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SEC presidents endorse informal agreement with Mizzou


Well, this is certainly getting interesting.  And utterly maddening.

On the same day reports from the area surfaced that an offer of SEC membership was on the table for Missouri — an offer subsequently denied by the conference — and the same school announced a Board of Curators meeting for Thursday that may or may not involve a lengthy discussion on athletics, another report has connected the current Big 12 school with the home of the five-time defending BcS champs in football.

Citing two people familiar with the discussions, the Birmingham News reports that Mizzou will join the SEC barring any new developments.  The paper writes that “a majority of presidents have endorsed the informal agreement.”

If the report is accurate, Mizzou would become the 14th member of the current 12-school SEC, with Texas A&M becoming the 13th once Baylor and their ilk stops nipping at their heels.  The conference’s current two-division setup would be revamped, with the two new schools settling in the West and Auburn moving to the East.  Thus, the new divisional lineup would look as follows:


Mississippi State
Texas A&M


South Carolina

The conference would also undoubtedly go from eight conference games to at least nine.  Obviously six of those games would be played against division opponents and, with Auburn moving from the same division as Alabama, at least one cross-division “rivalry” game would have to be protected and played annually in order to avoid civil unrest in the state of Alabama.

A significant downside is that the Iron Bowl would be moved from the end of the regular season to earlier in the year in order to prevent the possibility of the two teams meeting in back-to-back weekends — the Iron Bowl followed by the SEC championship game.  When the Big Ten went to two six-team divisions they placed Ohio State and Michigan in two separate and laughably-named divisions but kept The Game as the regular season finale.  Why the SEC reportedly feels they couldn’t follow the Big Ten’s lead on a situation that may come into play once a decade, if not longer, is unknown.

Of course, this is all predicated on Mizzou actually moving on from a conference that may not be as dead as most everyone assumes.  After the past couple of weeks, who the hell really knows anymore.

UPDATED 8:01 p.m. ET: And just like with the original report that had an offer on the table for Missouri from the SEC, the conference has issued a statement denying that there is an informal agreement with the school.

“The Southeastern Conference has not agreed, formally or informally, to accept any institution other than Texas A&M and there have not been conference discussions regarding changes in divisional alignment.”

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58 Responses to “SEC presidents endorse informal agreement with Mizzou”
  1. WingT says: Sep 20, 2011 7:34 PM

    I like it !

    roll tide

  2. blitz4848 says: Sep 20, 2011 7:37 PM

    Keep your ear to the ground—strong rumors have the SEC at 16 by Friday so you better put those new conference realignments in “pencil.”

  3. auburntigers34 says: Sep 20, 2011 7:40 PM

    i like it too!

    War Eagle

  4. WingT says: Sep 20, 2011 7:41 PM

    Blitz, what do you hear? Which Universities are most likely to join?

  5. southernpatriots says: Sep 20, 2011 7:41 PM

    Deb: We love you. We appreciate you. For you we are sorry. For us, we are happy. Just like WingT, we say, “We like it!” but Geaux Tigers! ha!!!!!

    This is what all the sources from the hallowed grounds of the SEC in Birmingham were telling us from the beginning. The SEC wanted Missouri, but Missouri needed to make the plea and presentation expressing their desire to join the SEC and why. They did, the process is now is awaiting developments of the Big ??? and Missouri completing the process of withdrawal with no incumberances such as legal issues (pending or threatened law suits).

  6. honolulublue says: Sep 20, 2011 7:42 PM

    The Big Ten better get cracking or it will be left in the dust.

  7. WingT says: Sep 20, 2011 7:43 PM

    What’s the chances that the Big Ten reconsiders Mizzou?

  8. phelbin says: Sep 20, 2011 7:46 PM

    I’m also interested to know which other schools are on their radar. They apparently rejected West Virginia.

  9. thefiesty1 says: Sep 20, 2011 7:53 PM

    That’s great. So much for Ok and Texas attempting to keep their options open for saving the Big XII. Great move on the part of the best conference in football.

