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Boise State’s win another reason for BCS inclusion

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Here we are again.

If you’re a Boise State Broncos fan, you can skip ahead a few paragraphs, as the following description of your team is already well-known to you. Or you can read it anyway and gloat. Your choice.

For three straight years, Boise State has had to prove to the college football world that their program wasn’t some fly-by-night fluke that benefited from playing in the Western Athletic Conference (and currently the Mountain West). For three straight years, they went out in the first week with their BCS aspirations hinging on defeating a BCS conference opponent. One loss and all of the preseason talk about how the Broncos could be a national championship contender would cease.

But what did Boise do each year?

2009: defeated Oregon 19-8; got sucker punched by LeGarrette Blount.

2010: defeated eventual ACC champion Virginia Tech 33-30 in Washington D.C.

And, tonight, Boise State had to prove once again that they were not some pushover that padded their record with conference wins against weaker opponents. Tonight they went to another “neutral” site in Atlanta against Georgia and 65,000 of their fans.  And, once again, Boise State rose to the challenge with a dominating victory over the Bulldogs, 35-21.

To quote DJ Khaled, “All I do is win………”

So can the BCS elitists finally stop referring to the Broncos “BCS crashers” and “small school darlings” not deserving of a BCS bowl game?  Instead, we should start seeing this team for what they are: a well-coached team with one of the best quarterbacks in college football today, Kellen Moore.

Moore took an offense that lost two of their best wide receivers to the NFL in Titus Young and Austin Pettis and manhandled a defense with “SEC speed”.

So it shouldn’t come as a shock that, once again, Boise State took care of their early-season business.  Furthermore, it wouldn’t surprise me at all if Boise State became the first non-BCS school to play for the national championship this year.

So go ahead and day dream now, Boise State fans, about coach Chris Petersen and the Broncos holding up the Coach’s Trophy, showing the world that you don’t have to be in a “big boy” conference to be the best team in college football.

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  1. jaggedmark says: Sep 4, 2011 1:34 AM

    Now Boise State can go on with the remainder of their schedule, a soft, cushy, no one on there can beat us list of teams.

    That’s why they don’t get a BCS birth.

    1 game against a mediocre Georgia team does not make a BCS worthy team.

  2. sportsinhd says: Sep 4, 2011 1:39 AM

    Sorry jaggedmark, but we already let Big East and ACC schools play in the BCS, and Boise and the Mountain West are far beyond the Big East in terms of talent.

    Boise State does all that’s asked of them year in and year out. Yes, they don’t play in the toughest conference, but if West Virginia were to go undefeated no one would deny them a shot in the National Title Game.

    Hopefully when Oklahoma leaves the Big 12 and the dominoes start falling we’ll just be left with five super conferences and this will no longer be an issue.

  3. bender4700 says: Sep 4, 2011 1:51 AM

    Maybe they should have asked the Pac-12 for a spot?

    Boise plays 1, maybe 2 teams that are good (if you call one of worst SEC teams goooooood) and then cruise the rest of the year.

    Put boise in the Pac-12, they go 6 – 6 or – 7 – 4 more often than 12-0

  4. bender4700 says: Sep 4, 2011 1:54 AM


    The Big East sucks. The MWC sucks. The MAC sucks.

    Being the best average team is not great.

    Boise doesn’t have the depth to last an entire season in the Pac-12, Big Ten, nor the SEC.

    Winning by 2 TDs over a team that was 6-7 the year before and LOST their top playmaker is hardly reason to give them the title.

    and I WHOLE heartedly disagree with your WV reference. If Alabama and Nebraska are undefeated, undefeated WV is playing VTech for the Orange Bowl trophy. WV is the only undefeated team, yes, they go. That whole playing a BCS schedule gives them the nod over MWC Boise.

  5. TxGrown says: Sep 4, 2011 1:56 AM

    Earlier you said what about georgia’s “D”?

  6. bender4700 says: Sep 4, 2011 2:01 AM


    If you are expecting Paul to a. admit he was wrong b. admit he really has no idea what he’s talkin about, or c. make sense you’ll waiting a long time.

    hahah burn

    love ya Paul.

  7. bender4700 says: Sep 4, 2011 2:28 AM

    Boise fan please read:

    Compare your schedule to Alabama, Oklahoma, Nebraska, Michigan, USC, and Florida.

    You will find teams in all the above’s schedule in the “pre season” part of their schedule or the “revenue game” spot.

    Pre Season: Many teams in the BCS schedule games against teams they know they can win, the less talented team is paid, handsomely for their participation.

    Revenue Games: Revenue games are games that a BCS team schedules to ensure they meet their revenue budget. Teams schedule 7 homes games, 3 or 4 conference, and 4 or 5 non conference. This ensures they have ticket sales for home games in 7 games. Most major programs budget around a 7 home game schedule.

    Boise is a team that was, and should be scheduled as a pre-season game. They however have pushed themselves up to a different level.

    Ratings Game: A game a BCS conference team schedules against an opponent that could potentially beat the team, but is evenly matched enough that the home team has a legit shot. Usually these are 2 games series. Example: Florida State v Oklahoma in Norman 2010, Oklahoma v Florida State in Tallahassee 2011. These games are split revenue games. Each team gets 1 home game revenue, and usually expenses are paid for each team.

    Boise is good enough to be a Ratings Game. However, they only schedule 1 ratings game. They have room for 4 non-conference games. They choose to schedule 1 ratings game.

    The BCS: The BCS is the controlling body of the high dollar BCS games and the National Title. The National Title ensures large amounts of merchandise sales, high payout from the BCS, and many other sources of revenue. In addition the program now has a new title to claim, as well as the increase in exposure and bragging rights.

    Boise State is a member of a conference that does not include their conference automatically into the BCS bowls due to the fact that their programs are not major programs in the terms of TV ratings, tradition, power in Div 1 football, and overall desirability. Boise has been apart of the mid majors of college football. In basketball, mid majors are teams who are good enough to compete on an individual game basis but would not be able to keep up over a conference schedule. They do not have the depth, talent, or facilities to sustain a long term run of success in a BCS conference.

    BCS conference fans tend to dislike teams from lower level conferences for implying they deserve the title, when they do not play the same level of competition that BCS conference schools play.

    Baylor is a lower team in the Big XII. They often lose to Big XII opponents. They just beat one of the best MWC teams.

    If you want Boise State to win a National Title, call the Boise State athletic directors office. Ask him to call the Pac-12, Big East, Big XII (they need teams), Big Ten, SEC, or ACC. All of those conferences have automatic BCS game bids, and they include teams that are better and more heavily funded than the MWC or WAC.

    The MWC has Boise State and a bunch of teams that will likely go 7-4 or 6-6 with several loses to BCS conference teams.

    Boise State, I had respect for you years ago, now you are just that annoying little kid that lobs the ball into the hoop from half court and thinks you are suddenly Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan didn’t become the greatest basketball player ever with one dunk. He did it over many years of beating the best the NBA had to offer.

