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E. Gordon Gee: Ohio State is ‘poster child for compliance’

Jim Tressel, E. Gordon Gee

Within a year, nine different football players were suspended for at least a game for receiving impermissible benefits at Ohio State.

Say what you will about the severity of the violations — that’s a different discussion entirely — but the NCAA’s rulebook is what it is. When you boil it down to its simplest form, OSU athletes broke rules (two did it on more than one occasion) and now have to deal with the consequences of their actions.

These are failures of individuals, not a systemic failure of compliance,” athletic director Gene Smith said following the one-game suspension of running back Boom Herron, receiver DeVier Posey and lineman Marcus Hall for accepting wages greater than hours worked at a summer job ”It’s not 30 (players).”

It doesn’t have to be. The job of Ohio State’s compliance department, as it is with all compliance departments, is to educate and monitor athletes, staff and situations to the best of its ability. The objective is to minimize the risk of a violation; if one occurs, compliance works to rectify it as soon as possible.

So, yes, the fact that Ohio State has had multiple sets of violations over the past year that included both of the aforementioned parties (plus an incident with a booster) shows there has been a systematic failure of compliance with the football program. Inexcusably, Smith and Ohio State president E. Gordon Gee don’t see it that way.

We are the poster child for compliance, and whenever we discover a possible infraction, we resolve and report it to the NCAA, no matter how minor the violation,” Gee said. “That’s what we have done here.”

From what we know about the NCAA’s approval of Ohio State’s self-inflicted sanctions, it would appear former coach Jim Tressel was the only Ohio State employee who knew of impermissible benefits received by his players last year. If compliance doesn’t know of a violation, then they can’t do anything about it. So when Gee says Ohio State’s compliance department does its job when it discovers an infraction, there aren’t many reasons to believe that isn’t true.

But what baffles me to near speechlessness  is the arrogance, the “it’s them, not us” tone when Smith speaks of the faults of individuals, or when Gee boasts his school’s compliance department as a model by which others should follow.

If you’ve ever seen Eddie Murphy‘s stand-up “Raw”, then you know the joke. The wife catches the cheating husband walking out of his mistress’ house, and upon confronting him, the husband says calmly, “wasn’t me.”

“But I saw you coming out…”

“Wasn’t me.”

Except this isn’t a joke. This is a real problem and Ohio State’s brass needs to address it as such. This is not to pin Ohio State’s NCAA woes solely on the institution. In fact, and this is merely my opinion, violations like the ones at Ohio State almost certainly occur at every school at every level of college athletics. It takes a booster to come up with the cash and an athlete controls his or her own ability to take it, or refuse it; compliance can only explain what someone can and cannot do.

Whatever Ohio State is explaining, though, clearly isn’t breaching the surface. The athletes have disobeyed, a coach has disobeyed and a booster has disobeyed. To say Ohio State’s compliance department didn’t do its job isn’t truly accurate, but it has failed across the board, and both Smith and Gee need relay the message as such.

If OSU’s compliance is as great as Gee says it is then I pity every other compliance department in college athletics because it sure as hell isn’t all puppies and rainbows right now.

Still, Gee would have us believe that he is Chip Diller of “Animal House”, and that all is well.

“I think we are blessed to have an extraordinarily talented athletic director who has proven his mettle through an extraordinarily tough time,” Gee said.

If he thinks we’re that dumb, then there truly is a joke in all of this.

And it’s on him.

(Tip of the cap: Columbus Dispatch) 

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62 Responses to “E. Gordon Gee: Ohio State is ‘poster child for compliance’”
  1. pjg1309 says: Oct 5, 2011 3:24 PM

    Is this guy for real?? He can not be this arrogant, to believe the stuff that is coming out of his mouth or that we would believe him at all.

  2. southernpatriots says: Oct 5, 2011 3:35 PM

    Huh? Gee, Gordon Gee! We hope his statement represents the moment he said it, because it certainly does not represent the recent past. It is a shame that he would say such a thing at all, considering all that has happened. Don’t know what size shoe he wears but apparently it fits in his mouth well.

