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JoePa will not coach another game at Penn State

Penn State students unfurl a banner along College Avenue near the Penn State campus in State College, Pennsylvania AP

Not exactly an unexpected headline but, damn.

Joe Paterno released a statement earlier Wednesday announcing that 2011 would be his final season as Penn State’s head coach, making  Saturday’s game against Nebraska his final game at Beaver Stadium.

The school has decided, however, that the icon has coached his last game.

In a turn of events not unexpected but nonetheless stunning, Penn State’s Board of Trustees announced Wednesday that Paterno is out as head coach, effective immediately.  Additionally, president Graham Spanier has been ousted, effectively immediately as well.

Here’s the school’s official release on the news and, trust me, this is it in its entirety despite how much more should be said:

“The Pennsylvania State University Board of Trustees and Graham Spanier have decided that, effective immediately, Dr. Spanier is no longer president of the University. Additionally, the board determined that it is in the best interest of the University for Joe Paterno to no longer serve as head football coach, effective immediately.”

Defensive coordinator Tom Bradley will serve as the head coach through the remaining three regular season games, as well as the Big Ten championship game should they qualify and their bowl game.

This post will be updated throughout the night and into the morning as this stunning turn of events develops…

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158 Responses to “JoePa will not coach another game at Penn State”
  1. scoops1 says: Nov 9, 2011 10:55 PM

    but Mike McQueary is still employeed….

  2. jimr10 says: Nov 9, 2011 10:55 PM

    Unfortunately…this is not about Joe Pa and football….it is about the kids that were abused.

  3. drmonkeyarmy says: Nov 9, 2011 10:56 PM

    The students are acting like clowns…the “media” in the press conference was even worse. Somebody actually asked what the justification was. All I could do is shake my head. What in the hell is wrong with these people?

  4. bunkmcnulty says: Nov 9, 2011 10:56 PM

    PSU Trustees:

    We are….smart people.

    Proud of you trustees. Tough decision. Right decision.

  5. hardheadcountryboy says: Nov 9, 2011 10:56 PM

    Glad to see they’re putting out the trash….who knows what else will come out once they start kicking the rocks over??? Let the investigation….and the healing… begin.

  6. rockiemtnhigh says: Nov 9, 2011 10:57 PM

    They really had no choice especially after it was revealed Sandusky was still hanging around even after JoePa knew he was under investigation. I really think JoePa felt like he was untouchable.

  7. 12is3times4 says: Nov 9, 2011 10:57 PM

    Apparently there are already reports of riots on campus over this. You read me right… they’re RIOTING in support of a perv-enabler.

  8. jimr10 says: Nov 9, 2011 10:58 PM

    drmonkeyarmy—you are so right… but it was the media and what can you expect?

  9. polegojim says: Nov 9, 2011 10:58 PM

    As expected. It’s the right thing to do.

    There is too much at stake to make this a ‘football’ decision. It’s a human decision.

    Lives were ruined and trust was broken.

  10. joerevs300 says: Nov 9, 2011 11:00 PM

    How exactly is this “stunning”?

    Look, I love Joe Pa, and I love PSU. Even though it’s been a couple decades since they’ve gotten close to a national title, my loyalty hasn’t swayed. And unlike so many other people that want him tied to a stake and burned at it, BEFORE this has went through the entire legal process and the entire truth is known, I had hoped Joe Pa would see the writing on the wall. Instead, you had the bizarre scene at his house last night, and then today when he said he would retire at the end of the season.

    Bottom line, PSU simply has to show they are taking this VERY seriously, and are going to leave no stone unturned so they can begin to heal and move on, if any school could survive such a horrific situation.

    The trustees did the ONLY thing they could. If he wasn’t going to leave, they HAD to fire him. So I don’t see how this is such a massive shock.

    The saddest thing of all is, no one will ever remember the millions he gave to the school and the State College community. They will only see him as the devil, and the vessel that allowed more kids to be abused, forever hurt.

    This wasn’t a shock. It’s now just sad.

    I would have taken it a step further. I would have simply said “In light of these developments, we are not participating any further in the 2010-2011 CFB season. We will vacate all our wins, and turn our football profit over to charities that help kids who have suffered through this kind of abuse”. That at least shows they are dealing with this aggressively.

    My heart just bleeds for the kids.

  11. gmenmunny says: Nov 9, 2011 11:00 PM

    Wow. This man was a legend. This will be the first time since 1950 (!) that JoePa will not be on the sideline. I figured death would be the only logical reason he wouldn’t be there. He was such a staple of Penn State for so many decades. Its ashame this is how it had to happen.

  12. 160hfalligatorhater says: Nov 9, 2011 11:00 PM

    And now the students will understand business.

    Kudos for the Board of Trustees for making the right decision.

  13. walkerlamp says: Nov 9, 2011 11:01 PM

    Congrats Penn State! You finally did the right thing!

  14. gonzosd says: Nov 9, 2011 11:02 PM

    a real life american horror story…absolutely atrocious

  15. frug says: Nov 9, 2011 11:02 PM

    @12is13times4

    If you turn on CNN right now you they are broadcasting from State College and you can see students taking to the streets.

  16. techvet says: Nov 9, 2011 11:04 PM

    Joe tried to get the parachute on but the trustees told him that it wouldn’t be necessary to have one on before jumping out of the plane.

    I am so sorry for the victims and their families. May we all have the wisdom and the courage to report it to police if we see something awful.

    From all accounts, there were a number of immature and emotional reporters at the press conference. Hey, why don’t you guys go back to the Paterno estate and show your support for JoePa like you did last night?

  17. tampajoey says: Nov 9, 2011 11:04 PM

    Good! Joe Paterno should also face criminal charges. This cover-up is disgusting and everyone involved should be prosecuted!

  18. pastabelly says: Nov 9, 2011 11:04 PM

    Penn State showed that the school is bigger than the football program. Great move.

  19. northernwisc says: Nov 9, 2011 11:05 PM

    Please tell me they did their homework and Tom Bradley the interm had zero knowledge about what happened. But the fact that McQueary is still there leads me to believe that this isn’t the case.

    This could still get ugly for Penn State.

    (praying for the victims)

  20. goodfieldnohit says: Nov 9, 2011 11:06 PM

    When it was time to make a decision, he chose to protect the football team and his win/loss record, not the innocent children.

    One has to wonder why Sandusky retired after the Alamo Bowl at the age of what, 55? He was still a good coach. Paterno had to know what was going on then, didn’t he?

    Then, in 2002, it happens again, and he does the bare minimum as required by PA law.

    Nice work Joe, you made it possible for Sandusky to rape more little boys.

    That is your legacy.

  21. auburntigers34 says: Nov 9, 2011 11:06 PM

    good riddance. if he was truly a man of honor and loved PSU, they wouldn’t have had to fire him tonight. once again, he had a chance to do the right thing and he failed miserably.

  22. norcal031 says: Nov 9, 2011 11:07 PM

    If you disagree with the firing you support pedophiles. Plain and simple. It makes me sick to hear students and some alumni are upset. What has Joe Pedoterno done for them?? This world has some sick people. How can anyone hide information like that. I do not care how much of a reputation you are trying to protect. Ad always the cover up is what exposes the.true seriousness of the crimes. Pray for the young boys. What if it was your own?

    To give this a thumbs down means you have some real problems.

  23. maninmo says: Nov 9, 2011 11:08 PM

    joerevs300 says:ese kids
    Nov 9, 2011 11:00 PM

    I would have taken it a step further. I would have simply said “In light of these developments, we are not participating any further in the 2010-2011 CFB season. We will vacate all our wins, and turn our football profit over to charities that help kids who have suffered through this kind of abuse”. That at least shows they are dealing with this aggressively.

    Really? You would punish these kids as well?

  24. blancodiablo says: Nov 9, 2011 11:08 PM

    Bring the riots. Burn it down.

