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Report: Big 12 has West Virginia lined up to replace Mizzou

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The Big 12 has yet to officially lose Mizzouri to the SEC, but the conference has already reportedly lined up a replacement should the expected move happen.

Take it with whatever size grain of salt you deem necessary, but the New York Post is reporting that the Big 12’s plans for expansion/holding steady entail keeping Missouri for the 2012 season and then adding West Virginia the following year.  How the Big 12 plans to bypass the Big East 27-month requirement for schools leaving the conference is unknown; earlier this month, commissioner John Marinatto made it clear that the Big East will hold Pittsburgh and Syracuse, which have announced their plans to leave for the ACC, to the timeline contained in the league’s bylaws.

It’s assumed the Mountaineers, if the report is accurate and they decide to move on from the Big East, would be held to the same 27-month wait, which would mean the 2015-2016 school year before an exit could occur.  Of course, money always talks in these types of situations, so all three schools will likely end up paying significant financial penalties in order to get out earlier.

As noted by an unnamed source to the Post, WVU’s departure would be a crippling blow to a conference that’s already lost three members — TCU reneged on a commitment to the Big East in favor of a Big 12 invite — in less than two months, leaving the beleaguered league with just six football-playing members.

“Of all the schools the league has lost, from a football standpoint losing West Virginia would be the most damaging,” a source told The Post. “Despite what anyone says, that’s the program the league has hung its hat on.”

It has previously been reported that the Big East will invite Boise State, Air Force and Navy as football-playing members and UCF, SMU and Houston as members in all sports.  It’s unclear how the uncertainty over the Mountaineers’ longterm viability in the Big East would affect those schools’ mindset in signing on to such an unstable environment, especially Boise State, whose concerns about the conference about the conference losing its automatic qualifier status in the BcS have been duly noted.

If Boise State decides to remain in the Mountain West… if West Virginia leaves… if the Big 12 decides to expand to 16 members and adds Louisville and Cincinnati as the Post reports is a possibility in such a scenario, the Big East as a football conference, let alone as an automatic qualifying conference, will cease to exist.

Of course, this is all predicated on Missouri and if/when they decide to make a decision on their future conference affiliation.  Based on how that school’s chancellor parsed his words Monday, it now appears to be only a matter of when not if they announce a move to the SEC.

“[The Big 12 is] making some of the right moves, now, that are necessary for the Big 12 to do, and I wish them the best and all of that. So we’ll see where that goes,” Brady Deaton said following a meeting of the Big 12 Board of Directors Monday night.

UPDATED 12:39 p.m. ET: Both the New York Times and CBS Sports.com are confirming the Post‘s report, that West Virginia is the Big 12’s target should Mizzou do the expected and leave.  The former writes that WVU has “applied and are accepted” into the Big 12; the latter reports that an official invitation will be extended to WVU within 24-48 hours after Mizzou notifies the conference of its intent to withdraw.

As for when Mizzou will spit or get off the expansion pot, Deaton said today that a public decision will be forthcoming in “days or possibly a week or two“, although again his words point to the SEC being in his school’s future.

“We’ve reached firmness in where we are headed,” Deaton said, “where we want to analyze and focus our attention.”

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28 Responses to “Report: Big 12 has West Virginia lined up to replace Mizzou”
  1. southernpatriots says: Oct 25, 2011 10:31 AM

    This is suprising. The Big 12 is acting quickly. In contrast, the SEC acts slowly. We hope this is the right move for the Mountaineers. We met alot of new and good friends in Baton Rouge last year and wish all well with this move from the Big East. WVU was the football and athletic anchor of the Big East and with them gone, maybe the Big East should become a basketball only conference.

  2. deadeye says: Oct 25, 2011 10:42 AM

    I don’t understand why Deaton would not have officialy notified the BIG12 that Mizzou was conditionally withdrawing. Only two scenarios seem plausible: first is that he did withdraw and both sides agreed to keep it secret for the short term, or second the BIG12 is putting so much pressure on Mizzou to stay that Deaton is having second thoughts.

    I can’t blame the BIG12 for whatever pressure they are leveraging because IMO Missouri is probably the tipping point for the BIG12 to ultimately dissolve. Strangely, it seems as though the stakes are higher for Mizzou to leave than it was for TAMU.

  3. wvuandsteelers says: Oct 25, 2011 10:50 AM

    I hope this is true. My concern is the Big East is going to be Conference USA II. Moving to the Big 12 gives you Texas and Oklahoma who seem to always be good. Plus, we seem to be doing more recruiting in Texas (Millard and our recent recruit Childress are the future at the QB position). Plus, Dana H and Oliver Luck have histories in Texas.

    I just have to figure out who to hate since we don’t have Pitt around any more.

  4. fitz66 says: Oct 25, 2011 10:52 AM

    Good move for both school and conference. WVU should get a severe boost in recruiting in Ohio/DC/PA areas and the B12 gets a better, more competitive team with a rabid fan base.

