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Mizzou-to-SEC chatter continues to grow

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In addition to future changes to the BcS, SEC commissioner Mike Slive reiterated a stance Tuesday that his conference has taken over the past several weeks: the SEC will be just fine adding Texas A&M and staying with an unbalanced 13 members for the time being.  Being the sage commissioner that he is, however, Slive didn’t slam the door shut on future movement.

“We anticipate being a 13-team league in 2012-13,” Slive said during a teleconference yesterday. “First, there are no institution currently under consideration by the SEC presidents and chancellors. And secondly, we have not received any application of any institution other than Texas A&M.”

Based on the rumors and speculation regarding a potential 14th member being added sooner rather than later, it was wise for Slive to add the “anticipate” qualifier.

The Kansas City Star and are both reporting that the University of Missouri Board of Curators could meet as early as next Tuesday, and that the meeting will likely involve discussion of the school’s future conference affiliation.  Both before and after the Big 12 had been “saved from extinction”, Mizzou has been connected to other conferences, most notably the SEC this time around.  At a press conference the day after the Pac-12 announced it would not expand beyond its 12 current members, UM chancellor Brady Deaton refused to publicly affirm their loyalty to the Big 12.

A source with knowledge of Mizzou’s thinking told CFT five days ago that “the SEC hasn’t been taken out of play“; another source told the Star around the same time that joining another conference “is something that we’re very open to.”  Per our source, nothing’s changed on that front, with Mizzou-to-SEC talk possibly coming to a head — and a resolution — by the end of next week.

And, as if to add another layer of intrigue to the situation, Twitter has been all abuzz over a private plane that took off from Columbia, Mo. — home of the University of Missouri — Tuesday evening and landed in Birmingham, Ala. — home of the SEC offices.  After a stay of just over four hours, the plane headed back to Columbia.

Jon Wilner of the San Jose Mercury News, one of the most connected writers in the country when it comes to the expansion front, wrote Wednesday that, according to his sources, the Big 12 is already making contingency plans to get back to 12 members with or without Missouri.  BYU, Boise State, Louisville and West Virginia, all rumored to be a part of an expanded Big 12, are mentioned by Wilner as potential candidates for expansion.

Wilner also tosses in a financial nugget to explain why the SEC would look to consider adding Mizzou as well as A&M: “The schools [would] add 11 million TV homes to the league’s footprint. At $1 per in-market subscriber per month … and this is all back-of-the-napkin conjecture … that would be more than $100 million per year — just from Mizzou and A&M.”  Such numbers are derived from the SEC possibly creating a network similar to that of the Pac-12’s regional setup.

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23 Responses to “Mizzou-to-SEC chatter continues to grow”
  1. kcrobert10 says: Sep 28, 2011 1:00 PM

    See I said on an earlier post that talk radio here in kc has been a buzz about the plane from colombia to Ala. Good for the tigers find us a home that is truely stable and allow the big 12 to try to patch up whatever crazy conf plan they think will pay them or just Texas and ou the most money.

  2. gatorb8 says: Sep 28, 2011 1:10 PM

    At this point Mizzou has to be in the same boat as Nebraska, Colorado, and A&M are, sick of Texas (and to a lesser extent OU) getting all of the money and having all of the influence over the conference. They have to know that the SEC is a much better place to be, both money wise and stability wise. The fact that they refused to lock arms with UT, OU and the rest of the B12 is pretty telling of how they feel. Seeing an open spot in the SEC and a golden opportunity must be tempting.

  3. kcrobert10 says: Sep 28, 2011 1:11 PM

    By the way everyone likes to point out travel schedules ill take the trip from Colombia to tuskalusa, gainsville, or sc over that trip to Idaho, Utah, west Virginia any day.

  4. gatorprof says: Sep 28, 2011 1:39 PM


    Solution = charters.

  5. drummerhoff says: Sep 28, 2011 1:51 PM

    Should the SEC add Mizzou, that means Auburn moves to the East and does Bama does NOT get to play Auburn & Tennessee each season. That’s not going to happen.

