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WVU AD asks fans not to wear F-bomb shirt

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So, uh, yeah. Someone at West Virginia’s season-opening game against Marshall wore a shirt that said “West F—ing Virginia”.

Unfortunately for you all, this here is a family site, and I cannot display the image of the aforementioned attire — which can be found at your local department store next to the tuxedo shirts and across from the Dale Earnhardt Jr. memorabilia — nor can I really link to it.

Thankfully, there is an alternative.

But I digress…

In light of the incident, WVU athletic director Oliver Luck has sent out a letter asking that all fans who attend the Mountaineers’ next home game against LSU be on their best behavior.

Here it is:

Mountaineer fans:

During the opening game of the 2011 WVU football season, one of the ESPN cameras showed a young man wearing a blue t-shirt with “West F##### Virginia” on the chest. Based on the TV rating of the game, this picture was seen by at least a few million people around the country. I think you would agree with me that this is not the image of our University and our state that we want to promote.

I would like to ask you to help me convince people who are wearing these t-shirts to reconsider their choice of attire. I recognize that the First Amendment protects free speech, and as a lawyer, I am more than familiar with the decision of the United States Supreme Court in the landmark 1971 case, Cohen vs. California, which is the law of the land regarding public institutions (like WVU) and protected speech. But as my dad used to tell me, β€˜just because it is legal does not mean it is right.’ And I certainly believe that people wearing these offending t-shirts at Mountaineer games, or anywhere else, for that matter, are damaging the reputation of our state and its flagship institution of higher learning.

I would like to request that if you see someone wearing one of these t-shirts that you politely ask him or her to change or to cover it up. Even wearing it inside-out would be an improvement. As you know, we have a big home football game against LSU coming up next Saturday and we would like to present a more favorable image to the millions of football fans from around the country who will be watching the game. Be polite, be courteous, be friendly-but do speak up.

Thank you for your support of the Mountaineers!

In a completely unrelated story, a source close to the situation has informed me that the beer sales at Mountaineer Field are going just swimmingly, thank you.

But in a more directly related, serious tone, all eyes could very well be the WVU-LSU game on Sept. 24. The Big East recently noted that ESPN will exercise its option for a six-day window to announce the specific network (ABC, ESPN, ESPN2) and time for the matchup, meaning it could be the featured game for Saturday Night Football if both LSU and WVU win this weekend.

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48 Responses to “WVU AD asks fans not to wear F-bomb shirt”
  1. jaggedmark says: Sep 13, 2011 5:54 PM

    “West F***ing Virginia?”

    Shouldn’t it say, “F**K West Virgnia?

  2. bamasucks says: Sep 13, 2011 6:06 PM

    i really, really hope that these couch burning clowns aren’t invited to join the SEC.

  3. WingT says: Sep 13, 2011 6:06 PM

    Lets see, they can’t burn couches anymore and now Oliver Luck is imposing a new dress code and will not allow the wearing of the standard issued student T Shirt.

    I can’t wait to see what new clever thing the students at West “by gawd” Virginia come up with for the LSU game

  4. cubano76 says: Sep 13, 2011 6:53 PM

    C’mon Mr. Luck, those are the only three words the students at that school know!

  5. parkcityute says: Sep 13, 2011 7:36 PM

    I volunteered near that area a summer a few years ago. Many children had rotted front teeth. I asked the doctor I was volunteering with “why?” He informed me that the children’s mothers would fill the baby bottles with Mountain Dew and the children would drink this all day long and fall asleep with the Mountain Dew bottles in their mouths.

    That shirt ought to look very good on televised football games, you know sort of like the John 3:16 sign?

  6. southernpatriots says: Sep 13, 2011 7:41 PM

    WingT: Don’t give them any ideas. I can see the Tiger fans shouting, Tiger Bait and WVA fans shouting back @*&! Tiger Bait.

    parkcityute: Like the John 3:16 sign? What a great contrast.

  7. teke184 says: Sep 13, 2011 8:02 PM

    I’m sorry to pile on, but of all the things that WVU can ask of their fans, they only mention the “West F*cking Virginia” shirts?

    This is from a fanbase that sets couches on fire to celebrate big victories, albeit that is now illegal within the state.

