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Lone Star Showdown still has a chance to survive

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With Texas A&M departing for the SEC next year, the future of the Thanksgiving game between the Aggies and Texas has been placed in jeopardy. A&M has made it clear that, despite it being an out-of-conference game, they want the series to continue. So far, Texas hasn’t quite reciprocated that level of optimism.

But the Lone Star Showdown may continue yet. Kirk Bohls of the Austin-American Statesman tweets this morning that A&M president R. Bowen Loftin (aka, the apple of Mike Slive‘s eye) authorized school AD Bill Byrne to approach Texas AD DeLoss Dodds about playing the game next season. Exactly when that game would be played, though, remains up in the air.

We’re open to a date that meets all our needs,” Loftin told Bohls.

It’s unclear how much interest, if any, Texas has in keeping the rivalry going. The general consensus from Austin feels like they believe the proverbial A&M ship has sailed, but if the Aggies show enough interest and flexibility — Slive has supported the Thanksgiving game as well — then the game might still have a chance. Texas, after all, still plans to play on Thanksgiving and interim Big 12 commissioner Chuck Neinas has endorsed those plans.

If the two sides can make it work, then there doesn’t seem to be much of a reason to discontinue the game.

As for Big 12/SEC relations on a grander scale, Loftin added he doesn’t “think it’s likely to see another team join SEC and move by July 2012.” Neinas has stated as much, claiming the conference is looking at a 10-team Big 12 for next year. Missouri could make a decision on their conference affiliation late next week, the Columbia Daily Tribune reported, but Neinas says Mizzou essentially has until May of 2012 to make a decision.

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24 Responses to “Lone Star Showdown still has a chance to survive”
  1. burntorangehorn says: Oct 14, 2011 1:00 PM

    It’s like the undesirable ex-girlfriend who still wants to be friends with benefits.

  2. vegasrobert says: Oct 14, 2011 1:17 PM

    exactly.. we have no interest. u wanted out, now u want us to bend over backwards to keep seeing your sorry ars… no thanks.. it’s over. move on . .. we have.

  3. gr8whte says: Oct 14, 2011 1:18 PM

    A&M can go play in traffic. Hook em horns!!!

  4. deadeye says: Oct 14, 2011 2:37 PM

    The poor Longhorn fans all feel jilted. Well, at least you’ll get to play WVU and Loisville instead of TAMU and Missouri.

  5. fordman84 says: Oct 14, 2011 3:43 PM

    Hey, if I were Texas I would want to get out of the game too. It is a competitive game, and Texas doesn’t want to have any non-conference games that aren’t cakewalks.

  6. burntorangehorn says: Oct 14, 2011 3:46 PM

    Jilted? Eh, little brother can take his absurd freakshow elsewhere. SEC fans are going to love the male-only cheerleaders, penis-grabbing lines, and cult-like ROTC program elsewhere.

  7. burntorangehorn says: Oct 14, 2011 3:58 PM

    fordman84: you mean like the games they’ve scheduled with Ole Miss, Arkansas, BYU, Notre Dame, Maryland, and USC? Heck, even UCF can’t be considered a cakewalk. You’re ignoring the fact.

    http://www.nationalchamps.net/NCAA/future_schedules/texas_future.htm

  8. thefiesty1 says: Oct 14, 2011 4:05 PM

    If the Ags REALLY want to continue this rivalry then they need to agree to play at Texas every year and have it televised on the Longhorn Network. HA!

    A game with UT every year might pad their season record to maybe 4-8 or 5-7 (as they occasionally win the Thanksgiving game. Gives them a CHANCE to improve their (soon to be) annual poor record in the SEC.

  9. ranksarot says: Oct 14, 2011 5:39 PM

    aggies entire history, traditions, even their fight song is designed and based around the ut “rivalry”. of course they want the game to continue. texas should bleed them dry on the money side. aggies will give up big bucks just so they can keep sawing varsity’s horns off. are there any horns even in the SEC?