    Boise, you couldn’t even beat Nevada last year. One of your 3 tough games. No one ever has thought “Idaho is a tough team to play”. They play in what BCS conference schools use as a practice facility when its raining.

    You’ll get respect when you earn it. Not when you have an entire spring/summer to prepare for a bad SEC team and walk around afterward like you just won the Super Bowl. Act like ya been there. You wont get there, but at least act like it.

  8. bender4700 says: Sep 4, 2011 2:38 AM

    Boise, one last thought, go 40 years with 9 wins or more, 5 national titles, 3 Heisman winners, and half of the conference titles over that 40 years, then you can talk to me about being elite.

    Until you get out of the shallow end, you will never swim with the big boys. You can’t keep the safety net but be called a great stunt devil. You can’t have the safety on and play Russian Roulette. You can’t win the Power Ball if you don’t buy the ticket.

    Sat, Sept 3

    #19 Georgia
    Fresno State
    Colorado State
    Air Force
    #14 TCU
    San Diego State
    New Mexico

  9. bender4700 says: Sep 4, 2011 2:43 AM

    7 of those 12 were above .500 last year.

    1 wasn’t your BIG WIN Georgia.

    and of the 12, 1 of them plays a BCS conference schedule. The same team that was 6-7 last season.

    yeah, definition of elite right there baby. Playing 7 above .500 teams this year, one of them, which we are claiming as our big win, wasn’t even above .500.

    Yeah, we like to play fooootballlllllllllll. Score the touchdown. yeah.

  10. bender4700 says: Sep 4, 2011 2:45 AM

    I can’t wait for Boise State fan to wake up hung over tomorrow and realize there’s still more of a chance Kellen Moore will be drafted #1 overall in the 2012 NFL draft than they have of winning the BCS National Title.


    Talk about a bummer. “wait, our team really still sucks, we just feel really good because we beat a team that is now 6-8 in the last 14 games? ah crap, and I bought plan tickets to the Title game. Better sell them to my Oklahoman friends.”

  11. bender4700 says: Sep 4, 2011 2:53 AM

    At this point it’s hilarious Boise State fan thinks they have a shot at the title.

    Last year was your ABSOLUTE best chance, and you crapped the bed. You woke up at 5 am, 6 am is the big meeting where you get to claim that new corner office. You woke up early, 5 am, and BAM, crap the bed. Now you gotta clean the sheets, cos that will stain and smell. Then you need to shower, then get dressed. Next thing you know, it’s 7:30 and TCU has taken the office, not the corner one, but your office. You’re back in the cubes. Not to mention Auburn is in the new office, with the hot new secretary.

    Then you look at your desk, and all you see is Kellen Moore’s face. Not good enough for anyone else, and has that look in his eye like you are not sure if he’s thinking or just sort of breathing. You know, like his inner monologue sounds a lot like the old dial up modem. Just beeping like crazy at you.

    Then you get home, realize that you dried your sheets on extra hot, and they shrank. So you have to pull the extra set out, and of course, they are no where to be found. So you just wrap yourself in two comforters.

    It’s a new day though. You’ve beaten proof preseason rankings are COMPLETELY ridiculous, and now you wait those long months, for the call.

    “be here at 6 am sharp. smell nice”

    It’s 5 am, time to go get that office, and WIN THE NATIONAL TITLE! YEAH SON.

    dun nun

    dun nun

    It’s a viscous cycle that ends like a marathon hosted by Jerry Lewis. Lots of arguing, lots of yelling, some complaining about the AC and softness of the stool (not the seat), and a lot of people just sick to all hell of hearing about it. Seriously. I’d rather watch Jerry Lewis complain about the kids with their skate boards than listen to Boise State fan ramble on for 3 hours about a sport they know nothing about, have contributed NOTHING to other than the fiesta bowl we all forgot about, and the sad realization that the world is in fact, not fair. You will get a nice trip to Arizona, but it won’t end with a crystal trophy. Unless Kellen Moore win’s Arizone Idol and they give him a crystal duck.

  12. bender4700 says: Sep 4, 2011 2:54 AM

    Thumbs Down all ya want. But you are all laughing. Except Boise Fan, they have to be PISSED. Mostly cos its like “dammit, hate when he’s right”.

  13. phelbin says: Sep 4, 2011 2:54 AM

    I was looking at the numbers earlier today. If we look at only BCS games over the last 10 years, we get the following winning percentages by conference.

    SEC .684
    Pac-10 .667
    Big East .500
    At Large .500
    Big 12 .471
    Big Ten .429
    ACC .167

    The facts just don’t match the narrative that we usually hear from the media and SEC fans. The SEC is supposed to be absolutely dominant! They’re just not, and the Pac-10 has performed almost as well in the BCS bowls.

    The most fascinating one to me is the at large schools at .500. But if you take Notre Dame’s three losses out of the equation. The MWC/WAC is 5-2. That’s .714! Again, the narrative has it wrong. Their best teams can hold their own against the best teams from the AQ conferences. The numbers don’t lie!

    Boise State isn’t just a one-off school that occasionally gets lucky against the big boys. They are one of the big boys, and they definitely deserve a shot at the title if they go undefeated.

  14. bender4700 says: Sep 4, 2011 2:58 AM

    Someday, when Kellen Moore is at home, in Boise, he’ll turn to his grandson, who has that same “is he awake” look in his eyes, and he’ll ask:

    Grandpa, why didn’t you win the title in college.

    Kellen will look down at little Rutherford and say:

    Commis Rutherford, Commies.

  15. bender4700 says: Sep 4, 2011 2:59 AM


    Take Boise’s record out of “at large” and it drops a good deal.

    Also, you say the SEC isn’t dominate, yet are on top of that list.

    What does BEST mean to you?

  16. bender4700 says: Sep 4, 2011 3:02 AM

    Did you read your own post?

    Seriously. Im baffled. The SEC has out performed EVERYONE, 5 of the last national titles are SEC teams.


    Then you post those numbers and say: “they’re not!”

    Yet how many titles does the Pac-10 have in 10 years?

    You sound as stupid as Kellen Moore looks. Come on bud, that’s ridiculous. You only back up the claim that the SEC is tops and that the “at large” crowd is MID range.

  17. bender4700 says: Sep 4, 2011 3:04 AM

    Someday, Kellen Moore looks back, on his life as a Boise State Bronco, in his modest Boise home. Over looking the mountains, which are beautiful up there by the way, and he looks down at his hand, with the “Fiesta Bowl Champs” words on it, and he realizes, he never had a chance.

    He realizes his chances of being a National Champion were as strong as the chances Kim Kardashian would pass an IQ test.

  18. sportsinhd says: Sep 4, 2011 3:05 AM

    I’m bender, I’m a bending robot, blah blah I hate Boise State. The Broncos play a soft schedule, they couldn’t beat Nevada last year, blah blah blah.