    Granted, LSU fans like myself don’t have a lot of room to talk given the behavior of some of our fans. During the 2007 season alone, some Tiger fans handed out Tebow’s phone number, which quickly got overrun with messages, and the entire student section got a VERY loud “F*CK YOU SPURRIER” chant out on national TV after Darth Visor threw a challenge flag on an LSU TD.

  8. pabstman says: Sep 13, 2011 8:25 PM

    Ahhh, I see who throws stones. Hmmm and so many glass houses.

    So we burn couches, A&M burns a giant pile of wood that has lead to deaths…got it. Sorry to use A&M, it’s just one and the first I thought of.

    People constantly insinuate people of Appalachia as being inbred and ignorant…guess if we decided to stop mining, ya’ll wouldn’t mind not having electricity. At least that way ya’ll couldn’t come on here and bite the hand that keeps ya’ll’s lights on.

    It’s all fun and games, till the power goes out πŸ˜‰

  9. floridacock says: Sep 13, 2011 8:35 PM

    It’s your stadium, don’t let them in

  10. bamasucks says: Sep 13, 2011 8:48 PM

    it’s not about Appalachia. it’s about how visiting fans are treated at your stadium. as a West Virgina fan/alum, i’m sure that you have to know what i’m talking about.

  11. burntorangehorn says: Sep 13, 2011 9:00 PM

    I went to the Steelers @ Ravens game Sunday, and saw several “F*CK PITTSBURGH” shirts.

    Seriously, people in this region have no idea how to conduct themselves at football games. WVU would fit in perfectly in the SEC.

  12. Deb says: Sep 13, 2011 9:18 PM

    @burntorangehorn …

    I trust you were appropriately outraged by those nasty Baltimore fans and their unsportsmanlike behavior toward my Steelers. And I’m sure you regret that nasty jibe at the ladies and gentlemen of the SEC.

    @parkcityute …

    Really now … Mountain Dew contains more caffeine than coffee and I doubt babies were drifting off to sleep sucking on that in their bottles. Someone was pulling your leg.

  13. Deb says: Sep 13, 2011 9:21 PM

    This little episode reminds me of an anecdote I once read in an autobiography of newsman Dan Rather. He went to college at Sam Houston State. The school was originally named Sam Houston Institute of Technology … until school administrators saw it abbreviated on student t-shirts.

  14. awelter23 says: Sep 13, 2011 9:34 PM

    You see shirts with profanity at every single school in the nation, except for maybe Utah or BYU. Go to a Wisconsin Badger game, you’ll see F*ck Em’ Bucky shirts EVERYWHERE. Or the F*ck you, Eat Sh*t chants between sections of the student section. Hell here at Winona State in Minnesota most of the shirts either promote binge drinking or have profanity on them and this is a DII school… it’s the nature of college kids, not just college kids in a particular region. Look at what those Alabama fans did to Auburn’s trees… now that is deplorable. I think people will get over seeing or hearing the word F*ck.

  15. burntorangehorn says: Sep 13, 2011 10:17 PM

    Deb says:
    Sep 13, 2011 9:18 PM
    @burntorangehorn …

    I trust you were appropriately outraged by those nasty Baltimore fans and their unsportsmanlike behavior toward my Steelers. And I’m sure you regret that nasty jibe at the ladies and gentlemen of the SEC.
    I was indeed outraged at the bad apples at Baltimore, although it was not unexpected. While waiting in line to get frisked, a younger guy (maybe 25) was yelling at old men in Steelers gear in neighboring lines, spouting such instant classics as, “Hey old man, why don’t you go home and suck a d*ck? What a c*cksucker!” and “I can’t believe this *sshole, coming into our house. What an ugly f*cking f*ggot!” This was fairly similar to the behavior I saw when I went to see the Titans beat the Ravens and wore my Vince Young jersey. I don’t like the Ravens or Steelers, and generally find both fanbases insufferable, but I think Ravens fans are trying to give Oakland and Philly runs for their money. What’s ridiculous is that these people are talking trash and beating their chests about contests and accomplishments in which they, as fans, play absolutely zero role.

    I prefer a more civilized form of football, thank you.

  16. southernpatriots says: Sep 13, 2011 10:36 PM

    burntorangehorn: You have just articulated why we do not read or post on PFT, and do here on CFT, a more civilized form….

  17. southernpatriots says: Sep 13, 2011 10:46 PM

    @ Deb: Doctors say that drinking the Mountain
    Dew daily, the babies will adjust to it. Mainlining cafeine and sugar. Great for babies? Not.

