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Source tells paper ‘the Big 12’s done’

Pull the Plug

(In an unrelated story we’re working on for later today, we’ll also be reporting that water is indeed still wet.)

Amid numerous reports that Texas officials had traveled to Norman over the weekend in an attempt to convince Oklahoma to stay true to the Big 12, another surfaced Monday that Oklahoma could apply for admission to the Pac-12 before the calendar turns to October.

The ongoing soap opera that is the Big 12 continues unabated a day later, with yet another report buttressing the notions that OU has its mind set on taking its conference affiliation westward and the plug is about to be (mercifully) pulled on the beleaguered conference — maybe.

According to the Austin American-Statesman, and prior to the Sooners-Longhorns summit, OU regents have charged president David Boren with the task of preparing a document to formally apply for admission to the Pac-12.  While the meeting between the two Big 12 superpowers was described as cordial, it appears it had little impact on OU’s desire to leave the Big 12’s instability in its rear-view mirror.

“There’s nothing Texas could have offered Oklahoma that would have changed their mind. They were set on leaving the Big 12 before Texas got there,” the American-Statesman quotes what it describes as a well-placed source at a Big 12 school.

The Big 12’s done. Oklahoma wasn’t open to creating Big 12 stability.”

Despite the source very bluntly stating that the Big 12 is done, and another saying they “think OU and OSU will seek membership to the Pac-12 in the next two weeks”, the paper goes on to report that Texas’ first two preferences for the future are, in order, save the Big 12 and save the Big 12.  If that’s not feasible?  There are three factors UT will focus on in determining its conference future.

The first is the well-being of its student-athletes. Traveling back and forth across the country and different time zones can make life extremely difficult for students trying to cram for midterms. The ACC with its Eastern time zone would present a more favorable option for game times and late-night travel than the Pac-12.

Texas’ second metric is economics. The Joneses don’t take pay cuts. Texas has a $154 million annual budget and isn’t interested in joining a conference where its brand or its profit margin takes a hit. And this includes Texas’ three-letter issue. Not SEC. But LHN. Texas has no desire to part, alter or share any aspect of The Longhorn Network, but it would not be able to retain the network as is in the Pac-12.

The Longhorns’ third goal is to make a decision that agrees with fans’ interests by maintaining traditions and some rivalries, at least the one against OU if not A&M.

Rumors have been bubbling below the surface that UT may have an eye on the ACC if the Big 12 implodes.  According to the American-Statesman, that possibility should not be dismissed out of hand; the paper writes that “[a] high-ranking Texas source said that the ACC has been in contact with Texas, but added that talks hadn’t progressed to a mature phase.”

Of course, such a move, if it is indeed to become a reality, is a few steps down the road.  First and foremost, the Texas A&M-to-SEC situation would need to be settled before any other dominoes tumbled.  Then the ball would bounce into the court of Oklahoma, and by extension Oklahoma State, forcing the school to decide once and for all if they will submit notice to the Big 12 that they will seek other conference opportunities.

If that step is taken, OU would then formally apply for admission to the Pac-12.  While that conference’s commissioner, Larry Scott, was quoted as saying that he would prefer there be no further expansion, never once has he ever even intimated that his league would not be willing to listen if a school such as OU came to him seeking membership.

If it ever gets to that point — and based on the multiple reports in the last week it likely will sooner rather than later — UT would appear to have four options: take part in the rebuild of what would then be a seven-team Big 12 by raiding other conferences; along with Texas Tech, follow the Oklahoma schools to the Pac-12 to form a 16-team “super conference”; go to the opposite end of the country and join the ACC; or go independent.

The most appealing option for the ‘Horns?  Whichever one most protects The Longhorn Network, the very entity that helped create a sizable portion of the uncertainty and instability in the Big 12 in the first place.

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44 Responses to “Source tells paper ‘the Big 12’s done’”
  1. says: Sep 13, 2011 10:20 AM

    Texas is a lot of things. You can add ironic to that list.

  2. buckeye4278 says: Sep 13, 2011 10:40 AM

    If Texas wants stability in the Big12, SHARE THE MONEY EQUALLY!!!!!!!!!! The Big10 and SEC are so stable because Alabama and Ohio St are willing to share equally with Vandy and Northwestern.

  3. overratedgators says: Sep 13, 2011 10:41 AM

    Texas’ first, second, third, and only metric is economics. They got greedy, then got greedier, and now the Big Ten-uous is about to blow up as a result. Serves ’em right.