    Boise State is just as deserving as most everyone else who ends up in the BCS year after year. They were as deserving last year as Wisconsin, Stanford, Virginia Tech (who they beat), Ohio State, Arkansas, Connecticut, and Oklahoma. They weren’t in the same class as the undefeated TCU, Auburn, and Oregon (who they beat the year before, just saying).

    Does Boise State perhaps play the system by playing in a weak conference? Absolutely, but the PAC-12/16 could offer them membership if they wanted. Hey, maybe Texas could join the Mountain West and make a lot less than they currently do! How would that be? And then they could take advantage of the system just like Boise State and TCU have the last few years. I’m sure Texas, or maybe Alabama, would go all in for that, oh wait, they wouldn’t because they would lose millions of dollars they are currently getting. What should really embarrass the schools that Boise beats is how they “do more with less” than almost all the AQ schools.

    The whole “Boise doesn’t belong argument” needs to stop. If it’s a real problem the major conferences should offer them a spot, or create a playoff, or adopt the Mark Cuban system that’s been talked about on this site recently. Boise State is playing completely in the rules, and by moving to the Mountain West they attempted to seriously upgrade their schedule, it’s not their fault BYU and Utah left the conference.

  19. bender4700 says: Sep 4, 2011 3:06 AM

    Shall I keep the Boise jokes going or have you people gotten the clue that:

    1. Boise WILL NOT be in the National Title game
    2. Doesn’t play a good enough schedule to warrant it.
    3. Refuses to move into a BCS conference for the fear of being some conferences Baylor, Washington State, Duke, or Vanderbilt. Occasional run of success, but mostly thanking a better team for not scoring again even though they could have.

    Three reasons you just be happy with a BCS bowl game.

  20. bender4700 says: Sep 4, 2011 3:09 AM

    The whole “Boise doesn’t belong argument” needs to stop.

    I agree. Please inform Boise fan of this.

    Oh Im sports… in… hd… I uh.. yeah. Dude come on, you know that Boise doesn’t have the argument to support a title shot with that schedule. 7 teams were above .500 and NOT their BIG WIN!

    How is that acceptable?!

  21. bender4700 says: Sep 4, 2011 3:12 AM

    also Sports, Im just jabbed Boise fan. They always respond with some ridiculous claim that they invented football or that real men wear blue or some stupid crap.

    I don’t need a poster I like ruining it.

    Also, Boise is a good team. I like their coach, they constantly bring in good talent that they develope. They don’t have the depth or facilities to survive in the BCS conferences, but that doesn’t mean over time they wouldn’t.

    I think they’d actually do well in the Pac-12, they’d have a lot of new recruiting grounds, and would be able to build on their winning. Players wanna win, if you can say “hey, we only lose 1 or 2 games, sometimes” that’s strong in a kids head.

    Boise will eventually be scooped into the Power conferences fold, but until then they aren’t going to get into the club that is the Title, regardless of what you or I think.

    and for the record

    Boise v Auburn would have been sick. Holy cow. What a game.

  22. bender4700 says: Sep 4, 2011 3:16 AM

    Basically what Im saying is Im just trying to make you people laugh.

    it’s just sports, its supposed to be fun. Most of the time there are people here getting all pissed off and angry like someone stole their best cow.

    really people, calm down. If I call you a moron:

    1. I dont know you, how could I know if you are or not
    2. Its the INTERNET, its not real
    3. This is entertainment, just learn to laugh. Every insult you send my way makes me laugh a lot. Its funny. I can laugh at funny.
    4. Take life too seriously and you’ll die very angry.

    @sports again
    dude, glad you picked up on the robot reference. You are even cooler. Seriously, I like your posts.

  23. sportsinhd says: Sep 4, 2011 3:18 AM

    Boise will never be invited to a super conference, their only hope is that the Mountain West picks up a few pieces when the Big 12 collapses and becomes the fifth or sixth conference left standing (If the Big 12 dies, it’s only a matter of time before the Big East does, and Iowa State has to go somewhere).

    Have you ever compared the endowment of Boise versus other big time programs?
    Boise State-61 million
    Oklahoma-968 million
    Texas-14.1 billion (the number is system wide so it might be a little less really)
    Michigan-6.56 Billion
    Virginia Tech-590 million
    Miami-618 million

    That’s a big reason why Boise State will never be asked into the PAC-12/16 or whatever. The Mountain West is as good as they can ever hope for. Money-wise Boise State is nearly a glorified community college.

  24. bender4700 says: Sep 4, 2011 3:18 AM

    come on Boise fan. Wake up from your drunken slumber and defend your program. You just beat Georgia in the GEORGIA DOME with their “everyone is named Georgia” jerseys.

    This is the last time a victory will make sports center as the lead till the BCS game against PITT or WV or whatever Big East team wins the conference by default.

  25. sportsinhd says: Sep 4, 2011 3:20 AM

    No criticism on this site should ever be considered personal, it’s all in good fun. College football inspires passionate opinions and those opinions are amplified because the system is broken.

  26. bender4700 says: Sep 4, 2011 3:24 AM

    Well of course Sports.

    That’s the point. Boise State is not anywhere near the tradition, program or sheer fan base that a Washington, or Miami, or Texas, or Notre Dame bring.

    That’s why people are so polarized on this. It’s not a logical argument. No one is debating (seriously) whether Boise is an elite team based on facts.

    It’s ALL emotion.

    Look back through the articles, the arguments. Remember edgy?

    Comments are all emotion based.

    Look at the way you responded. You actually tried saying they “deserve” a shot. Deserve is different than earn.

    No one argues about Boise in a fact based mindset, it’s always an emtional one.

    That’s why they lose though too. They don’t have the facts or stats to convince the number crunchers of the Pac-12 or Big XII, but they have the emotional support to get ESPN to pick up their cause in order to appeal to the fans.

    People love underdogs. Eventually, when people stop considering Boise an underdog, it will fade.

    Look at tonight. When has a team who is 10 spots higher in the rankings, favored despite the game being on the road, and they won and it be a “big deal”?

    If Nebraska beats Wisconsin in Madison on Oct 1st, going into the game are rated 10 and Wis 11, and win by a TD, that will be a big deal. If they go into Penn St, favored, and 10 spots higher in the polls, and win by 2 TDs, it will be “hey did ya see”.

    Boise wins the emotional battle, but unfortunately, they lose the fact and stat battle, which also keeps them out of the title and BCS club.

  27. sportsinhd says: Sep 4, 2011 3:24 AM

    Boise State won’t play the Big East winner, they’ll end up playing Houston.

  28. phelbin says: Sep 4, 2011 3:25 AM

    @ Bender,

    I presented you with facts, and you call me stupid. The truth is sometimes inconvenient, isn’t it.

    SEC dominance is a myth. It’s all in the head of SEC fans and the media. A 68% winning percentage is good, but not dominant. And especially not considering the Pac-10 has a 66% winning percentage over that same 10 year period. Would you agree that the Pac-10 has also been dominant? I didn’t think so.

    This whole attitude, “the SEC is the best because we say it is” is getting really old. Bear Bryant was great in the 70’s so Bama deserves more respect than Boise State now, right? Nope.