  10. jjdstl01 says: Sep 20, 2011 7:57 PM

    Missouri ?

    There goes the neighborhood !

  11. kcrobert10 says: Sep 20, 2011 7:58 PM

    Reports say big 10 told mizzou they would only consider them on a Jr membership. Another slap in the face just keep waiting for the golden domers who haven’t done anything for over a decade. Meanwhile we will be in the best football conference in America and get to stay tied to our Texas recuiting base. Hate to lose boarder war with Kansas but we now have ark,. Wouldn’t it be intresting if they picked up ku to though. Ku being anti southern and all.

  12. blitz4848 says: Sep 20, 2011 8:06 PM

    Still “IN PLAY” for the SEC …..

    1. Clemson
    2. FSU
    3. Oklahoma ( a lot happening behind the scenes)
    4. Oklahoma St ( tag a long with OU )
    5. West Virginia ( only as LAST option)

    Texas A&M is IN and Missouri is now a definite
    “MAYBE” …………

    Kansas & Kansas St bring NOTHING to the table for the SEC…that’s just the facts…………..

  13. WingT says: Sep 20, 2011 8:23 PM

    grab your Bud Lite, here we go :)

  14. gatorcheme says: Sep 20, 2011 9:24 PM

    I wouldn’t mind seeing FSU. Even with the increased ‘penalty’ for ditching the ACC, they could do it. Clemson pockets may not be as deep.

    Mizzou? I like it. Deb won’t know who to cheer for when they play ‘bama.

    What about USF? It’s not a big school, but they’ve accomplished a lot for such a young program. Can they stretch it to the next level?

  15. materialman80 says: Sep 20, 2011 9:32 PM

    I would like to see Missouri join the SEC. They would have to up their game to compete, but they could get there.

  16. Deb says: Sep 20, 2011 9:36 PM

    I’ll know who to cheer for when they play Bama:

    ROLL TIDE!!!! Blood is thicker than parchment.

    And I’ll know where to send the checks:

    MIZZOU. Got to keep the alma mater strong :)

    Well, southernpatriots, after some of the comments I’ve seen from West Virginia, I’m just as happy to dodge that bullet. Right now my main concern is preserving the Iron Bowl and the Third Saturday in October with Tennessee. Seems to me the conference should be able to do whatever it wants and work out what’s necessary to keep those rivalries intact.

    @blitz …

    Any chance of getting back GaTech???

  17. southernpatriots says: Sep 20, 2011 9:51 PM

    Deb: That ball is in Georgia Tech’s court. They will have to decide if they want to shoot or pass it. Same is true for Jimbo’s school.

  18. Deb says: Sep 20, 2011 9:57 PM

    Oh I want GaTech. If we could pick up A&M, Missouri, and GaTech, we’d have three additional AAU schools, television markets in Texas and the Midwest, and bring home a historic SEC powerhouse. And we’d still be within the boundaries of states that serve grits on their breakfast menus!

  19. Deb says: Sep 20, 2011 9:59 PM

    If we picked up FSU, too, we’d have our 16, Auburn could stay in the West, and WVU would be permanently off the table. 😀

  20. centexhorn says: Sep 20, 2011 10:09 PM

    I don’t believe anything anymore.

  21. kcrobert10 says: Sep 20, 2011 10:14 PM

    I don’t think the sec is after in state teams. In fact I’m sure sc, ga, fl and Lsu are banded together to prevent that. Oklahoma ok st makes a lot of since.

  22. Deb says: Sep 20, 2011 10:25 PM

    @kcrobert10 …

    Oklahoma and Oklahoma State are not in the South. That’s ridiculous. I’d like to see us make geographically intelligent moves. Our strength comes in part from our geographic concentration.

    No, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, and LSU don’t want the SEC to have two teams in their states. But Alabama, Mississippi, and Tennessee have two teams in their states. Sometimes you have to take one for the good of the conference. Maybe a couple of those schools need to man up.