  4. polegojim says: Sep 13, 2011 10:45 AM

    UT is amazing… continual denial of their responsibility in ‘sickening’ all the programs around them.

    Stick your finger down your own throat Texas, A&M, OU, Nebraska… and more to be disclosed soon… are tired of you making them puke.

    Independence? Bowl Games? Enjoy the money, it’s what you obviously love the most.

  5. southernpatriots says: Sep 13, 2011 10:58 AM

    The source could have been any of southernpatriots ourselves or any of the most astute posters at CFT. Wonder which one was the source…ha. This has been the conclusion of many here at CFT from the beginning of this drama.

    Baylor may have a lawsuit with Texas, but they don’t have one against Slive and the SEC since the A & M president admitted he made the first contact with Slive and the SEC. Baylor may have a suit v. A & M, but if they think they have one viable against A & M, then even more so against Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, and Texas. The hypocrites at Baylor may be left with no money and no conference.

  6. bamasucks says: Sep 13, 2011 11:07 AM

    Texas killed the Big 12 but their top two priorities are to save the Big 12? lmao

  7. teke184 says: Sep 13, 2011 11:13 AM

    Texas is starting to realize how badly it overplayed its hand after Nebraska bolted last year.

    I think the question is whether they can bring in a team or two for the purposes of numbers so that Texas can still get Big 12 money and the scheduling perks while still getting LHN money.

    Outside of making it the SWC 2.0 by bringing in SMU and other mid-majors in and around Texas, I don’t see them pulling it off.

  8. centexhorn says: Sep 13, 2011 11:20 AM

    As a UT fan, this makes me just absolutely sick! What the HELL are they doing!? The ACC!? The freaking ACC!? I’m fed up. This is like dealing with freaking teabaggers. They’re ideologues and it’s really just exhausting and infuriating.

  9. bamasucks says: Sep 13, 2011 11:28 AM

    is Texas too good for the ACC? it seems like they think that they’re too good for any conference. no matter which conference they end up in or even if they go independent, they’re going to be getting what they deserve.

  10. mldean71 says: Sep 13, 2011 11:40 AM

    OK, what most of you dont understand is in the end TEXAS will get what it has wanted to get from he beginning, INDEPENDENCE! OU & AtM will take most of the blame for the BIG12 failing. OU didnt have a problem with the LHN, they had plans to start their own network. AtM was just a WINER and just like Nebraska, was tired of Texas & OU call all the shots in the conference. Texas will get their yearly game against Notre Dame and BYU because all the INDEPENDENT stick together. Who would you rather play AtM or Notre Dame?

  11. tgaustin says: Sep 13, 2011 11:45 AM

    What’s funny and what you never hear about, is the schools who wanted unequal revenue sharing more than anyone else, and shouted the loudest for it, are the schools who are leaving or have left the conference: Nebraska, Colorado and Texas A&M…just a little fact that people don’t know because they focus all their hate on Texas!! Truth hurts. It’s comical and pretty much asinine to think that Texas is the reason the conference has dismantled! So, if Iowa State signs a TV deal and it’s worth say…$500,000 a year, does anyone care??? Of course not…but since the deal that UT signed was for $300 million, well, that’s just BS right??? How dare a school do what’s in the best interest for their University…even if they offered to share that same contract with Texas A&M. The sad part is it shouldn’t be just about football even if it’s the sport that moves the needle and brings in the most pesos. Not to mention that the money the UT football team makes helps fund all the other sports on campus…and BTW, those other sports have won 113 TITLES total since the inception of the Big 12!! Second place was Nebraska at 72!

  12. bamasucks says: Sep 13, 2011 11:49 AM

    yeah. Texas is totally blameless in all of this. the Big 12 implosion had nothing to do with a playing field that was anything but level and the LHN. everyone else in the Big 12 should thank Texas for letting them be a part of their conference.

    it sounds like the fan base is just as arrogant as the university that represents them.

  13. bamasucks says: Sep 13, 2011 11:52 AM

    tgaustin, most of the other Big12 schools are only trying to do what’s best for their programs too…….getting away from Texas.

    Texas is getting what they wanted(LHN), and A & M, OU, and OSDU are getting what they wanted. everybody wins, right?

