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Virginia Tech, West Virginia lagging in bowl ticket sales

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One of dumbest things about the bowl system, especially the BCS bowls, is the designated ticket allotment that many bowl organizations make schools purchase upon getting the bid. For the five BCS games, it’s ridiculous and nothing more than another way to weasel more money out of where it belongs: with the school.

Most of the athletic departments have been able sell out their ticket allotment and in a hurry this year. Oklahoma State, Oregon, Michigan, Stanford, Wisconsin — they’ve all either sold out or are close to selling out their ticket allotment. Of course, that doesn’t mean every single one of those fans will show up. Additionally, some fans go to ticket sites and buy them for a cheaper price rather than go through the school.

It’s a broken system that benefits the bowls and not the schools. A program’s fortunate if their conference ponies up the tab for whatever money they lose in required ticket sales.

But two schools haven’t sold out their allotment this year and they’re not even close.

Virginia Tech and West Virginia.

Neither should really be in a BCS game this year, but the one thing you can say about each is that their fans usually travel well. Not this year, at least not so far. The Sugar Bowl and Orange Bowl “gave” VT and WVU 17,500 tickets; Tech has sold just over 9,300 and WVU around 5,700, according to each program’s ticket office.

In fact, VT’s athletic department has started asking fans who can’t make the game to buy up proxy tickets to be distributed to military and charitable organizations in the New Orleans area.

Why again were the Hokies selected over Kansas State again?

For WVU, it’s astounding that the school may sell half of its allotted amount. WVU fans traditionally travel pretty well, especially to places they can drive to. Morgantown to Miami is a haul, but it’s doable. But placing these games in the middle of the week doesn’t help either.

Not that the BCS cares. They got their money from the schools and they’ll get more through advertising dollars and broadcasts. What happens after their check is signed and cashed is of no concern to them.

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38 Responses to “Virginia Tech, West Virginia lagging in bowl ticket sales”
  1. goblue714 says: Dec 12, 2011 4:32 PM

    I’m totally shocked about this. Apparently delivering pizzas doesn’t pay well these days.

  2. deltamyhome says: Dec 12, 2011 4:32 PM

    If I went to a West Virginia football game I would take a billy club and a pair of brass knucks to defend myself.

  3. olskool711 says: Dec 12, 2011 4:43 PM

    Virginia Tech’s ticket sales are lagging?

    That doesn’t matter. This isn’t about the money!

    sincerely,

    Jim Delaney and his cronies.

  4. jaggedmark says: Dec 12, 2011 4:43 PM

    The the Sugar Bowl had selected eligible Baylor (RGIII vs Denard Robinson), the game would be sold out.

    Idiots

  5. udub says: Dec 12, 2011 4:43 PM

    You know who would be selling tickets?

    Kansas State

  6. jsmayer181 says: Dec 12, 2011 4:44 PM

    Why is everyone so suprised that VT isn’t selling well? They’ve had a horrible track record at the Orange Bowl this past year, and unlike their previous BCS appearances, this one’s coming off a championship game lost. People were holding up VT’s lack of sales last year as an example of what’s wrong with the ticket guarentee system. Why on earth did the Sugar Bowl think that they’d turn it around this year?

  7. lbijake says: Dec 12, 2011 4:54 PM

    The bowls should quit spending money on themselves. This is just one more reason why the bowls are not necessary. The should play fair or the can be eliminated.

  8. frug says: Dec 12, 2011 4:56 PM

    In the meantime, K-State sold out its Cotton Bowl allotment in less than 4 hours…

  9. fcmlefty1 says: Dec 12, 2011 5:01 PM

    Boise, Baylor and/or KState would have all had them sold already. I don’t feel bad for VT and/or the Sugar Bowl in any way, shape, or form.

    Feel a little worse for the Orange – they had no choice but to take West Virginia in this instance. They almost always seem to get a crappy match up for thier game. Doesn’t work out for them to get a marquee match up the years they pick 1st, and they really seem to get hammered in the years they pick last.