  23. paulbrownsrevenge says: Sep 20, 2011 10:29 PM

    All of this is very similar to a bunch off rats getting off a ship. They don’t know exactly where they’re going, or if it will be better or worse. It’s kind of sad, these knee-jerk reactions are not well thought out, and therefore will probably be bad for college football and the fans. Especially those who embrace tradition.

  24. kcrobert10 says: Sep 20, 2011 10:38 PM

    Deb I agree they are not traditional south schools or areas but niether is west Virginia. I know u have said u don’t like them and it don’t surprise me they are anti-southern that’s how the state came into being. Anyway the Oklahoma schools do make since balances the conf east to west increases the footprint.

  25. centexhorn says: Sep 20, 2011 10:49 PM

    Oklahoma and Oklahoma State are not in the South? Uh, okay. Where are they, then?

  26. paulbrownsrevenge says: Sep 20, 2011 10:54 PM


    I think they serve grits in West Va. I was hoping the B1G would get your Mizzou Tigers, Too many tigers in the SEC. LSU might have to officially become “the Bayou Bengals”. I think Notre Dame will have to join the Big16.

  27. southernpatriots says: Sep 20, 2011 11:11 PM

    paulbrownsrevenge: HA! Never! We take umbrage with that post! hmhph! Bayou Bengals is a good secondary nick name but actually there are no bayous in Baton Rouge or East Baton Rouge Parish. And Bengal (or actually Bengal mix) is the variety of Tiger we have as a live mascot–Mike the Tiger, to whom we feed corrupt politicians (Mike got very fat a decade or so ago) and a few Ole Miss and Tulane fans that wander too close!

    They serve grits in Detroit as well! At the Soul Food Cafe and other locations where the only cooking in Detroit is edible. Cooks came from Mobile, New Orleans, etc…ha.

    Notre Dame will stay indie as long as they possibly can. They enjoy the best of situations now but will join only if they do not have an easy “at large” bid to the big dance. Money will not motivate them. They have more than they use now, much more.

  28. southernpatriots says: Sep 20, 2011 11:24 PM

    centexhorn: We know the feeling.

  29. kcrobert10 says: Sep 20, 2011 11:46 PM

    Pac 12 says they are staying at 12 teams. Throws a wrench in Oklahomas treat toward Texas. Unless of course they have been talking to sec which makes much more since than the pac 12.

  30. dcroz says: Sep 21, 2011 7:38 AM

    Like you, JT, I do not see why the SEC would move the Iron Bowl up in an effort to avoid the possibility of Alabama and Auburn playing in consecutive weeks. As I wrote last year when we were discussing the same situation with Michigan and Ohio State, there have been 19 SEC Championship Games played, and NONE of them have involved a rematch of any of the current cross-divisional permanent “rivalry” games, which includes ‘Bama-Tennessee (13 combined appearances, but never in the same game), Auburn-Georgia (South’s oldest rivalry), and Florida-LSU (five combined national titles since 1996). And even if the Iron Bowl wound up just being a warm-up for the main event a week later: who cares? You can never get enough Tide-Tigers!

  31. dickroy says: Sep 21, 2011 9:02 AM

    I hope whatever happens, the game beween Tennessee and Alabama will always be. For years I have been going to Tennessee for this game every October. I love going to Neyland every other year and I watch the game in Gatlinburg when its in Alabama.

  32. southernpatriots says: Sep 21, 2011 9:17 AM

    dickroy: We have similar feelings about the Tiger Bowl (LSU — Auburn) and the game between LSU — Alabama which this year may determine the BCS national.

  33. dickroy says: Sep 21, 2011 9:57 AM

    @ southernpatriots

    I’m sure you do. I know the people up North would flip out if the Ohio St./Michigan game didn’t end their seasons every year.

