 2011 9:57 AM

    @polegojim

    Thanks. And I agree with you. I don’t think OU or Colorado will recruit very well out there either.
    It sure looks like we are headed for 4 or 5 major conferences with about 14 or 16 teams. Maybe this will lead to a playoff system.

  7. lottsmissingfinger says: Sep 1, 2011 9:59 AM

    From a mindset and social outlook perspective, A&M definitely fits more into the SEC (Mississippi, Alabama, South Carolina) than UT does.

    UT definitely fits better with the PAC 12 and OU and UT are going to stay attached conference-wise unless UT goes independent. If that happens, how much do people want to bet that the Texas-OU game still happens every year and the UT Thanksgiving game drops A&M for someone like Notre Dame.

  8. polegojim says: Sep 1, 2011 10:17 AM

    @lotts… agreed – UT to independent is the most logical.

    They have their network and most other programs are tired of dealing with them. UT really doesn’t want to hassle with anyone else. Obvously, they prefer to play alone in their sandbox and other programs have grown increasing more than happy to accommodate them.

  9. stoopwitzer says: Sep 1, 2011 10:27 AM

    @ dickroy & polegojim

    just food for thought…

    Oklahoma has recruited fairly well in California for several years now. The peach being Roy Williams several years ago but then last years trio of freshman who all played and are set to start as sophomores this year Kenny Stills, Brennan Clay and Tony Jefferson. This is without conference affiliation of any kind. Being in the PAC12 will only help.

    Oklahoma recruits nationally as shown by this years class being quite small due to scholarship numbers but still having 3 signees from Florida, 1 from Maryland and a very possible signee coming out of Washington.

  10. dickroy says: Sep 1, 2011 10:39 AM

    @stoopwitzer

    Good info. Sounds like you better informed than I am on this.

  11. stoopwitzer says: Sep 1, 2011 10:45 AM

    being a homer occasionally has its benefits… ;-)

  12. geogibso says: Sep 1, 2011 10:45 AM

    I blame this all on the Mayan people and their silly prophecies…

  13. mhalt99 says: Sep 1, 2011 11:27 AM

    I think the Big East will play a pretty substantial role here. It may be a pig with lipstick right now but why join a super conference and become…..well no offense but become Penn State (we are…Penn State…notice us please…forget OU and Mich and…) when you could go and pretty much rule the Big East. Look what happened to Fla State when Miami and Va Tech moved in. Also kind of like being A&M in the horns shadow.

    Of course Texas could go it alone too, but I would have to imagine that some of the support, at least a tiny bit of support will be siphoned off as SMU & TCU start to and continue to field competitive teams…..ie there is only one Notre Dame and it only works for them because they have fans coast to coast not super concentrated in the largest continental state.

    Just a thought. No offense to Penn State fans….don’t know many teams that could stand out in UM’s and OSU’s shadow.

  14. florida727 says: Sep 1, 2011 11:48 AM

    “blitz”, I agree with everything you posted except I’m not so sure about 4 divisions and a four-team playoff to determine the SEC championship. If you have 4 divisions, that means only 3 in-division games each. Assuming they stay with 8 (if not 9) conference games, then you’re going outside your own division for FIVE more games. You can, literally, lose every in-division game and, at least theoretically, still win the division.

    More logical would be 2 divisions, 6 in-division games, 2 cross-division games, one title game. OR… play all seven in-division opponents, 2 cross-division games, and drop one of your non-conference games either early or late in the season (most likely early, to preserve ‘rivalry’ games against non-conference foes).

  15. phelbin says: Sep 1, 2011 11:53 AM

    I’ve been saying this for the last couple weeks. A&M’s departure was public, but ya just knew there were conversations going on behind the scenes. Larry Scott had UT and OU on speed dial, “we still want you guys, and now we have a huge TV deal! Come make a bunch of money and recruit in California.”

    @polegojim Colorado already does recruit well out west. 23 of their players this year are from California.

