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Report: Sue Paterno wasn’t told to leave Penn State pool

Joe Paterno and his wife Sue greet supporters outside their home in State College in still image taken from video Reuters

Wednesday evening, a “source close to the Paterno family” — hey @ScottPaterno — told the Patriot News that Sue Paterno, wife of now-former Penn State head coach Joe Paterno, had been “told to leave a Penn State campus pool where she normally works out.”

As it turns out, that “snub” may have not been that simple.

Thursday evening, the same paper reported that Sue Paterno “was not told to leave a Penn State campus pool where she works out.”  The paper goes on to write that “[t]he natatorium was closed for Thanksgiving.”

The paper also notes that discussions are underway to determine the ability of the Paternos to use the Lasch Football Building facilities going forward.

And, as an aside, if you want to talk about JoePa’s legacy in Happy Valley, this uncertainty about the wife of a living legend swimming in a pool that her husband either directly or indirectly built would be Exhibit A in the short-term.

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31 Responses to “Report: Sue Paterno wasn’t told to leave Penn State pool”
  1. canetic says: Nov 25, 2011 7:53 AM

    Actually, what happened is that Mike McQueary heard some sounds coming from the pool area, and that is when he investigated and found Mrs. Paterno swimming there. Ironically, this time he went directly to the police.

  2. freidasboss says: Nov 25, 2011 8:29 AM

    He still gave the school 4 million bucks… If she wants to go swimming then let her go swimming.

  3. pastabelly says: Nov 25, 2011 8:43 AM

    freidasboss says:Nov 25, 2011 8:29 AM

    He still gave the school 4 million bucks… If she wants to go swimming then let her go swimming.
    =================================

    Please get past the past ALL OF THE MONEY and the football games won. The man is a piece of garbage who enabled a pedophile to rape young boys and ruin their lives. It is the money and your kind of attitude that allowed evil to perpetuate for so long there. The Paternos, if they really had some class, would quietly leave Happy Valley for a very quiet retirement somewhere else.

  4. drmonkeyarmy says: Nov 25, 2011 9:01 AM

    He might have given the school 4 million dollars but that will pail in comparison to the money shelled out as a result of the numerous civil suits that are invariably filed.

  5. gregggrammarrosenthal says: Nov 25, 2011 9:23 AM

    I accidentally the whole swimming pool.

  6. brandontroutman says: Nov 25, 2011 9:25 AM

    How did Joe Paterno enable Sandusky? Sandusky was given privileges to the campus as part of his retirement, something the crooked Board of Trustees negotiated with him despite the facts BEHIND his retirement, the first allegation just months prior to him being forced to retire (anyone who thinks he retired on his own is crazy, do some searching, Paterno didn’t want that tag on his team, and he did what he thought would rid them of it, force him out)

    The University, Commonwealth of Pa, and State College/University Police repeatedly fumbled on this, Paterno knew an investigation was looming in 1999, and so many people tied into the state system blew it and/or ignored it. The

  7. brandontroutman says: Nov 25, 2011 9:28 AM

    The thought Paterno was an enabler shows how little you know on the real matter and how you, like most of the ridiculous media is superficial, and ready to fry someone without the facts.

    When the truth comes out, we will see who Sandusky’s real enablers were, and Joe Paternos name won’t be on that list.

  8. chiefagc5675 says: Nov 25, 2011 9:52 AM

    It’s disgusting to me to read comments that are obviously posted by people who watch Faux News or listen to Limpbaugh or read the National Enquirer- in other words people with no grey matter. Look that up in your Funk and Wagnells Pa. losers. Paterno did what he could. The Administration- being Republicans-
    did NOT.

  9. burntorangehorn says: Nov 25, 2011 10:10 AM

    It’s ridiculous that people are blaming Paterno for actions he never witnessed by a man who was no longer even in his employ.

  10. wegonnadoitbaby says: Nov 25, 2011 10:10 AM

    chiefagc5675 says: Nov 25, 2011 9:52 AM

    It’s disgusting to me to read comments that are obviously posted by people who watch Faux News or listen to Limpbaugh or read the National Enquirer- in other words people with no grey matter. Look that up in your Funk and Wagnells Pa. losers. Paterno did what he could. The Administration- being Republicans-
    did NOT.
    ——————————————————

    I think Paterno is on record as a Republican. In fact he was at one time an acquaintance of and a big supporter of Richard Nixon.