    Maybe the real news behind ‘if’ Mizzou goes to the SEC is it indicates Slive’s design on the first 16 team conference (by adding another two for the East).

  6. auburntigers34 says: Sep 28, 2011 2:06 PM

    the SEC doesn’t revolve around bama. the last time that the conference expanded, Auburn lost it’s yearly rivalry games with UT and UF. if bama wants to keep both games, they can move to the East when the SEC goes to 16 teams.

  7. says: Sep 28, 2011 2:19 PM


    I’m still waiting for Gary Patterson to be the next HC at Kansas State…as reported by a Rivals site.

    I’m sure Rivals is a great fan site, but I hardly use them for credible information.

  8. drummerhoff says: Sep 28, 2011 2:19 PM

    34 –

    are you sure the conference doesn’t pay more attention to Bama’s wants, needs and desires?

    Afterall, “the last time that the conference expanded, Auburn lost it’s yearly rivalry games with UT and UF” … but Bama kept their yearly rivalry games, hmmm?

  9. says: Sep 28, 2011 2:25 PM

    Other than that. I’m to the point now where I don’t really care where KSU ends up. Just that it gets done, and we can move on to something else.

  10. auburntigers34 says: Sep 28, 2011 2:32 PM


    if thinking that bama is “special” helps you sleep better at night, then by all means, keep dreaming.

    if the Iron Bowl means that much to bama, maybe they can give up their yearly ‘rivalry” with Vandy when Auburn goes to the East.

    i couldn’t care less about keeping the Iron Bowl….even though Auburn’s won far more than their share of those games in my lifetime.

  11. cburmester85 says: Sep 28, 2011 2:39 PM

    Is Mizzou at the calibar of cheating that most SEC schools are at? I haven’t heard about too many scandals or player arrests. They better get real corrupt real quick to compete in the SEC.

  12. tradeassociation says: Sep 28, 2011 3:13 PM


    Nice sour grapes there. Funny how no one was accusing the SEC of cheating until the SEC started winning titles. Gee, wonder why? And the fact that schools from the Pac-12, Big 10 and ACC are under or facing major penalties while no SEC school is currently facing major NCAA trouble in football just flies right over your heads, doesn’t it?


    The solution to the problem is to send Alabama to the SEC East. That way they play Tennessee in the division and Auburn as their cross division rival. Why no one is talking about this is unusual. In any event, if the Tigers do move and Alabama does have to give up a game, then dropping the Tennessee game would be a rather easy decision to make, as its importance to the SEC, college football, and even Alabama fans is overstated.

  13. kcrobert10 says: Sep 28, 2011 3:27 PM

    Why don’t they just line up the divisons like this east: Fla, Ala, auburn, ga, sc, Tenn, ken west: miss st, ole miss, Lsu, vandy, ark, mu, Texas a&m. Then everbodys happy right.

  14. dcroz says: Sep 28, 2011 3:53 PM

    Wow, Auburn fans just can’t stop whining, can they?

    The reason Auburn lost its rivalry games when the SEC expanded to 12 teams in 1992 and then when it went to a 5-1-2 schedule several years ago while ‘Bama kept theirs is a simple matter of geography. Most of Auburn’s biggest rivals were teams that were put into the SEC East (Tennessee, Florida, and Georgia) while most of ‘Bama’s biggest rivals wound up in the SEC West (Mississippi State, LSU, Ole Miss). ‘Bama did lose its annual game with Vandy when the 5-1-2 switch occurred, though no one misses having it.

    There was no effort to protect Alabama and screw over Auburn. For that matter, why aren’t Auburn fans pointing out that Tennessee got “screwed” by losing their annual games with Auburn, Ole Miss, and LSU? I don’t hear the Vols complaining about it. It was just geography, plain and simple.

    Oh, and it was 20 freakin’ years ago. Auburn has new rivalries with LSU and Arkansas every bit as big as the ones they lost. Get over it.

  15. tradeassociation says: Sep 28, 2011 4:00 PM


    There is some merit to that. Adding Texas A&M and Missouri would cause the “center” of the conference to shift geographically, making the state of Alabama shift into the SEC East. (However, such a thing would also give weight to those agitating moving the SEC title game!)