  16. mkrip says: Sep 1, 2011 12:19 PM

    As a Missouri fan, this would be devastating. It was really bad to lose our conference foe Nebraska who we shared a 100 years of history with but to lose Oklahoma also is just crushing. As an old time Big 8 fan, this is truly depressing.

    I really hope that Mizzou lands in the SEC or the Big 10 if Oklahoma bolts. That way we can have some big time, big name opponents visit our stadium on a yearly basis.

  17. neovenator250 says: Sep 1, 2011 12:45 PM

    Its a shame that Oklahoma doesn’t come to its senses and join us here in the SEC. Adding Oklahoma and Texas A&M in the West and Virginia Tech and North Carolina in the East would be perfect.

  18. tehHuskerOracle says: Sep 1, 2011 12:52 PM

    taylor, you’re obviously a tx Homer because NO ONE in their RIGHT MIND would EVER label bohls “one of the most respected writers in Big 12 country if not all of college football” !! He’s a texa$$ homer who’ll say ANYTHING to try and make his whorns come out smellin’ like the yellow rose…

    Texas has blown the Big XII up and everyone knows it. For anyone to think that just because OU might be the next Uni. to get smart would therefore leave ut w/ no blood on its hands is delusional! At this point, I think the PAC-? (or anyone else for that matter) takes ut ONLY on their terms w/ serious pre-conditions. Period.

  19. thefiesty1 says: Sep 1, 2011 12:58 PM

    There you go, just as I’ve said, Four 16 team conferences and a mid-division level for all the also rans that don’t have the budgets, facilities and fan base to become competitive (on any regular basis). OU can still play an occasional gimme (Tulsa) and Texas can play a Rice or Baylor, but both could fit with the PAC er 16.

    I didn’t really think that would happen until the recent severing at the hip between Texas and A&M.

    Four super conferences and the a playoff and eliminate about 20 of the minor bowls.

  20. mplshusker says: Sep 1, 2011 1:15 PM

    Looks like OU may find a new home. Good for them, I guess.

    To the other former Big8 schools who voted the shortwhorn’s way time and time again, let me just say in all sincerity……..

    Enjoy the Missouri Valley Conference.

  21. aggiegirl00 says: Sep 1, 2011 1:21 PM

    Now don’t pounce right away just by my user name. I totally agree that OU holds the cards here to the Big 12 and am absolutely suprised they haven’t tried to jump ship as well (at least more publicly). The Longhorn network has everyone pissed off and rightly so they are one of them. I think OU would be great in the SEC, but they are a package with deal with Ok State. They recruit all over, so I think Pac 12, Big 10, they will be fine.

    All the cards are falling into place for UT (yes, not all aggies refer to them as t.u.) to be independant. And all they have to do is sit back and let the chips fall where they may. Not a bad spot to be in.

    Let the good times roll….

  22. gorilladunk says: Sep 1, 2011 1:22 PM

    @geogibso…I laughed out loud. Very nice.
    @neovenator25….OU will go nowhere without OSU. The Okla state legislature won’t allow it.

    One thing being overlooked by the “dubious” Mr. Bohls…he states that LHN will be folded into the regional networks the PAC 12 already has. Really? The Pac 12 networks are Fox affiliates and LHN is run by ESPN. You think that ESPN is going to allow their millions of dollars and promotion become a part of a FOX network “regional” package. I highly doubt it. Once again, LHN will become a major thorn in this process. Texas needs to go solo and they can do what they really want : continue to overestimate their relevance on a yearly basis in the grand scheme of college football.

    While I know that much has been going on behind the scenes at OU and OSU the past few weeks, It will still be sad to see them head out west. I guess if Tech and UT go along, it will be more palatable.

  23. bender4700 says: Sep 1, 2011 1:45 PM

    Pac-12 gets:

    OU, Ok State, Texas, and Tech

    Big Ten gets:

    Missouri, Kansas, Rutgers, and PITT

    SEC gets:

    Texas A&M, FSU, Clemson, and Virginia Tech

    ACC gets:

    Syracuse, Louisville, and UConn

    Big East gets:

    TCU, East Carolina, and Central Florida

    MWC gets:

    K-State, Iowa State, and Baylor. and a BCS Auto bid.