    We wish the very best for tOSU, a great research and university of distinction. We wish the true fans of tOSU well. We now understand more than even before why so many true Buckeye fans wanted Gee gone.

  3. brutusbuckeye2011 says: Oct 5, 2011 3:36 PM

    Gee needs to shut up. AD Smith should be fired. Fickell needs to dismiss any player involved in an NCAA violation committed after tatoogate. OSU needs to send a message to the team that this type of behavior is unacceptable.

  4. thefiesty1 says: Oct 5, 2011 3:52 PM

    What a dolt. He, Smith and the rest of the OSU admin need to shut up and go away. They all should have been fired with Tressel.

  5. mydixienormus says: Oct 5, 2011 4:12 PM

    “style” that is. Typo above. So sorry. You get the point though.

  6. mydixienormus says: Oct 5, 2011 4:13 PM

    Bye bye THE Ohio State SUCKEYES.

    You had your run.

    Say hello to my little friend…

  7. Deb says: Oct 5, 2011 4:28 PM

    pjg1309 says:

    Is this guy for real?? He can not be this arrogant, to believe the stuff that is coming out of his mouth or that we would believe him at all.
    ————————————————-
    Gee appears to be the stereotypical academic snob. So yes he really is that arrogant. And he doesn’t care what the general public believes because, unless we’re fellow academians, he thinks we’re beneath him. And unless we’re Ohio State boosters writing big checks to his university, he doesn’t care what we think. Unfortunately, Coach Fickell, Smith, and the other major sports figures at OSU, have no influence on persuading this twit to stop making a fool and a nuisance of himself. He thinks they’re beneath him, too.

  8. goforthanddie says: Oct 5, 2011 4:29 PM

    Should’ve stayed at WVU EGG. You’re not ready for the big time.

  9. dkhhuey says: Oct 5, 2011 4:36 PM

    If you had a staff that could follow each athlete around 24/7 and this stuff was going on, then by all means, you can say OSU’s compliance department is a joke and needs to be totally destroyed and rebuilt. They don’t so these things have happened, are happening, and will always happen. You may think that you can gauge a new recruit’s integrity, but until it has been tested in the field, you will never know if he/she will or will not do the wrong thing. Sorry, this is reality, not Utopia, kids and adults do stupid things!

    Having said that, Gordon just needs to STFU and let the dust naturally settle so we can move on. These idiotic statements do nothing but continue to leave the university and its programs hanging out for everybody to take as many shots at it that they desire.

    Smith is no better! Just STFU – the season is painful enough and we really don’t need to add your stupidity on top of it.

  10. pacific123ocean says: Oct 5, 2011 4:38 PM

    Hilarious! This guy is clueless. If they are the “poster child for compliance”, then the NCAA is in serious trouble.

    Who is Gordon Gee’s boss…the regents? Whoever it is needs to clean house…fire Gee and Smith before these idiots do any more damage to the reputation of OSU.

  11. BrownsTown says: Oct 5, 2011 5:15 PM

    Smith, as the Athletic Director, is fair game, but why do people think that a university President should lose his job over football matters? Some perspective, please.

    His comments were arrogant and he would be better off with some humility, but few people acknowledge that most of these violations were self-reported. In one breath, we say this stuff happens everywhere. In the next, we criticize a school that airs their dirty laundry to the NCAA (Tressel’s “Tatgate” knowledge aside). So which is it?

  12. ihateannouncers says: Oct 5, 2011 5:22 PM

    Why can’t he just shut the hell up?? The only poster you should be on is for ignorance, and inability to learn your lesson on statements to the media on ANYTHING concerning football!!

  13. 78lion says: Oct 5, 2011 5:24 PM

    The only thing the poster of OSU compliance has in common with a poster child is on a milk carton.

    MISSING

  14. hooptie says: Oct 5, 2011 5:51 PM

    Everyday something new….

    Gordo – keep your mouth shut.