    WE ARE….PENN STATE

  25. hardheadcountryboy says: Nov 9, 2011 11:09 PM

    This is NOT about Paterno, who has basically admitted he’s no better than a child molester… it’s about the innocent, trusting boys who were abused in the worst ways possible…the best way to deal with Paterno is simply allow him to become irrelevant…..if he really wants to help PSU then he should just vanish….and allow the healing to start….
    Oh – and don’t leave town, Mr Paterno – investigators will be around to talk to you and your family…..

  26. richm2256 says: Nov 9, 2011 11:09 PM

    Finally someone at Penn State made the RIGHT decision.

  27. thefiesty1 says: Nov 9, 2011 11:10 PM

    Apparently the PSU BoT are the only ones there that don’t need to leave immediately. If the assistant, McCary(?) hasn’t been fired immediately, they didn’t go far enough.

    Too bad, JoePa, you could have avoided this mess if you’d retired 10 years ago.

  28. gatorprof says: Nov 9, 2011 11:12 PM

    Kudos to the adults in charge for doing the correct thing.

  29. eaglessuperfan says: Nov 9, 2011 11:12 PM

    Some small amount of Justice has been done.

  30. goodfieldnohit says: Nov 9, 2011 11:12 PM

    The lawsuits against the university are going to be staggering.

    Which also begs the question, has PSU already been paying hush money to the families of boys that Sandusky buggered up the pooper?

  31. jonrambo says: Nov 9, 2011 11:15 PM

    I hope PSU didn’t go with Geico liability insurance. I’m sure buses loads of attorneys are already on there way up there.

  32. gonzosd says: Nov 9, 2011 11:15 PM

    the fact that these were already kids who had it hard enough as it was sickens me even more…nothing like kicking an innocent when they’re already down..joe paterno was a good start…finish the job and get rid of the rest…

  33. steelerhypocrite says: Nov 9, 2011 11:15 PM

    The students are as stupid as the people who believe OJ is innocent of murder…can’t people take an honest objective view of the situation(s)?

  34. Gelpi2011 says: Nov 9, 2011 11:17 PM

    Amen! Good riddance. Students of Penn, don’t you get it? The rest of America has a heart and a brain; Joe Pa condoned the actions of a serial rapist. There is a war on children and Joe Pa decided to look the other way when an innocent soul needed help. People like him are worse than a rapist because he knew better. Shame!

  35. delfi2 says: Nov 9, 2011 11:17 PM

    only thing they could do to seperate the University from JoePa to try and save some sort of face, albeit the trustees DID THIS PURELY AS A BUSINESS MOVE. His failure as a PERSON, and as a public official/citizen representing a state institution of higher learning placed the trustees into a corner without many choices, the board made the right move here.
    The beggining of the end….

  36. dkhhuey says: Nov 9, 2011 11:19 PM

    There are just no winners in this saga! I understand why and I understand it was absolutely necessary – but that still doesn’t stop the fact that I am sick to my stomach! This is just such a sad sad night and a disgusting bad week. I hope that Sandusky gets the karma and ending he deserves!!!

  37. blancodiablo says: Nov 9, 2011 11:20 PM

    steelerhypocrite says:Nov 9, 2011 11:15 PM

    The students are as stupid as the people who believe OJ is innocent of murder…can’t people take an honest objective view of the situation(s)?
    ———————————-

    But let me guess…you go out and cheer for a rapist known as Rothlisberger and a drunk driver in Hines Ward.

    You are a hypocrite.

  38. drmonkeyarmy says: Nov 9, 2011 11:23 PM

    Gelpi2011,
    Penn State not Penn. It might seem petty but Penn implies the University of Pennsylvania to which I hold an undergraduate degree….and some NY Times writer screwed that up in an article earlier today. Don’t want the ole alma mater associated with this debacle.

  39. crazyfootballfun says: Nov 9, 2011 11:23 PM

    How sad and heartbreaking. The victims were innocent, vulnerable kids. sandusky obviously a predator, and the adults who should have known better cared more about their own football program than about doing the right thing. the many admirers of Paterno are going to be devastated. Power…can be so corrupt. Am glad the Board did the right thing, but did you hear the anger from a couple of the reporters? The whole thing is sad, and now the kids at Penn State, the team…they too are victims. This could have and should have been stopped!

  40. 12is3times4 says: Nov 9, 2011 11:24 PM

    JoePa, it occurs to me, is a miniature version of any number of charismatic dictators and despots throughout world history, who are able to rule through the cult of personality they have built. That cult is now storming the streets of University Park tonight. The only difference is that he only ruled over a university and not a whole country.

    Consider this a coup d’etat.

  41. trbowman says: Nov 9, 2011 11:27 PM

    Good riddance.

    I laugh at the apologists.

  42. deadeye says: Nov 9, 2011 11:27 PM

    Finally!

    This should have happened yesterday, but one day too late is miniscule compared to 15 years too late.

  43. frug says: Nov 9, 2011 11:29 PM

    Streets are packed but the crowd is peaceful so far. That said, cops in riot gear are patrolling the streets to make sure things don’t get out of hand.

  44. jimsjam33 says: Nov 9, 2011 11:29 PM

    This is evil . An assistant football coach , John Sanduskey , sodomizing children as young as 10 years old in the shower area . Coach Paterno apparently was told and did nothing .
    He verifies this knowledge by saying he now wishes he had done more to protect the children . Joe Paterno you are a bad man . You sold your soul to the devil for what ? Football ? You got your glory and now it’s time to pay the price.
    Shameful .

  45. dpweidman66 says: Nov 9, 2011 11:30 PM

    Listen to all of you self righteous idiots.

  46. jake6879 says: Nov 9, 2011 11:30 PM

    I’m amazed that we live in a world where killing animals is an attrocious act against humanity and molesting a child is “kind of bad”.. Hell Donte Stallworth killed a human being and I never heard anyone say much about it.. you people are sick. This is a terrible thing that has happened to those kids and not only did it happen but when came to light nothing came of it. Only 10 years later does anyone pay attention.. and now there are still idiots who can’t grasp this as being a big deal. Clearly anyone who helped cover this up is partly to blame for it. That said, the team itself can not be punished for the actions of a former coach over a decade ago.. The firings make sense to me. Now lets steer our focus on the victims…

  47. gb4mn0 says: Nov 9, 2011 11:31 PM

    It’s disgusting to think that for more than a decade these so-called honorable men conspired to keep the victims from receiving justice for the atrocities they suffered. My wish is the entire lot is prosecuted to the fullest extent. Especially Paterno who in my opinion is only surpassed in culpability of these crimes by the perp Sandusky.

  48. sdffa11 says: Nov 9, 2011 11:35 PM

    drmonkeyarmy says:
    Nov 9, 2011 11:23 PM
    Gelpi2011,
    Penn State not Penn. It might seem petty but Penn implies the University of Pennsylvania to which I hold an undergraduate degree….and some NY Times writer screwed that up in an article earlier today. Don’t want the ole alma mater associated with this debacle.

    ^only a penn student can sound that arrogant. It’s no wonder all Philly area college students hate penn kids…so damn stuck up.

  49. gatorprof says: Nov 9, 2011 11:35 PM

    I am amazed at the people who don’t think that he should have been fired.

    As more and more is revealed about just how many victims Jerry had, you will be very happy that the trustees started the cleansing process.

    Bob Ryan put it best when he said that this is the single biggest college sports stories of all time. Unfortunately, it is not for a good reason. The sordid nature of Jerry’s actions and Penn State’s cover up dwarfs the Pony Express, Tattoo Gate, Reggie Bush, or any other problem previously reported.

    For all of you defending Joe Pa, please understand that he received immeasurably better treatment then Jerry gave his victims.

    The only redeeming quality of this story is that Jerry will be on the receiving end of his sick behavior once behind bars. My guess is that he won’t last 6 months.

  50. eagles512 says: Nov 9, 2011 11:36 PM

    I’m in the minority here. But the trustees have wanted him out for years and used the horrible situation. What’s the harm in allowing the players to finish the season with their coach? It was a panic move by a bunch of miserable trustees who took advantage of a terrible situation. Let him finish the season and go out with at least a little bit of dignity.