    It’s rather simple. The MWC replaces the Big XII, and the big boys of the Big XII fill out the other confereces ranks.

    Hey Ben, I think we may be looking at the Conference Armageddon.

  24. cosmoman11 says: Sep 1, 2011 2:08 PM

    OU and OSU are better fits for the Big 10 than the Pac-?.

  25. jkb0162 says: Sep 1, 2011 2:15 PM

    OU won’t leave the Big 12 without assurances that one or two Texas teams go with him to any new conference, and Bob Stoops said as much yesterday. Stoops understands that if he’s cut off from competing with Texas schools his recruiting will dry up, since most Sooners players come from Texas. It’s more likely that OU will use the threat of leaving to get a better TV deal, and more revenue.

  26. tehHuskerOracle says: Sep 1, 2011 2:20 PM

    cosmoman, I agree with you about OU being a better fit for the B1G, and I wouldn’t be surprised if Jim Delany is in some serious discussions w a few schools right now. The problem is OSU… I don’t think the B1G would take them. The only reason Nebraska received the B1G invite is because Jo Pa gave his blessing – but at the same time he made it clear that the next team, if there was to be a next team, should be out East, and a natural rival for Penn State, i.e. Pittsburgh, or someone similiar. One other thing, with this new scenario of OU leaving and if the Big 12-2-1 does really implode, we may actually see Notre Dame finally say to themselves “Now’s the time”, and join the only football conference they would ever be right for – the B1G.

  27. jimwood47 says: Sep 1, 2011 2:45 PM

    I love speculation, but that is what it is – speculation. I will watch what unfolds with great interest. If the Big 12 can entice Louisville and/or Pitt, it will expand their geographical area of interest. That would then allow them to bring in SMU or Houston to even out the North and South. Whatever happens, I don’t think the conference will give up without a fight.
    I do think that it is simply a matter of time until we have 4 super conferences.

  28. bender4700 says: Sep 1, 2011 2:46 PM

    Didn’t realize Bob Stoops was the AD too.

    Not his call.

    OU doesn’t make the jump if Texsa isn’t going with them. That’s just a given.

  29. rayfinn says: Sep 1, 2011 2:52 PM

    I think ND is the elephant in the room. While they now have BCS access, the superconferences could pose problems. ND wants its TV rights and that presents a conflict with Big 10 Network. Texas and BYU have their own network and it appears that BYU is going to get an invite.

    This from Salt Lake Tribune:

    However, The Salt Lake Tribune has learned that BYU officials have had discussions with Big 12 officials within the past week regarding the school’s interest in joining the conference, and what conditions and assurances it would need to make the jump exactly a year after announcing they were breaking away from the Mountain West Conference.

    It is unclear whether the talks have included an invitation from the Big 12.

    A BYU source said the talks have included the school’s desire to utilize its own television network, BYUtv, in a BCS automatic-qualifying conference much as it plans to this year. The talks have also included ESPN officials and even some input from Notre Dame representatives, whom BYU athletic director Tom Holmoe has referred to as “partners” in the past year.

    On the day it declared its independence last year, BYU announced it had agreed to an eight-year deal with ESPN and a six-game series with Notre Dame, also an independent.

  30. latrobe21 says: Sep 1, 2011 2:57 PM

    The Big 10 has invited Missouri and Notre Dame to the Legends Division and Maryland and Rutgers to the Leaders Division. If all come, the Big Ten picked up the NYC, DC and St. Louis / Kansas City Markets.

  31. tehHuskerOracle says: Sep 1, 2011 3:05 PM

    latrobe21, Interesting if true… and your source is…???

  32. latrobe21 says: Sep 1, 2011 3:21 PM

    @ Husker,

    I was just having a vision . . . no evidence.