    And it even geographically fits. Knoxville, which is above Georgia, is decidedly to the east of Nashville, which is above Alabama. So, it wouldn’t be overtly “kicking Vanderbilt around.” Of course, Vanderbilt would still be somewhat east of Tuscaloosa, but this should be a sacrifice they are willing to make, because they’d be in the division with 2 of the 3 other AAU schools in Missouri and A&M. (We could call the SEC West “the academics side” … how weird is that?)

    The problem is that for football purposes, it would be terribly unbalanced. You would be putting Florida, Tennessee, Alabama, Auburn, and Georgia – the schools that have won 8 of the SEC’s last 10 national titles – (and that doesn’t include 2004 and 1992 for Auburn) in the same division, and with only LSU to represent the other side. That would essentially replicate what the Big 12 did in putting all their strong teams in the Big 12 South and having the North incredibly weak. That would be good for Missouri, A&M, Ole Miss and Mississippi State (and Vanderbilt) but horrible for everybody else.

    Shifting Alabama to the east is the best way to go.

  16. auburntigers34 says: Sep 28, 2011 5:36 PM


    who’s whining? i’m thrilled that Auburn’s probably moving to the East and couldn’t care less if bama’s happy with the changes or not.

    if anyone’s claiming that bama’s getting special treatment from the conference, it’s a bama fan(drummerhoff).

  17. kcrobert10 says: Sep 28, 2011 5:59 PM

    Tradeassociation I was just lining it up by geographically as u pointed out also trying to keep the traditional rivalries together. I understand its unbalanced football wise but no matter how its lined up it will be hard to win in that conference.

  18. Derty Ernie says: Sep 28, 2011 6:02 PM

    The big ten commish flew to Missouri got off the plane, said “what is that smell?’ and got back on the plane and left.

  19. kcrobert10 says: Sep 28, 2011 6:16 PM

    Ernie ur so freaking funny but Missouri will be laughing when there cashing those sec checks that will be bigger than anything the big 10 can offer. By the way with Missouri, pitt, cuse off the table were exactly is that conference going to expand to. Kansas, Rutgers just keep waiting for the golden domers just like u have been for 50 yrs.

  20. southernpatriots says: Oct 2, 2011 9:07 PM

    We don’t know if Missouri really wants into the SEC. The SEC does not seem to recruit new members, but the individual schools petition Slive and if he is convinced, he speaks with the SEC member school presidentgs to convince them. That is the procedure followed with Texas A & M. There are so many considerations which have to be answered but Slive and team seem to know that and are proceeding slowly.

    The SEC is negotiating a new TV contract within another 18 months or less. On Saturday, the SEC Network broadcast the LSU/Kentucky game throughout the U.S. in most major (and some minor) markets. Those profits are distributed equally among members.

  21. waynefontes says: Oct 5, 2011 9:18 AM

    It’s obvious what’s going to happen.

    For all those who are envious of.. oops, I mean hate the SEC.. it is one of the elite conferences in college sports. True revenue sharing, passionate fan base, stability.. and watch what happens when the next TV deal is negotiated.

    You think the Pac-12 got big numbers.,.

    And you have the Big 12. A conference that had three teams leave in the last two years. Think about that. And the always persistent rumors that someone else is jumping ship.

    I thought Missouri would’ve been a good fit in the Big 10+2.

    There are four power conferences in college sports: ACC, Big 10+2, Pac-12 and the SEC.
    The rest are a notch below.

    Missouri basketball would even get to play a home-and-home with Arkansas, which would be fun to see.

    Welcome to the SEC, Mizzou! ^_^

  22. waynefontes says: Oct 5, 2011 9:21 AM

    Derty Ernie says:
    Sep 28, 2011 6:02 PM
    The big ten commish flew to Missouri got off the plane, said “what is that smell?’ and got back on the plane and left.

    Amazing how far the stench from the Ohio State athletic department goes.

  23. southernpatriots says: Oct 5, 2011 9:29 AM

    waynefontes: Funny! Our old MawMaw used to say, “Don’t throw stones when you live in a glass house!”

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