  29. bender4700 says: Sep 4, 2011 3:26 AM

    sportsinhd says: Sep 4, 2011 3:20 AM

    No criticism on this site should ever be considered personal, it’s all in good fun. College football inspires passionate opinions and those opinions are amplified because the system is broken.

    well I know you get it, I wasn’t worried about you.

    The thing is, they keep saying “every game matters”:

    Did Nebraska beating Tennessee Chattanooga today matter? Does Green Bay vs New Orleans thursday matter?

    Which one is more of an affect on the post season? Which one has people talkin before and after?

    In College football, 9 MAYBE 10 games matter. The rest are just for fun.

    With a playoff, EVERY game would matter.

    The discussion is fierce because it’s a sport people love, it often has ties to their home or alma mater, and because there’s so many angles. The “broken system” part is just a popular topic.

  30. bender4700 says: Sep 4, 2011 3:29 AM

    phelbin says: Sep 4, 2011 3:25 AM

    Define Dominant.

    The SEC has won the National Title 5 straight years. They have a better winning percentage than any other conference.

    What exactly do you need?

    What more do they have to do to get you to stop trying to hate them and realize, yes, they are in fact the TOP program.

    You don’t want to call them dominant, fine, but when you lose 5 times to someone, in a row, WHAT ELSE DO YOU CALL IT?!


    Seriously dude. And no, Im not callin ya stupid. It’s just stupid to say 5 of the last 5 national titles and you aren’t dominate.

  31. bender4700 says: Sep 4, 2011 3:30 AM

    Seriously Phelbin,

    don’t post numbers showing the SEC wins more often than anyone else, acknowledge the fact they won the national title 5 straight damn years, and then get mad when people wonder if you are high.

  32. bender4700 says: Sep 4, 2011 3:32 AM

    fellas, Im going to bed. Sports, keep up the good fight. Boise is a program that is fun, and keeps things interesting. Love people or teams that buck the system.

    Phelbs, Im not sure what your logic is there, but ok, dont call the SEC dominate since their % is close to the Pac-10, but really, 5 straight national titles… come on man.

    That’s like saying the Patriots weren’t a dynasty when they won 3 of 4 super bowls. What the hell do you call a dynasty or dominate then?!

  33. bender4700 says: Sep 4, 2011 3:41 AM

    Seirously Phelbin, I might be up all night wondering what the heck else you need besides the numbers you posted.

    That’s like me posting the final score of the Boise v Georgia game and bragging about Georgia. The numbers are right there, how you gonna post em, then be like “they be wrong”.


    Seriously bud, what the heck are you talking about the SEC isn’t dominate. Do they playfootball and keep score because it’s fun? No, WINNING matters. Ask Charlie Sheen, by Sheen’s standards the SEC is the ONLY conference worth a darn right now, because theyve won 5 years straight.

    Its like they take turns beating the nation.

    SEC meetings:

    Florida AD: “we wanna win this year”
    Bama AD: “Shut up Florida, you don’t get one for awhile”
    LSU AD: “How about us”
    Auburn AD: “No damn you!”
    South Carolina AD: “How about us”
    Arkansas AD: “Not before us!”
    Ole Miss AD: “We want in on this”
    Vanderbilt AD: “When’s our turn”
    everyone but the Vandy AD: “HAHAHAHHAHA”

  34. phelbin says: Sep 4, 2011 3:45 AM

    Endowments? Seriously? You’re really reaching there.

    I noticed you didn’t list a single SEC school. Is that because they don’t have much in the way of endowments? Only 2 of 12 SEC schools have more than $1 billion. But 11 of 12 Big Ten schools have more than $1 billion. Does that mean the Big Ten is better than the SEC?

    Harvard has $27 billion. Does that make them a prime candidate for BCS consideration? You also left Stanford off that list with their $13 billion. And their team is pretty darn good right now.

    Look, size of endowment has nothing to do with on-field performance. You’re grasping at straws to maintain the status quo.

  35. phelbin says: Sep 4, 2011 3:58 AM

    I never said the SEC wasn’t the top conference over the last decade. But the way you guys talk about them, you seem to believe they could beat most NFL teams. You act as though they blow out everyone else by 68 points all the time. And it just isn’t the case.

    The BCS championships are indisputable. But I’m talking about the overall strength of the the conferences, not the best team each year. And looking at all of the BCS games, the SEC and Pac-10 were virtually tied. But I bet in your mind, the Pac-10 isn’t even in the same league as the SEC. Right?

    All I’m saying is that the SEC usually has 2-3 fantastic teams, and the rest of the conference isn’t that much better than any other. Top to bottom, the SEC isn’t as good as you guys claim to be. The BCS winning percentage proves that. And if you look at all bowl games over the last decade by winning percentage, the SEC is middle of the road.

  36. alligatorsnapper says: Sep 4, 2011 7:58 AM

    bender4700: You have made this LSU fan laugh and together with our grilling of a Duck wrapped in bacon, we needed the laugh. They’re trying to wash us away (Randy Newman), there’s ____feet of water in the streets of Evangeline! Power out for most. We lost power in west Louisiana and have some flooding. It is alot to take in a few months and years.

  37. corvusrex96 says: Sep 4, 2011 8:10 AM

    I love how a TOP 25 ranked SEC team that had the entire offseason to prepare for this game goes out and loses on national TV and the SEC kool-aid drinkers dismiss it as an aborration.

    Boise is willing to play anyone anywhere but no one wants to a do a home and home. The only time they get a big game is kick off classic, in a not so neutral field, Georgia in the Georgia dome and last year VATech in the DC area.

    The same SEC , Big XII PAC 12 that claims Boise has a weak schedule are in fact too weak to schedule games with them.

  38. chmba says: Sep 4, 2011 8:39 AM

    Number of reasons why Boise State doesn’t belong in BCS game (by the way, I would like a playoff which they could get in).

    1. One middle of the pack SEC team to get up for and then a bunch of weak sisters.
    2. Blue field – no respectable team would play on that wimp field – they shouldn’t be allowed to play on TV with that field!
    3. What other college president talks “trash” other than theirs – bush league again.

  39. boomerdt says: Sep 4, 2011 10:01 AM

    If we are talking about playing 1 game (week 1, after a bye week, or bowl game) i’ll take boise everytime. they schedule teams to their strengths which is smart of them.

    however- my only complant has always been “where’s the beef”? this year boise has to play a MWC schedule which is tougher than a wac schedule. In the end teams with tougher schedules tend to have hurt players and have to show some legit tallent over the course of 3, 4 or 5 weeks against quality teams. Boise never suffers injuries and never has 2, 3 or 4 tough games in row. i make the same arguement for big east teams (wv from a few years ago) and acc teams.

    p.s. boise stop scheduling flopper teams (old oregon, vt, uga)…. go schedule texas, ohio st, lsu and then schedule an oklahoma state and a south carolina in the following 2 weeks and i’ll consider you worthy if you win them all.