    Signed,
    The Little Sisters of the Poor

  15. olskool711 says: Oct 5, 2011 7:02 PM

    I can’t remember the last time I was at a total loss for words.

    Saturday Night Live could do a full hour and half show on this kook.

  16. southernpatriots says: Oct 5, 2011 7:47 PM

    olskool711: My brother said the same thing that it made him speechless, and then suggested that they could start a new soap opera on day time tv with this character.

  17. thegonz13 says: Oct 5, 2011 8:00 PM

    And this Gee guy is the poster child for arrogance, hypocrisy and utter stupidity!

  18. TxGrown says: Oct 5, 2011 8:19 PM

    southernpatriots says: Oct 5, 2011 7:47 PM

    olskool711: My brother said the same thing that it made him speechless, and then suggested that they could start a new soap opera on day time tv with this character.
    —————————————————————————————————
    And they could call it…”E. Gordon Gee, Spin Doctor” MD. M.D. (Mostly Delusional).

  19. dcroz says: Oct 5, 2011 8:50 PM

    I would say that Gee reminds me of Nero fiddling while Rome burned, but instead of getting the point, he’d just say that Nero was not in Rome at the time of the fire that destroyed much of the city in 64 A.D. and that the violin had not yet been invented.

  20. southernpatriots says: Oct 5, 2011 8:57 PM

    TxGrown: That’s good. It would be good to start something positive inspired by this man and his statements.

  21. polegojim says: Oct 5, 2011 9:24 PM

    @dkhuey – i feel for you and other true OSU fans….

    My struggle is… which other university in the country continues to have these issues… fresh, right now, seemingly unceasing?

    I don’t think the house cleaning when far enough up the ladder.

  22. southernpatriots says: Oct 5, 2011 9:46 PM

    polegojim: You are quite correct. This is like a cruel joke by someone. Like a water torture…drip….drip…drip…this is sad for such a faithful fan base, a legendary athletic program (not just football), a great university…it is so sad.

  23. cometkazie says: Oct 5, 2011 10:28 PM

    It isn’t over until it’s over.

    More will be revealed.

    It’s sad for the people that really matter – the kids and the fans.

  24. burntorangehorn says: Oct 5, 2011 11:34 PM

    These remarks are very disingenuous. Gee is acting like compliance is entirely about reaction, when in fact a program that really takes compliance seriously institutes preventive measures.

    Want a good read from a former student-athlete’s perspective on compliance?

    http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/2011/05/31/texas-football-and-institutional-control/

  25. lbijake says: Oct 6, 2011 12:43 AM

    Gee, the Brett Favre of College Presidents.

  26. latrobe21 says: Oct 6, 2011 8:33 AM

    and Gee is a poster boy for idiots . . .

  27. southernpatriots says: Oct 6, 2011 8:42 AM

    latrobe21: That is good!

    We had tried to think of something similar but could not think with clarity as you have. We did not want to offend those with physical or mental challenges, through no fault of their own.

    Like our late father used to say, “some people are ignorant, others are willingly ignorant…but we call that stupid!”

  28. harveyballwanger says: Oct 6, 2011 8:47 AM

    Gee reminds me of the guy from Iraq that said they weren’t being invaded while we were already there.

  29. southernpatriots says: Oct 6, 2011 9:22 AM

    harveywallwanger: Yes, indeed. What a moron! Great comparison… I think that was Saddam’s Information Minister–Mohammed Saeed al-Sahhaf. We used to call him Saddam’s Misinformation Minister.

  30. dkhhuey says: Oct 6, 2011 12:10 PM

    @pole and southernpats – Like I said earlier, its going to be a long freakin season!!! We will get through it and we will return to the top of the rankings very soon! As I say to all of my Big Ten buddies – get your kicks in now because OSU will be back to kickin a$$ quickly!

  31. southernpatriots says: Oct 6, 2011 1:26 PM

    dkhhuey: Agree. However, it may take a change, such as with Meyer. Meyer would give recruiting a great boost, the boosters and fans new excitement, and the players a kick in the seats!

