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Big 12 AD’s meeting in Dallas; Mizzou a wild card

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Just as Texas athletic director DeLoss Dodds hinted at last week, Big 12 AD’s are set to meet today and tomorrow to discuss what will likely be some form of continuation of the stability teleconference Big 12 officials partook in last week.

With new interim commissioner Chuck Neinas in full-fledged consultant mode and Texas A&M officially a member of the SEC, the Big 12 still has to sort out two major issues: revenue distribution and membership.

How the conference will decide to divvy up the first and second-tier revenue streams from ABC/ESPN and FOX is still a point of concern; the press conference disconnect between Missouri and Oklahoma last week over the six-year grant of TV rights to the conference was hardly a confidence booster for Big 12 survival.

As we touched on yesterday, that revenue-sharing disconnect may have traced back to last spring when Texas, A&M and Oklahoma reportedly shot down the idea of granting first and second-tier TV rights to the conference.

In regards to membership, the Big 12 will need at least 10 members to avoid any financial penalties with the upcoming Big 12 Network, and to continue as a viable product for their TV rights distributors. Who that 10th member will be – Air Force, BYU, Louisville, TCU and West Virginia have all been mentioned by Big 12 officials or by way of the rumor mill — is still unclear.

Equally uncertain is whether Missouri will be a member of the Big 12 at all when they do expand. Chip Brown of Orangebloods.com tweets that the Big 12 is still waiting on a commitment from Mizzou even as the meetings get underway. The rumor mill has been churning for the past couple of weeks about a possible move by Mizzou to the SEC. SEC commissioner Mike Slive has stated that the conference is satisfied at 13 members, although it’s thought that both parties were engaged in some form of back channel discussions over possible membership.

Hopefully, we’ll get some sense of which way Missouri is leaning as these meetings get underway. Right now, though, the Tigers are a wild card.

Neinas was prepared to make a stop in College Station to visit with A&M just before the Aggies left for the SEC. He might want to push his trip to Columbia forward to as soon as possible.

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25 Responses to “Big 12 AD’s meeting in Dallas; Mizzou a wild card”
  1. brutusbuckeye2011 says: Sep 27, 2011 12:55 PM

    I find it hard to believe that any team of consequence would join the Big 12 with all of its problems. Tell Notre Dame to give being an independent and Missouri can be the 14th member of the Big Ten.

  2. chmba says: Sep 27, 2011 12:58 PM

    DeLoss Dodds has already bought off the new commish with a consulting job with some of his cronies. Mizzou leadership would be fools to stay in this mess with SEC and possibly Big 10 spots available.

    This “conference” is a corrupt bully driven MESS!!

  3. Deb says: Sep 27, 2011 1:01 PM

    If the Big 12’s Big Guns can’t commit to a fair revenue-sharing agreement, then Mizzou needs to get out now. This has gone on long enough. If there’s an offer on the table from the SEC, take it.

    I didn’t want the conflict of having my alma mater Mizzou in the same conference and division with my lifelong team Alabama. But I’m tired of seeing the Tigers jerked around by money hoarders and reportedly played by twits in the Big 10 offering junior memberships. Life is simple in the SEC. We share.

  4. kcrobert10 says: Sep 27, 2011 1:07 PM

    I agree mizzou would be stupid to stick around. The big 10 could of and should of had us by now they passed and went with neb. That’s ok nd isn’t going to give up indy status anytime soon so they should be banging the door down trying to get ku, mu,kst, Rutgers on board. There siting on the sidelines has cost them here as mizzou should get into the sec.

  5. kcrobert10 says: Sep 27, 2011 1:14 PM

    What for it guys burntorange will be along shortly to tell us everything in the big 12 is fine and we do share equally… I love u burnt ur Passion for ur school makes college sports fun but its time mu does what is best for itself just like Texas has done for 30 years and 2 different conferences.

  6. sportsbastard says: Sep 27, 2011 1:38 PM

    To my fellow MU fans that keep clamoring for the B1G.. Stop it already.. it isn’t an option. The SEC is our out (and IMHO better than staying in the dysfunctional XII, and a better option than the B1G, who want/wanted no part of us for whatever reason – heck with ‘em).

    People speak to MU not being able to compete in the SEC, although I venture to say there isn’t a tougher environment than a night road game at OU (which MU didn’t win, but absolutely didn’t embarass themselves). With a newfound ability to recruit in the Southeast (as well as continue to pull quality from Texas, and keep the instate recruits), I believe MU CAN compete in the SEC. (heck we have a better record than aTm over the past 10 years).