  34. southernpatriots says: Sep 21, 2011 10:06 AM

    dickroy: We would have said the final game of the season–The Boot–which is with Arkansas, but we are aggravated with LSU overlooking or looking past this game year after year after year…for the bowl game coming or whatever and Arkansas playing for trying to get into a bowl and they win year after year.

  35. Deb says: Sep 21, 2011 11:15 AM

    @centexhorn …

    Oklahoma and Oklahoma State are in the Southwest, not the Southeast. We are the SEC.

    Here’s how I see it: Thirteen states signed the order of secession:

    South Carolina
    North Carolina

    If you play in one of those states, you can join the SEC. I was willing to make an exception for West Virginia. I was wrong.

    The grits test is a personal thing. When I went away to college, I’d never traveled outside the South and I felt a little homesick. When I found grits on the menu, I figured I was okay :)

  36. southernpatriots says: Sep 21, 2011 11:28 AM

    Deb: If you love grits the way we do you will love the stone ground grits on century old grist stones turned by a water wheel and a creek in Helen, GA. We like the Georgia Ice Cream grits, larger ground combo of white and yellow. These grits still have life (the germ) in them, a much deeper and better flavor and a great experience to see the locally grown corn being ground into grits, corn meal, corn flour, etc. available on the Internet

    We love shrimp and grits, crawfish and grits, redfish and grits, etoufee and grits, grits and eggs, grits and tasso, grits and ….just about anything. ha.

  37. dickroy says: Sep 21, 2011 12:42 PM

    @ southernpatriots

    I love grits and saw mill gravy with tomatoes.
    And when it comes to realignment of conferences, I believe the geographic aspect should be the most important.

  38. Deb says: Sep 21, 2011 1:01 PM

    @southernpatriots and dickroy …

    Yes, yes, yes 😀

    If y’all go to a game in Tuscaloosa, stop by the Waysider for breakfast. Small place–you’ll have to wait in line. Great cheese grits. Or you can get pancakes shaped like Big Al :)

    Here’s what Esquire said in “The 59 Best Breakfasts in America”:

    “The Waysider — Tuscaloosa, Ala.
    The lines are long, and the service is perpetually overwhelmed, but the Waysider offers a subtle red-eye gravy and the most straight-up cheese grits in the free world.”

    Read more:

  39. southernpatriots says: Sep 21, 2011 1:18 PM

    dickroy: Add that also to our list of grits combos we love. Come on now, your desire makes sense. The only sense this realignment, switching conferences, building to super conferences or huge POD conferences makes is ….MONEY.

    Fans would hope the big conferences would preserve tradition, or even geographical considerations. By and large, they don’t. If the SEC can get Oklahoma and Oklahoma State, they will, over Georgia Tech or others who are easily in the traditional SEC territory.

    The tv audience weighs heavily. The conferences won’t discard the opportunity to get a perennial power in football and ignore any and all geographical or traditional considerations.. That perennial power will fill the stadiums and garner an audience on tv.

    If the SEC doesn’t do it, the tv dollars will go to other conferences, the other conferences will build the best facilities and hire the best coaches and begin to win the hearts of the best high school players which in turn will eventually yield the best results in games, bowls, and BCS champions.

  40. artbyshan says: Sep 21, 2011 1:23 PM

    According to ESPN, the President of Missouri is the head of board of directors for the Big 12. It is thought if the Big 12 is sticking together (For now anyways), this would make it difficult for Missouri to leave and go to the SEC. See the link below (Reference comes at about 2:03 of the clip).

  41. dickroy says: Sep 21, 2011 1:33 PM

    @ southerpatriots
    You are absolutley right. Money controls most everything these days.

    @ Deb
    Thanks. I will try the Waysider and breakfast is my favorite meal. I do go to Bessemer every so often, we have a plant there. Sounds like its worth the drive over. Now you have made me hungry!!