    All our best in rebuilding and getting back to solid and superb football. Must schedule Alabama, Florida, LSU, etc. for more than a bowl. Meyer would do that. He knows the competition is good for toughening and recruiting.

  32. critter69 says: Oct 6, 2011 1:45 PM

    Sorry to say pacific123ocean, but OSU and an implication that OSU has a good reputation do NOT belong in the same sentence, or paragraph, or even on the same page. To imply that OSU’s reputation is anything but the bottom of the barrel is to imply a falsehood.

    And, no, I’m not a Michigan fan (but I do support another Big 10 team).

  33. critter69 says: Oct 6, 2011 2:00 PM

    ‘brownstown’ wrote:
    “. . . few people acknowledge that most of these violations were self-reported.”

    Self-reported why? Maybe because the beans were about to spill, and they wanted to ‘get ahead of the situation’ just to try to gain a few ‘brownie points’ for self-reporting?

    And you acknowledge that “most” were ‘self-reported’. Most? Not all? How many violations did they find out about, but cover up, since they knew that the violations wouldn’t amount to a hill of beans, or were not about to be discovered, or whatever?

    Just who brought to light, and by what means, the violations that were brought to light, but were not self-reported by OSU? And since OSU self-reported some, why did they not self-report all violations?

  34. critter69 says: Oct 6, 2011 2:04 PM

    ‘cometkazie’ wrote:
    “the people that really matter – the kids and the fans.”

    The kids who attend the university for an education, and the fans of the University AS a university, not an athletic miasma of moral turpitude.

  35. mhalt99 says: Oct 6, 2011 2:07 PM

    we are “The Ohio State” and we can do whatever the he!! we want. college football needs us way more than we need them……….

    This attitude actually starts with Dolan over at UM and head of the Big 10. Remember a few years ago when UM & OSU were 1&2 and he basically said that every other conference and league sucks except for maybe Notre Dame and USC……….

  36. dkhhuey says: Oct 6, 2011 2:57 PM

    @critter – wrong! OSU has always been at the top of the list for self reporting violations long before these came to light. You can argue all your life whether you believe that the compliance department competencies in their duties but the facts are facts – when they find out about a violation, they are the ones who call up the NCAA.

    @southernpats – Agreed and that is what we are all hoping will happen! I have to believe that Urban did not just up and move to Columbus because of the weather there!!! I love Luke but it is painfully obvious that he is in over his head at OSU. I can only hope that if Urban does get the job, Luke and Mike Vrabel will remain!!! The rest of the staff has to go! I have been so incredibly pissed Jim Bollman and his horrid offensive game plan and play calling that after the Michigan State game I felt like getting on a plane, flying back to Columbus, and kicking him in the filberts!

  37. southernpatriots says: Oct 6, 2011 3:45 PM

    dkhhuey: We are with you…somehow we cannot believe Meyer would send his daughter to tOSU, move himself, wife et al to Columbus from Florida without having an eye toward the job there and having already spoken to somebody (ies) about a job there, likely beginning next season. We had to get rid of our OC last year who helped us to 100th to 120th offense! Beyond pitiful! At least you guys don’t have to deal with that.

  38. brutusbuckeye2011 says: Oct 6, 2011 5:01 PM

    I don’t know how much Florida paid Meyer, but I’m sure he will demand a lot more money from OSU.

  39. brutusbuckeye2011 says: Oct 6, 2011 5:08 PM

    To all of you Holier than Thou OSU bashers:
    Are you really trying to say that OSU is the only team that has players who broke the rules regarding compensation, etc.? This has been a problem in college football since long before any of us were born. I would be willing to bet that there is hardly a team in the country that doesn’t have the same problem.

  40. paulbrownsrevenge says: Oct 7, 2011 12:26 AM

    What kind of message would hiring Urban Meyer send to the NCAA about OSU’s compliance reform? The guy had more players arrested at Florida than any other team in America during his tenure!