  40. majorseahawk says: Sep 4, 2011 10:24 AM

    SEC teams are the ones that pad their schedule. Their Out of conference schedule is a joke. All they do is play each other and then pump up their own stock as being the best. Well let me ask you this, if you don’t play the best from around the nation on a regular basis then how do you know you are the best? Could the SEC teams handle having to play Boise, Oregon, Wisconsin, Standford, Ohio State, etc…? We’ll never know because all they do is play against cupcakes, then run up the score to make themselves look good. They won’t even do a home-home with the few good opponents they do face, why? Because they don’t want to be embarrassed to lose on the road to a none SEC team. Boise let up after that first drive of the 3rd quarter, the rest of the game was garbage time, they could have put up 50 points on them if they wanted to, but they are more classy than that.

  41. skoalbrother says: Sep 4, 2011 10:41 AM

    UGA needs a new Head Coach

  42. aztecboy says: Sep 4, 2011 11:20 AM

    Dear Pac 10, SEC, ACC, Big 12 can we please join your conference? Also would you please schedule more “bigtime” games for us? Thank You, Love BSU….

    Oh if it were only that easy…maybe those of you who think that Boise plays a weak schedule could let us know how we can change that…we have told all teams in the NCAA that we will play a home and home aginst any team…we have agreed to play any teams on a neutral field (ie. Georgia in Atlanta)sure…thats neutral, we are expanding our stadium, what else do you want…you say that all we do is prepare for one big game a year…but how important is it for the teams we play (Georgia) to also go undefeated each year, I am assuming that the argument is that they dont need the win like we do, so they don’t prepare?…and how does everybody continue to say that boise cant handle a tough schedule, when no one has ever seen how we would really do, it is all speculation. Georgia, lost 3 times more players in the game last night than BSU…I guess they cant handle it either…

  43. sportsinhd says: Sep 4, 2011 12:08 PM

    marjorseahawk . . . . I wouldn’t say ALL SEC teams play cupcakes. Alabama plays Penn State this year, LSU just beat Oregon, in the past I’ve seen Tennessee head out west and lose to formerly PAC-10 schools. What I’ve never seen is Florida play a meaningful game until facing Tennessee in September, but that’s one school not the entire conference.

    I wish the NCAA would stop letting 1-AA teams play 1-A teams (and I bet Oregon State feels that way right now too). College football should encourage tough match-ups, not reward the easy win.

  44. stairwayto7 says: Sep 4, 2011 12:31 PM

    Boise State exposed yet another weak SEC team! Georgia had to call a timeout because Boise State was too fast? ARE YOU SERIOUS??? And Boise won in Georgia! Why don’t Bama, florida or other SEC teams play them ona home and home series> Oh wait, SEC teams do nto travel out of the south!

  45. bender4700 says: Sep 4, 2011 1:34 PM

    alligatorsnapper says: Sep 4, 2011 7:58 AM

    bender4700: You have made this LSU fan laugh and together with our grilling of a Duck wrapped in bacon, we needed the laugh. They’re trying to wash us away (Randy Newman), there’s ____feet of water in the streets of Evangeline! Power out for most. We lost power in west Louisiana and have some flooding. It is alot to take in a few months and years.

    My Dad and sis are down there. About an hour outside of New Orleans to the west, Im sure you know where that is. They lost power the other night but it came back. All doing fine there. Hope you are all doing ok too.

    Glad someone else gets it, its just jokin around.

    @phelbin, you never said “2 or 3 teams are good”, you just said the SEC isnt dominate despite overwhelming evidence they are.

    Whoever sent me a message or comment or something telling me to grow up, dude you are an IDIOT, ITS THE DAMN INTERNET, GET A LIFE. Its all for fun. Learn to LAUGH.

  46. brutusbuckeye2011 says: Sep 4, 2011 2:35 PM

    Most big name schools are afraid to schedule Boise. There is nothing in it for them. A win results in beating a WAC/MWC team (big deal). A loss is devastating to their chance for a BCS bowl game. I don’t care what league you are in. Boise’s record over the past several years is incredible. They have beaten a lot of the “Big Boys” and they do it with players other teams thought were too small or not good enough to play in the PAC (10,12,14,16??) or the Big (12,10,6, 0??).

  47. Deb says: Sep 4, 2011 3:34 PM

    Sorry, JT, but I agree with jaggedmark. This is one game against a mediocre Georgia team. Woo-hoo. Now back to the cushy schedule.

    These guys play on a blue field. Blue. A blue football “field.” They’ve been using the blend of their uniform colors with the field color to visually confuse opponents. :roll: Asking me to take this nonsense seriously is like asking me to consider Kermit the Frog’s Hamlet on a par with Olivier’s.

    They played a great game on a real field last night against an okay opponent. Give us a playoff system and let them run the table playing on neutral green fields. They can earn their trophy like anyone else. But don’t ask me to respect people who need gimmicks like blue fields to get attention.

  48. ajarkoski says: Sep 4, 2011 4:10 PM


    learn to have a discussion and not fillibuster becuase you think you know more than debbie your twin. BYU ran the tables in the MWC and got to play for their only national title. The MWC is not the WAC. TCU, San Diego St. and AF are good teams. They aren’t ducking Nev. Scheduled and beat Georgia. Non-conference include Toledo, Tulsa and Nevada. Boise is trying and I think can play with any team out there. Give them some credit. You cannot just join any conference – ask Tex A&M and BYU. The season just started! If they are undeated, they deserve STRONG consideration!

  49. udub says: Sep 4, 2011 4:13 PM

    One game a year isn’t reason for BCS inclusion. They are playing two preseason ranked teams, a Georgia team that is ranked only because of their name (they had a losing season last year) and TCU who already lost.

    That alone is not deserving to be in the BCS when there are teams like LSU playing SEVEN preseason ranked teams.

  50. lrg51 says: Sep 4, 2011 5:55 PM

    Boise State fans are acting like its an entitlement that they should get a BCS berth. Play with the big boys week after week. To do that, you have to join a top conference… unless you’re ND who gets automatic favortism votes week after week.

  51. lrg51 says: Sep 4, 2011 6:01 PM

    Big time football programs can’t afford to take an obvious financial shortfall playing in winky dink Idaho. No gig time program will commit to do that… dumb idea.

  52. Deb says: Sep 4, 2011 8:21 PM

    @ajarkoski …

    I don’t know who bender’s twin “debbie” is, but if you’re trying to call me out, have the balls to just do it.

  53. pff says: Sep 4, 2011 8:33 PM

    “What I’ve never seen is Florida play a meaningful game until facing Tennessee in September, but that’s one school not the entire conference.”


    maybe the dumbest thing I have read all day

  54. mdnittlion says: Sep 5, 2011 11:34 AM

    Why don’t we all say out loud what everyone from a BCS conference secretly knows, but won’t say:

    “They won’t go undefeated in a big boy conference, but give them only one game to win for the National Championship and like a month to get ready and there isn’t a team in D-1 that can beat them and THAT”S the reason we hate them”

    There I said it and it’s exactly what Todd Blackledge brought up an the end of the Georgia game. Personally I’d rather see them play in the NC than another under performing Oklahoma team no one thinks will win.