  51. sdffa11 says: Nov 9, 2011 11:38 PM

    dpweidman66 says:
    Nov 9, 2011 11:30 PM
    Listen to all of you self righteous idiots.

    Self righteous because we’re happy someone got what they deserve. Hope you don’t take this the wrong way but I hope your daughter/son is raped by a predator. Maybe you’ll see how grave this situation is instead of defending a child molestor

  52. gatorprof says: Nov 9, 2011 11:39 PM

    eagles512,

    Why should Joe Pa be allowed to “finish the season and go out with at least a little bit of dignity”?

    If Joe Pa had “at least a little bit of dignity” Jerry would have been arrested and taken out of action in 2002 or earlier.

    Think about how many victims wouldn’t have had their dignity violated.

  53. drmonkeyarmy says: Nov 9, 2011 11:43 PM

    Sdffa,
    I’m not a current University of Pennsylvania student and haven’t been for more than a decade jackass. What was so arrogant about my statement…that I don’t want people to confuse the two institutions?

  54. PCa Survivor says: Nov 9, 2011 11:43 PM

    northernwisc says:
    Nov 9, 2011 11:05 PM
    Please tell me they did their homework and Tom Bradley the interm had zero knowledge about what happened. But the fact that McQueary is still there leads me to believe that this isn’t the case.

    ________________

    John Surma, Vice-Chair of the Trustees, was asked about Tim Curley (and presumably Schultz) and basically answered that the trustees have more work to do that they couldn’t talk about it now. I took that to be more will be fired in the next couple of days.

  55. blancodiablo says: Nov 9, 2011 11:45 PM

    gatorprof says

    “at least a little bit of dignity”

    ————————

    How deliciously ironic coming from a Gator. How many criminals did your football program contain during the Urban Meyer years? Thirty? Forty?

    Were you crying for “dignity” when a star receiver threatened to kill his girlfriend?

    Nah….

  56. blancodiablo says: Nov 9, 2011 11:47 PM

    drmonkeyarmy says:

    {whatever}

    His point stands. Just because you went to Ivy School Lite doesnt mean jack. It just means you couldnt get accepted into Princeton.

  57. deadeye says: Nov 9, 2011 11:50 PM

    I heard OJ McDuffie on a radio interview yesterday say that when he was in school he heard rumors about Sandusky while he was in school at PSU. He graduated around 1992, so this realistically has been going on for at least 20 years.

    Sandusky retired at the age of 55, after being notified that he would not be the next PSU head coach. On what basis was that decision made? Did they already know he was a pedophile? I would have to say it was, because his coaching qualifications were excellent.

    Everyone who knows anything about PSU knows that JoePa ran the show. If he wanted someone hired or fired, he got his way. Does he really expect the world to believe he wasn’t involved in the decision to look the other way with Sandusky?

    There simply is no way on God’s green earth that Joe Paterno did not know what really was going on with Jerry Sandusky. If they knew enough to tell him he’d never be the head coach, then they knew enough to call the cops.

    As of right know, everyone is falling their swords for JoePa. But it only takes one person to speak up and tell the TRUTH about what JP knew, and his role in covering it up. I hope Sandusky takes the stand and tells it all.

  58. kremis says: Nov 9, 2011 11:50 PM

    so this pervert was allowed to have an office and use the facilities and joepa or anyone else who had knowledge of this guys perverse ways saw no problem with that? hello!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  59. dylanmusicfane says: Nov 9, 2011 11:53 PM

    strip the school of ALL wins and records. arrest paterno for accessory. he is as big a turd as the rest of the people involved. my heart goes out to the victims.

  60. drmonkeyarmy says: Nov 9, 2011 11:54 PM

    Blancodiablo,
    What does that have to do with it? There shouldn’t be confusion between the two institutions is my point. Obviously Penn St. and Penn are two completely different schools one of which is involved in a horrific scandal. I don’t want the two confused. It is the two of you who are acting like insecure and whiny. For the record, Penn and Temple were the only two school which I applied and eventually attended professional school at Temple. I’m not sure what your problem is…judging by reading your comments above, I’m really not sure what your problem is.

  61. goodfieldnohit says: Nov 9, 2011 11:56 PM

    blancodiablo – you need to step away from the keyboard and stop casting blame against other posters on this thread.

    THEY didn’t allow a child molester to run rampant for decades.

    I’m sorry your school is being implicated in the biggest child molestation scandal in the history of America.

    You need to learn to deal with it.

    Paterno is not a god, he is a scumbag who won a lot of football games, and was more concerned about winning more football games than he was about protecting innocent little boys from being raped.

    Again, if this all went down in the state of Texas, he would be facing felony charges.

  62. gonzosd says: Nov 9, 2011 11:56 PM

    also, i don’t think it was florida but florida state

  63. gatorprof says: Nov 9, 2011 11:56 PM

    blancodiablo,

    Re: “Were you crying for “dignity” when a star receiver threatened to kill his girlfriend? ”

    Actually, I was all for him being tossed off the team, but back to your attempt at a point…

    Really?

    A guy gets pissed off at his girlfriend and says something stupid = a former DE sodomizing dozens of 10 year boys while PSU covers for him.

    Ladies and Gentlemen, we another MENSA member!

  64. gonzosd says: Nov 9, 2011 11:56 PM

    that was at blanco

  65. sdffa11 says: Nov 9, 2011 11:56 PM

    drmonkeyarmy says:
    Nov 9, 2011 11:43 PM
    Sdffa,
    I’m not a current University of Pennsylvania student and haven’t been for more than a decade jackass. What was so arrogant about my statement…that I don’t want people to confuse the two institutions?

    it’s a typical comment that is expected to come from the mouth of a penn student/alum. Enough said.

  66. drunkenagitator says: Nov 9, 2011 11:59 PM

    Give PSU credit where it’s due: they refused to allow Paterno to dictate the terms here. His announcement that he was “stepping down” after the current season was, intentionally or not, unbelievably arrogant and crass. So was that bizarre little pep rally on his lawn last night. Football should be the last thing on Joe’s mind right now; if I were him I’d be much more worried about trying to explain my incomprehensible inaction regarding a child rapist in my midst. It’s hard to believe he felt compelled to say anything at all about his football future given the circumstances.

    On the other hand, you can argue that the university should have played hardball with Paterno long before this. The second they were informed about Sandusky they should have notified Paterno that a) the authorities had been notified and b) if Sandusky was ever seen anywhere near PSU again, Paterno would be gone. Instead they basically let him appoint himself football czar for life even though it has been pretty clear for a number of years that the time for him to retire as HC was long overdue. All I can figure is the university “braintrust” figured that Paterno would be gone soon enough anyway so why make a big giant deal out of it. Which is as reprehensible as all hell, but not altogether implausible. Why they always let Paterno bully them around is another matter entirely, most likely having much to do with the $$$ the program generates.

    Penn State football will go on without Paterno, it was going to happen eventually anyway. They can install an interim coach with no ties at all to Sandusky, let him finish out the schedule then clean house entirely. I can’t see how it would help to penalize a bunch of players whose ancient, practically canonized coach was finally called out on a scandal that dates back to when they were in grade school, if not before some of them were even born.

  67. blancodiablo says: Nov 10, 2011 12:03 AM

    The problem drmonkey is that as horrible as this situation is, it doesnt have bearing on the quality of education or the student body itself at Penn State. Many people want to take their own inferiority and direct it at one of the better colleges in the country.

    People can take their shots and come out of the woodwork to attack a very good school. So be it.

    But as an alumni, I’m not going to roll up in a fetal position or flop around on the floor in fits of self induced pity. Supposedly, thats what we are expected to do. Sorry.

    WE ARE…PENN STATE. And that will never change.

  68. goodfieldnohit says: Nov 10, 2011 12:05 AM

    Paterno just made a public statement that he is disappointed in the Board of Trustees decision.

    wow.

    He just doesn’t get it.

    Student’s are now rioting. Just turned a media van over on its side.

    Stay classy Happy Valley.