    Good Morning America–“A Hidden America: Children of the Mountains”– visited and found they even put Mountain Dew in baby bottles. Some 2-year olds have 12 cavities in their baby teeth. They discovered an 11-year old Dew-drinker boy who had been drinking Dew since 3 and had no healthy teeth in his mouth.

    It could be now that the students were told not to wear the shirts that there will be a huge backlash.

  18. halo81 says: Sep 13, 2011 11:36 PM

    Really? You just told the freaking Mountain Dew, West Virginia baby story and believed it?

    Your IQ was lower than everyone’s in WV.

    The shirt is tits. I’m buying one.

  19. halo81 says: Sep 13, 2011 11:43 PM

    @burntorangehorn …

    Giving Philly and Oakland fans a run for their money?

    Bro, I’ve never been to Oakland, but Ravens and Skins fans have overtaken Eagles fans. It’s tame at Lincoln Financial now. I mean tame.

    To the point now where I don’t even hear swearing or even messing with other fans at games anymore. Not even the fun stuff like just booing someone for wearing another team’s jersey (so they know they’re safe).

    Eagle’s fans have gotten soft.

    Ravens and Skins? Ravens fans are foul mouthed and disgusting and not getting jumped at a Skins game is just about impossible. Groups of them gang up on you down there and act like idiots.

    Back in the days of the Vet and the 700 Level, wow…Eagles fans were BRUTAL. Not so much now.

    Actually much worse at a Phillies game.

  20. inconsonance says: Sep 14, 2011 12:02 AM

    I’ve been asked a number of times why I believe genocide and eugenics to be the only things that can fix what ails our species. Next time, I’m going to recommend that they read this article’s comments and defy them to say that I’m wrong.

    It’s so easy to sit on your ass, presume that the stereotypes are true, and allow your interactions with individuals to color your opinion of the whole. It’s also bad form, and indicative of an inability to form a cogent thought of your own accord. In essence, you’re all more likely to have heads full of dirty dishwater than a functioning brain.

    All of you who’ve taken time out of your busy schedules to bash WV and its people are little more than blowjobs that should have been. If you’d all come down with AIDS and a dozen co-morbid diseases, each more debilitating than the last, it would serve you right and make me giggle like a schoolgirl. I cannot adequately articulate just how intensely I loathe people who speak from positions of pure ignorance, but the above is close enough.

    In closing, I’ve lived in WV my entire life, and I’d sooner die than live elsewhere. This state, its people, and the slower pace of life are things I dearly love, and anyone who sees fit to denigrate them is surely no more than a waste of oxygen. If you take umbrage with the state, the people, the students at WVU (a number of which are from out of state, not that you can comprehend such a concept), or anything I’ve said in defense of the former, fuck you. Hard. In the face.

    Afterthought: southernpatriots – No one gives a good goddamn about how many old morons gathered in a backyard, nor do they care what foods you gorged on. You’re wasting database space and you’re wasting the time of anyone dumb enough to read your musings. You – and this applies to all 50,213 of you – are an annoyance at best, and it would sure be nice to not have to see all your “we” bullshit in every single comment thread.

  21. southyank7 says: Sep 14, 2011 12:17 AM

    I’d like to see some of you people travel to some of the backwoods places in other states like Fl, AL, LA, TENN, KY, ARK, etc… there are plenty of 1 stop light redneck towns in just about every state of USA. Where livestock are scared & the women are hairy

  22. ihateannouncers says: Sep 14, 2011 1:15 AM

    there are plenty of 1 stop light redneck towns in just about every state of USA…
    Exactly!!! It’s part of what made this country great. And this type of student activity goes on everywhere!!! If your school has a hated rival, then some of your students are wearing a F#@k (insert rival here) tee shirt. I blame the camera truck for putting the kid on the air. Oliver Luck needs to relax. College students wearing vulgar tee shirt?? Shocking…

  23. southernpatriots says: Sep 14, 2011 5:51 AM

    inconsonance: When West Virginia comes down to Baton Rouge, you are cordially invited to a great Cajun and smoked meats feast either at the gates of LSU, tailgating, or a good restaurant.

    We will show you Southern and Cajun hospitality and maybe you will get to know us and other fans. Our family will work with LSU staff and our younger generations who are students, so we can give you a guided tour and think you will enjoy the food and people. We think you may love the food as recently the Oregon fans did.