  55. Deb says: Sep 5, 2011 12:43 PM

    mdnittlion says:

    Why don’t we all say out loud what everyone from a BCS conference secretly knows, but won’t say:

    “They won’t go undefeated in a big boy conference, but give them only one game to win for the National Championship and like a month to get ready and there isn’t a team in D-1 that can beat them and THAT”S the reason we hate them”

    Yeah, I agree they won’t go undefeated in a big-boy conference. But I don’t agree that even with a month to prepare that they could beat any D-1 team. That’s silly. I hate them because they’re ALL MOUTH. Whatever their current standings, teams like USC, Ohio State, Alabama, Oklahoma, and even my archnemesis Notre Dame earned their stripes through decades of playing the best in the country on the biggest stages. They didn’t just play pick-up games on someone’s blue backyard, become the small-town bully for three years, and declare themselves the equal of giants.

    Colorado moved to the Pac-12. Nebraska moved to the Big 10. A&M is moving to the SEC. Let Boise State move to a Big Boy conference where the competition is consistent throughout the season. And let them stop using asinine gimmicks to get recognition and rely instead on their game and only their game. You want respect? Be respectful.

  56. dkhhuey says: Sep 5, 2011 3:10 PM


    Couldn’t have said it better myself. Preparing for one big game every year, then beating up on cream puffs the rest of the year doesn’t prove anything. I’m all for giving them a chance at the title but not until they play an entire season against BCS caliber opponents. That is the only way they will earn, and deserve consideration for the title.

  57. mdnittlion says: Sep 5, 2011 4:25 PM

    @Deb & dkhhuey

    Miami didn’t have to respect anyone to play in National Championships they just showed up on National TV when they got a chance and won. And if playing in a tough conference were to mean your somehow elite, then losing 3 National Championships in the last decade really takes the shine off Oklahoma.

    And you can’t rely on decades of past play to determine a program, cause thinking like that is the reason Notre Dame keeps getting ranked at the start of every season despite their current level of actual play.

  58. Deb says: Sep 5, 2011 10:33 PM

    @mdnittlion …

    I don’t believe in polling to determine who’s the best team in football at the start of the season or at the end. That’s why we need a playoff tournament.

    At least Oklahoma had to play someone to get to the championship. It’s not like they just played a pick-up game and got an invite to the Big One. And at least Miami played on an actual football field rather than the animated set from Finding Nemo. But the only thing I remember about Miami and championships is how they bragged their way through the 1992 season only to have underdog Bama beat the snot out of them in the Sugar Bowl.

  59. Deb says: Sep 5, 2011 10:40 PM

    mdnittlion, I love any chance to relive that moment 😉 BTW, that thumbs-down you got didn’t come from me :)

  60. waynefontes says: Sep 6, 2011 10:22 AM

    Boise State is a very good team and is one of the better football teams in America. Boise State plays a very weak schedule. Those are facts.

    At least 20 teams would go undefeated if they got to play Boise’s schedule. That is opinion, but I bet if that happened it would be fact.

    I love all these idiots on here giving thumbs down to the logical posts.

    I’m sure not all of you fools are Boise fans. In fact, the Boise fans aren’t fools. They’re standing up for their team so I can at least respect that.

    The rest of you must pull for losers and are living vicariously through a team that plays a cupcake schedule and plays on blue turf. Says a lot for you.

    I’ll enjoy the thumbs down while laughing at all of you who put blue turf before common sense.

  61. waynefontes says: Sep 6, 2011 10:33 AM

    phelbin says:
    Sep 4, 2011 2:54 AM
    I was looking at the numbers earlier today. If we look at only BCS games over the last 10 years, we get the following winning percentages by conference.

    SEC .684
    Pac-10 .667
    Big East .500
    At Large .500
    Big 12 .471
    Big Ten .429
    ACC .167

    The facts just don’t match the narrative that we usually hear from the media and SEC fans. The SEC is supposed to be absolutely dominant! They’re just not, and the Pac-10 has performed almost as well in the BCS bowls.


    Phelbin, let me ask you this….

    How many BCS titles has the SEC won in a row?
    How many BCS titles has the SEC won?
    How many BCS title games has the SEC lost?

    You can try and manipulate the numbers how you like, but you’re an idiot if you think the SEC isn’t dominant. The SEC is by far the best when it counts, and nobody else comes close. Nobody.


    Bender, don’t try to argue with fools. The rational, intelligent people understand what you’re saying.

    Although a killer schedule that MAY have one ranked team at the end of the year really should earn you a spot in the national title game. Fools.

  62. boisestatewhodat says: Sep 6, 2011 12:20 PM

    Remember when I said Boise State would win by at least 2 touchdowns? Where is ‘secgreatness’? The one who was gonna look for me at midnight following the game…bender, I think you’re one too…at least you came back though. It must be frustrating for you SEC homers to keep up the same old Boise State argument each and every season just hoping we’ll go away and stop winning. Why is it that Boise State is never big enough or doesn’t have the depth, skill, quickness and/or size but yet…we keep humiliating the ‘establishment’ each and every time we get the opportunity? Get used to it fellas…Boise State may not wind up in the title game anytime soon but count on this…we’re not going anywhere anytime soon so you might want to quit singing the same old tune and admit…Boise State is a sound football team and plays the game the way it was meant to played on a consistent basis.

  63. boisestatewhodat says: Sep 6, 2011 12:25 PM

    Really, they’re schedule is weaker than other BCS conferences? I don’t think the Big East, among others, is any more difficult than the mountain west…certainly not if TCU, Utah and BYU would’ve stayed…I get the strength of schedule argument, I really do but…it can only be taken so far and its the same old argument you guys make every year. We blow our competition away man…its not like we’re squeaking past them. We even blow out the ‘big boys’ we play! Its the same old tune with you guys and you’re starting to look really silly pitching it!

  64. Deb says: Sep 6, 2011 12:50 PM

    I’ve always liked Wayne Fontes.

    @boisestatewhodat …

    I like you but your team didn’t beat the SEC. You played a great game against a mediocre SEC team, and for that I congratulate the Broncos. But now you’ll go back to an easy schedule. Alabama heads to Penn State next week and will continue a schedule that includes 5 ranked teams. LSU just decimated the #3 team in the country in the worst possible circumstances and will continue with a similar schedule. Boise State is not in their class. Sorry.

    I’m a strong proponent of a playoff tournament. If the Broncos ran the table against real contenders, I’d believe. But they’ve got to get rid of that goofy blue field.