    Stop the B1G talk people.. MIZ-SEC!!

  7. sportsdrenched.com says: Sep 27, 2011 2:35 PM

    Wow the more I read about the Big 12, the less optimistic I am that it will survive. We’ve made a lot marriage metaphores about holding the conference together. However, at some point you decide that trust will never be there and you go your seperate ways.

    And I wouldn’t blame Missouri for leaving. Just get it over with.

  8. florida727 says: Sep 27, 2011 2:44 PM

    Aside from the St. Louis TV market, what does Missouri bring to the SEC? I’m not being a smart@$$. I’m really trying to understand the attraction that would draw the SEC to want Missouri as opposed to maybe Florida State, Miami, even one of the Carolina schools, or Rutgers (which opens the NY market), or some other more eastern located school, or another from Texas, such as TCU.

  9. dickroy says: Sep 27, 2011 2:56 PM

    @ Deb,

    Hey Deb, I would rather see Missouri join the Big Ten if they got an offer. Would also fit geographically, (which I subscribe to) with Illinois and Iowa on their borders.
    Whats your take?

  10. brutusbuckeye2011 says: Sep 27, 2011 3:09 PM

    KU, KS & Rutgers bring nothing to the table for Big Ten football. People make references to Rutgers and the NY TV market, but nobody in NY watches Rutgers. MU didn’t get in because the conference didn’t want to go above 12 teams. Unless ND joins the Big Ten will stay at 12.

  11. mithrilsoul says: Sep 27, 2011 3:12 PM

    @florida727,

    You answered your own question.

    What MU brings are two decent-sized TV markets (St. Louis and Kansas City) that currently have zero SEC footprint. Adding more schools in Florida (FSU, Miami, whatever) doesn’t add any more TV sets. Same is true if you expand to any area where you already have SEC teams. The only thing the SEC could do to rival/surpass adding MU (from a pure TV, and thus $$$, standpoint) is adding a team that is going to grab the Virginia/Maryland/DC metro area.

    Now, if you are looking for a pure *football* decision, then obviously adding a team like FSU makes the most sense. But don’t kid yourselves. None of these conference alignment decisions are about the sport; they are all about the money. Just follow the money, it’s as simple as that.

  12. kcrobert10 says: Sep 27, 2011 3:30 PM

    To also add the sec schools in Fla, ga, sc, ken, Lsu have made it clear they want no part of in-state rivals cutting into there turf. As for the rest the previous post somes up pretty well why the sec wants mu and why mu should want the sec.

  13. wustlgrad says: Sep 27, 2011 5:02 PM

    The Sooners are once again at the mercy of Texas. I cannot believe OU is going to want to be a part of a conference with any of the following AFA, BYU, L-Ville or any other CUSA type of school. Let Texas have their precious LHN as well as a league of crap. I’m not an OU grad but a fan and I say OU & MU show the Big 12 the middle finger. OU isn’t academically what the PAC 12 wants without Texas and the BIG doesn’t want “em” either for that exact reason. So…go to the SEC. Please Boren grow a brain and accept OU for what it is–a football school. Perhaps MU can influence OU to make a wise choice along with them. Let the Big 12 either die or become the new LHN league.

  14. florida727 says: Sep 27, 2011 5:09 PM

    mithrilsoul says:
    Sep 27, 2011 3:12 PM

    Thanks for answering. Not sure why all the thumbs-down to my post. I really was asking a serious question, not being a smart@$$ or taking a shot at Missouri per se. Whatever.

    The follow-up question then becomes, which TV market becomes more attractive to the SEC: St. Louis/Kansas City or the VA/MD/DC metro market? Does proximity to the “southeast” even matter? Heck, at least the DC metro area can claim the “east” part of “southeast” :)

  15. kcrobert10 says: Sep 27, 2011 5:14 PM

    Dickroy I know u directed ur question to Deb but I would point out Missouri has more ties with south than the north. It boarders ken, Tenn, ark. It was founded as a slave state. It would of joined the confederates if not for the union army. Kc and stl are famous for Bbq, jazz and soul fSo

  16. cootyman73 says: Sep 27, 2011 6:11 PM

    Nothing left for Mizzou-rah in the Big 12. SEC is a much more attractive conference for Missouri. The move may also help Mizzou stop losing Missouri prospects to schools like Nebraska and Oklahoma.

  17. kcrobert10 says: Sep 27, 2011 6:18 PM

    Sec isn’t going to be able to raid the acc for those dc schools. The buyout is in the 50 mill range and the acc is stable unlike the big 12.