    One would hope either you post is an attempt at humor, or the result of to much holiday cheer last evening.

  11. tryagainplease says: Nov 25, 2011 10:26 AM

    i’m simply surprised people are still defending paterno.

    i understood the stupidity/shock of 18-19 year olds at first but now- no, he deserves no sympathy in my eyes.

  12. tobeexact says: Nov 25, 2011 11:09 AM

    first if im not mistaken the library alone was over a 4 million donation alone. He and his wife have donated millions not just to penn state but hundreds of charities which the idiots that are bashing probably benefited from.
    And its a well known fact paterno could not stand sandusky what so ever. And the one comment above is absolutely correct , the bot as it is being referred to has the ultimate say in who gets paid what and who has access to the facilities.
    Perhaps they could learn from syracuse u who actually have a back bone and should have stood up to the media and all the left wing idiots who are destroying are country . And its those same people that run there mouths with out facts,first the law again i repeat the law states a person with second hand info is not aloud to go to the police . Which according to the university structure in place , he did in fact do so, that same law also states the moral obligations of second hand news reporting, because if you report something you didn’t see then you can destroy an innocent man or womans reputation which has happened thousands of times . And even though they were proven innocent beyond a doubt they can never recover from it. Im not saying sandusky is innocent and if he is found guilty then he deserves the worst they can give him, my problem is everyone who is covering this story has forgotten all about the victims and have turned this into a personally vendetta against joe pa who is probably the only one that did the right thing. And the more I read comments from people like some on this blog the more i believe they are the same idiots that reelected clinton after getting bjs in the oval office and some how didn’t see anything morally wrong with the president of are country committing adultery in the white house. And I havent seen any of the same media or idiots that listen to everything they hear based purely on soeculation by companies thats soul interest is to make money bashing syracuse its bot, directors or head coach.
    Syracuse has claimed everything penn state has, that they investigated but found no grounds to do anything, the coach said he knew nothing about it,yet he was aware of the allegations , only if this one is true its even worse because it did directly involve the active coaching staff and kids who actually were involved in the basketball program ,not some charity run by a fired coach that the bot gave access to facilities. And what , was joe pa suppose to actually patrol the campus now to,give me a break, your the same group that for the last seven years claim the man didnt even run his own football team, that he was nothing but a puppet/figure head. But now he can walk on water, turn dirt into gold,stop a speeding train, tell president obama what to do.
    Thats How silly you sound .

  13. deadeye says: Nov 25, 2011 11:19 AM

    “It’s disgusting to me to read comments that are obviously posted by people who watch Faux News or listen to Limpbaugh or read the National Enquirer- in other words people with no grey matter. Look that up in your Funk and Wagnells Pa. losers. Paterno did what he could.”

    ================================

    Only a person with no grey matter could honestly believe that Paterno did “what he could”.

    Paterno did what could? Really? I guess he was such a feeble old imbecile that picking up the phone and calling the police was beyond his capacity.

  14. Romulus says: Nov 25, 2011 11:34 AM

    It’s disgusting to me to read comments that are obviously posted by people who watch Faux News or listen to Limpbaugh or read the National Enquirer- in other words people with no grey matter. Look that up in your Funk and Wagnells Pa. losers. Paterno did what he could. The Administration- being Republicans-
    did NOT.
    —————–
    amen!!!

  15. kdbroom says: Nov 25, 2011 11:38 AM

    “burntorangehorn says:
    Nov 25, 2011 10:10 AM

    It’s ridiculous that people are blaming Paterno for actions he never witnessed by a man who was no longer even in his employ.”

    Wow. So let me get this straight. I am supposed to feel ashamed of myself because I blame a living legend for failing to use his power to stop child molestation going on in his midst? And I’m supposed to feel that way simply because he didn’t see it himself (“he never witnessed”) and because the perpetrator wasn’t his subordinate any longer (“by a man who was no longer even in his employ”)? Sorry, that isn’t going to happen. Joe Paterno knows he should have done more. He even admits that himself….now that all of this has come out.

  16. birdcen says: Nov 25, 2011 12:47 PM

    People who still have support for Paterno are complete idiots. Your school will NEVER be the same….EVER! Democrats are dumb. Penn State is horrible. Defend that!!!!!!!

