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Kansas sulks as Mizzou says ‘adios’ to Big 12


Now that Missouri is officially in the SEC, the “don’t let the door hit you on the way out” remarks can begin in earnest.

Case in point, the Tigers’ biggest rival, Kansas.

Shortly after the announcement was made that the SEC had vote unanimously to add Mizzou, Kansas chancellor Bernadette Gray-Little offered the following statement:

“We’re sorry to see a century-old conference rivalry end. Missouri’s decision may have implications for fans and for the Kansas City area, but it won’t affect the long-term strength of the Big 12.”

It would be a shame if KU and Mizzou didn’t meet on a regular basis anymore, but it’s flat out misguided to think the long-term strength of the Big 12 is filled with rainbows, puppies and gumdrop forests after — count ’em — four programs have left in the past two years and the conference was thisclose (again) to completely dissolving.

The Big 12’s grant of rights that will equally distribute revenue to the conference is a six-year agreement. Perhaps my definition of long-term is outdated in the current college football landscape.

West Virginia and TCU are fine additions, make no mistake, but it’s hard to lose Missouri’s geographical footprint and Texas A&M’s tradition (of blowing second halves! zing!) and not have the the long-term strength be affected. And that’s not even addressing the loss of Nebraska and Colorado.

But, okay. Kansas has to issue a statement that reflects a positive — albeit backhanded — spin on the situation. I get that. But as ESPN’s David Ubben pointed out via Twitter earlier today, Kansas’ true colors (and no, not blue and crimson) were on display with this official tweet from the school:

Missouri forfeits a century-old rivalry. We win.”

Head shaking; intern fired.

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24 Responses to “Kansas sulks as Mizzou says ‘adios’ to Big 12”
  1. vols84 says: Nov 6, 2011 10:35 PM

    Can KU say hello Mountain West in five years? This after Texas, OU and company bolt for the PAC 12.

  2. missouriman4ever says: Nov 6, 2011 10:41 PM

    While I am sad to see that Kansas can’t get over themselves and realize that Missouri did what was best for the long run, Kansas can be replaced.

    Kentucky is basically the same program as Kansas. Legendary basketball teams, horrible football teams, academically sound. I don’t feel sad for Kansas at all. During the fall all Kansans say “wait for basketball season”. Well Kansas, if you don’t wanna be left behind when the Big XII dissolves, you netter get a better football program. Because football rules in this country

    Have fun in C-USA in a few years

  3. thefiesty1 says: Nov 6, 2011 10:47 PM

    Kansas BARELY plays football. Get over yourselves. Best move for Mizzou to move now. Good move for the SEC to get to 14 if nothing else but scheduling. Now WVA has to get thru their legal hassles with the BE as soon as possible.

  4. mattlion says: Nov 6, 2011 10:51 PM

    Mizzou is going to be in over their heads in football. Good school, and they’ll be ok in hoops, but if they get stuck in the SEC west (not sure how the divisions will shake out) they’re going to be a perennial doormat.

  5. normtide says: Nov 6, 2011 10:54 PM

    Welcome Miz. Great expansion for the SEC, media footprint just got way bigger. Would like to see them being in the east worked out, without Bama losing the Tenn game.

    Kansas, Baylor, and Iowa St are hypocrits. They haved reaped the rewards of being in an AQ league, while rarely fielding a competitive team. If they were so worried about their BCS future, isn’t the best way to have a decent football team? Kansas is finding out the hard way, basketball just don’t make enough money.

  6. deadeye says: Nov 6, 2011 10:55 PM

    I feel a little sad for Kansas because they didn’t have the options Missouri had. Of course these are sour grapes from them, but we all know deep down inside that they would accept an invitation into any conference that is stable and successful. And they wouldn’t stick it out in the BIG12 just to maintain their very old rivalry with Missouri. I hope Kansas and K-State can land somewhere worthwhile when the BIG12 officially goes belly-up.

  7. drummerhoff says: Nov 6, 2011 11:09 PM

    Sorry to hijack here, but its killing me and I’d love to hear other’s opinions:

    During the 4th qrt of the ‘Game of the Century”, did Eric Reid intercepted the pass by Maize?
    Should it have been Bama’s ball 1st and Goal at the LSU 1?

    I hope there is a right up about this key play in one of the AL newspapers.

