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Les Miles popping up on media’s NFL radar again

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Way back in late September, Mike Freeman of wrote that the perception some NFL executives have of the “wacky, Mad Hatter” persona of Les Miles “is changing drastically” and the LSU coach “will definitely be pursued by teams in need of a head coach at the end of the season.”

It’s not yet at the end of the season, but, with head-coaching axes already swinging in a couple of NFL cities, Miles’ name is already being attached to a professional vacancy.

In fleshing out a list of potential replacements for Tony Sparano, and despite how it worked out the last time the college route was taken by the organization, the South Florida Sun-Sentinel lists Miles as a possible candidate for the opening with the Miami Dolphins.  After finishing your eye roll, you can read the pros and cons as listed by the paper:

Pros: He’s the new Nick Saban or Pete Carroll, and there’s no where else for him to go but the NFL considering his salary ($3.75, plus performances bonuses) and growing reputation needs to be stroked.

Cons: Too many college coaches (Saban and Bobby Petrino) have put their toe in the NFL’s water and decided this life – where some players have more power and influence than the coaches – isn’t meant for them. He’s served as an assistant in Dallas, so he knows what he’d be getting into. You’d have to wonder what’s his motivation?

The fact that the Tigers are the only unbeaten team in college football this season and preparing for a date against Alabama in the BcS title game only adds to the allure Miles may hold for an NFL owner looking to make a “name” splash.  Instead of trying to plow new ground when it comes to Miles and any potential future in the NFL, I’ll simply refer back to what I wrote over two months ago on the subject as the opinion has yet to change.

Personally, Miles just “seems” like a college coach from where I’m standing.  Then again, I said the same thing about Jim Harbaugh before he left Stanford for San Francisco this offseason.  It’s unclear if Miles is cut from the same coaching cloth as Harbaugh, although we’ve heard The Hat described in the past as “a college coaching lifer” by those familiar with his thinking.

Again, though, similar things were being said of Harbaugh right up until he bolted for the 49ers.  In other words, LSU fans, buckle up; it’s going to be a bumpy next couple/few months on the speculation front.

This particular speculation front two months later, however, involves a team very familiar with Nick Saban circa 2006/2007.  Surely the Dolphins, a half-decade later, wouldn’t take the same tack with a coach who, like Saban, has taken on the shape and appearance of a college football lifer, would they?

Of course, I could be reading Miles completely wrong as well and he’ll join Harbaugh in the professional ranks in the not-too-distant future.  I honestly don’t think so, though.  Only time will tell, I guess.

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  1. vols84 says: Dec 13, 2011 7:11 PM

    Saban has said he regrets leaving LSU for the Dolphins. Would think Miles won’t make same mistake, but these guys do have monster egos.

  2. burntorangehorn says: Dec 13, 2011 7:19 PM

    Miles isn’t even half as good a college coach as he’s made out to be. Sometimes it’s better to be lucky than good, and he’s exhibit A.

  3. bozosforall says: Dec 13, 2011 7:34 PM

    burntorangehorn says:
    Dec 13, 2011 7:19 PM
    Miles isn’t even half as good a college coach as he’s made out to be. Sometimes it’s better to be lucky than good, and he’s exhibit A.

    He’s still better, by far, than Mack Brown (who does less with more than any other major college coach). Before it’s said and done, Les Miles will have more titles than Mack Brown (or any other Texas coach in the coming decades).

    And Miles knows where his bread is buttered…he’s a master recruiter and master motivator, skills that are mostly wasted at the professional level (just ask Nick Saban, who figured that out in two short years in Miami).

    Miles isn’t going anywhere, not with the deep pool of talent available to him for the plucking in the talent-rich South.

  4. suprmous says: Dec 13, 2011 7:57 PM

    Undoubtedly these fools haven’t heard him repeat over and over that LSU’s home for him and that’s where he’s staying. I don’t care what the rest of the country does to entice him whether it be college or pro he ain’t interested so he says, so they might as well give it up. The guys that play for him and the ones that sign to play for him love him and that’s just a hard cold fact. Hell, even the alumni that have played for him will tell ya that they’d even like to come back and play for him on occassion. Guess that says a lot huh? We’re blessed to have him and by Gawd I hope we get to keep him for a very long time.

  5. burntorangehorn says: Dec 13, 2011 8:21 PM

    bozosforall says:
    Dec 13, 2011 7:34 PM

    He’s still better, by far, than Mack Brown (who does less with more than any other major college coach). Before it’s said and done, Les Miles will have more titles than Mack Brown (or any other Texas coach in the coming decades).
    This is about Les Miles, who makes some of the stupidest in-game decisions many of us will ever see.

  6. tigersgeaux says: Dec 13, 2011 8:22 PM

    I have spoken with SouthernPatriots on numerous occasions about Les Miles. As a family they like him. They tell me that he is not a prideful and ego driven man as some previous LSU coaches were. He and his family love Louisiana, the weather, the people, and the food (especially crawfish etouffee, which SouthernPatriots have made for him) and lest we forget, the Louisiana grown grass.

    Coach Miles already has the best winning percentage, the best win ratio at bowl games, and will have the largest number of national championships soon.

    The majority of football players at LSU come from Louisiana, then a few from Texas, and a few more from the rest of the South, but mostly from Louisiana. If Miles can get one of the very top QBs in the nation who was previously leaning toward Notre Dame, that will greatly improve the QB situation next year and onward, given Mettenberger as the probable starter.

    Tigers Geaux!