  41. paulbrownsrevenge says: Oct 7, 2011 12:33 AM

    No one knew who Jim Tressel was when he got the job at OSU, No one knew who the heck Chip Kelly was. There are plenty of other options for OSU than Urban Meyer. I’d take Peterson from Boise over Meyer. Peterson gets the most out of Boise talent, Imagine how well he would develop OSU’s.

    Whoever Ohio State hires, I hope he runs a real offense. I’m sick of the spread sissy ball. Line up under center, double tight ends, run the ball. Smashmouth football wins games. Use Stanford as a template.

  42. southernpatriots says: Oct 7, 2011 7:24 AM

    brutusbuckeye2011: Over recent years, Brown of Texas and Stoops of Oklahoma have traded being the highest paid major college football coaches, each now receiving about $6 million per year. Urban Meyer may ask for and receive about that much. He may opt for incentive/performace bonuses (like Les Miles)…for winning the Big 10, wining 10 and 11 games, defeating Michigan and/or Nebraska and/or Wisconsin, winning a bowl, and a big bonus for winning the BCS NC.

    A pro-style offense is in vogue now, or the old I which LSU uses and few teams face any longer.

  43. blueinok says: Oct 7, 2011 10:18 AM

    Paul I hear Rich Rod is available :)

  44. dkhhuey says: Oct 7, 2011 10:30 AM

    @paulbrown – Peterson will never leave Spudsville – there is absolutely no reason too. He is pretty much achieved a god like status there and receives little or no criticism. At OSU, regardless of the outcome on the field, there are always a throng of people whining and complaining even in victory. The spotlight is much brighter and much hotter at OSU and there is always a target on your back – I think Peterson enjoys the ‘underdog / nobody takes us serious’ role.

    Gainesville is a much different environment than Columbus. You will NEVER eliminate the issues surrounding kids getting into trouble, but I highly doubt the numbers will be even remotely as close at OSU as he had in Fla. Obviously that is just my opinion. Urban has WAY more on the Pro side of the ledger than he does in the Con side.

    @bluein – I just threw up a bit into the back of my mouth!

  45. brutusbuckeye2011 says: Oct 7, 2011 12:42 PM

    @paulbrownsrevenge and dkhhuey
    I agree with both of you about Peterson. Maybe a 1 or 2 million dollar raise will make him want to give up potatoes for buckeye nuts. One problem is that Boise just had football compliance issues and OSU may be afraid to hire him. Granted that the football issues were a little ridiculous for the NCAA to complain, but they were compliance issues.

  46. butlers91 says: Oct 7, 2011 2:48 PM

    That is about on par with TransOcean declaring 2010 “their safest year ever” and handing out safety bonuses. Oh, that whole oil spill in the gulf…“These are failures of individuals, not a systemic failure of safety on our part”

  47. paulbrownsrevenge says: Oct 8, 2011 12:37 AM

    @dkhhuey,

    What do you think about Carl Pelini? I have no doubts about Urban’s coaching abilities. I just think it would make us look desperate. There are plenty of other capable guys worthy of the opportunity. Let Urban go to PSU. I wish Dantonio would have hung around a little longer. I liked him alot.

    @blueinok

    I have a very good friend who is a huge Michigan fan, I’ll never forget the look on his face when DickRod got the gig. I’ve never seen a man so emotionless. I felt like my living room turned into a funeral parlor for about 10 minutes.

  48. thekatman says: Oct 9, 2011 2:22 PM

    If Ohio State is serious sbout fostering an era of compliance then all student athletes who have committed infraction need to be let go, no matter the sport. Also, the university should fired Gee, Smith and the Povost. Get rid of the bad influence and peronnel who have fostered a failure to monitor and a lack of instituional control OSU’s athleyics programs. Start from scratch and move on; otherwise, the blood letting will continnue. A slow and embarrassing death will be the memories of all OSU fans and alumni for many years to come if these folks remain a part of the university. OSU athleticsmis out of control.

    It’s time to cut bait, Buckeyes, and move onward to a new era.