  8. missouriman4ever says: Nov 6, 2011 11:26 PM

    It was an interception. The ball was still slightly moving on the players way to the ground. Its the Calvin Johnson rule. Must maintain possession throughout the catch. The offensive player had possession the entire way but you the defender did when he got up with the ball. It was the right call

  9. frug says: Nov 7, 2011 12:04 AM


    Kansas landing spot in a (hypothetical) post-Big XII world would depend directly on their ability to shed themselves K-State. If they are allowed to move on their own they will catch on somewhere on the strength of their MBB program, but ditch K-State could be tough since the schools share a Board of Regents.

  10. witdog67 says: Nov 7, 2011 12:54 AM

    Big 12 won’t go anywhere because the Big Least is already full! If the Pac 12 eventually takes the cream of the crop (doubtful), Kansas can stay and actually have a chance to win! Big 12 would just go get the best of the rest, like the Big East did. There will always be teams looking to fill spots in a conference with a legit name, even without legit game.

    In fact, the smart thing to do would have been to grab Houston and SMU, then go get Boise and BYU. Boom, you have a respectable 14 team conference that is actually regional and “BIG”, a trailblazer in conference growth. Worst case scenario, 4 teams leave in a year or 2 (Tex,TT,OU,OSU) but you would still have 10!

  11. southyank7 says: Nov 7, 2011 12:58 AM

    don’t worry Kansas, Missouri gonna lose more now then ever they will NEVER compete n SEC

  12. wethog66 says: Nov 7, 2011 7:39 AM

    I don’t know which is funnier, the “we win” tweet for Kansas, or Missou fans trying to insult Kansas on the way out the door.

    News flash Mizzou fans, your schools football team is a average, mid-pack. Hell at least Kansas has a nationally ranked basketball team, when was the last time Missou basketball was relevant?

    So remember, Missou was added for its TV market, and a garuntee win for the SEC west powers, not because of Missou football is any good. Hell an argument can be made that the SEC added another Kentucky minus a good basketball team.

  13. bighead82 says: Nov 7, 2011 8:05 AM

    Funny thing reading all the ‘Missou sports suck!’ comments (BTW- It’s ‘Mizzou’), it’s obvious some people haven’t looked at recent history of Mizzou v SEC in football (since 2005).

    I’ll help you.

    Wins v South Carolina (2005), Arkansas (2007), Ole Miss (2006, 2007), and A&M 3x in the past four meetings including two weeks ago and in 2010.

    Yep, Mizzou football…terrible. Basketball? Guess back to back Elite 8’s don’t do it either.

  14. wethog66 says: Nov 7, 2011 8:54 AM

    Missou or Mizzou, who gives a ****? And Missou beat South Carolina, Arkansas, Ole Miss, and Texas A&M over the last 6 or so years. Congrats on that. Another news flash though, Missou should beat those teams. Those teams are on Missou’s level. Now if Missou beat teams like LSU, Alabama, Auburn, Georgia, and Florida over the last 6 years I would be impressed, but they haven’t so your list means ****.

    One last tid bit, 2009 Texas Bowl:

    Navy 38
    Missou 13

    As a season ticket holder for Navy I was at that game. The score was closer than the game actually was. Yup, Missou is in the ranks of the elite.

  15. bighead82 says: Nov 7, 2011 9:04 AM

    Who are the teams that beat LSU, Bama, and Florida consistantly? LSU, Bama, and Florida beat up on each other. SEC is as top heavy as the B12, without the Texas overlords, sackless leadership, and SEC offers more cash.

    So you’d know Mizzou got shafted by the B12’s push for other teams and placed in the Texas Bowl in ’09. Just ANOTHER reason to bail on a conference that’s having the dirt laid on top. You could see the conference breaking up from back in 2007.

    Mizzou will be fine in the SEC.

  16. wethog66 says: Nov 7, 2011 9:17 AM

    A little more research on the great Missou Football program. Over the last 10 years Missou is a stellar 1-10 against OU and Texas. 1-12 if Big12 Championship games are factored in.

    I was disappointed to see Missou in the SEC East because it makes no sense geographically, but now I see that Missou probably lobbyed to be in the East so they can have an actual chance to make the SEC title game once in a while like they did twice in the Big12. No chance if they were placed in the West.

  17. normswifevera says: Nov 7, 2011 9:55 AM

    Didn’t Kansas win the rivalry when slavery was abolished?