  69. blancodiablo says: Nov 10, 2011 12:07 AM

    gatorprof says:

    Ladies and Gentlemen, we another MENSA member!

    ——————————–

    Nice, moron! “We another”? Yeah, “prof”. Holding up that fine Florida quality of education.

  70. gatorprof says: Nov 10, 2011 12:07 AM

    One thing that really bothers me is that PSU knew about this long before the indictments were released and were covering for Joe Pa so that he could get to 409…or should I say 409*.

    __________________________________
    * Many of these victories came at the expense of young boys being sodomized by the defensive coordinator while PSU covered for him.

  71. gatorprof says: Nov 10, 2011 12:10 AM

    WE ARE….CHILD MOLESTER U!

  72. frug says: Nov 10, 2011 12:10 AM

    Things are getting nasty. Media van flipped near administration building. Things had been peaceful, but cops may start to crack down. They are in riot gear.

  73. drmonkeyarmy says: Nov 10, 2011 12:10 AM

    Blanco,
    I agree with you. Penn State is an excellent academic institution. I don’t want you to interpret my comments as bad mouthing quality of education. I have just heard media types and others say Penn when meaning Penn St….two separate institutions.

  74. blancodiablo says: Nov 10, 2011 12:12 AM

    gatorprof says:Nov 10, 2011 12:10 AM

    WE ARE….CHILD MOLESTER U!
    ————————

    Ah, did you get your feelings hurt “prof”? Dont worry Gainesville, at least you still have your 87 Dodge Pickup and your cousin.

    MENSA indeed. Next.

  75. hdmoyer says: Nov 10, 2011 12:12 AM

    Nice to see many of you bang on a guy that gave his whole life building a university from the ground up and then gave almost every dollar he’s ever made to build that university and then the board of trustees never gives the man a chance publicly to defend himself, just to fire him. I’m all for child predators to rot in hell and if Joe hid that fact then he should be to punished but he was never given the opportunity to at least clear his name is unbelievable to me. Wouldn’t anyone else on here that hasn’t done near the accomplishments that he has want the chance to set the record straight. Dislike all you want but shame on everyone that isn’t willing to give the man a chance to give his side of the story…especially all he’s done for the community.

  76. blancodiablo says: Nov 10, 2011 12:13 AM

    Thanks Drmonkey. My apologies.

  77. jmet11 says: Nov 10, 2011 12:13 AM

    What does Jerry Sandusky call a 13 year boy’s butthole?

    Answer: Happy Valley

    You’re welcome world.

  78. goodfieldnohit says: Nov 10, 2011 12:16 AM

    And now the peaceful students just tore down some street lights.

    Occupy Happy Valley I guess

  79. gershonpsu says: Nov 10, 2011 12:16 AM

    In Salem the self-righteous moralists burned old women to protect the children. We’ve seen our legal system, where everyone accused of a crime gets his day in court, subverted by an emotional mob egged on by sensationalist media. The vast majority of child abuse in this country happens in the home and is perpetrated by a relative or close friend of the family. That’s the dirty little secret no one has the guts to confront. This isn’t a Penn State problem and firing a football coach won’t make it go away. Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone.

  80. stevenfbrackett says: Nov 10, 2011 12:20 AM

    Several day late in coming but at least someone is finally doing something. For the past several days there has been no one in charge of the school.

    I am shocked by how poorly the school has been handling this. Of course they are trying to minimize the inevitable lawsuit damage awards by not saying anything that can later be used against them but by not saying anything, they are allowing the situation to worsen by the hour. You would think they would have some PR damage control person advising them. If they do, they either aren’t listening or they are the worst PR person ever.

  81. frug says: Nov 10, 2011 12:23 AM

    It’s officially a full on riot. Street lights going down, vehicles being damaged. Police are trying to crack down but they are outnumbered.

  82. blancodiablo says: Nov 10, 2011 12:24 AM

    stevenfbrackett says:

    You would think they would have some PR damage control person advising them.

    —————————————-

    Agreed, but I dont think this is a situation they teach in business school.

  83. goodfieldnohit says: Nov 10, 2011 12:26 AM

    hdmoyer says: Nov 10, 2011 12:12 AM

    I’m all for child predators to rot in hell and if Joe hid that fact then he should be to punished but he was never given the opportunity to at least clear his name is unbelievable to me.
    —————————————–

    He had a decade to make it right.

  84. jessethegreat says: Nov 10, 2011 12:26 AM

    I’m a big follower on PFT, first time checking in on here. Wondering if Florio is still the cheese with this sister site? If so, as a legal man, what is the victims course of action? Obviously the -can’t think of a non-sensoring term to describe him- will face legal action. I expect McQueery to face legal action as well unless Pennsylvania does not have a good samaratin law. Not sure about JoePa, but is there a case to go after the entire university?

  85. ranillon says: Nov 10, 2011 12:28 AM

    While I do agree with JoePa’s firing I do think there are two important details to keep in mind before rushing to final judgment:

    1) We haven’t heard his side of this story. He certainly looks guilty and probably is (of enough to get fired at least), but we can’t be sure. I see a lot of people rushing to extreme judgments. This is too serious and important a situation to do so before all the facts are available. I think, for example, that JoePa should have been put on permanent leave without per se being fired until having a formal hearing. That is NOT because I think he must be not guilty of (at least a) firing offense, but because justice requires a certain level of fairness and assumption of innocence. His firing now looks a lot like a step to placate the media and critics and not as such an act of justice (although it may be that too, but more by accident than design, I fear).

    Which leads me to my second point…

    2) In our rush to condemn a few individuals I worry that many others with important, perhaps even vital roles in this horrible tragedy may get away scot-free. How many people in current and past positions of responsibility at Penn State are pushing this to help hide any complicity on their part? I can’t say for sure, but I think you’d be nuts to think we know as yet all the guilty parties.

    As for whether JoePa could face charges that is highly unlikely. Unless he actively enambled the molestation — not just casting a blind eye, but being a co-conspirator — legally speaking all that he was required to do was inform higher authorities. He might have in fact been unable for various reasons (such as facing a lawsuit) to fire the guy. I don’t know if that’s the case, but that’s why we need to know all sides of the issue to be sure. We need to find out who is guilty and to what extent.

  86. gatorword says: Nov 10, 2011 12:30 AM

    I am a manager in charge of roughly 40 people and if a 10 year old was b-f’d in my place of business by an employee, I would be finding a new job. Even if it happened on my day off. I wouldn’t argue either. Something would tell me that I didn’t have enough knowledge of what was going on in my workplace to stay in charge. What are people not understanding about this? I like JoePa and have great respect for him, but this lapse in judgement on his part is worthy of him losing his job. Anything less (players getting tatooes, etc.) could/would probably be worked out. But a kid got raped in his stadium…how can you argue?

  87. 187onsandusky says: Nov 10, 2011 12:31 AM

    eagles512 says:
    Nov 9, 2011 11:36 PM
    I’m in the minority here. But the trustees have wanted him out for years and used the horrible situation. What’s the harm in allowing the players to finish the season with their coach? It was a panic move by a bunch of miserable trustees who took advantage of a terrible situation. Let him finish the season and go out with at least a little bit of dignity.

    ________________________________

    Governor Tom Corbett is on the Board. He is the one who started this investigation while he was still the PA AG. Are you suggesting that it was all planned.

    Believe me, i have a hell of a lot more invested in that town and university than you ever will, and THIS WAS ABSOLUTELY THE CORRECT DECISION.

    Going forward we cannot focus on one man, one legacy, one program.

    We need to focus on the victims. We need to focus on the incoming Administration. We need to focus on getting some sense into the heads of the moronic students rioting once more (this is #4 in the last decade if memory serves correct).

    Hopefully as this moves forward the faculty and staff can use this as a teaching mechanism. It is not enough to be a member of a community, it is most vital to be an active member of that community. It is not enough to put your reputation ahead of the members of your community. I would love to see some true leaders rise from the ashes of this disaster.

    Burn it down, start anew.