  65. secgreatness says: Sep 6, 2011 12:53 PM

    Boise State beat UGA the first game of the season they simply outplayed them and were better prepared to face UGA than UGA was to face Boise. Is Boise really that good? No, you saw the ability they have to give big plays, it happened three times in that game. UGA didn’t drive the ball down the field against Boise at all, Boise gave up big plays.
    No one has doubt that Boise can’t win big games, that’s never been the question.
    The question is does Boise have the depth to play in TOP BCS caliber conference week in and week out? We don’t know. They have excellent starters, our concern is their second and third team rosters and how good they are. They beat UGA, So? Still doesn’t mean they are BCS worthy. I’ve always said until they play a reasonable tough conference schedule they will always be suspect. They’ve proven over and over again they can win against decent teams. What they haven’t proven over and over again is that they can win consistently week-to-week in tough conference play. Hint: MWC and WAC, is not tough conference play. Your argument that the Big East is weaker than the MWC, and or WAC is bogus, what facts are you basing that on? None, it’s your opinion. TCU is leaving the MWC, Utah is already gone, and so Boise again has no “tough” conference play on their schedule.

    Is Boise a Good team that has proven they can win a big game or two? Yes

    Is Boise a TOP BCS Contender that has proven to beat quality top opponents week in and week out? No, until they do, they’ll never be worthy of a BCS title game, despite how many times they beat UGA.
    In order to be considered the best you have to beat the best. Does Boise play the best every week? No!! Then why do they deserve a shot at the title then?

  66. boisestatewhodat says: Sep 6, 2011 1:02 PM

    Ahhhhh, shaking my head…some things never change…Deb, I’m glad you like me and the sentiment is mutual but even if you didn’t, my stance will not change on the subject. The fact is that you and I and secgreatness all have our opinions but in the end…the experts and coaches associated with the NCAA now have the Broncos ranked 4th in the nation. Clearly, I’m not the only one who thinks the way I do. To cap it off…here’s a very talented coach in the SEC, Steve Spurrier, and his comments regarding Boise State…and I quote:

    “That quarterback is very good. He throws that ball like he’s got a baseball in his hand. He’s got a real quick release and he just flicks it here and flicks it there. He knows where everybody is. He’s hard to sack. He’s just really a good player. You just have to admire watching those guys play. I love watching them play because they block, they tackle well, they play fundamentals, they are just about always in position, they don’t do stupid things. They just play the game the way you are supposed to. I may vote them No. 1 in the country after watching them beat Georgia . . . Maybe after watching Boise State play all week will allow our guys to see how you’re supposed to play this game.” – South Carolina Coach Steve Spurrier

  67. Deb says: Sep 6, 2011 2:28 PM

    @boisestatewhodat …

    Steve Spurrier and his mind games brought me to CFT in the first place :) Had a whole thread of people arguing me up and down, but I was right in the end about the number he was trying to do on Alabama. And he’s doing quite a number on his team right now. Don’t blame him considering how they started that game. You’d have to know his history to understand what I’m talking about. The Ol’ Ball Coach is the craftiest strategist in football. Gosh, I love that sneaky old guy. But I can guarantee he didn’t give BSU a #1 vote.

    On the other hand, I think he’s serious about your QB and I’d never argue with Steve Spurrier about QB talent or about a disciplined team. Taking nothing away from your team’s talent at what they do. They simply don’t have the same challenges week in and week out that teams in stronger conferences face.

    On a brighter note, will be seriously rooting for your Saints on Thursday 😀

  68. boisestatewhodat says: Sep 6, 2011 2:37 PM

    Agreed…they don’t have the rigors of SEC play week in and week out but if the SEC has the bigger, better, faster players (and they do) then why don’t any of those teams put up the numbers Boise State does with smaller, weaker, slower players? The reason is that Boise State develops players better than most…they have better coaches than most and they’re more disciplined than most. BTW, Boise State would have blown Oregon out just as LSU did Saturday night…just as they’ve also done twice before (in a row mind you with Missoli and Blount on the roster as well)! Glad to hear you’re rooting for the Saints…should be a classic game. WHO DAT!!

  69. boisestatewhodat says: Sep 6, 2011 2:46 PM

    Last thing…not sure what ‘stronger conferences’ means? Touching on what I said earlier of the Big East…I don’t think that Miami’s challenges or Rutger’s challenges exceed Boise State’s…but those teams play in AQ conferences…that’s where the strength of schedule argument begins to deteriorate. There are plenty of teams in AQ conferences that play weak schedules…just as weak as BSU but no one says anything about Rutgers’ schedule because (A. they don’t win like Boise State does and B. they’re in an AQ conference). Frankly, the BCS is broken and Boise State, TCU and the like are to blame and bitterness will prevail within the ‘establishment’ as a result…boo hoo, so sad!

  70. boisestatewhodat says: Sep 6, 2011 3:02 PM

    BTW, 2 coaches gave BSU first place votes…not saying they deserve to be #1…just sayin’ that 2 coaches thought so. Regardless of schedule…Boise State is as good as any team in NCAA football. Where they’re lacking, they make up elsewhere…its how their built. Smart coaches, smart QB, smart team…as good as any in the country…disagree with me all you want but the truth is in the pudding…just watch em play.

  71. dkhhuey says: Sep 6, 2011 6:13 PM

    @boise – sorry, I’m watching them play weak team after weak team. You play one decent BCS team at the beginning of each year with an entire year to game plan against them. Throughout the rest of the year, your schedule is weak at best. You don’t even need to change your game plan what-so-ever to pummel the competition. The opposition is so weak that your star players rarely get touched and your line barely breaks a sweat. Your team in no way shape or form faces the grind, wear and tear, and bodily stress that the BCS teams regularly face week after week.

    Nobody is saying you don’t have a talented team – what we are saying is that you do not belong in the championship game given your weak schedule. I shudder to think how many teams in the BCS conferences could go undefeated playing your schedule – it would most certainly be 20 or more.

  72. mdnittlion says: Sep 6, 2011 7:22 PM

    @ Deb

    I appreciate you pointing out you didn’t give me the thumbs down. I’d like to see the playoff idea come to mind, but that only means preseason polls will mean more. There is no way the playoff wouldn’t include a preseason poll. I still think it’s possible for teams not going to the playoffs to play in second tier bowls, so that way the service academy’s & MWC & CUSA & lower quality teams in the ACC, Big Ten, Big East, Vandy, Kentucky and Houston Nutt can go to a game.

  73. Deb says: Sep 6, 2011 10:17 PM

    @mdnittlion …

    Houston Nutt … ROFL

    I agree … they’ll still have those bloody polls in there. And I don’t want a playoff tournament that limits participants to one team per conference. There should be a wildcard opportunity as in the NFL. Don’t know how they’ll work it out, but surely with all these brainiacs, someone can find a way :)

    @boisestatewhodat …

    I haven’t looked at the numbers because I’m not a stat girl. The only number that matters to me is the one on the scoreboard at the end. And I’m a big fan of defensive football, so I’m not wild about all these high-flying games anyway. But if the SEC doesn’t put up the numbers BSU does, it’s probably because we’re playing tougher opponents.