  33. latrobe21 says: Sep 1, 2011 3:50 PM

    I think , as conferences go to 16 members, that ND will have a much more difficult time scheduling quality national opponents. This assumes, as the Big 10 has already indicated it will do by 2017, that the super conferences require more than the current 8 conference games (which they should, with so many members). If there are 9 or 10 conference games in the future, and the big boys still want to pad their coffers with a couple of cupcakes, it won’t leave much opportunity for ND. For this reason, ND needs to very seriously consider a conference at this juncture, i.e., if there is a mad dash to 16 teams.

  34. rayfinn says: Sep 1, 2011 3:53 PM

    Addison Texas is about 8 miles from Big 12 HQ. Jet left there this am. Destination, Provo, UT.

    Just to stir the conversations.

    http://flightaware.com/live/flight/LXJ327

  35. squackduckhawk says: Sep 1, 2011 3:55 PM

    @gorilladunk

    As far as I know and can remember reading, the Pac’s Network is wholly owned by the Pac 12 and is not a Fox subsidiary. This is seperate from the TV package deal that was signed in May with ESPN and Fox. I could definitely be wrong about this though.

    http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/6809599/pac-12-launch-national-regional-networks

  36. skf727 says: Sep 1, 2011 3:57 PM

    As an OU fan first and a Big 12 fan second, my dream scenario is as follows:

    OU and OK State join the Pac ?? Super Conference

    and either

    Texas is an independent who has a ridiculously tough time scheduling quality opposition because every one else ends up in expanded conferences

    or

    Texas is reduced to Boise State/TCU status where it runs the table every year and has to beg to get into the BCS series because its conference sucks.

    A boy can dream can’t he?

  37. cosmoman11 says: Sep 1, 2011 4:08 PM

    HuskerOracle, I think that OU and OSU are a package deal. I also think that T Boone would be happy to buy OSU into any conference they desire. I would also bring Mizzou and Pitt into the Big 10 making them a perfect 16 team conference.

  38. Deb says: Sep 1, 2011 4:42 PM

    Blast it, blitz, stop putting Mizzou in the SEC! What is it with you and Missouri? NO!

    Mizzou should go to the Big 10. I love my alma mater, but I’ve been a Tide girl since conception. Do not want these two teams together in the SEC West. And Missouri should go with Nebraska so it can at least keep one of its longtime rivalries.

  39. a6t7gtoman says: Sep 1, 2011 6:01 PM

    From a 40-year MIZZOU fan – Interesting to hear Arkansas to the Big 12, MIZZOU to the SEC, Oklahomas to the Pac 12. The best chance the Big 12 has to survive is get rid of Texas. Without a fair power and financial split the Big 12 will die a slow death. Maybe we’ll be lucky and implode. Ah, what happened to the days of the Big 8.

    I’d like to hear what went on when the Big 12, ACC. and ??? quietly met for 2-days about two weeks ago.

  40. Scott says: Sep 1, 2011 6:04 PM

    “Who will want Texas? Big 10 or SEC don’t need their money. Maybe ACC or Big East? Tough to have been waiving your own flag all this time, and not be seriously courted by the big boys”

    Puh-lees. I’m not a Texas fan, but EVERYONE wants Texas. The beauty of the Texas program is that they do not need a conference. At least not in the immediate future.

  41. squackduckhawk says: Sep 1, 2011 6:40 PM

    I have mixed feelings about retaining the Pac logo if we were to absorb the TX & OK schools. The side that wants to keep it says as an athletic conference in all sports, we have reigned supreme thus far (settle down, I’m not saying we’re the best in any sport), as far as overall number of championships are concerned. The addition of the above mentioned 4 schools will add (100+) significantly to that claim. The other side of me says that there are only 8 schools that border the Pacific, and the identity of the conference will be irrevocably changed. It’s tradition vs. growth & progress.