    Have a great day and Peace!

  24. denisceo says: Sep 14, 2011 8:54 AM

    I love West Virginia football! I remember those shirts when Rutgers played West Virginia for first place a few years back. I got a laugh out of it. I would not necessary point the finger at the students for wearing those shirts, I would first advice the networks or television crew not to show the shirts. First they wanna sell tickets to the games, now there wanna control ur attire to the game. There are too many rules.. I thought live programing were on a tape delays, where are the producers?

  25. southernpatriots says: Sep 14, 2011 9:20 AM

    denisceo: You are a good fan. There was a move a few years ago at LSU that whatever the administration said, whatever they seemed to prefer or suggest, the students would do the extreme opposite. Young people are similar, no matter where they are. They may do the same at West Virginia.

    The networks are running multiple cameras (sometimes 12 to 16 monitors with different angles and shots). The location director is monitoring the shots and should cut away or not even go to a shot which has such on it. The school and/or students will not be fined by the FCC, it will be the network and/or affiliate tv stations.

    It is definitely their responsibility for the video that goes out over the airwaves, just as you so accurately stated. Perhaps the Sports Information department or assistant AD at West Virginia can speak to the on site broadcast director and remind him/her of this and about the potential for t-shirt slogans/messages, etc.

    Such was done at LSU a few years back and the shots of the student’s section were long shots. Finally, the students who wanted their family and friends see them on tv, took off their shirts and/or turned them inside out, as AD Luck suggests in this present situation. The situation was diffused by the students themselves. That is probably the best way to handle this kind of matter.

  26. Romulus says: Sep 14, 2011 10:05 AM

    the SEC does not deserve WVU because they do not respect the school in spite of their success or tradition. It is on the Pennsylvania border definitely not in the south. LSU fans, you have nothing on WFV. Been to both stadiums and LSU fans you have nothing WFV!

  27. tigersgeaux says: Sep 14, 2011 10:36 AM

    Romulus: Your knowledge of historical geography is very lacking. Don’t know about fan comparison, but do know the LSU Tigers will beat ’em at their home.

    WVU would have to appeal to the SEC for membership. They would need to originate the discussion. The SEC will not go seeking them out. SEC President Slive has made that clear. The SEC is not seeking expansion. Other schools want to get in.

  28. cubano76 says: Sep 14, 2011 12:01 PM

    @ inconsonance

    Whoa there big guy (or girl)! We’re all just having some fun here. Busting on other schools and their fans (and yes their states) is part of what makes this site (CFT) great.

    southernpatriots is one of the most classy people to post on this site. Also, can we settle down with the use of all those big wordsin your post? I finding it hard to do my job today, while having to look up these words in the dictionary. :)

    Now get back on your doublewide porch, and git back to playing your banjo! (KIDDING, I’M JUST KIDDING!)

  29. southernpatriots says: Sep 14, 2011 12:31 PM

    cubano76: Thank you for your kindness. We love your alias. I have not ever revealed this on CFT, but we love going to Cuba, and my(our) brother and his wife and some of the remaining family members have been there numerous times working to bring needed medicines and help, especially to those precious people (most especially the children) in the Eastern Provinces.

    My(our) brother was tortured a few years ago for 16 hours before being released because he slipped away from the government men who were charged to shadow him.

    Our brother wants to return this Christmas season (he is recovering from open heart surgery and by-passes and feels he will ready then). We will be bringing a huge number of ingredients hidden in all our luggages to make a huge paella for all the kids (and adults too!) who have never had one, along with much needed medical supplies, black nylon and cotton thread (that was asked for by all the ladies!) and other supplies.

  30. Deb says: Sep 14, 2011 12:40 PM

    @inconsonance …

    Excuse me, but I’m regularly calling out jackasses posting vicious, mean-spirited stereotypes of Southern history and lifestyles, but I’ve never see you offering one syllable to deter them in their bigotry. Suddenly you pop up on here and start telling all these commenters to f*** themselves hard in the face? The worst comment on this thread is an old wive’s tale about babies drinking Mountain Dew. So I have a better idea: Why don’t you take a bar of soap and shove down your throat?