  88. johnnyshore says: Nov 10, 2011 12:34 AM

    For JoePa, the best thing that can come out of this is that his doctor will find out he has Alzheimer’s. If that’s the case, he can claim reason of insanity.

  89. blancodiablo says: Nov 10, 2011 12:34 AM

    goodfieldnohit says:

    Again, if this all went down in the state of Texas, he would be facing felony charges.

    —————————————-

    Yeah, because Texas is the beacon of light in protecting children. The same state where a mother killed her 5 children in Houston and then was later freed?

    The same state that ranks 46th in children’s healthcare?

    Texas, a real spolight for helping children.

  90. 187onsandusky says: Nov 10, 2011 12:37 AM

    For everyone who is aghast at this action I say this:

    The only way to move forward was to do this. As long as Joe was still employed the story would continue to grow, and the venom and hate that would come forth if he was on that field on Saturday would be unlike any we have seen in this country in decades.

    This was a measure to stop the bleeding. Both he and spanier NEEDED to be dismissed without dragging it out.

    THIS WAS 100% the correct decision and I for one am glad that the Board acted before the weekend. I will still not attend the game this weekend. I am thankful that we have started the process of recovery and rehabilitation. It will be a long time until we are back to normal.

  91. manhorse69 says: Nov 10, 2011 12:37 AM

    I’m sure the trustees acted on more information than has been dispersed in public and I think it’s probably the right move to fire him. But I feel like there is a lot we don’t know. What did the AD tell Paterno re: the case? Did he say it had been resolved or taken care of? If so would Paterno not have assumed that it had been handled properly by the people above him? I feel like he was fired more as a result of the building public sentiment rather than the concrete facts of the case. It could get better or even worse as more details emerge, but there are people accusing him of covering up and talking about him the way they should be talking about the guy who actually perpetrated the crimes. The decision to fire him is based more on reclaiming the dignity of the university than on the facts we’ve been given.

    Bottom line is that there has been a huge failing of the law enforcement and legal system as well as the administrative system of the university. There are dozens of people who bear some responsibility for the number of victims growing over months and years. Unfortunately Paterno is going to take it on the chin for everyone who is in some way responsible for this fiasco.

  92. blackdonnelly says: Nov 10, 2011 12:38 AM

    It’s really sad that such a career and legacy has to crash and burn over moral responsibility, which in reality is the core issue here.

    As a fan who lives and breathes Big Ten football (Go Hawkeyes!) I’ve always admired JoePa. What it all comes down to is simply that Coach Paterno and his superiors could not, for one moment, place moral responsibility over a successful and vaunted athletic program. I cannot put all this on JoePa; he did the right thing by reporting the crime to his superiors. But on the other hand there is a moral responsibility to protect children, which got left somewheres outside of Lancaster on some farm road when all was said and done. Because no one bothered to follow up, or think twice; that’s where it all ends.

    Heads did roll, and I don’t think the guillotine will get a break anytime soon. I hate the fact that the Board had to fire him, but I respect their decision.

    For what it’s worth, once the legal process is finished Penn State fans and Paterno freaks alike should snag Jerry Sandusky, and summarily whack him a la Cheech and Chong’s “Tripping in Court”

    I for one will try my best to remember the legacy itself, and not this shyte.

  93. goodfieldnohit says: Nov 10, 2011 12:49 AM

    Stay classy blancodiablo.

    I made no statement that Texas is nirvana.

    I said that what Paterno did would be cause for felony charges, which is true.

    Again, you don’t seem to grasp the seriousness of what he did (or didn’t) do.

    He won football games, at the expense of little boys buttholes.

    How can you rationalize that?

  94. buffalodiehard says: Nov 10, 2011 12:49 AM

    What is this “We are … PENN STATE” garbage. You all sound like a bunch of clowns right now.

  95. hegotrope says: Nov 10, 2011 12:49 AM

    PSU is burning as I type this. With free servings of tear gas.

  96. frug says: Nov 10, 2011 12:53 AM

    @jessethegreat

    1. Florio almost never posts her.

    2. Pennsylvania has a mandatory notification law, but McQueery and Paterno both met their minimum legal obligations by notifying their superiors. The AD and a VP, on the other hand, have both been charged with failure to notify law enforcement and perjury for statements they made to the grand jury investigating the case.

    3. The US Department of Education has already launched an investigation of the university for possible violations of the Clery Act (the same law that Virginia Tech was found to have violated for its reaction to the 2007 (?) shootings.

    Any civil actions by victims against the school would likely be similar to the lawsuits field against various archdioceses during the Catholic church scandals.

  97. luvbrew says: Nov 10, 2011 12:55 AM

    This is a disgrace and tragedy and its not just joe pa etc….its the entire university! The Big Ten should give them the boot as well!!! They are a disgrace!

  98. mondzy805 says: Nov 10, 2011 12:57 AM

    Good. It had to be done. My prayers are with the victims.

  99. Gelpi2011 says: Nov 10, 2011 12:57 AM

    What’s wrong with Pennsylvania? Where are the parents of the students praising rapist-lover Paterno? I would be ashamed if I had a kid in the crowd chanting loving remarks in favor of someone like JoePa, who protected a child molester. When I was in college, in the 1990s, I knew better. This country is in crisis. Sad, sad.

  100. goodfieldnohit says: Nov 10, 2011 12:59 AM

    And now the cops are using mace on the crowd.

    I’m sure blancodiablo will tell the posters on this board that it’s our fault.

  101. goodfieldnohit says: Nov 10, 2011 1:01 AM

    Sports by Brooks is tweeting that this story is not done and that new, “horrifying” allegations are going to be released, probably by Saturday.

    stay tuned

  102. phaktor333 says: Nov 10, 2011 1:02 AM

    Simply this: public school, public money. Private perversions by and against members of the public. Allegations and details attempted to keep private until the public got wind of it. All players associated with this sordid mess must go.

    We all saw ‘Casino’…guys who had nothing whatsoever to do about the skim or had little knowledge of the operation got whacked out. That is the nature of playing a high stakes game.

    Secondly, I never liked or respected Paterno. Always rubbed me the wrong way from his praising of over matched opponents before the game and the fact that he tallied up all those wins and we all know he did not head coach jack. He was a figure head of the program and his assistants did all the work while he sat there and took the credit. That old man knows the single wing t and how to defend it, but cannot, at his advanced age know how to defend the spread option offense. I digress…just glad he is gone along with his pervy friend along with all the enablers who helped cover this sad situation up.

  103. haroldoftherocks says: Nov 10, 2011 1:05 AM

    PSU class of 87 here. I understand everything Joe has done for the University. 25 years ago when I was at PSU, I was always reminded that all amenities at PSU (bowling alleys, ice skating rinks, basketball courts, etc) “were paid for by football”. It’s true, PSU Football pays for everything, and Joe is the heart and soul of PSU.

    But he needed to be fired immediately. His statement this afternoon about how the BoT shouldn’t spend a minute worrying about him, just goes to show that he truly didn’t get it. He didn’t understand even a week after the story broke.

    It’s great that Spanier is out too. Now McQueary needs to go. For those saying Joe was disrespected and should have been allowed to finish the season “with dignity”… no. If Joe wanted to protect his dignity, he should have apologized and resigned on Sunday. He had a chance to restore some dignity and instead, decided he would tell the BoT how to handle the situation. Clueless to the end….

  104. frug says: Nov 10, 2011 1:05 AM

    I hate to thread jack, but I want to post two more things before heading to bed

    1) The Penn State students who took part in tonight’s riot have not only done a serious disservice to their university but have also pulled off the seemingly impossible task of bringing even more shame to school. Their decision to support an embattled coach was controversial, but tipping vans, tearing down light posts and throwing rocks at police officers is unacceptable and a true embarrassment to a great school.