  42. Deb says: Sep 1, 2011 7:33 PM

    @Scott …

    Everyone wants Texas? Baby, I want whatever you’re smoking. It’s been a long day.

    Arkansas back to the Big 12? I wouldn’t count on that. They’re doing well with the SEC.

    Texas should have gone out on its own like Notre Dame before Nebraska left. Then the Big 12 could have remained intact and worked out and equitable revenue-sharing plan.

  43. zzboomer says: Sep 2, 2011 12:10 AM

    A few notes to set many fallacies in this thread straight.

    Bohls is not a Tx homer, not even close. I lived in Austin TX for almost 20 years, and he constantly catches crap from the locals for writing negative stuff about the Longhorns, and consistently votes then worse in the polls than just about every national writer. I wouldn’t consider him “one of the most respected writers” either; I’m not sure anyone really likes the guy around Austin, must less anywhere else.

    Why would any college who HAS high revenue want to share it with the others not pulling their own weight? The University of Texas has the HIGHEST revenue of any university in the country, they are numero uno, so why would they want to share that? I can understand universities who can’t pay for their own jerseys wanting to share revenue with the big boys, duh, but I personally don’t believe in socialized sports.

    I find it humorous how so many people come down on them for going out and making a deal for their own network, as if that’s a negative?

    You know what, any college could try to do what they did, but most couldn’t pull it off, so somehow they hate Texas because they could? Wow…I can’t do what you did, so therefore you are bad, and I hate you…

    Texas went to A&M a couple years ago and tried to get the Aggies to go in together and make a TV network together, but the Aggies refused, so Texas went it alone. Now the Aggies are using that is their impetus to leave the conference….go figure…Aggies….

    People have gotten to hate Texas because quite simply, they are winners. consistently near the top in almost every thing they do, and they make (many of) the rules because of that. They bring in more money than any other university, period. I hate it as much as anyone, but money talks in sports. Eyes on the TV and buying products = $ in the sponsors pockets.

    Oh, and you people acting like there aren’t many conferences who would take Texas are simply on crack. They, along with a few other schools, are among the few who could go to any conference they wanted. If you don’t believe that, you are simply don’t know what you’re talking about, or have your blinders on. The thing is, they really don’t NEED to. They are big enough to go it alone, and if that happens, they wanted it to, simple as that. If they want in a conference, they’ll go.

    The dreams about them ending up like TCU, etc. are laughable, and really not worth considering. Again, just wishful thinking by fans of a lesser school.

    How about everyone stop hating #1, and instead work on building yourself up to their level? A true winner would try to come up to the level of their best competition, not work to bring the best down to their level. That’s just weak…

  44. rockgate says: Sep 2, 2011 10:50 AM

    Well said zzboomer….

  45. tehHuskerOracle says: Sep 2, 2011 1:56 PM

    zzzzzzzz… Oh, sorry, I fell asleep during that moronic rant from ol’ zbummer. Man, YOU are the one on crack! I lived in Austin for many years myself and the ONLY type of person who would say that bohls ISN’T a tx homer is someone who’s farther over the edge than he and cedric golden are!! And thinking that everyone in the world wants ut because their athletic dept. makes some cash IS delusional! The FACT of the matter is they’ve now (and for the last year and a half) revealed themselves for what they are: money grubbing, out for themselves only, and screw the rest of you whorns!

    When discussions (which started well after tx’s decussions to join the PAC-?) between the B1G and Nebraska started one of the KEYS was a statement DIRECTLY from BIG 10 Commissioner Delany, who said “Delany told Perlman he was not prepared to make any commitments. But Perlman recalls a statement from Delany he took as very encouraging: “All I can say is from what we see, the culture, the aspirations and the tenor of Nebraska seem to fit what we are looking for in the Big Ten.” [Reference the article here: http://www.omaha.com/article/20100830/BIGRED/708309872/-1#the-big-ten-decision ]
    DO you actually think they would think the same of ut??? I’m LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!! In fact I’m laughing my A$$ off!!! ut die-hards LOVE to think that EVERYONE wants them, while they’ve become the pariah of College Football! The 1,000 bull in the room who’ll try and impose their will on everyone else. Sorry zzz, but the SEC, B1G, and the PAC-? are ALL too well off for that and don’t need the migraines. tx had their chance with the PAC and left ‘em waiting at the alter, Larry Scott hasn’t forgotten that one! And if you think the B1G would take ‘em, PLEASE have them ask for admission… There’s not a snowballs chance in h@!! that they get admitted. Get over yourself man!