    We’ve managed to create a community of football fans who enjoy one another’s company, and southernpatriots–which is a family of fans posting under one handle, thus the “we”–is a valuable member of that community. You don’t speak for the whole in saying we’re not interested in what they have to say. We are. And they manage to say it with kindness, humor, and a keen understanding of college football.

    If you want to rant like a vulgar lunatic, direct it to the WVU administrator who made a mountain out of a molehill. Or direct it to people who actually insult West Virginia. Or try having the balls to lash out at people who insult the intellect of Southerners and country people in general … like the always moronic southyank7. But don’t take out your regional self-hatred on people who haven’t done a bloody thing to you or to West Virginia.

  31. wvufanforever says: Sep 14, 2011 12:59 PM

    Funny, the only one I saw was worn by a porch monkey that probably only came there to sell drugs or kill some one. I have lived in WV for many years and moved 20 yrs ago to be closer to my family. Those are the hardesd working people I have ever met in my life. I can bet most there have gardens and full time jobs and are prepared if bad weather hits because they can the food they raise. All you outsiders who don’t know us, keep your trash to yourself. Go back to your ghetto thug cities. I prefer white hard working people to the likes of you anyday!! West Virginia is a great place with awesome people!! They produce most of the coal that keeps the lights on in most of the United States. What would you do without the ability to keep your children warm or feed them? We are all Americans and better work together instead of ripping each other apart. The rest of the world is trying to do that. Better pull together before its too late.

  32. brutusbuckeye2011 says: Sep 14, 2011 12:59 PM

    What ever happened to sportsmanship and having β€œclass?” Vulgar t-shirts, chants and trash talk should not be condoned. Why do so many find it necessary to attack people based on where they live? Let’s see? If you are from Appalachia you are a hillbilly. If you are from the Deep South you are a red neck. If you are from the West Coast you are gay. NJ means you are in the Mafia. The Mid-West means you are a hick. Looks like no matter where you are from some people on this blog will find a reason to insult you. I’m from Ohio – Go for it and say something rude.

  33. southernpatriots says: Sep 14, 2011 1:12 PM

    brutusbuckeye2011 and all buckeyes:

    Let us be the first to say in this thread as we have stated in numerous previous threads concerning Tressel, players, etc.:

    Ohio is a great state. tOSU is a great research university and we all are enriched by its excellence. We have been there. We know.

    We always hope to and are happy when we are able to defeat tOSU football, basketball (this is not possible for us, at least for quite a while), baseball, etc. tOSU has been the cream of the Big 10 for a long time. With Nebraska and traditional Big 10 teams building, these teams may give tOSU some competition, this year and in the years to come.

  34. mhalt99 says: Sep 14, 2011 1:24 PM

    A lot of the pot calling the kettle black going on.

    I have seen plenty of shirts the say F#*k Miami that are sold at Florida State and Florida(actually ranked pretty high academically). I also know they sell shirts like this for big games across the country. To single out one school is a joke without looking a little deeper.

    WVU fans are a little crazy….but they don’t have much else to root for in a state without any pro sports teams. At least the head coach isn’t hiding a gun in his personal safe that was used in a shooting…cough cough….Tom Osbourne/Nebraska.

  35. Deb says: Sep 14, 2011 1:29 PM

    I’ve never seen anyone posting negative comments on people from Ohio or any other region. But every time the SEC wins a ballgame, plenty of OSU fans post dozens of column inches of stereotypical nonsense about how stupid, backward, and bigoted Southerners are. Guess that’s why I’m tired of hearing all this whining from West Virginians. I have yet to see anything on this thread directed to them that compares to the vicious comments directed at Southerners over the years I’ve been posting here. And I don’t recall any of them being concerned about sportsmanship and class then.

  36. ihateannouncers says: Sep 14, 2011 3:12 PM

    Wow…some folks need to back off a little. This site and this and all sports are supposed to be about enjoyable good natured banter and friendly competition. If you can’t drink a (beverage of your choice) with your most hated rival after you win OR lose a game then I think you are missing the point of being a sports fan in general. I wasn’t happy walking out of the U of Phoenix Stadium when my Buckeyes got trounced by the Florida in the National Championship Game, but I was ok with talking to and congratulating most of the Gator fans that weren’t A-holes about winning. (No southern pats I didn’t go the following year because I had an bad feeling about the Tigers). I was ecstatic walking out of Heinz Field when my Steelers beat Baltimore in the AFC Championship Game, and shook hands with some of the Ravens who were being treated poorly by some A-hole Steeler fans. Every team has their share of idiots who try to ruin the experience for the rest of us. Bringing out racial 0r bigoted slurs just to defend your team or region of the country is embarrassing and F-Bombing fans in opposing jerseys makes you all look small. If you can’t win or lose with class, then don’t go to the games and don’t come on this site. Now can we please get back to making fun of the NCAA….