  10. samzydeco says: Oct 14, 2011 5:59 PM

    Of course this game continues – makes too much money not to.
    And you Longhorn fans act like your athletic department still gets to decide who you play non-conference. You sold that right for $300 large. Mickey Mouse decides who you play and having A&M on the schedule helps your parent corporation recoup a small percentage of their idiotic “investment”. No more North Texas Mean Green for you t-sips.

  11. burntorangehorn says: Oct 14, 2011 6:04 PM

    samzydeco, show me any evidence that ESPN has the contractual right to make unilateral decisions about the Texas non-conference schedule.

    No more riding big brother’s coattails, agricult.

  12. Deb says: Oct 14, 2011 6:54 PM

    You Longhorn fans are hysterical. A&M left a conference, not a love affair. You’re the ones who keep using the jilted lover analogies. If that’s the case … Texas is the guy left at the altar holding a worthless ring.

    Quit being such babies and keep playing your traditional rivalry. Sure sounds like you have enough hate for it.

  13. burntorangehorn says: Oct 14, 2011 7:14 PM

    Deb–Hate? No, it’s actually closer to eye-rolling apathy. The farmers decided to leave for their cake, and now they want to eat it too. Why reward them for walking out on the conference, leaving it to almost collapse? You’re acting like it wasn’t the agricult that decided to end the status quo. Now they’re just posturing and whining, and even have two alumni state legislators trying to introduce bills that would require Texas to keep playing. It’s fine that they stepped aside and didn’t interfere when the ags wanted to leave the SEC, but why the double-standard? Why act now, but not then? Furthermore, aggie is treating Baylor and Tech with the same indifference as Texas is treating aggie, so they’re very much the pot calling the kettle black. They’re a bunch of babies, and if a baby gets what it wants every time it cries, it just reinforces the behavior.

    Story: http://www.yourhoustonnews.com/courier/news/williams-legislature-should-continue-horns-aggies-football-rivalry/article_045c0bc4-e85a-11e0-b43c-001cc4c002e0.html

    Texas isn’t going to breach its contracts to make room for them. As I posted above, Texas has three non-conference games already under contract for every year through 2017, two already on the docket for 2018, Notre Dame already set for 2019-2020, and significant time already devoted to scheduling teams to fill the remaining five slots for those 2018-2020.

    In fact, Deloss Dodds actually told Bill Byrne exactly that today at the state capitol. There’s no room on the schedule until 2018 at the earliest.

    Story:

    http://blog.chron.com/aggies/2011/10/byrne-horns-decline-to-face-aggies-through-at-least-18/

  14. samzydeco says: Oct 14, 2011 7:18 PM

    B.O. Horn-
    Is everything you do at your bosses request (or everything you request of your employees) spelled out contractually? Didn’t think so.
    I’m sure ESPN would be thrilled showcasing your Longhorns vs. Wyoming. No, from now on BEVO plays who Mickey says. In fact, let’s replace those horns with mouse ears!

  15. burntorangehorn says: Oct 14, 2011 7:26 PM

    What an immature response. You made a statement that apparently has no foundation. It appears to be a false statement, because there’s no indication that what you said is the case.

  16. samzydeco says: Oct 14, 2011 7:45 PM

    New Mexico State, UTEP, New Mexico, North Texas – wow. The Longhorns did have the guts to schedule one SEC opponent – Ole Miss. Last place.
    We will see how many of these games stay on the schedule – we’ve all seen these small schools take a check to agree to cancel and the Longhorns schedule will toughen up.

  17. kylefield says: Oct 14, 2011 9:17 PM

    None of you burnt orange freaks said anything about tu causing the near collapse of the big xii last year. Why is that? A&M caused touting have to stay because the package 10 wasn’t where we wanted to be. Now your stick on a mid tier conference with only the ok state schools that really matter. Get over yourselves. You don’t want to play is, fine. Remind me again, didn’t tu cancel a game with TCU because it was to hard.?