  10. normtide says: Dec 12, 2011 5:01 PM

    Since when did Baylor or KSU have a huge following? KSU was Futility-U and Baylor has been worse. RG3 would sell quite a few, but don’t act like these schools have a huge following.

    I agree that schools buying tickets is a sham at best, and more like a scam.

  11. olskool711 says: Dec 12, 2011 5:04 PM

    Actually, you guys really don’t get it.

    Its really not about the money. Many people have gone over this. Va Tech in the sugar bowl had more to do with cronies taking care of cronies than even money. They knew this would happen.

    College football is really corrupt. Start researching and reading.

  12. frug says: Dec 12, 2011 5:10 PM

    @olskool

    I think what this is really about is

    A) The Sugar Bowl’s (incorrect in my opinion) belief that V-Tech will draw more eyeballs on TV than K-State, Baylor or Boise

    and

    B) The Bowl’s desire to get a southeastern team.

  13. lanzurrah says: Dec 12, 2011 5:13 PM

    Neither deserve to be playing in a BCS bowl…

  14. fcmlefty1 says: Dec 12, 2011 5:13 PM

    “Since when did Baylor or KSU have a huge following? KSU was Futility-U and Baylor has been worse. RG3 would sell quite a few, but don’t act like these schools have a huge following. ”

    These long-suffering fans would have snapped up this chance to buy tickets to a big time bowl game. They’d have been like sharks when there is blood in the water

  15. effjohntaylornorelation says: Dec 12, 2011 5:57 PM

    More proof this is the least anticipated and worst BCS game. Just ask their fans.

  16. udub says: Dec 12, 2011 6:07 PM

    It’s not just about who has the biggest following when it comes to ticket sales.

    There is always burnout in fanbases. No one would argue Oklahoma has a large fanbase, but they struggled to sell tickets when they were last in the Fiesta Bowl. If you’re an OU fan and you went to the last couple Fiesta Bowls whats different going again especially if you’re playing UCONN. It happens all the time when good teams with good fans are always going to the same type of bowl game.

    That’s why Baylor or Kansas State would have been better choices. These schools going to the BCS for the first time, the fan’s would have gone nuts for those tickets.

  17. elm0helmet says: Dec 12, 2011 6:12 PM

    No one is going to buy tickets through the university when they can buy them through StubHub, TicketCity, etc. and a) actually find out where their tickets are located, and b) spend much less money on the transaction.

    Kudos to KSU for selling out their allotment, but the Cotton Bowl is smartly scheduled on a Friday night. Makes for a great weekend for fans in Dallas.

    The Sugar Bowl? Tuesday night. The Orange Bowl? Even worse, a Wednesday night. This most likely means 3 days off of work for everyone involved. Great scheduling, morons.

  18. tmb333 says: Dec 12, 2011 6:50 PM

    Just think….a playoff like the one I propose would have sold out every game. The first two rounds would be played at the highest seeded teams home field.

    Of course, why change to a format that would be fair and equitable to all teams and to the fans when you can control the best bowls. BCS bowls are now becoming a losing prop for some schools like all the other bowls are.

    Here is how the 2011 Playoffs would have looked under this proposed system:

    2011 National Championship Playoff Teams
    Week 15 BSC Rankings in (). Week 15 is final regular season BSC
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_NCAA_Division_I_FBS_football_rankings#BCS_ranking

    Automatic Bids

    ACC – Clemson (15)
    Big 12 – Oklahoma State (3)
    Big East – West Virginia (23)
    Big 10 – Wisconsin (10)
    CUSA – Southern Miss (21)
    MAC – Northern Illinois (NR54)
    MWC – TCU (18)
    Pac 10 – Oregon (5)
    SEC – LSU (1)
    Sun Belt – Arkansas State (NR55)
    WAC – Louisiana Tech (NR46)

    At Large Eligible

    ACC – Virginia Tech (11)****
    Big 12 – Kansas State (8)****
    Big East – Cincinnati (NR37)
    Big 10 – Michigan State (17) ****
    CUSA – Houston (19)
    MAC – Ohio (NR78)
    MWC – Boise State (7)****
    Pac 10 – UCLA (NR52)
    SEC – Georgia (16)****
    Sun Belt – Western Kentucky (NR101)
    WAC – Utah State (NR73)
    Independents – None in top 25 of BCS Notre Dame (NR30)