  46. tehHuskerOracle says: Sep 2, 2011 2:04 PM

    … oh, and one other thing zz, THERE’S NO I IN TEAM AND THERE’S NO I IN CONFERENCE! ut is ALL ABOUT the I !!! THAT is why they’ll have a VERY VERY hard time getting into one of the big three conferences (B1G, SEC, PAC-?) unless they give up on their attempts to show High School games on the MOTHER of all screw-ups call the LHN!

  47. Deb says: Sep 2, 2011 2:56 PM

    zzboomer …

    I really don’t pay much attention to Texas, but people have been posting stats showing the Aggies and other teams beating them more often than not in recent years. And you’ll have to forgive me if I’m not swayed by the notion that my criticism of their money-hoarding is somehow steeped in jealousy of their winning ways. I’m an Alabama fan. We play in the best conference in the country and have 13 National Championships. Texas has nothing Tide fans would envy.

  48. waynefontes says: Sep 3, 2011 6:56 AM

    zzboomer….

    Some of what you said is true, but as far as “hating #1″….

    Exactly how many national championships in football and basketball have Texas won in the last

    5…10…15…20…25…30 years?

    Same answer to each question – one.

    One.

    Texas is the best in bringing in the revenue but it seems like they’re not getting a lot of bang for their buck.

  49. waynefontes says: Sep 3, 2011 6:59 AM

    Oops. I was wrong. Texas hasn’t won a national championship in the last five years. Those are now the birthright of the SEC ^^

  50. squackduckhawk says: Sep 3, 2011 7:02 PM

    I’m gonna try and be as objective as possible here because there are many compelling arguments listed above. Texas on paper is attractive to absolutely every conference. The amount of money that the University of Texas as an institution wields is astronomical. It’s endowment alone is a billion (pinky on cheek) dollars. That is a lot of money for research as well as new athletic equipment, not to mention advertising. The Big 10 or the SEC would take the Longhorns (who have 49 NCAA championships in all sports) in a heartbeat. It would put either conference within realistic range of competing with the Pac, who would absolutely take Texas as has been demonstrated in the recent past. Larry Scott is a deal maker. Texas, and by extension Oklahoma hold ALL of the cards for the infrastructure of ALL of college athletics. Texas having the most money has them firmly negotiating from a position of strength. The idea of revenue sharing in the Big 12 isn’t appealing because Kansas and Oklahoma are the only other schools who make any money. Oklahoma State has a lot of cumulative championships but not a lot of money. In the SEC, the Big 10, or the Pac 12 the other conference participants contribute significantly more to the financial pie. If there is a shift to super conferences, no member of one is going to want to schedule an independent school because there will be too much at stake within conference play.

  51. tehHuskerOracle says: Sep 4, 2011 4:55 PM

    As I said before, tx is going to have to radically adjust what it thought it was going to get with the LHN. This is a quote from PAC-? Commish Larry Scott at last nights LSU-Oregon game:
    “Anyone who’s a member of our conference is going to be part of our network model.” A very nice way of saying: texas, if you want in, it’s on OUR terms. Otherwise just go ahead and try the independent thing, good luck with that!

  52. paulbrownsrevenge says: Sep 7, 2011 12:05 AM

    what would be hilarious is if the Pac12/16 Invited Oklahoma, OK State, Texas Tech, and …… Boise State…..

    Leave Texas out, let em be independent. They can keep LHN, and no one will tune in….. they go to crap.

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