  42. Deb says: Sep 21, 2011 2:42 PM

    @dickroy …

    Bessemer? Have you ever eaten at the Bright Star? If not, you must. Famous Snapper Almondine and pie, pie, pie. Sandra Bullock eats there 😉

    @southernpatriots …

    Must you be so practical? I don’t want those nasty ol’ Sooners in the SEC. I spent too long loving to hate Barry Switzer. And to paraphrase George Strait, too many of my exes hail from just north of Texas. Does anyone in Oklahoma even own a tee-vee? 😉

  43. dickroy says: Sep 21, 2011 3:07 PM

    @ Deb

    Yes Deb. As a matter of fact we met some customers from Bogota, Colombia to give them a tour of one our plants in Birmingham and the Birmingham people took us there for dinner and a meeting.
    A great place. Great food. The colombian people loved it. If I remember right I had A broiled snapper. Don’t know if that is the snapper almondine though.

  44. southernpatriots says: Sep 21, 2011 3:08 PM

    Deb: How many years have transpired since Barry? let it go…ha. We did not like Barry either but he is not there, Stoops is. His brother is the DC at Florida State. Saban received the salary of Stoops when he won the BCS National when at LSU, plus $1 as a bonus. A bonus of $2.5 million plus $1! At that time and for many years, Bob Stoops was the highest paid college football coach in the U.S.

    None of us have any exes in Oklahoma, but we have alot of friends and some special very dear ones there. We knew some past governors, both Dems and Reps.

    Don’t know much about the tee-vees but we do know they have tee-pees.

    Great number and varied of native Americans are there, including the posterity of the Cherokee nation that walked the “trail of tears,” a horror in American history.

  45. dickroy says: Sep 21, 2011 3:15 PM

    And Deb I love pie. The only kind I don’t care for is sweet tater pie. I don’t think Sandra was there that day, I would have noticed her. I love her.

  46. Deb says: Sep 21, 2011 4:04 PM

    Y’all have made me miss Alabama and grits and snapper and pie and Sandra Bullock and hating Barry Switzer and running barefoot on red clay.

    southernpatriots, did you just tell me to “let it go” regarding a football rivalry?

    I love the Pittsburgh Steelers with all my heart and Switzer coached … um … stood on the sidelines in SBXXX. I have thus far recovered from my cancer battles. I have not recovered from SBXXX.

    Let it go? No, I don’t think so.

    It’s still the Southeastern Conference.

  47. southernpatriots says: Sep 21, 2011 4:15 PM

    Deb: Nooooo. Don’t let go of your rivalries. Just let go of Switzer and his connection with Oklahoma. Of course, we were on the other side of SBXXX.

    We had a white car (a beautiful long body white Cadillac with tail fins!) back some years ago and we got into some of that red clay and thought for weeks that we would not be able to remove it from the white paint! We finally had to apply polish and wear off the outer layer of paint! That red kaolin clay is made into clay pots for plants! I had a pair of white bellbottoms which never did clean out from the red clay of Alabama! Some great memories!

    dickroy: If you had red snapper almondine you would have probably remembered because it is covered with bronzed almond slivers from which it gets its name. But, any red snapper dish is delicious. We prepare it with crawfish etoufee smothering it on a bed of seasoned rice or toasted French bread.

  48. Deb says: Sep 21, 2011 5:35 PM

    A bed of seasoned rice. Mmmmmmm. Decided the other day I can live without almost any food but seasoned rice. And of course, as you can tell from my posts, I’m a carnivore 😉

    southernpatriots … SBXXX remains my most painful sports moment. I thought XLV would hurt like that but it didn’t even scratch the surface. In fact, our DC and two members of our defense from XXX were on the Packers’ coaching staff and I take considerable comfort in knowing they finally have their rings. I always love my Steelers, but that defense has a special place in my heart. Have photos from all our Super Bowls in my Steelers room, but only a photo from XXX in my office.

  49. southernpatriots says: Sep 21, 2011 7:52 PM

    Deb: One of our sisters lived in Dallas-Ft. Worth area at the time and we knew Tom Landry when he was the coach of the Cowboys and several of the players on that Super Bowl XXX winning team.