    Brackets
    Arkansas State (16) @ LSU (1)
    Georgia (9) @ Clemson (8)
    West Virginia (13) @ Boise State (4)
    Southern Mississippi (12) @ Kansas State (5)

    Louisiana Tech (14) @ Oregon (3)
    TCU (11) @ Wisconsin (6)
    Michigan State (10) @ Virginia Tech (7)
    Northern Illinois (15) @ Oklahoma State (2)

  19. goblue714 says: Dec 12, 2011 7:02 PM

    i’m sorry but that’s a poor playoff bracket. you can’t include arkansas state, west virginia, southern miss, louisiana tech and not alabama? where is stanford? how does MSU play at virginia tech? you put absolutely zero thought into this other than these guys won a conference. It’s poor because the conferences you include are schools that bigger schools beat up for wins.

  20. thefiesty1 says: Dec 12, 2011 7:24 PM

    The Orange Bowl deserves to go bankrupt putting two 7-5 teams in a “BcS” game. What a joke. The teams should only have to pay for how many tickets they actually sell, not some allotment to keep the bowl solvent after putting teams with poor records in their bowl.

    A half empty stadium would serve the old fogie bowl committees right and then also lose tv commercial dollars as well.

    The sugar bowl should be sued by KS or TCU for selecting VT instead of them.

    Also they should be required to sell their tickets at a reasonable price. Nobody should have to pay $100 or more for a seat at a bowl game, especially with teams that one will end up losing 6 games.

  21. orthomarine says: Dec 12, 2011 7:41 PM

    WVU brings spare teeth as seat fillers….

    Ahhh. WVU, where contracts go to die

  22. goblue714 says: Dec 12, 2011 8:25 PM

    In fairness WV is 9-3 and clemson is 10-3.

  23. cfbfaninbadnfltown says: Dec 12, 2011 8:40 PM

    Would you pay good money to see your team lose horribly?

  24. pastabelly says: Dec 12, 2011 9:31 PM

    Bowl games are also about tv ratings. Virginial Tech is a better tv attraction than Kansas State and it’s probably not even close.

  25. aka2211 says: Dec 12, 2011 10:15 PM

    The fiesty1,
    You should get your facts straight. Clemson is 10-3, not 7-5 !! They also have the best traveling fans in college football.

  26. tifosi73 says: Dec 12, 2011 10:18 PM

    Should be a lot easier when WVU wins the Big XII and they have to go to the Fiesta Bowl.

  27. dmcgrann says: Dec 12, 2011 10:59 PM

    I think that the WVU folks have seen quite enough of the vaunted “Dana Holgorsen high-powered offense” to last a lifetime. I wouldn’t want to pay an extra super-duper premium to watch them play Clemson in Miami, and in the Orange Bowl; WVU is more than likely to fall behind by the half and NOT come back, like they were able to do against Norfolk State and Marshall. Going to the game is throwing good money after bad.

  28. wvuandsteelers says: Dec 13, 2011 8:00 AM

    Let me give you my perspective as a WVU fan who was planning on going to whatever bowl they landed in…..until they landed in the Orange. Miami is not exactly inviting to a WV person. As I told my friend, we’re not 25 and we don’t speak Spanish. While Miami has some HOT women, they’re not going to be too interested in a bunch of rednecks (and I use the redneck term proudly). I was hoping for the Sugar Bowl against Michigan. I promise you we would have traveled to that. Clemson-Baylor in the Orange and WV-Michigan in the Sugar would have been better choices IMO.

  29. boisestatewhodat says: Dec 13, 2011 12:30 PM

    GOOD! I hope they don’t sell another single seat for the joke bowl. I hope it rains all week in New Orleans and that the game is a blowout…don’t care who wins, won’t watch. Boise State would be begging for more tickets right now. They sent 12000 fans to UNLV this season, 25000 to Georgia and over 30000 in both Fiesta Bowl they played in. They had a tougher strength of schedule than did VT, a better record and at least Boise State has 2 opponents ranked in the top 25…VT has none, played three ranked teams and lost 2 by a combined 48 points. Also, every single non-conference opponent Boise State played this season, won their conferences. The BCS is a joke and they’ve got egg all over their face now…laughable.