    2) For those who have suspected that the BoT acted on information that was not yet available to the public, the generally reliable Sports by Brooks has tweeted

    “I can confirm there will soon be new, major allegation involving child sex abuse in Sandusky case. Told tonite it could come before Saturday”

    and

    “If what I was told tonight about the details of the new allegation in Sandusky child sex case is true, it will horrify the public”

  105. firedude7160 says: Nov 10, 2011 1:09 AM

    We all would love to believe that, if faced with the same situation, that we would have immediately thrashed Sandusky (physically or verbally). 98% of the population would have reacted, initially, exactly the same way thatMcQueary did. With shock and a “Holy crap did I just see what I think I just saw?” We are all quick to play the “He should have done this” game, and use all the facts that we know about the outcome of the situation to help form that plan, but if you try to put yourself in the same situation, knowing only what he knew at the time, it is a little harder to know exactly what you would have done

  106. goodfieldnohit says: Nov 10, 2011 1:09 AM

    @haroldoftherocks -

    You are the lone sane voice of Penn State right now.

    I empathize with you, for you are an honorable person.

    God speed, and hold your breath for what Brooks is gonna break, we can all guess what it is.

  107. stockdogdca says: Nov 10, 2011 1:15 AM

    Mike McQueary , needs to go too ! His candy-”butt” witnessed the horrible event first hand and the best he can do is call his daddy?? Clean the WHOLE staff out and start over. What a joke !

  108. hdmoyer says: Nov 10, 2011 1:17 AM

    @goodfieldnohit

    So if you heard Joe’s defense please tell me where you heard it at so that I can stand corrected.

    Only thing I read was that McQueary told Joe that he saw something that disturbed him regarding Sandusky but no details were involved and that Joe reported that to his A.D. and the guy that was in charge of campus security.

    Again, if McQueary told Joe what the indictment said then Joe needed to go down but I have yet to hear his side of it.

  109. realfootballfan says: Nov 10, 2011 1:19 AM

    Paterno got just what he deserved. This is the latest example of a guy who thought he was untouchable (i.e. Woody Hayes, Bobby Knight, etc).

    Michael Haynes was on ESPN earlier talking about his mother who was working on her doctorate at the school, had heard the rumors. His friends still close to the program had heard the rumors, so do you honestly think Paterno had no clue?

    Bottom line is that he played the “I didn’t see it, I don’t know anything” card because he wanted to keep doing the only thing that mattered to him, hold that enormous power as a god in that tiny town.

    You saw it to a smaller extent with Bobby Bowden when the FSU board of trustees forced him to resign or with Bobby Knight when Miles Brand issued the zero tolerance edict and he went and shoved a kid shortly thereafter, there is a ridiculous arrogance and sense of entitlement that these men harbor, which is quite frankly disturbing.

    Paterno was willing to bury his head in the sand in the face of a pedophile for that very reason. Penn State alumni and students, don’t kid yourself about how much he cared about you because although he might, it pales in comparison to how much he cared about that power, autonomy, and money. To even be so arrogant as to try to dictate how he’d go out after this broke is just the last example that he was out of his mind.

    Undoubtedly, Had these accusations come out in 2002, Bowden would be the all time winningest coach since Paterno would have been fired or resigned at that moment..that’s sad to think that’s what it boiled down to, but I’m afraid it did.

    I hate to quote a cartoon, but in the appropriate words of Spider-Man, “with great power comes great responsibility.” Paterno failed holding that power.

  110. goodfieldnohit says: Nov 10, 2011 1:25 AM

    @hdmoyer -

    Why did Sandusky *retire* after the Alamo Bowl in 1999?

    He was 55 at that time. A great coach.
    Architect of Linebacker U. In good health.

    Never got a whiff of another coaching offer either.

    St. JoePa knew back then, didn’t he?

    And now, it’s 2011. How many little boys have been violated between 1999 and 2011.

    Stay tuned, this isn’t over.

  111. goodfieldnohit says: Nov 10, 2011 1:28 AM

    Oh, and Joe doesn’t have to defend himself, because he did the absolute minimum required by PA law.

    Just the minimum. Nothing more. When children were at stake.

    He’s a creeper at worst, and a denialist who would rather win football games than do the right thing at best.

  112. gmjones58 says: Nov 10, 2011 1:43 AM

    I am a huge football fan, but this has nothing to do with football. Joe Pa was an amazing coach but all of the wins and all of the players that he helped mold does not make up for the kids whos lives where forever changed by the sick, waste of life person that Joe Pa allowed coach for his team. Joe Pa has recieved tons of praise for his success, but as a leader you are responsible for the good and the bad. Now it is Joe’s turn to reep the consiquences of allowing such a horrible thing to happen under his belt.

  113. hdmoyer says: Nov 10, 2011 1:49 AM

    @goodfieldnohit

    Listen, if that’s what the facts are then so be it. I’m sorry if I want to give someone the benefit of the doubt. I am obviously bias being a Joe Paterno faithful…I do not condone in anyway covering for a pedophile in any way shape or form. I just want to hear his side. If he and the alum are guilty in covering up for Sandusky and Joe’s legacy and the program should be punished. I just feel like the man has earned the right to at least tell his side of the story.

  114. goodfieldnohit says: Nov 10, 2011 1:52 AM

    @hdmoyer –
    Joe is not on trial. He’s just fired. He is fired because of this:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/sports/documents/sandusky-grand-jury-report11052011.html

    see pages 6 and 7 please.

  115. realfootballfan says: Nov 10, 2011 1:57 AM

    goodfieldnohit,

    He probably was happy that the day job wasn’t going to be getting in the way of his pedophilia escapades from that point on. That just freeed up his day from breaking down film and putting together game plans to allow him to spend all of his time on those little boys.

    It’s disgusting and anyone defending Paterno is a moron because with his admission that he wished that he would have done more, he’s confirmed his complicity in looking the other way while he had a very good idea of what was going on.

    And for all the people saying that it wasn’t his place, blah, blah blah..he’s the most powerful man in that state outside of probably a few select politicians and even that’s probably debatable.

    Bottom line is that he cared more about maintaining the status quo to keep his power and money. I mean, gees, at least get the access to the program stopped for this guy, he didn’t even do that. He was still taking boys on trips with the team and to campus to rape them there, which makes the forced retirement even a bigger joke since he kept all of the perks from when he was on staff without the headaches of actually working, thus more time to focus on raping little boys.

  116. hdmoyer says: Nov 10, 2011 2:16 AM

    @goodfieldnohit

    Yeah, I’ve read it but Joe is disputing that. If that is what he was told and he admits to that indictment than he obviously should have went down in flames. But why now and why so much later? Why are we battling over this in 2011?

    I want to hear him say what he was told and I want to hear from McQueary what he said.

    @realfootballfan all I can say to you is if that’s what he did then let him burn at the stake.

    All I ask is let the man after 60+ years defend his actions.

    I know it is a losing battle for me when the University won’t let him because of legal ramifications.

  117. ogre2010 says: Nov 10, 2011 2:35 AM

    Mike M. did his job by telling the person who is ‘the man’ at Penn State, and NOTHING happen

  118. realfootballfan says: Nov 10, 2011 2:44 AM

    @hdmoyer,

    He doesn’t work there anymore, he can say whatever he wants to say.

    His first thoughts after being fired was to say he has to get used to not being the Penn State coach anymore.

    Those displaced priorities is one of the reasons that this went on as long as it did.

    The fact that former players like O. J. McDuffie said that he heard the rumors as far back as ’92, that Michael Haynes said that his mom relayed the rumors to him as well as other friends close to the program, allows us to connect the dots after Sandusky, a well respected coach and deemed Paterno’s heir apparent, suddenly retired a year after the original allegations levied.

    Do you think Paterno had nothing to do with that decision? Furthermore, when the weak grad assistant relays that he saw something “sexual in nature” that was very disturbing going on between Sandusky and a little kid, don’t you think Paterno had a good idea based on those previous allegations, the retirement, and all of the rampant rumors how bad it was?

    You can keep waiting to hear from him, but my guess is that you won’t hear a peep from Paterno on trying to justify what he did because there is no way to justify it. It’s better to remain silent than do the Nixon “I’m not a crook” thing, making it 10 times worse, especially with the possibility of dodging those questions since the grave is probably near.