  37. Deb says: Sep 14, 2011 4:03 PM

    Hello, ihateannouncers …

    Well said. I’m always up for making fun of the NCAA. And Auburn fans πŸ˜‰ Of course, I won’t let anyone else make fun of them because they’re in the SEC. I once edited a book on West Virginia. Sounded like the most beautiful place in the world. Have wanted to visit ever since.

    It was so nice getting to watch Alabama’s great defense Saturday. Had expected to see great defensive football this weekend …. though I thought most of that would come on Sunday … and thought our defense would at least deliver one or two of the hits. But noooooo ….

    On the bright side, though, our season can only get better πŸ˜€

  38. ihateannouncers says: Sep 14, 2011 7:01 PM

    Thanks Deb,

    Sunday was a painful experience. It seemed one team was at playoff intesity and one was still feeling good about themselves for beating up on the Eagles in preseason. Assuming that will not be the case on 11/6. Looking forward to taking it out on Seattle.
    West Virginia is one of 50 great states to visit in this country. I work on the road for half the year and have been to all but 5 states and am amazed at how ignoramuses can bash any of them. Every state like every team has their share but you don’t hold it against the entire group.


    Don’t get too inflated about beating PSU. They are good but not as good as you are going to face in conference. (Always pains me to say that).

  39. Deb says: Sep 14, 2011 10:07 PM

    @ihateannouncers …

    I never get inflated about beating anyone until the last game of the year is played :)

    As for Seattle … I’m taking nothing for granted. Any given Sunday, remember? If we win, we darn well should have won. Won’t make up for last week’s debacle.

  40. ihateannouncers says: Sep 15, 2011 2:30 AM


    Your are absolutely right, but I expect a full effort from this group sunday because of the total embarrassment they endured in Baltimore. Nothing short of beating Baltimore in November as bad as they beat us and beating them again in the playoffs will make up for last week.

  41. waynefontes says: Sep 15, 2011 9:05 AM

    Nothing wrong with burning a couch to celebrate. As long as it’s your couch.

    And while I’m not a WVU grad, I burned a couch one time in celebration while my old roommate hacked it with a machete (much more fun than leaving it on the road, it was a piece of junk at that point). It was in Myrtle Beach, but I do have a good friend who is a WVU grad.

    She graduated a few years ago, and would tell me about all the madness there – I’ve never been to Morgantown.

    That LSU-WVU game is going to be insane.

    Although I still can’t believe they lost to a bad Pitt team at home when all they had to was win and they’d be in the championship game.. instead LSU got to get in even after losing to Arkansas.

    Isn’t Florio from West Virginia? He may not like the snide tuxedo shirt reference.

    “The Dancing Outlaw” Jesco White is still one of the more interesting documentaries I’ve ever seen.

  42. southernpatriots says: Sep 15, 2011 9:35 AM

    waynefontes: Alot of friends and fellow alums and fans of LSU will be making the trip to Morgantown. We can’t take the long trip or elevation so we’ll keep the home fires burning.

    We aren’t looking to WVA yet, we have Mississippi State tonight. This is a strange night game on Thursday night. Will be broadcast. LSU has won the past 11? years (meetings), but that means nothing here in the SEC West. LSU must NOT be overlooking Mississippi State as they have Arkansas so many years. One game at a time, just like one day at a time…smile.

    We made fresh blueberry bran muffins with fresh picked blueberries from our bushes this morning. We brought them to the teachers and staff at our local school to encourage them. With good Community Coffee (official state coffee of Louisiana), what a good start to a day!

    Have a wonderful and blessed day!

  43. 1wvsaintsfan says: Sep 15, 2011 11:14 AM

    My excellent WVU education got me a great job in New Orleans <3. One day at work in New Orleans I saw a group of young men (US Vets) wearing WVU shirts. I asked them if they were WVU alum and they said no, but when WVU came to the Sugar Bowl they put on their LSU shirts and traded with WVU people…thats how they got shirts from other schools LOL. Thats just plain and simple class, and most WV and LA people are the same way. Too bad about the trolls and haters on here, but most of these types don't go out in public much anyway, too busy under their bridges spewing hate on message boards. Looking forward to a great game, and I'll be there in person, YAY!!!