  30. m2connell says: Dec 13, 2011 3:32 PM

    Might want to add Clemson to the list. Washington Post says West Virginia has sold more ticket to the Orange than Clemson has. Link: http://wapo.st/sCZa1o

  31. fcmlefty1 says: Dec 14, 2011 5:31 PM

    @boisewhodat – I hate to do this, as I am a big Boise fan myself, but your last statement in your previous post is incorrect. None of Boise’s non-conf opponents went on to win thier conferences, and in fact, only 1, Georgia, even won thier division where applicable. Toledo finished 2nd in the MAC West. Nevada finished tied for 2nd in the WAC, and Fresno finished tied for 4th. Tulsa finished 2nd in the C-USA West. Decent, but not conference champs for any of them.

  32. cmpenny says: Dec 14, 2011 9:16 PM

    BCS corruption @ it’s finest!

  33. woebegong says: Dec 15, 2011 11:02 AM

    Money is tight these days and it has to be a compelling reason to spend the bucks it cost for tickets, hotels and the like.
    Florida can’t even sell out it’s alloted tickets to the Gator Bowl, and it is right down the street so to speak from Gainsville. Now that folks, is sad.

  34. csuxrr says: Dec 15, 2011 3:18 PM

    If Virginia Tech would have beat Clemson the second time this story wouldn’t even exist.Ticket sales would have been great considering WVU and Virginia Tech’s rivalry.I don’t dislike VA Tech as much as Pitt but it’s still a healthy enough rivalry to draw a crowd.

  35. harleyspoon says: Dec 18, 2011 12:40 AM

    Hey, Normtide, Baylor sold out its Alamo Bowl ticket allotment in two days….I am a season ticket holder. I ordered my tickets before I even knew what bowl game Baylor would get. The Alamo Bowl in the Alamo Dome in San Antone will be sold out…it probably already is!!! In the Grant Teaff days, Baylor has a great following…Since he retired and Baylor spent a bunch of years in the losing column, yeah, Baylor fans stayed home…That has changed under Briles. Last year we piled’em into Reliant Stadium for the Texas Bowl. When you put a good team on the field, they will come!!!

  36. goblue714 says: Dec 18, 2011 1:08 AM

    @spoon

    Give us a break, your team is playing a home game(cpl hrs from waco). When your team plays well over a thousand miles away(like michigan) and you sellout let me know. That’s every year for us B1G teams.

  37. waynefontes says: Dec 18, 2011 6:17 AM

    boisestatewhodat says:
    Dec 13, 2011 12:30 PM
    Also, every single non-conference opponent Boise State played this season, won their conferences. The BCS is a joke and they’ve got egg all over their face now…laughable.

    ___________________________________

    fcmlefty1 says:
    Dec 14, 2011 5:31 PM
    @boisewhodat – I hate to do this, as I am a big Boise fan myself, but your last statement in your previous post is incorrect. None of Boise’s non-conf opponents went on to win thier conferences, and in fact, only 1, Georgia, even won thier division where applicable. Toledo finished 2nd in the MAC West. Nevada finished tied for 2nd in the WAC, and Fresno finished tied for 4th. Tulsa finished 2nd in the C-USA West. Decent, but not conference champs for any of them.

    ___________________________________

    Ah, boisestatewhodat …..

    Good job. Don’t let those little annoying things called facts get in the way of your argument.

  38. thecynicalman says: Dec 18, 2011 8:00 PM

    I have my two WVU tickets paid for, however I will probably NOT be using them…A Wednesday Night in Miami? How the frell am I supposed to take three weekdays off in the middle of the week and pull it off? I agree with most of the comments about the Bowl’s being greedy and you might as well through in TV because the networks are probably behind all the mess! Too many bowls, nothing decided till the last minute and weeknight games…I will put my tickets in my scrapbook and watch the game on TV!

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