  14. alligatorsnapper says: Sep 13, 2011 12:04 PM

    mldean71: Texas would much prefer playing Notre Dame whom they can beat (who can’t?) rather than playing Texas A & M who beat them. That’s easy even for Texas homers to understand.

  15. tgaustin says: Sep 13, 2011 12:09 PM

    You guys are proving my point with every word you type!! The Conference voted on unequal revenue sharing, Texas didn’t put a gun to their heads and force this…but whatever. And Auburn fan, are you telling me that if ESPN approached your school with the same TV deal, they would turn in down right???? Of course they would, how silly of me. You never hear any hate come from Texas fan, they are trying to stop A&M from leaving…we wish them best. They are doing what is best for them… but everytime someone blames it all on Texas, we just shake our heads and laugh. Haters will always hate and lovers will always love…Dave Chapelle!

  16. bamasucks says: Sep 13, 2011 12:15 PM

    yes, Auburn would turn them down. the SEC, unlike the Big 12, believes in equal revenue sharing. their may be an SEC Network in the very near future but you’ll never, ever see networks for individual teams that keep all or the majority of the revenue.

  17. bamasucks says: Sep 13, 2011 12:20 PM

    and of course, Texas is trying to keep A&M. it’s pretty obvious by now that Texas wants the LHN *and* everyone else in the Big 12 to be okay with them running the conference. they can want all they like. it’s pretty clear at this point that they aren’t going to get have it both ways.

  18. aggiegirl00 says: Sep 13, 2011 1:03 PM

    They need to put this soap opera on day time TV.

    I wish Texas would just go flipping independant, which is their end goal anyways. Put the Big 12 and all of this drama out of its misery. But they won’t just take a stand and do it. They don’t like to share and this way they won’t have too. But they want A&M and OU to fire off the 1st bullets so they won’t be the ones known for killing the Big 12, when they are in fact the sole reason the Big 12 will die. I’m an Aggie and I will be 1st to admit that A&M does not hold the cards here, but little ole Baylor doesn’t want to play nice and I am sure they are snuggling under the covers with UT and their end goal, which is never to be the bad guy!!

    Ugh this is a bad divorce, just shoot the d a m n trigger

  19. tonesky says: Sep 13, 2011 1:22 PM

    What a joke. UT farts and the rest of the world goes apoplectic. UT is the Israel of the sports world.

    TAMU and OU BENEFIT from the current Big 12 revenue sharing deal. They are not leaving because they get MORE than their share! You are just buying their spin. As for the LHN, (1) other schools have substantially identical deals, (2) many more schools will have substantially identical deals in the coming years, and (3) LHN programming is limited to 3rd tier programming that the networks did not want and the conference could not sell.

  20. florida727 says: Sep 13, 2011 2:39 PM

    “tgaustin”, if you think A&M, Nebraska and Colorado wanted UNequal revenue sharing, you’re delusional. What kind of an idiot would WANT their competition to have MORE money than they themselves would be getting? Dude. Think. This isn’t rocket science. If you’re citing a ‘source’, I’d suggest finding another source.

  21. mdnittlion says: Sep 13, 2011 2:46 PM

    As a Penn State fan it kills me to say this, but Tom Osborne was right the Big 12 was a bad idea.

  22. mallard82 says: Sep 13, 2011 2:47 PM

    The longhorns are hypocrites. All you need to know about Texas can be summed up in two sentences from this article:

    “Oklahoma wasn’t open to creating Big 12 stability” per the Austin paper (since they have such good contacts in the Oklahoma administration – yeah, right.) In other words, it’s all Oklahoma’s fault.

    “Texas has no desire to part, alter or share any aspect of The Longhorn Network”. Of course, (per the Austin paper), this isn’t a reason to accuse Texas of not being “open to creating Big 12 stability”. Yeah, right.

    Bottom line, Texas is greedy and a bully, and a lot of the big 12 is sick of them.

  23. jdillydawg says: Sep 13, 2011 3:10 PM

    Can’t we just do away with the BCS? Who cares what conference any team plays for?

  24. salmon88 says: Sep 13, 2011 4:19 PM

    Would it not be ironic if A&M, OU, OSU, TT, and the rest won’t schedule Texas and they are relegated to scheduling Vermont, Montana state, Troy, UAB and the rest of the no names to show on the Longhorn Network? Hope it happens.