  49. dkhhuey says: Oct 10, 2011 11:10 AM

    @ paul – I would have no problem with Bo but I’m guessing he is happy at Nebraska right now!

    Urban makes the most sense in all facets. The most important is with the instant credibility he establishes the second it would be announced. Another HUGE benefit would be in the recruiting arena. Right now, OSU looks lost with an uncertain future – that translates in recruits looking elsewhere. Urban not only puts a stop to that, he totally reverses that trend and OSU instantly becomes the place to go. I don’t see any of that buzz coming with a Bo hire!

  50. southernpatriots says: Oct 10, 2011 11:26 AM

    dkhhuey: tOSU should be courting Meyer at this time, and solidifying his commitment to tOSU since if there is any wind or suspicion that he is available, offers and money will start flowing toward him to entice his elsewhere and we don’t believe you or anyone else would need much imagination to know some of those other schools who would be making offers.

    All the reasons and more are why Meyer would be a great hire. We watched the last quarter of game again with stop and slow frames. It was far worse that we had seen in our first live viewing of the Nebraska game. Our first viewing we thought Ohio State fell apart and gave away the game to Nebraska. That remains the general impression, but the specifics are many dozens. Easy missed tackles, blown coverage, poor defense for the offensive set and plays preceeding and habitual patterns that should have been noted and compensated for.

    Defensive failure in fourth quarter oftentimes results from lack of proper conditioning. Lack of proper conditioning can result in a half step or step slower in the 4th resulting in missed tackles, missed opporunities, poor executions.

    If Meyer sees a lack of conditioning from his observations of the present team, he can whip them into condition. If he has any trouble doing so in Columbus he can always to go Florida or if he wants it even hotter with greater humidity go where LSU conditions and trains. This summer it was 85 to 90% humdity and temps reaching 101 F in south Louisiana. That either gets you into shape on 2 a days or kills you (that is what one LSU player said this summer).

  51. brutusbuckeye2011 says: Oct 10, 2011 1:23 PM

    @southernpatriots:
    I agree with your comments. One thing that is overlooked by most people is that the OSU defense is very young and inexperienced. The Buckeyes lost a lot of players to graduation and the NFL last year. The offense was expected to carry the team while the OSU defense reloaded. Thanks to Pryor and his gang the offense was decimated; hence, a weakened defense is trying to carry the team. It certainly doesn’t help that Tressel is gone.

  52. southernpatriots says: Oct 10, 2011 1:53 PM

    brutusbuckeye2011: There is no doubt these many situations decimated the offense and coaching ranks. Thus, the need for a change, a good time for a big change. tOSU needs to be speaking with Meyer at this moment on the QT and making sure they have him, rather than allow the rest of this season to go by and another school, maybe one nearby sees their opportunity and signs him.

    Gene Smith needs to meet with Meyer and discuss his future with tOSU and not waste time.

  53. dkhhuey says: Oct 10, 2011 5:53 PM

    @southern pats

    I have to believe most, if not all, the powers to be from OSU were up in the booth during the opening game against Akron with Urban calling the game. I’m guessing the conversation went somewhere on the lines of – we want you as the new coach at OSU where money is not an object – we will call you up the second the season is over!

  54. southernpatriots says: Oct 10, 2011 7:16 PM

    dkh: They can make the “official” call when the season is over, but they had better be making “unofficial” calls right now before another Big 10 schools grabs him. There are some programs down South who would pay him what ever he asks. None of these schools will wait until the Ohio State season is over to make contacts and try to persuade him.

    “…with Urban calling the game.”…ha. That is precious!

  55. cometkazie says: Oct 10, 2011 7:46 PM

    southernpatriots says:
    Oct 10, 2011 7:16 PM
    dkh: They can make the “official” call when the season is over, but they had better be making “unofficial” calls right now before another Big 10 schools grabs him. There are some programs down South who would pay him what ever he asks. None of these schools will wait until the Ohio State season is over to make contacts and try to persuade him.
    +=+=+=+

    I bet he wouldn’t go to Oxford no matter what the $$$ was. That seems to be a black hole, a good place to be from.