    We grow much rice in south Louisiana and know the folks at Conrad Rice Mill, the oldest continuous use rice mill in the U.S. and they put out the Konriko brand rice products. We also know other rice farmers as well. We get their fresh products. Much deeper and better taste than the product shipped, put into warehouses, etc. oftentimes months from the time of harvest and drying.

  50. dickroy says: Sep 21, 2011 8:14 PM

    @ Deb and southernpatriots

    If I am not mistaken it was just snapper and I think I had it blackened, but I do remember it was awesome.
    Deb, you are Miss Alabama! And yes we are the SEC, (Vols#1) don’t hate me, I also love the Steelers with my heart, body, and soul!
    Love your post, you are some sweet southern bell!

  51. southernpatriots says: Sep 21, 2011 9:25 PM

    dickroy: If blackened, you had a deep taste of flavor caramelized on the fish, adding good texture and flavor compliments of the great Cajun chef Paul Prudomme who originated all blackening of fish, chicken, pork, etc.

    A good friend of our brother was a soux chef under Chef Paul. One day Chef Paul left a snapper on the blackened skillet while he departed and did not come back in a timely manner. Chef Paul saw the fish was “burned” or blackened so he put the skillet aside and started the dish over.

    At the end of the day, the soux chefs were cleaning and our brother’s friend saw this fish and being hungry he ate some of it and then asked Chef Paul what that dish was. Chef Paul said he did not leave a finished dish on the counter, and when Paul tasted this “accident” he was very pleased and duplicated it, calling it “blackened redfish”, then “blackened snapper,” “blackened chicken,” etc.

    We have cooked all varieties of fish blackened all over the world and it is quite a delight to all who taste it. Goes good with mixed salad, steamed or grilled mixed vegetables, seasoned rice and French bread. Chef Paul offers a blackened seasoning in stores closely similar to what he originally used.

  52. dickroy says: Sep 21, 2011 9:40 PM

    Thank you for the info. I know I love fish blackened. In restraunts in the midwest ordering something blackened or cajan means the same thing.

  53. dickroy says: Sep 21, 2011 9:50 PM

    I go to a place in Redwood Falls Minnesota, sometimes for work, and they blacken walleye and they spell it Cajan.

  54. southernpatriots says: Sep 21, 2011 9:53 PM

    dickroy: Send those midwest chefs and cooks down to south Louisiana and we will gladly teach them the difference, and there is a great difference…in method, in seasoning, and even in preparation and cooking.

    Some wonderful Oregon fans that came down to the LSU–Oregon game at Cowboy Stadium, in
    Arlington, TX, after tasting our Cajun feast tailgate of crawfish etoufee, shrimp creole, seafood gumbo, Cajun jambalaya, smoked meats, etc. asked us to come up to Oregon and start a restaurant.

    Our brother, a great chef, told them we were too old to do that and also we were Southern born and raised and could not handle the winters they enjoyed. (we are used to wearing shirts, sometimes short sleeved in our winters).

  55. southernpatriots says: Sep 21, 2011 10:05 PM

    dickroy: It could be that since they don’t know how to spell Cajun, they don’t know the difference between Cajun and blackened…ha.

  56. Deb says: Sep 21, 2011 10:17 PM

    dickroy, you’re so sweet. :)

    southernpatriots, I’ve only visited Louisiana once–New Orleans before Katrina. But the thing I remember most is the food :)

  57. dickroy says: Sep 21, 2011 10:22 PM

    I will do that. I was born in the south, but live in Cincinnati for my work. I do have to travel all over the US and Europe and South America, but for me I could retire in my home state of Tennesse. It is good to exchange info with you.

  58. 4lilnoles says: Sep 27, 2011 1:31 PM

    Come On! SEC…..just sign up Missouri, Clemson and Florida State and get this rumour mill over with.

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