  25. bbeaman78 says: Sep 13, 2011 4:45 PM

    For all you bleeding heart short horn fans. Texas is the root of this whole thing. Yes we know you have 115 national titles in underwater basket weaving and badminton. Jeesh! You and Okie State fans preach the same crap. Football pays the bills for almost all of those sports. Last I checked OU still has more than both schools.

    Give me a break that Texas saved the Big 12 last year and they offered to share with A&M. What a crock. DeLoss Dodds isn’t senile nor conceited….right?!?

    Last I checked OU, UT, OSU, & A&M were out the door last year when Dan Beebe put his knee pads on for UT and pathetically begged them not to leave. Texas named their terms and those were pretty much that TEXAS can do what it wants and keep all the money.

    The Longhorn Network is a joke as well. OU has decided against it after seeing what an utter failure the network is. Way to block your alumni and fans from seeing the Rice game, b/c even cable providers don’t want to watch the Mack Brown show on constant replay sprinkled in with a loop of the 2005 National Champions Highlight show.

    The quotes from DeLoss Dodds explain a lot “Texas made the Big 12 a great conference, and it is a better conference because Texas is in it” 5-7 teams often do this.

    What a joke. Enjoy independence and being boycotted by every college in America. Enjoy scheduling San Angelo State, Texas State, North Texas, and UTEP. Also, isn’t UT Football in the crapper right now. I thought Mack Brown won a national championship when he beat BYU by 1 point at HOME. I may have seen a tear.

    Boomer Sooner! and Hello PAC 16 and California recruiting to add to the Texas 5 stars we already take from the Lone Star state. How do you recruit the top recruiting classes and go 5-7? Oh yeah it’s called coaching!

    Everything is bigger in Texas, including egos. In a quote from Mack Brown “Sometimes you gotta just get kicked right in the face…..”

  26. paulbrownsrevenge says: Sep 13, 2011 5:56 PM

    Why don’t the rest of the remaining schools in the BigXII just give Texas the boot? they could form another version of the Southwest conference. Add SMU, Houston and a few others. The Conference might be a little weaker, but that means the Original schools would become the top top dogs.T Boone Pickens would probably be all for it.

  27. be4bama says: Sep 13, 2011 6:04 PM

    @ BAMAsux….I can’t believe I’m agreeing with you. BTW. Why you hate on BAMA? Who’s your team?

  28. bamasucks says: Sep 13, 2011 6:12 PM

    Auburn. i created this name during the Cam Newton BS last year and kinda regret it. i guess i need to create another account or something.

    i don’t like bama , but i’d be the first to admit that my username is pretty lame.

  29. mb526 says: Sep 13, 2011 6:14 PM

    Texas just keep away from the Pac-12…we don’t need that noise.

  30. John Taylor says: Sep 13, 2011 6:20 PM

    @bamasucks: I sent an email to the NBC tech people, asking if there’s a way you could change your name without creating a new account. Will let you know when I hear back.


  31. southernpatriots says: Sep 13, 2011 6:21 PM

    bamasucks: May we suggest a few: plainsman; winningstreak; and championshipgold…you get the idea we are sure. Best on the new alias.

  32. be4bama says: Sep 13, 2011 6:23 PM

    Ok BAMAsux I’ll call you BS from now on…:-). Born a BAMA fan….went to school there during the mid70’s …during the BEAR days. I’m also a huge SEC fan….love all the teams (well maybe not UT). I loved watching Cam last year. Best QB I’ve ever seen…and I once thought Tebow would never be topped. Loved what Cam did last Sunday too. Hopefully the Cam haters will soon STHU. I hope AU wins every game every year but one. Unite 364 is my motto. And of course. ROLL TIDE ROLL

  33. southernpatriots says: Sep 13, 2011 6:44 PM

    JT: If you think the NBC tech folks may be in a good mood, please ask them to install edit buttons or capability to postings for the poster.

    That would help us older folks who did not grow up with computers or keyboards and whose minds don’t always communicate properly with our fingers. Thank you.

  34. wvucolumbus says: Sep 13, 2011 7:13 PM

    Texas is O’Bannion (Ben Affleck) from Dazed and Confused…..Thinks they’re the big deal and everyone else simply rolls their eyes and talks behind their back about what a tool they are.

    The reader earlier hit it right on the head. If OSU, Florida and Alabama share equally then why wouldn’t Texas.