    You have to wonder how long this was in the works – with Luck’s ties to the area and the fact they hired a B12 coach.

    It’ll take a year or two until they’re on top but they’ll get there.

  5. judge41 says: Oct 25, 2011 11:14 AM

    Agree with SP. if WV bolts, the big east should drop football.

    The leftovers could join the superconference USA, which is also football only.

  6. wvuandsteelers says: Oct 25, 2011 11:24 AM

    I figure UConn eventually lands in the ACC for basketball reasons. Rutgers probably goes Big 10. S Fl, Louisville and Cincy are most likely Conf USA.

  7. sportsdrenched.com says: Oct 25, 2011 11:37 AM

    I don’t understand why Deaton would not have officialy notified the BIG12 that Mizzou was conditionally withdrawing. Only two scenarios seem plausible:

    OR the SEC hasn’t extended the invitation yet. The last I heard on this subject was there were not enough votes to get Missouri in, but the situation is fluid.

    West Virginia in the Big 12? ehhh. Of course those are pretty much my feelings on Missouri too. Push.

  8. deadeye says: Oct 25, 2011 11:50 AM

    “OR the SEC hasn’t extended the invitation yet. The last I heard on this subject was there were not enough votes to get Missouri in, but the situation is fluid. ”

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    My understanding is that the university has to apply to the SEC before the SEC can officially extend an invitation. I’m pretty sure that’s how it went for TAMU. Or are you suggesting that behind the scenes the SEC is still trying to decide whether or not to extend an unofficial invitation? If so, I had heard that Alabama was fine with Mizzou as long they were going to ener the East division.

  9. fcmlefty1 says: Oct 25, 2011 12:00 PM

    One could argue that TCU and WV > A&M and Mizzou, at least as far as football goes. For as dead in the water as the Big 12 looked 6 weeks ago, this is one heck of a recovery in my opinion.

  10. blakebuchanan87 says: Oct 25, 2011 12:07 PM

    There are so many reports reporting this team or that team is going to the Big XII. First it was Louisville or BYU, then WVU. Then yesterday, Sporting News reported it could be USF. So, I’m here to report that we have no idea.

  11. sportsdrenched.com says: Oct 25, 2011 12:32 PM

    My understanding is that the university has to apply to the SEC before the SEC can officially extend an invitation. I’m pretty sure that’s how it went for TAMU. Or are you suggesting that behind the scenes the SEC is still trying to decide whether or not to extend an unofficial invitation? If so, I had heard that Alabama was fine with Mizzou as long they were going to ener the East division.

    Way I understood it is Mizzou didn’t have the votes to get in. However, that was before the 13 game schedule came out and that the AD’s were pretty annoyed with it. Thus more importance in adding a 14th team. Bama may be fine with it, but they need a super majority to make it happen.

    I would like to see Chuck give Mizzou a “Crap or get off the pot” Deadline. Big 12 can’t make any binding decisions till Mizzou does something.

  12. blastfurnaceknows says: Oct 25, 2011 12:50 PM

    If true, this only goes to prove that there isn’t any pondscum that the Big 12 isn’t willing to face plant itself in its effort to “survive.”

  13. burntorangehorn says: Oct 25, 2011 12:55 PM

    I really wish the conference would reconsider BYU, because the Sunday issue should be, well, a non-issue. But assuming the reports that they’re actually the non-starter with the conference’s media partners are accurate, then WVU represents a good recovery. Now that TCU and apparently WVU are in the fold, the ideal would be to also add Cincinnati and Louisville, bringing the conference back to twelve. Each has decent football and basketball capacities and revenues, not to mention solid markets.

  14. quizguy66 says: Oct 25, 2011 12:55 PM

    In related news, the final details are being worked out between Rutgers, Connecticut, and South Florida on the new Big Threeast Conference.
    -QG

  15. thefiesty1 says: Oct 25, 2011 1:05 PM

    This will ONLY happen if (when) Missouri makes a decision and applies to the SEC first. But Deaton seems to be vacillating and can’t make a decision. That’s what happens when someone is put in charge that doesn’t have the capacity to act.

    I like the (choice?) to add WV to the Big XII, but that’s not enough. They’ve GOT to get back to 12 and have a conference championship game ASAP. But, Neinus is apparently too feeble to get that done. He appears satisfied to go back to the Big 8.

    The Big East is DONE as a football conference either by losing WV or adding any C-USA teams.

    ALL these jerks need to get off the spot and MAKE a decision.

  16. harleyspoon says: Oct 25, 2011 1:07 PM

    I think the BIG 12 needs to go ahead and make the assumption that Missouri is gone and solidify the West Virginia matter very soon…and then go forward with Louisville and Brigham Young….That will keep the football power ranking in the top two or three…It will enhance the BIG 12 power ranking for basketball …The SEC will have 14 teams…The Big 10 has 12 and probably will get to 14 soon…PAC has 12 and probably will get to 14….The ACC has its game in hand…

  17. TxGrown says: Oct 25, 2011 1:11 PM

    @wvuandsteelers says:….
    “I just have to figure out who to hate since we don’t have Pitt around any more.”
    ———————————————————————–
    Why Texas of course! Everyone else does, it just seems come naturally. But we are use to it.