  17. burntorangehorn says: Nov 25, 2011 12:50 PM

    What was he supposed to do? He didn’t witness it, and the guy didn’t work for him then or ever again. He elevated the rumor brought to him by McQeary. If anyone was grossly negligent in this, it was McQueary for not immediately doing what common sense dictated: calling the police. When someone comes to you with second-hand information, do you (a) elevate it to those administratively responsibe, or (b) ruin a guy’s career based on what may well have been a rumor?

    I think it’s easy for people like you to imagine all this in a bubble, but it’s because you’re not considering reality and circumstances, instead relying on Captain Hindsight.

  18. deadeye says: Nov 25, 2011 1:19 PM

    “He elevated the rumor brought to him by McQeary.”

    ============================

    McQueary was an eye witness. His description of the shower incident was not a rumor, it was a first hand eye witness account. If Paterno understood that McQueary saw Sandusky with his own two eyes, then he had a responsibility to treat it with a sense urgency beyond that of a mere rumor. Passing it up the chain is all that was legally required, and on that basis he is not being indicted. However, Paterno obviously could have done so much more.

    Yes McQueary was negligent in his handling of the situation. Virtually every single person is disgusted by the fact that he didn’t immediately rescue the child being abused the moment he saw it. However, that does not excuse Paterno’s lack of urgency in the matter. What McQueary saw was NOT a mere rumor.

  19. dirtyharry1971 says: Nov 25, 2011 1:20 PM

    well her husband no longer works for the university and to be honest she should be as welcomed as i would be. And since im neither a student or on the payroll (thank god) i shouldnt be welcome to use their pool. Bottom line is they should just close the entire university as its been nothing but one big mistake from day 1

  20. kdbroom says: Nov 25, 2011 2:14 PM

    Here is what Paterno should have done….go directly to the police to tell them what McQueary saw. It doesn’t take hindsight on this event. Going to the police is a no-brainer.

    I would like to think that most people would take something like that directly to the police, and not simply telling their boss. This incident wasn’t like Sandusky was stealing office supplies, or sleeping on the job. What if McQueary told Paterno “Hey, I just saw Sandusky kill a child.”? Would it be appropriate for Paterno to simply tell his boss and then go back to business as usual? Hell no. That was a violent crime, not simply a workplace issue.

  21. iownyou2 says: Nov 25, 2011 3:05 PM

    If you people are calling for Paterno’s head why are you not after the janitor that WITNESSED an event with Sandusky?? Or with Second Mile who ran a poor investigation on the man they worked with daily? Instead you’re after the guy who was passed along information and reported it AND followed up multiple times to those he reported it to. And yes if you read something other than espn you will learn that he did follow up.

    To answer my rhetorical question from above for everyone, its bc none of their names are Paterno. Plain and simple.

  22. zurnvs says: Nov 25, 2011 4:05 PM

    @iownyou2

    JoePa was the HMFIC, that is why he took all the heat. Everyone dropped the ball in this entire incident. It will get worse before it gets better. It will kill this program for years to come. It is sad it came to this. When you make poor choices, you will be held accountable.

  23. dkhhuey says: Nov 25, 2011 4:07 PM

    @own – sorry, the janitor in question is no longer able to do much of anything since he suffers from advanced stages of dementia from the reports I’ve seen posted online.

  24. iownyou2 says: Nov 25, 2011 5:44 PM

    @zurnvs
    You basically just proved my point, he was not the HMFIC that would belong to school AD, president, etc. Who happen to be the ones he reported too. BUT nobody has ever heard of them, therefore they are forgotten in all of this.

    @dkhhuey
    I am aware this man has dementia, to clear up what I was saying is that he did not have it at the time of the incident, therefore he is more obligated than anyone to go to the cops. But again he is not Paterno so he is lost in all of this mess.

  25. tigrrrr says: Nov 25, 2011 6:13 PM

    All of you paterno supporters, let me ask you a question. Are any of you a dad or mom?
    Get a grip on reality! He should have called the police… Period.

  26. pftstory says: Nov 25, 2011 8:28 PM

    Paterno also could have simply gone to the police and taken McQueery with him.

    He also could have arranged for someone to beat the snot out of Sanduscky and maybe even had his penis removed.

    Its child rape and people want to say “well he told his boss, what more could he do?” Like Paterno was not defacto king there?

    No curious questions like “Hey what was the result of what O told you McQueery saw?”

    Or..Why is this guy (who poeple say he hates) still on campus after what McQueery said he saw?