    I’ve made fun of the ACC for years and said that if Miami and FSU had guts, they’d play in the SEC. I agree with you about the BCS. Let’s get rid of it and go to a tournament playoff. No matter what kind of schedule you play, you’ll have to be good to run the table in a tournament.

    My biggest problem with BSU is the field. I just can’t stand that field. Can’t stand to look at it. Don’t ever want to watch a game on that field. Noooo. Don’t want my team to schedule any games there. Nooooo.

  74. paulbrownsrevenge says: Sep 7, 2011 4:15 PM


    I was wrong about Georgia, honestly bought into the SEC dominates hype. I’m sure Georgia wins maybe 5 games. Can’t believe that SEC speed got beat by a bunch of no name receivers. Kellen Moore Surprised me, as did their lineman.

  75. 808raiderinparadise says: Sep 7, 2011 6:43 PM

    Wake up. Boise States D-line is as good as any SEC rosters D-line. They are an elite team. Schematically different, and recruit different but they win, and any of you salty haters out there, put your team up against them week 1 on a nuetral site, oh wait ….. your school is prob scared to risk losing. Just ask USC when boise tried scheduling them 3 years ago.

  76. paulbrownsrevenge says: Sep 7, 2011 10:43 PM

    I hope if these super conferences happen Boise State gets into the pac16. I like watching them play.

  77. TxGrown says: Sep 7, 2011 11:39 PM

    paulbrownsrevenge says: Sep 7, 2011 10:43 PM

    I hope if these super conferences happen Boise State gets into the pac16. I like watching them play.
    Really think they would be invited? As a Longhorn fan (I know I know)…I would love to see them play Boise State if they both end up in the PAC 16. My son is a Boise State grad.

  78. edcolton says: Sep 8, 2011 1:59 AM

    Boy-see just doesn’t play the schedule week after week. The SEC and Big Ten scheduld wears on you-injuries, etc. Nobody talks about this latter factor.

    Playing little sisters of the poor might get you extra prayers for heaven but no BCS game. 8 teams of SEC would beat the Boys! Big, fast, athletic men

  79. edcolton says: Sep 8, 2011 2:03 AM

    Georgia will lose 4 in the SEC this year.

    Bama and LSU replay for BCS title.
    No arm takling in this league like Pac 2 or Little Ten

  80. paulbrownsrevenge says: Sep 8, 2011 9:16 AM


    You sound like a serious SEC homer. Did you watch Ole Miss lose to jacksonville st. last year, BYU this year? or how about Auburn playing like crap against Utah State, who any other conference’s middle of the road teams would handle. I agree Boise shouldn’t get a title shot if they win out, but you make the SEC sound unbeatable. The reality is no one wants to play Boise because they have nothing to gain and everything to lose. Ask Mark Richt

  81. seanmmartin says: Sep 8, 2011 9:44 AM

    chmba says:
    Sep 4, 2011 8:39 AM
    Number of reasons why Boise State doesn’t belong in BCS game (by the way, I would like a playoff which they could get in).

    1. One middle of the pack SEC team to get up for and then a bunch of weak sisters.
    2. Blue field – no respectable team would play on that wimp field – they shouldn’t be allowed to play on TV with that field!
    3. What other college president talks “trash” other than theirs – bush league again.


    Regarding #3, are you familiar with the Ohio State University?

  82. waynefontes says: Sep 8, 2011 9:44 AM

    My problem with Boise State is something that they don’t really have control over.

    They are a great team, I won’t deny that. They are one of the better teams in college football. And they perform big time on the big time stage.

    I’m not one of those who say that they’d finish 4th or 5th in a big time conference. But I do think they’d lose at least one if not two.

    I just don’t like the fact that they get a free pass for the most part during the season while everyone else has to struggle. And in all honesty, what big program would want to do a home and home and have to go to Boise, Idaho?

    They can’t get into a big time league because while they have a great football program but their other programs would drag down an elite conference. Boise basketball? Exactly.

    At least we’ll have this whole argument again for the most if not all of this year. If nothing else, will be entertaining to watch it unfold.

  83. paulbrownsrevenge says: Sep 9, 2011 1:59 AM

    what a great pic of kellen moore

  84. wildcats575 says: Sep 9, 2011 12:16 PM

    it’s not our fault our schedule is what it is. If we had the opportunity to play more big schools we would be all over that but we don’t get the chance to. Even the espn news reporters covering the Boise state game said if given the chance we could run with the big boys and they used both of our wins against Oregon as an example. Who says that if we can beat Oregon twice in a row who then went on to play for the national title we cant compete at that level too and every sports caster in the nation is starting to believe that. People in Boise are so sick of hearing the argument about our schedule and you know what we have no control of that and because we can’t that is the only argument y’all ever have. Our boys are good and they work hard and our friends are finally getting the recognition they deserve. Notice how the only put down anyone ever has against boise state is the schedule. the ONE thing the players can not control. Its not fair that teams that perform better than other teams don’t get the better rankings. Sure, Boise state doesn’t have the toughest schedule but every time they end up kicking the crap out of every team they play, doesn’t that say something? maybe that we need to be in a better conference so we have more competition? so people will shut their mouths about boise state and their schedules? Big teams don’t want to play us, not because to them beating a MWC team doesn’t look good. Because guess what, beating a #4 nationally ranked team does look good., but its because they are scared they are going to lose. Those teams need to man up and play the game for the reason its meant to be played. For good competition. And people need to shut up about the turf. 1) if you are on the field and can not see a 300 pound man in front of you with a white face mask, colored gloves, and cored cleats (not blue) you have serious sight issues. Boise State does not win because of blue jerseys. Obviously they have proven that considering they win in all white, all orange, and last year’s combat jerseys (grey) big thanks to U of I’s head coach for backing us up stating that we win because we are good and have talent. 2) they made the no blue on blue rule because it was hard to watch film from above, not because the boys on the field couldn’t see the other players, thats like saying oh michigan state shouldn’t be allowed to wear their green jerseys on green turf. And for those of you who say “the surf turf” is ridiculous or shouldn’t be allowed why is that? all it is is turf, it makes my school unique, its football, the color of the turf doesn’t change how you play. BSU wins on the blue and wins on the green. And that is the way it is going to be.

  85. dkhhuey says: Sep 9, 2011 3:40 PM

    @wildcat – any one of the top 30 or so schools could go undefeated playing Boise’s schedule. Sorry, your team does not even remotely face the issues of those top 30 schools do while playing week after week in the big conferences. You play a decent team in the beginning of the year and that is admirable – however, that does not replace the fact that for the remainder of the year, you play high school level teams that you don’t have to game plan for. Until the powers to be in your university do what it takes to get you into a major conference – you’re going to have deal with hearing about your weak schedule because it is absolutely an issue.

    The smurf turf doesn’t make you unique – it makes you look like a gimmick team with a very weak schedule playing on a carpet rug a booster got off the clearance rack at Buddy’s Carpet Barn.

  86. rollerino1 says: Sep 10, 2011 11:40 AM

    I say, let them have a BCS bid; either they sink or swim. Either way, all questions about them will be answered.

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