  18. wvuandsteelers says: Oct 25, 2011 1:26 PM

    @TxGrown:
    LOL. I have always kinda liked Texas. However, I learned to despise Miami when they were in the Big East, so I guess anything is possible.

    My 2 cents on if the Big 12 becomes, well, 12, I would go for Boise St and BYU. Louisville and Cincy are not bad, but I just think Boise and BYU bring a better football pedigree. Now, from a basketball standpoint, Louisville and Cincy would be MUCH better options. Heck, if you want to make basketball important, bring on UConn and Louisville. UConn and Kansas=UNC and Duke IMHO.

  19. TxGrown says: Oct 25, 2011 1:37 PM

    If it happens …WELCOME!

  20. southernpatriots says: Oct 25, 2011 1:58 PM

    Earlier today, I received a telephone call from friends who live in St. Louis. After speaking to all the family, our conversation turned to the LSU Tigers and the SEC.

    Apparently, the sports media along with the print and tv media in St. Louis is proclaiming that the University of Missouri is not going to the SEC. It appears either they have it correctly, or more likely they are reporting what they want to happen, rather than what actually is happening. Reporters are supposed to report and commentators are supposed to comment.

    When reporters begin to comment, rather than report, their credibility is in peril. As late as noon today local news in the greater St. Louis area was “reporting” that UM was not leaving the Big 12… So the drama continues.

  21. boomerdt says: Oct 25, 2011 2:03 PM

    Can’t we just invite them? I mean after all.. it’s not like we’re at 14 teams or something…..

    Lets get Louisville along the way. Just a thought. 10 in a conference sucks.

  22. deadeye says: Oct 25, 2011 2:16 PM

    “Apparently, the sports media along with the print and tv media in St. Louis is proclaiming that the University of Missouri is not going to the SEC.”

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    That’s as premature as stating that Mizzou was is already gone.

    It sounds to me as though the decision is still being made, and it won’t be final until Deaton comes out and makes an OFFICIAL statement either way. If it does turn out that Mizzou is staying, the SEC will in all likelyhood be forced to play 2012 with 13 teams, which is going to be very ungly.

    And then who does the SEC’s 14th candidate become?

  23. deadeye says: Oct 25, 2011 2:31 PM

    This is from an article posted on Power Mizzou. Deaton said this (among other things) on the radio this morning:

    “I abstained from voting under advice of legal counsel,” Deaton told David Lyle. The Chancellor went on to say he spent “the last several hours” outside the meeting, while his colleagues discussed the future of the Big 12, with or without Mizzou.

    Unless he’s blowing smoke, this clearly sounds like he’s NOT committed to returning to the BIG12, while the lack of an official announcement sounds like he’s NOT committed to leaving either. It’s up in the air, and quite possibly the WVU announcement could be swaying Mizzou into staying put.

  24. sssjim7 says: Oct 25, 2011 2:36 PM

    Personally I feel West Virginia is too far away to be an effective member of the Big 12… conference schools should be close enough together for the average fan to go to games… not just the rich or retired who can spend 2-3 days on the trip.

    There may be some who travel for the away football games, but who will go to see WV play Texas in volleyball? You may as well be in a league in Europe…

    No, the students are the real losers in the modern sports world where universities are for sale to the highest bidder.

    Just my .02
    Jim

  25. Deb says: Oct 25, 2011 4:30 PM

    I turn my back for a week and what happens? Not a bloody thing where Mizzou is concerned … and that’s exactly what I told everyone to expect. Love my alma mater but the athletic department apparently doesn’t know what the pot is for (and it’s not, um, spitting, JT ;) )

    This may already have happened while I was dealing with computer crises, but if the SEC wants an even 14, Slive need to approach Virginia Tech or tell South Carolina, Georgia, and Florida they’re not so special so we can approah Clemson, Georgia Tech, or FSU. Missouri doesn’t really want to be in the SEC–and enough is enough.

  26. deadeye says: Oct 25, 2011 4:47 PM

    “Missouri doesn’t really want to be in the SEC–and enough is enough.”

    ==============================

    That’s what it looks like Deb. Once Louisville joins the BIG12, Mizzou will announce that they are staying put.

    The SEC needs to go find #14. If I know Slive, he already has been looking and they are talking to whomever that is.

  27. cardinals1234 says: Oct 25, 2011 10:15 PM

    southernpatriots:

    not sure what news reports you are referring to…. i love in st louis, and the only word around here is that mizzou is long gone

  28. cardinals1234 says: Oct 25, 2011 10:16 PM

    and by the way, here in state the sentiment was like 80 – 20 in favor of leaving

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