  56. southernpatriots says: Oct 10, 2011 8:42 PM

    cometkazie: Meyer is already rumored to received inquiry from some Penn State faithful. That one is a little sticky where maybe venerable JoePa wants his son retained when his son should be one of the first to be sent packing.

    Well, you know Oxford is another world. We would “hate” him to go there, but how about Athens? UGA has a great history, some great teams of the past and with the proper guidance could be back there again (yes, brother in law, we believe your alma mater could be relevant again! ha.)

    Urban Meyer could coach just about anywhere but we doubt he would take over any program anywhere unless he was convinced that the president and AD were committed toward excellence with a push toward not only winning the conference championship but also the national championship.

    Meyer knows what it takes and if he doesn’t see that in Ohio State or anywhere, we don’t think he will get back into coaching. If he does, he probably will. Gene Smith should be at Urban’s front door, drinks in hand, hat in hand, and sit with him and enjoy some moments in the fall breeze talking about the future of Ohio State football and Urban Meyer’s part in it.

  57. dkhhuey says: Oct 11, 2011 10:50 AM

    My guess is that Gee, Smith, and Archie already have their lips firmly placed on his behind since this fiasco started to unfold and that an agreement was reached to hold off on any decisions until the end of the year when they can make it all official. ‘m also betting that Chris Speilman, Chris Carter, Robert Smith, Kirk Herbstreit, and Lou Holtz have been talking about it to him as well! Personally, (I may be a weeeee bit biased here – just saying) Urban would be crazy to not wait in order to see what awaits him at OSU.

  58. southernpatriots says: Oct 11, 2011 11:48 AM

    We think your guess is correct. In these conversations, we would be shocked if the two parties did not discuss money and support from the president and AD in all matters…likely even giving him carte blanche in all personel matters which would normally fall into the ADs lap.

    It is fine to be a weeeee bit biased, we are a whole lot biased on many things(ha) but we agree…Urban is not crazy, he is smart like a fox, even tantamount to a genius in some ways, so if the private conversations went the way we think they went by OSU, Urban WILL wait.

    He is not hurting for money, he is not hurting for anything, so he can afford to wait. This would be a huge coup for tOSU and they could play it to the hilt (national news media, ESPN for a couple of weeks–dribble out news stories–Meyer hired, Meyer arrives on campus ready to begin work, Meyer starts calling recruits, Meyer meets with governor, Meyer assumes new offices, Meyer walks field, looking out into destiny, Meyer….)

    We KNOW there would be a huge audience down South for the first games OSU played anyone, but most especially Michigan, Wisconsin, and Nebraska. Huge. With all the huge publicity surrounding his hiring there would be a huge audience all around the U.S.

  59. dkhhuey says: Oct 11, 2011 12:43 PM

    @southernpats – there are just too many fingers pointing to Urban being the next coach at OSU – the biggest one is solely in the fact that he moved his family to Columbus! Even if he couldn’t stand living in Florida any longer and felt the need to leave – why the hell would you pick Columbus Ohio as your destination? Don’t get me wrong, I was born and raised there and have absolutely nothing bad to say about it as a place to live and raise a family- however, it isn’t the normal ‘destination’ for somebody that is not restrained by work or financial concerns!!!

  60. southernpatriots says: Oct 11, 2011 12:56 PM

    dkh: We agree. Of course, we could say the same thing about Baton Rouge, even maybe more so. We sure hope it works out for OSU and for the sake of college football as a whole. Such great coaching talent on the sidelines is a shame unless he really wants to be.

  61. bucsraysboltsfan says: Oct 11, 2011 6:40 PM

    How about a “Wanted” poster? That seems fitting.

  62. sorosbolshevism says: Oct 12, 2011 12:08 PM

    What a joke! Just check out what Boise State got hit with for letting incoming freshmen sleep on a teammate’s couch/floor!

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