  35. bamasucks says: Sep 13, 2011 7:52 PM

    thanks JT

  36. bamasucks says: Sep 13, 2011 8:00 PM


    i’ve always respected bama’s program….then the stupid internet(message boards) came along and ruined everything. 😉

    every school has their share of trash talking idiots that post on message boards like Scout and Rivals though, i guess.

    i just wish that the Bama/Auburn rivalry wasn’t as heated and ugly as it’s been for the last 10-12 years.

    the bammer/barner stuff really gets old. glad to see that there isn’t a lof it on CFT.

  37. John Taylor says: Sep 13, 2011 8:01 PM

    OK bamasucks, here ya go: if you go into your WordPress account, click on “Edit My Profile”. On that page — should be called “My Public Profile — you’ll see something that says “Display name publicly as”; all you have to do is change it from “bamasucks” to whatever you want. After you do that, click on the button down toward the bottom that says “Update Profile”. Do that, you should be good to go. If that doesn’t work, shoot me an email at johntaylorobr @ (obviously take out the spaces).

  38. be4bama says: Sep 13, 2011 8:37 PM

    I hear you loud an clear BS :-) I was serious when I told you that I’m an AU fan. I even own an AU SEC tee shirt sent to me from a dear AU friend to wear while I watched the BCS NC Game. Check our Toomers For Tuscaloos. They are helping to turn this love/hate thing to a love fest. . First it’s Harvey UpDyke then Tide4Tommers then 4/27/11 then Toomers For Tuscaloosa. The reason I asked u about hating was to see if er could always be respectful to one another.

  39. chippychonga says: Sep 13, 2011 10:15 PM

    Just a thought; If OU leaves the the conference they are in and then stops playing Texas in DALLAS, they will not recruit the Texas players that they now enjoy that keeps them in contention for a national title. They will have as many top 20 finishes as Kansas or Missouri or Oklahoma State. Texas keeps Oklahoma in the picture because they expose them year after year to Texas players by playing the Red River Shootout. Texas could play any team in Dallas or Houston and help the other teams prospects for a better recruiting class. When was the last time Arkansas put together great teams consistently? The Southwest Conference! OU go away.

  40. be4bama says: Sep 13, 2011 10:25 PM

    Why would anyone give me 3 downers for issuing a olive branch to BS. What’s wrong with mutual respect for each other? Why can’t we all play nice? The world has enough rude people already.
    Peace and Love to all of College Football’s passionate fans.
    PS. Respect your elders

  41. salmon88 says: Sep 13, 2011 10:30 PM

    Going with your scenario of OU owing UT everything by virtue of OU being able to play in Dallas vs UT how about this. Allow UT to play the no names and elevate them to the status of OU and you may have a point, until then you simply sound like a UT elitist.

  42. bamasucks says: Sep 13, 2011 11:08 PM

    thank you, JT. i really appreciate the help.

  43. bbeaman78 says: Sep 14, 2011 10:43 AM


    I see your logic and it is vallid, but doesn’t UT already get every 5 start recruit in Texas? Take notes from OU…..Sam Bradford 3 star from Oklahoma…….Jason White 3 Star from Oklahoma……Landry Jones 4 star from New Mexico……Dominique Whaley (No Stars) Walk-on starting RB for OU…..

    Yes we know Mack Brown can walk into any living room and supposedly people faint after the offer, but I am pretty sure no one will want to go to UT if their independent…….Where do kids want to go…OU PAC 16 or Alabama SEC 16 teams, b/c that will be big time football.

    Texas has a snow ball’s chance in hell to build a schedule that will get them an automatic BCS berth. ACC ??? FSU is looking at the SEC so go ahead and make that leap….Big 12 will lose it’s automatic BCS invite after OU and OSU leave….BIG 1o….won’t take any other Texas schools…….

    I say all this to say that Texas will fall in line and join Big Brother OU to the PAC16. If Texas decides to do something stupid as mentioned above and not go West, OU will still beat them with Texas recruits 5 stars or any otherwise…

    Oh yeah Texas honks learn the concept of sharing b/c the Longhorn Network will be the Longhorn/Red Raider Regional Network by next year!

  44. mogogo1 says: Sep 14, 2011 3:29 PM

    Texas sounds clueless. They don’t want to lose the Longhorn Network or share the profits? Well, then going independent is probably going to be their only option. The only reason the Big 12 allowed it is because they knew the conference would collapse if Texas left. Without that as leverage, nobody is going to let them have something that other conference members don’t have–it’d cause the same animosity that destroyed the Big 12.

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