    Paterno is either making sure the rapist has nothing to do with the campus, or making sure the guy who wrongly accused him of being a child rapist (and witnessing it) has nothing to do with his program. Instead BOTH are around? That makes no sense. He should have wanted to know the results of a thorough investigation. But “I told my boss” is enough in anyone’s mind? Paterno’s, McQueery or the people hear defending any of this?

    YIKES

  27. dmcgrann says: Nov 25, 2011 11:27 PM

    For those of you who want to blame politics for everything, you may have heard of this little escapade, also in Pennsylvania:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kids_for_cash_scandal

    The convicted judges in that matter were both Democrats.

    It’s sad to say, but to the untrained eye, it appears that Pennsylvania isn’t doing a very good job of protecting its children.

  28. dmcgrann says: Nov 25, 2011 11:31 PM

    tobeexact, you say “…its a well known fact paterno could not stand sandusky what so ever…”?

    Really? Then why did Sandusky work for Paterno for thirty years?

  29. tobeexact says: Nov 26, 2011 8:41 AM

    Just because someone works for you or with you doesnt mean you have to like him. So I guess everyone in america would either not work because they dont get along with there co workers or because there boss or one of there bosses doesn’t like them even though they do a great job should be fired.
    And to answer another question posted above ,yes I am a parent of two kids ,a daughter and a son,i can say without a doubt in my mind if I saw sandusky or the president or anyone committing such an act , they would be locking me up for murder. Now I have a ?, so if lets say one of your friends comes to you and states that your dad is a molester or a rapest, what would you do, and think about it before you just blurt out the answer of what you think you would do just because its a comment on a computer screen. Also lets say it want your dad but a neighbors mom or dad, and if you report it and your wrong, first you just ruined someones reputation and the fact there going to sue you til you and your family are homeless because you violated the law on moral grounds,yes thats right you didnt fulfill your moral obligation,it does go both ways.
    Im just not going to condemn a man that has done so much for not only student athletes or students or all the charity work his family has done without the facts ,if it turns out that he somehow screwed up then so be it, then he deserves whats coming his way.
    And this is a fact but the info of where and when I cannot state but while serving in the military I witnessed stuff that will haunt me the rest of my life , being told to stand down because you cant get involed even though every moral fiber in your body told you to do something , and until your in that position you dont know what its like.
    And yes i have to mention the syracuse basket ball alleged scandal again, because I was watching games being played yesterday and syracuse was one of them ,yet espn didnt mention one word about it. But even when penn states football team who wasnt even playing was still one of if not the main topic . The guys playing on this team had absolutely nothing to do with this ,yet they are unjustifiably being tied into this . And its well known that even the game this weekend against wisc. they will be trying to beat not just wisc. football team but the refs , the big ten and the media as well.

  30. tobeexact says: Nov 26, 2011 9:03 AM

    As far as the main subject of this blog,sue paterno being denied access to the swimming pool my question is to any penn state students who dont for what ever reason have the luxury of going home for the holidays ,are these facilities actually closed. So this means you cant go to the gym, library , computer room, they dont have a dining facility open for you to eat breakfast, lunch or dinner at. So are they saying that you basically have to stay in your dorm room .
    And these comments by other students from universities that are basically bashing even the students at penn state and saying they should just close the school down is among the most ridiculous and absurd gestures being posted , especially when there coming from students from schools dealing with scandals them selves ,so I guess they should punish you as well and close your schools up as well, hey while were at it keys just get rid of higher education all together, especially adobe at least 85% of all students attending college participate in under age drinking and are having sex on tax posters dollars. Just listen to your comments ,it sounds like something that would happen in middle school,is this what my taxes are being used for.

  31. tobeexact says: Nov 26, 2011 9:20 AM

    And here is a person who no one is bringing up,mcquerys dad who from what I know is some kind of doctor and was told by his son the night it allegedly happened. Now if anyone had a moral obligation it would have been him, yet like his son he chose to do nothing but advise his son to talk to joe pa the next day. How is this guy lost in all of this, but your all still so quick to blame another person who didn’t hear about it until the next day. And I still have the biggest problem with the bot who control all access to the university including sandusky, they allowed him to keep his access to the university knowing damn well what was going on with this man. And to the youth organization that even after a first allegation still allowed this msn access to there kids, even little league baseball and football have more strict rules in place.

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