  44. dkhhuey says: Sep 15, 2011 12:57 PM

    West by-gawd is quite an interesting place. Beautiful in one mile stretch and then disgustingly ugly the next because of the mines and its by products. The people seem nice on the surface but there is always a feeling that you’re an outsider and things could change in a hurry so tread lightly. Because of my liberal interpretation of the speed limits there, I had the displeasure of meeting one of their finest as well – he made Buford T. Justice look like a Harvard elitist – I could tell by the big a$$ mustard stain on his shirt that I had interrupted lunch. My brother’s second wife was from Grafton and I spent some time there – again, quite an interesting place in both good and frightening way. Next week I’ll be in Wheeling for a weekend golf adventure at Oglebay – which is quite beautiful.

    I can honestly say that some stereotypes do spring out of reality and some do not – West Virginia is probably one of the best examples of that. Fantastic in some places – Deliverance invoking in others! I’m just hoping I don’t run into Sheriff Mustard Stain this trip!!!

    Okay – I’ll fess up – I do have a F@#$ Michigan shirt!!! I’m a Buckeye for god sake – I was born wearing it!!!

    @southernpats – stay classy! I still can’t understand how you all can stand the heat and humidity down there, and I live in Arizona!!!

  45. southernpatriots says: Sep 15, 2011 2:14 PM

    dkhhuey: You are right. WVA is a beautiful area which may have inspired the writer of America the Beautiful. In one area we worked a few years ago during the swine flu and pneumonia outreak there, we discovered an area which we had on a postcard which had 7 mountains which were absolutely beautiful–awe inspiring.

    Mining companies conducted a huge amount of strip mining continuing for years until 6 mountain tops were leveled and only one mountain top remained. The blastings of the mountain tops filled the air with particulates of various minerals which affected the children and elderly the most. The state finally won an injuction to stop farther strip mining in that area.

    Together with the precious people there being guarded toward all outsiders and also thinking that their normal folk remedies would cure their children and grandchildren resulted in many children suffering pneumonia and near death experiences and some sadly perished.

    We worked with dentists and physicians from eastern Kentucky, northeastern Tennessee, and central Kentucky. These men and women dedicated their fortunes and lives to helping these precious people. Most had worked in the regions for over 20 years.

    One physician from India said he saw greater poverty in Central Appalachia than he experienced growing up in India. That made us so sad. This is America! The work there takes such an emotional toll…sometimes as we worked with the children and elderly, transporting them to medical care, we choked back tears and kept them bottled up until we were alone at night.

    If we were a little younger and in better health we would be there now, working with those who have dedicated their lives to helping the people and getting to Morgantown to be at the game.

    Tropical storm Lee not only flooded us but brought us lower temps and afterward less humidity for about a week. It is now returning to normal….ugh. This high heat and humidity is an asset to the LSU football team. They practice in it–2 a days, and running, etc. When they get in shape here, it is championship shape and takes them into the 3rd quarters of games much fresher than many opponents.

    At our age, we try to stay out of the 3 – 6 pm heat, try to arise early in the morning and put in a full day by noon. It is not easy when it is in the high 90s or low 100s with 70 – 80 percent relative humidity. It is something you get somewhat used to but learn wisdom on how to deal with it as your hair turns gray and white…ha.

  46. bikerhal says: Sep 16, 2011 9:31 AM

    I agree with the flavor in this thread and on the boards brought by posters like Deb and Southernpatriots, et al. Good sportsmanship is just as (if not more) important to me than the outcome of the game. I enjoy the sport less when you have trash talking, and complement the positive postings.

    I was born in Mississippi, raised in New Orleans, and presently live in North Carolina. I have seen the good and the bad in all places. I say look for the good and praise it. I was not-so-proud of the LSU fans mocking the Mississippi State “this is our state” slogan. To me that is rude, but I am probably in the minority for thinking that.

  47. Deb says: Sep 17, 2011 6:20 PM

    @bikerhal …

    Thanks so much!

  48. southernpatriots says: Sep 17, 2011 7:55 PM

    bikerhal: Merci beaucoup!

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