    I’m hardly a snap judgement person, but we’re talking about kids, that’s just the worst of the worst. There is nothing to say considering that both paterno and the GA have both essentially confirmed from his statement earlier about “wishing he did more” and the grand jury testimony respectively that he was well aware.

  119. thekatman says: Nov 10, 2011 2:47 AM

    JoePa… Fired!

  120. hdmoyer says: Nov 10, 2011 2:59 AM

    @realfootballfan

    If he says nothing to clear himself of these heinous allegations than I am def in the wrong in trying to defend him. If it’s gone this long and now only exposed to light I can only hope Joe goes down with the masses in this cover up. All I personally wanted was him to give his side. If it’s not good enough and the allegations are true then so be it. I just wanted to hear his side.
    I along with many other faithful have been mislead in any regards have already started to get rid of my PSU merchandise…whether the board acted hastily or if Joe was involved in a cover up.

    Irregardless, I will be rooting for a different University…I only hope for my conscience that Joe clears his name and I don’t feel I’ve been taken advantage of all this time.

    In fails in comparison to all the victims in Sanduskys path.

  121. lawyermalloy says: Nov 10, 2011 3:08 AM

    They needed a “scape-goat” and a high profile one at that. When the lawsuits against the School start rolling around, firing the grand- pooba of coaching will go a long way in establishing that the School, once notified and appalled by the actions of a few took the high road to show the boards/school would never tolerate their actions or lack thereof. While it may not work, it certainly can’t hurt.

  122. realfootballfan says: Nov 10, 2011 3:29 AM

    hdmoyer,

    There’s no reason to abandon your school, no matter how despcable this situation is. Paterno is a man who has been very comfortable in a very powerful position for a long time.

    Power is intoxicating. I’m an FSU graduate and seeing how Bobby Bowden fought behind the scenes to guilt the board of trustees into letting him continue when he’d abused that power a few times over the past decade (i.e. hiring his son as OC in the face of immense disapproval, among other things), I understand that some of these guys just get out of hand when they’re handed that much power.

    Paterno is no different and let the power ruin him in an even more profound way because there is no excuse for not acting once the GA informed him that he saw this scum in the act of raping alittle boy. He might have been able to skate on the “hearsay” thing for the past allegations, but this GA actually saw this go down.

    He hired this guy to join his staff later, so obviously he had some kind of trust in him, past the working relationship enough to inquire more on what he saw if he’s going to claim he wasn’t informed of the extent of what happened.

    Furthermore, knowing all that Sandusky was still on campus as late as last week. It’s just indefensible and lends nothing for paterno to say to justify his actions. He has no side to tell.

    Even for the crowd saying that in his old age, Paterno might not have been aware enough to know Sandusky was still around, it begs the question that if that’s the case (which I think is absurd as well), why was he still the HC?

  123. bubblefive says: Nov 10, 2011 6:10 AM

    Did the Pennsylvania authorities hold off on these indictments until after Paterno broke Eddie Robinson’s record for wins??

    I would like to believe that this was a coincidence, but cannot shake the sentiment that the local affection for PSU football trumps all else in that state.

  124. drobe86 says: Nov 10, 2011 6:15 AM

    Thousands of students mobbing the streets… I love it!! You can’t get rid of a legend…. If they really want to make a statement don’t show up to the game Saturday…

  125. pondbridge says: Nov 10, 2011 6:24 AM

    Hope for PSU’s sake that Tony Dungy will consider coaching college ball. Time for someone who actually walks the walk– not just waits for his statue to be build.

    P.S. In all of this mess, hope that someone has the foresight to have a suicide watch on Paterno, Sandusky AND McCready.

  126. ace1716 says: Nov 10, 2011 6:34 AM

    Sounds as if nothing has changed. They still made sure to point out about the teams championship game and bowl game as if that’s what’s really important right now.

  127. westrat2 says: Nov 10, 2011 7:47 AM

    What a bunch of idiots, the board of trustees and media have completely taken the focus off Sanduskey, who is the real predator here, not Joe. Now, a coaching legend and his legacy have been ruined, a shame. He did exactly what he should have done, tell his superiors, and he did.

  128. holeinone09 says: Nov 10, 2011 7:49 AM

    @eaglessuperfan says:
    Nov 9, 2011 11:12 PM
    Some small amount of Justice has been done.

    * * * * * *

    And yet, the monster who actually did it, Sandusky, is out free walking around on a measily $100K bail. That’s justice.

  129. thridandlong says: Nov 10, 2011 8:03 AM

    I wonder if the general population in the Federal Penitentiary would have simple walked by as Sanduskey was raping 10 year old boys ?

    Eventually he will learn and experience what is like to be prayed upon when justice is served, and will experience the wrath of the criminal element when he serves his time for the brutal acts he performed on these defenseless young boys. As they say, karma is a mother fuc*ker!

    And to the college students that feel Joe Paterno is being unfairly treated, time to take an ethics class, you are absolutely clueless !

  130. nflofficeadmin says: Nov 10, 2011 8:29 AM

    Some of the people making comments here near to seriously be investigated as potential child abusers, kiddy vid viewers, enablers. Their comments are disgusting. The stench of what JoPA tolerated and enabled (admittedly) will linger long past his death.

  131. JB (the original) says: Nov 10, 2011 8:34 AM

    Kind of gives a whole new meaning to “PED’s” in the sports world, doesn’t it?

  132. jollyjoker2 says: Nov 10, 2011 8:44 AM

    No one on this message board has a clue whether JO pa had the ability to hire or fire. That’s the only determination whether he should be fired or not. He can only report unless he is responsible for those other duties. Its no different than telling the federal government they have illegals crossing the boarder.

  133. gatorprof says: Nov 10, 2011 9:07 AM

    jollyjoker2,

    “No one on this message board has a clue whether JO pa had the ability to hire or fire. That’s the only determination whether he should be fired or not. He can only report unless he is responsible for those other duties. Its no different than telling the federal government they have illegals crossing the boarder.”

    BS, pure BS. Joe Pa should have picked up the phone and call the police and child services.

  134. austintexasbroker says: Nov 10, 2011 9:20 AM

    What’s going on with the ‘opinion thumbs’ on this site? Kinda gives a false impression when you click on one, and the other registers two votes.

  135. steeelfann says: Nov 10, 2011 9:24 AM

    Someone brought up a point last night during our conversation:

    Should known homosexuals be allowed around children? Again, no law against it, but what is morally right? What is the danger level? What is the responsibility of an institution? This kind of activity has happened time and again in many instances and yet nothing is ever done BEFOREHAND. What should be the proper procedures?

  136. thridandlong says: Nov 10, 2011 9:34 AM

    TRUMPED !

  137. drexelvol says: Nov 10, 2011 9:45 AM

    This could be just the tip of the iceberg. The PA Board of Education is launching an investigation now as well. I would bet the NCAA is going to levy sanctions against the football program as well.

  138. toegoat says: Nov 10, 2011 9:58 AM

    This whole situation is very unfortunate, PSU did the right thing. I don’t understand why people want the football season cancelled though. Those young men that are on that team deserve to finish their season that they worked their butts off for. Yea I know its bigger than football but those 100+ young men on the team didn’t commit these horrific crimes.
    With that said, JoPa has been holding that team back for years now coaching wise and its about time a new era has begun.
    My heart goes out to the victims and may justice prevail.

  139. onceuponatimeinsports says: Nov 10, 2011 10:01 AM

    A sick, sad, pathetic end for a sick, sad, pathetic little man…..

  140. cdngatorfan says: Nov 10, 2011 10:07 AM

    I agree with the dimissal of JoePa. I also feel bad for him as I do think he did nothing LEGALLY wrong. Failure on many levels occured here and although I believe Joe is a good man, those failures are what ultimately cost him his job and possibly an unblemished legacy.

    I’m not defending him nor am I judging him. I just think it’s a shame that so many lives have been affected and nothing of any good can come out of any of this other than a sick man (Sandusky) will no longer be able to do sick things to children any more.

    Very Sad it had to go this far.