  18. Deb says: Oct 14, 2011 9:46 PM

    Oh for heaven’s sake, burntorangehorn. A&M made a business decision to leave a conference. They didn’t sleep with someone else. The Lone Star Showdown is a football game that generates revenue for both schools. Play it or don’t play it, but adults make those decisions based on rivalry and revenues, not on whether their noses are out of joint.

    This behavior is mind-blowingly juvenile. But if you insist … it took only a few years for Ravens/Steelers to become one of the most exciting rivalries in the NFL. I’m sure the SEC can fill the void and stir up other rivalries for the Aggies. A&M will survive just fine without you. :roll:

  19. digit960 says: Oct 15, 2011 2:19 AM

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  20. burntorangehorn says: Oct 15, 2011 12:50 PM

    Deb–What’s juvenile? Texas made a business decision to not breach contracts they have already signed for every available non-conference slot between now and 2018. What’s juvenile is crying to the state legislature to try to force Texas to breach contracts so there’s room for games with aggie. What’s juvenile is leaving the conference for business reasons, then running a PR campaign to shift the blame on Texas.

  21. burntorangehorn says: Oct 15, 2011 12:55 PM

    kylefield says:
    Oct 14, 2011 9:17 PM
    None of you burnt orange freaks said anything about tu causing the near collapse of the big xii last year. Why is that? A&M caused touting have to stay because the package 10 wasn’t where we wanted to be. Now your stick on a mid tier conference with only the ok state schools that really matter. Get over yourselves. You don’t want to play is, fine. Remind me again, didn’t tu cancel a game with TCU because it was to hard.?
    =================================
    That wasn’t Texas, genius. It was Missouri that started it by lifting her skirt to the Big Ten. Then the group of Texas, you dirt farmers, and the Okie schools, being understandably concerned about conference stability in light of talks between NU, Mizzou, and the Big Ten, explored options with the Pac-10. Ultimately Texas decided their must-haves and the Pac 10′s must-haves were not compatible, and elected to instead broker a deal to keep the Big 12 together.

    Brush up on your realignment timelines before using your keyboard.

  22. samzydeco says: Oct 15, 2011 12:56 PM

    “the decision will not be made by one person”, Dodds said.

  23. Deb says: Oct 15, 2011 10:56 PM

    @burntorangehorn …

    I know NCAA games are tentatively scheduled years in advance, but there’s some wiggle room–largely because a hugely competitive team wouldn’t want to be inescapably committed so far in advance to a team that wound up on probation for several years or to one that just took a nosedive to the bottom of the standings. A game that looked like a big draw in 2011 might not be lucrative in 2018.

    No one is shifting the blame onto Texas about this–unless Texas creates an issue for no reason. A&M has left the conference. Period. Now, as an SEC member, the school has approached Texas about continuing a long-standing and mutually beneficial annual rivalry as an OOC game. That should be a no-brainer. I seriously doubt much tweaking would be necessary to restore A&M to the Texas schedule as an OOC game. It might be an issue for the first couple of years, but that would just make the game more exciting when the series resumed in 2014 or 2015.

    But by declaring the Longhorn Showdown dead, Texas–if that’s what the school is doing–and the Texas fans on CFT are absolutely acting like children. You’re mad because your playmates went out for a different Pee Wee league so you’re never going to play with them again. So there! :P

    It’s absurd.

  24. stevo2440 says: Oct 16, 2011 10:45 AM

    All the horn fans want to blame the Aggies for the death of tradition. But they forget one thing, if they hadn’t started getting greedy in the first place, we all still be happy Big 12 players.

    The point is proven by the PAC 12 rejection of them. NO ONE wants this LH network!!! Get it!!?? That’s the root of it all. And because the Aggies actually went out and did something no horn thought was possible without them, they feel jilted. We’ll be fine without tu. LSU, Alabama, Arkansas will do just fine for us. We’re the ones moving on! But yes we would like I see the game in some form. We know y’all won’t let that happen though. But I’m sure you’ll find time for Rice, and UofH. Oh wait, no Deloss doesn’t allow for Houston either because he had a pair of shoes ruined walking across a parking lot years ago while playing the Cougs! Jilted!

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