  18. Deb says: Sep 27, 2011 6:22 PM

    @dickroy …

    Been fighting my losing battle on the other side again today. Wish the earth would open and swallow those evil people.

    Anyway, to answer your question, I thought Mizzou would be a good fit for the Big 10. But my understanding is that the Big 10 jerked them around quite a bit. Someone even mentioned that they were offered a junior membership?

    Missouri is an AAU member, oldest school of Journalism in the world–extremely prestigious university in that field. Given the Big 10’s behavior, I don’t see any reason for a school of that caliber to keep playing wallflower at their dance. And if the Big 12 can’t get its ducks in a row, then Mizzou has to consider its options.

    I think the wisest way to handle SEC admission is to limit entry to schools from the 13 states that signed the secession order. Missouri is one of those states.

  19. thefiesty1 says: Sep 27, 2011 7:40 PM

    Missouri should jump to the SEC ASAP and leave DeLOSS, Boren, Powers and the yes men/women at the other Big9 blowing in the wind. Why would anyone want to be associated with those guys? They deserve each other and what they get for being so greedy and arrogant.

  20. dafool99 says: Sep 27, 2011 9:36 PM

    It’s amazing how MU wants to go to a conference where they will get pissed on every week of conference play just for a bump in pay.

    Lets see 17-18 million a year(which could balloon as much as 15 million more depending on bowl bid), maybe 1 or 2 losses, BCS bowl bid actually being a viable option in Big 12…

    or

    20-22 million for your team to become a doormat, Losing 7 conference games a year, and missing bowl payouts. But you get to tell people you are in the “best football conference” in the world!

    Right now, they can’t beat Florida, Bama, LSU, Miss. St. Georgia, Tennessee,Arkansas, Auburn, or South Carolina.

    U starting out in possibly 10th place (like Vandy to scare some), 11th once ATM gets there.

    But yet the grass is always greener!!!

  21. Deb says: Sep 27, 2011 9:49 PM

    @dafool99 …

    First, Missouri absolutely can be competitive with this year’s MSU, Georgia, Tennessee, Auburn, and perhaps Arkansas and even South Carolina. No, I don’t think they can handle Alabama, LSU, or the Gators right now.

    Second, they wouldn’t be playing all those teams every year. They’d have to play the other teams in the western division–which would be a challenge–and a couple of teams in the eastern division. But when is the last time they won a National Championship playing in the Big 12? At least in the SEC, they’d be fairly compensated.

  22. dafool99 says: Sep 27, 2011 10:24 PM

    The Big 12 gives the National Championship Title Hopes, slim, but hopes.

    The SEC offers more guaranteed upfront money. That is all. They have made it to Big 12 Championship game before. I know they don’t play all those teams in one season, but can you honestly tell me what is a better situation chance at a BCS bowl in BigXII-3 or a shot at the BBVA Compass Bowl, Music City, Liberty Bowl, or watching the bowl season.

    Truthfully, nobody cares about being “competitive” Vanderbilt is “competitive” and where does it get them year in and out in the SEC!

    Maybe that is the problem with my logic in this all. Here i am thinking that you would want to go somewhere where it sets you up to succeed, or have possible success. While every one else wants to be “competitive” and let all the kids play because that is the only way to be fair.

    You think Skip Kelly is sitting is his office saying atleast I was “competitive” against Auburn and LSU? I watched both games, if that is competitive, I pass!

  23. kcrobert10 says: Sep 27, 2011 11:23 PM

    Where does this idea that mizzou is this doormat program. This team has finished in to top 30 every year the last 5-8 years. Sure Ala, auburn, Lsu, Fla are tough but they aren’t unbearable and some of them will have to come to the zou no easy task. Sure we don’t have a national championship but there is always a chance it could happen. Besides football is just 1 sport tell me that the basketball program wouldn’t be one of the better ones in that conference. At worst my guess year in year out the football team would be anywhere from 5-10 in bad yrs at the bottom but even the great programs have bad yrs. The basketball team will be a top 5 program yr in yr out.

  24. Deb says: Sep 28, 2011 12:49 PM

    @dafool99 …

    When I use the term competitive, I mean they have the chance to win. Missouri can be just as competititve–have just as much chance to win–in the SEC as in the Big 12 when Nebraska and Colorado were there. Missouri didn’t win national championships competiting against Oklahoma, Nebraska, and Texas. The level of competition is comparable, but the rewards are greater.

  25. waynefontes says: Sep 29, 2011 6:59 AM

    I’m all for Missouri, it just seems kind of strange for Missouri to be in the SEC. Kind of like A&M.

    Then again, if TCU can be in the Big East…

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