  141. chiefagc5675 says: Nov 10, 2011 10:12 AM

    real fooball fan? wtf is that
    You’re a dropout from the game of life.
    Paterno is a football coach- not a prosecutor or a cop. Get your stupid head out of your derriere- the administration and the cops are the villians here- not Paterno. Along with Sandusky and I don’t know why no one has mentioned her but MRS. Sandusky- she didn’t know? BS.

  142. irishking says: Nov 10, 2011 10:22 AM

    It will take many years for Penn State to heal from all of this. The Trustees did the right thing by attempting to cut out the cancer and throw it away so it cannot spread any further.

    It is doubtful that the Big Ten Championship trophy will bear Paterno’s name.

  143. realfootballfan says: Nov 10, 2011 10:39 AM

    @chiefagc567,

    You’re a simple moron. No one said that Paterno was a prosecutor, but no one near that campus, let alone in that state has had the power that Paterno has.

    Why do you think he’s been holding on all these years because he loves Penn State so much, because he loves the students so much? Don’t kid yourself.

    This is the same man who defiantly told the board of trustees thanks but no thanks when they asked him to retire in 2004, the same man who released that twisted statement yesterday about the board needing to focus elsewhere besides him, the same man who simply had to say to a myriad of people, “I have it on good authority that this guy is molesting kids to someone who really could have taken care of the problem just to get the ball rolling, not his freaking bosses, which is a joke since they were largely figureheads there in the first place. There is no one associated with that college or surrounding that campus who had more power to stop this, but breaking records and keeping his cushy gig was more important to him after someone who he obviously holds in high regard since he’s still working for him told him that he personally witnessed his old pal poking a kid savagely like some scene out of “OZ.”

    So don’t tell me about him not being a prosecutor or not able to do anything when if it was someone’s kid that he knew, he would have picked the phone up in one second.

    That’s the facts, jackass.

  144. Deb says: Nov 10, 2011 11:28 AM

    Although we’re not Penn State fans, my family has admired Paterno for decades. This is heartbreaking, but proof that no matter how much we admire public figures, we don’t know what goes on in their heads and their hearts. I wanted to believe that, because he was 75 at the time, he didn’t fully comprehend the gravity of what McQueary was telling him. But others have provided material from the case files that make clear he did know Sandusky had a 10-year-old in the shower with him. That’s all he needed to know.

    Those talking about whether or not Paterno had the power to act apparently have forgotten that it takes no power to pick up a telephone and call 911. McQueary witnessed a crime in progress. There was no need to consider or discuss or report anything to superiors.

  145. Deb says: Nov 10, 2011 11:34 AM

    @blancodiablo …

    You’ve done a bang-up job of tarring everyone imaginable in a bizarre effort to excuse responsible adult men from not reporting the rape of a child–a child–and allowing the rapist to have continued access to dozens of unprotected children for another nine years. You threw out to one of my fellow Steelers fans comments about our players Ward and Roethlisberger.

    None of us cheered Hines Ward’s DUI. We’re extremely disappointed in Hines and the law will take its course. But a DUI hardly compares with enabling a child rapist. As for Roethlisberger, the evidence in those cases shows he was guilty of being an ass but not of rape. That’s why he’s never even been arrested. The civil litigant texted people she couldn’t wait to see him again, then sued for $3 million. The Georgia accuser’s medical exam showed she hadn’t had sex with anyone that evening. But Roethlisberger had been Jack the Ripper, it wouldn’t excuse the child-rape enablers at Penn State. Grow up.

  146. eagles512 says: Nov 10, 2011 12:02 PM

    Someone that doesn’t overreact like the Trustees…

    http://thatlawyerdude.blogspot.com/2011/11/strong-defense-of-joe-paterno-why.html

  147. frank booth says: Nov 10, 2011 1:03 PM

    Has anyone heard anything about the police going to Second Mile or Sandusky’s home or even Penn State to retrieve computers, hard drives and anything else that may be further evidence of what Sandusky has done? I haven’t heard anything on this, and I would hope that it’s been done.

  148. drexelvol says: Nov 10, 2011 1:28 PM

    @eagles512 – That blog is spoken like a typical scumbag defense attorney that can’t even spell “no one” correctly.

  149. thridandlong says: Nov 10, 2011 1:58 PM

    Joe PEDturnedablindeyeOFILE !

  150. jimsjam33 says: Nov 10, 2011 2:17 PM

    I think the comment that the Penn State Administration held back the annoucement of this moral decadence until Paterno broke the record for collegiate football wins is troubling or believable .
    I don’t think the U.S.C. Trojan or the Buffalo Bill administations want their names associated with anything O.J. Simpson did !

  151. couchpotato56 says: Nov 10, 2011 2:53 PM

    People need to be out raged that Joe was fired but not MCQUEARY?????? JOE PA MADE SOME MISTAKES, BUT IN MY MIND WHAT THE GRAD ASSISTANT DID (DID NOT DO). WAS MUCH WORSE. HE SHOULD BE GOOOOOOONNNNNNEEEE!!!!!!!

  152. yankehammer says: Nov 10, 2011 3:26 PM

    I think the onion summed up the situation perfectly.
    JoePa supporters should read this.

    http://www.onionsportsnetwork.com/articles/sports-media-asks-molestation-victims-what-this-me,26609/

  153. Deb says: Nov 10, 2011 3:30 PM

    @jimsjam …

    What O.J. did happened 15 years after he retired from football. Those events had nothing to do with records he set as a player, nor do they in any way tarnish his accomplishments at USC or Buffalo. So neither organization has any reason to remove his name from their record books.

    The difference here is that Penn State covered up Sandusky’s crimes because they were putting the reputation of the football program ahead of child welfare. Their silence enabled him to continue abusing children for many more years. That puts the Nittany Lions program in the middle of this sordid mess.

  154. jcnitb4 says: Nov 11, 2011 10:18 AM

    I agree with all the majority opinions condemning this horror and am mystified that the number of defenders of those involved is not zero. My heart especially goes out to the victims.
    However, this is not a new story. It is a very old one, and yet again illustrates the nature of hierachies which accumulate power to the point that their primary focus becomes self protection. In this respect they become almost like living organisms. They recognize no rules, laws, ethics or morality which threatens their power and the well being of their members. This phenomenon is not confined to sports, corporations, religion, cults, clubs, etc. , but is rather an unfortunate characteristic of group psychology.
    These things, when detected, must be dealt with with the greatest severity consistent with the law. Members of such organizations must recognize their individual responsibility to do the right thing, whatever the personal cost.
    Only when most people become willing to make painful sacrifices to protect the innocent, will these things cease to happen.

  155. rhew1232 says: Nov 11, 2011 12:51 PM

    Bottom line if it was Joe Pa’s grandson it would have ended at the first report – since it was not he did not do what he should have done – it’s as simple as that

  156. hdmoyer says: Nov 12, 2011 12:56 AM

    I appreciate everyone’s comments, right, wrong, or indifferent. I’ve had time to sit back and watch the chain of events and witness the levity of the University’s actions. All I can say is all I wanted was Joe to say his side. It doesn’t look good for anyone up there and I’m sorry to everyone I offended by taking Joe’s side….I just have a hard time not defending a guy that has done nothing but give his whole life doing the right thing. No comments needed if you feel he did wrong or right, or what you feel he did….either way I’ve had time and it doesn’t look good for anyone in the psu staff. I don’t want to stick up for anyone but the victims in this.
    I apologize to anyone I offended and I hope all will burn for their wrong doing including Joe Paterno.

  157. frank booth says: Nov 12, 2011 3:09 AM

    eagles512 says:
    Nov 10, 2011 12:02 PM
    Someone that doesn’t overreact like the Trustees…

    http://thatlawyerdude.blogspot.com/2011/11/strong-defense-of-joe-paterno-why.html

    ====================================
    Exactly what you would expect a lawyer to say.

    Nothing to see here.

  158. couchpotato56 says: Nov 14, 2011 11:22 PM

    I can’t imagine if I were a player or recruit, that I could ever take showers in that building EVER again!

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