  18. deadeye says: Nov 7, 2011 10:42 AM

    “A little more research on the great Missou Football program. Over the last 10 years Missou is a stellar 1-10 against OU and Texas. 1-12 if Big12 Championship games are factored in.”
    Who cares? What does this information prove or disprove? Mizzou and the SEC are happy to have each other and you’re obviously bitter about that.

    “I was disappointed to see Missou in the SEC East because it makes no sense geographically, but now I see that Missou probably lobbyed to be in the East so they can have an actual chance to make the SEC title game once in a while like they did twice in the Big12. No chance if they were placed in the West.”
    Mizzou was placed in the east because Alabama did not want Auburn to move to the east. Mizzou had no say in where they landed, division-wise. I would guess that at this point they would prefer the east. But the pendulum will swing again, and when it does the east will be brutal like it was 5 to 10 years ago. By the time that happens the SEC will have expanded by two more teams on the east coast and all 16 SEC teams will be divided up into four divisions of four.

  19. missouriman4ever says: Nov 7, 2011 10:56 AM


    If im not mistaken the MIZZOU basketball team was in the elite 8 about 3 years ago. That same year we were Big 12 champs and neat Memphis in the NCAA tourney. So before you wanna do your “research” about how bad Missouri has been, look at how good they’ve been.

    One more thing, Do you know which school has had the most NFL 1st round draft choices in the last 5 years? MIZZOU. Ziggy Hood, Sean Weatherspoon, Jeremy Maclin, Aldon Smith, and Blaine Gabbert.

    And look at what Danarrio Alexander is doing in STL. Sam bradford loves him, Chase Daniel is with NO, Brad Smith has also had a solid career.

    MIZZOU will do just fine in the SEC East.

  20. says: Nov 7, 2011 11:44 AM

    I try and look at this from the perpective if my team were moving to the SEC, K-State. I honestly question the success Mizzou will have in the SEC at all sports. Regular fans like me don’t see an iota of benefit from incrased TV money beyond their teams ability to attract to recruits and win games. I know I only care about K-State’s conference afiliation to the extent that they remain competitive.

    If I were in Mizzou Fans shoes I would be nervous. Losing games and program decline would eventually triumph conference pride. Basketball is the only sport where there might be an increase in a chance to win. Mizzou’s best programs Baseball, Softball, & Wreslting (Not an SEC sport) will suffer more than football because of this move. Your entire fanbase isn’t even on board with it.

    So, scream sour grapes, feel good that you have beat some midpack SEC schools over the past few years, but this is a lateral move at best.

  21. Deb says: Nov 7, 2011 1:53 PM

    I felt a little sad for Kansas for the three seconds it too me to read down to their tweet. Well …


  22. wethog66 says: Nov 7, 2011 2:44 PM


    Well its clear your definition of success and mine differ. I look at championships, Missou has none in basketball and hasn’t won a friggin Conference Championship in Football since 1969, and you brag about Elite 8 trips 3 years ago? I would tell you to set your standards higher, but whats the point now that Missou is in the SEC?

    And please spare me the stellar list of Missou Football Players drafted by the NFL. By doing it your helping me prove my point. Even Purdue University can brag about the long list of NFL QB’s to come out of that school. And Chase Daniels? Really? He is such a good QB prospect he was signed by the Redskins as a FA and then cut. A Redskins team that sure could use a QB prospect worth a **** right about now.

    Missou is average to good in sports. Whats wrong with that? Embrace it and stop be dillusional about why the SEC added Missou. It wasn’t for Missou’s tradition, it was about Missou’s TV market.

  23. wethog66 says: Nov 7, 2011 2:54 PM


    Yeah I am bitter. I am bitter that a great conference like the SEC would add an average team, that will dilute the talent level of the conference, simply to add TV sets to their money pool. And on top of that, stick one of the western most schools in the eastern conference. Its stupid, its something the Big East would do simply to survive.

    As an ACC fan I count on the SEC to be the one conference I can count on to produce college football games that don’t suck. With the addition of Missou, that isn’t a garuntee anymore.

  24. deadeye says: Nov 7, 2011 5:46 PM


    No reason to be bitter here. Alabama and LSU aren’t going to start stinking just because Mizzou has joined. Now all the SEC teams will get to recruit in Texas and Missouri with a little more clout. I just don’t think the talent level in the conference is going to decline because of Missouri.

    And you are right, the primary motivator was the population centers that Missouri has to offer. But another selling point was AAU membership and the fact that they do border three other SEC states.

    Overall I think Mizzou is an excellent addition to the SEC. The BIG12 REALLY wishes they had never left.

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