  7. Deb says: Dec 13, 2011 8:50 PM


  8. capntaddy says: Dec 13, 2011 8:53 PM

    Lesticles is in a great place. He is a god in BTR. If he wins another NC, he will be able to live off of the money, respect and deference he banks among the citizens of La. for the rest of his life. Neither his ego nor his pocketbook need anymore. Given the high profile of college football, he’d be hard pressed to do better than what he already has. He makes plenty of money and stands to make plenty more, particularly in light of how young his current DAMN STRONG FOOTBALL TEAM is. If Chavis and the other supporting pieces stay in place, the Tigers stand to win a couple of NCs over the next couple of years, at which point, Les will be able to walk on water as far as the citizens of Louisiana are concerned.

    Les is not the egomaniac Saban is or greedy like Petrino, nor is he the “dummy” the media has attempted to make him. He is truly getting the last laugh, and he deserves it.

  9. Brian Basher says: Dec 13, 2011 9:51 PM

    burntorangehorn says:
    Dec 13, 2011 8:21 PM
    bozosforall says:
    Dec 13, 2011 7:34 PM

    He’s still better, by far, than Mack Brown (who does less with more than any other major college coach). Before it’s said and done, Les Miles will have more titles than Mack Brown (or any other Texas coach in the coming decades).
    This is about Les Miles, who makes some of the stupidest in-game decisions many of us will ever see.

    As long as he keeps winning he can make all the stupid in game decisions he wants and he’ll still be a better coach than Mack Brown and win more NCs…and just so you know I’m a Razorback fan

  10. vols84 says: Dec 13, 2011 10:24 PM

    If he didn’t leave for Michigan a few years back, doubt he will leave LSU until they escort him out. Why would he? Too much talent in Louisiana. That is an NFL factory.

  11. Deb says: Dec 13, 2011 10:50 PM

    @vols84 …

    Why would he? Well, bigger opportunity and bigger money come to mind. Come on, making the jump to the pros isn’t like making a lateral move from a winning program at LSU to a losing program at Michigan. Personally, I don’t think Les will leave LSU for the pros, either. Like JT, I think he’s a college guy. But that opportunity is tempting for a lot of coaches. And it doesn’t make them evil incarnate to want to try their hand at coaching in the NFL. It was refreshing to hear Andrew Luck be a man at the Heisman and not talk about Harbaugh like he was Satan just because he’d left for the pros.

    As for Les sitting on the right hand … I can remember when everyone felt the same about Paterno. It’s infantile to deify coaches who work for your team and demonize them when they leave to work somewhere else. They’re all human with the same attributes and failings no matter where they coach–or how much you want to pretend otherwise.

  12. polegojim says: Dec 13, 2011 11:02 PM

    No chance he leaves LSU in the near future. WHY would he???

    No sour grapes from Michigan fans for Les staying at LSU, none at all. Michigan wasn’t right for Miles, even though he’s Michigan coaching born and raised. He had too much going well at LSU. Hoke was right for the Michigan opp and proving it.

    Les – ride the deal out at LSU as long as you can.
    He’s got another year or more at their current level, or very close to it. Geaux Tigers for Coach Miles.

    Oh… and Go BLUE.

  13. jgelis says: Dec 13, 2011 11:05 PM

    burntorangehorn, of all the fans to make such a statement about Miles!! Texas has a coach who wrote the book on underachieving. Brown consistently pulls in top 2 or 3 recruiting classes and virtually does nothing with them. It is truly mind-boggling trying to figure out how he is able to waste all of that talent. No!!!!!! A Longhorn fan is the last one to throw stones at another team’s coach.

  14. pastortodd78 says: Dec 13, 2011 11:23 PM

    Ask any Oklahoma State players from the Miles ere if you should trust what he says. He was telling them to ignore the rumors while he was meeting with LSU officials during the OSU bowl week. He lacks loyalty. That is why the majority of the former Cowboys cannot stand him.

    Also Miles led the RB meetings while the head coach at O-State yet he did not even know the name of all the players in those meetings during his time there. I know for a fact there was a player that was in every running back team meeting for his four years there, with Miles as his position coach and Miles never knew his name. Wow some great head coach there!

  15. polegojim says: Dec 13, 2011 11:36 PM

    Lacks Loyalty?

    You provide unprovable information and then shoot at the mans integrity?


  16. Deb says: Dec 13, 2011 11:40 PM

    pastortodd78 says:

    Ask any Oklahoma State players from the Miles ere if you should trust what he says. He was telling them to ignore the rumors while he was meeting with LSU officials during the OSU bowl week. He lacks loyalty. That is why the majority of the former Cowboys cannot stand him.
    Oh nooooo!!!!! Not Les!!!!! Why Les would never do such a thing!!!! Only that nasty ol’ Nick Saban claims he’s going to stay forever and be buried right on that very spot while he’s actually considering another job! 😆

  17. Deb says: Dec 13, 2011 11:49 PM

    Right, polegojim. It’s unprovable that Les told OSU players he wasn’t leaving then left. But when LSU fans post that Nick told their players he wasn’t leaving then left … well, of course, we all know that’s true. :roll:

    So glad I didn’t grow up believing Bear walked on water and that I know Nick is just … Nick. That way I don’t have to insanity at people who do nothing worse than accuse my coach of being human.

  18. Deb says: Dec 13, 2011 11:50 PM

    That was supposed to be rail insanity. Because it only requires proof when it’s about Les. :roll:

    Must leave now. Insanity gives me hives.

  19. pastortodd78 says: Dec 13, 2011 11:52 PM

    Want proof? Call in to the Sports Animal in OKC tomorrow afternoon when Sam Mayes is on the air. He played for Miles at OSU and cannot stand him because of what he did at the bowl game.

    The other claims come from another former player and were told to me firsthand.

  20. jc327 says: Dec 14, 2011 2:25 AM

    Miles is the luckiest man in College football. This year is the first that he’s looked like he’s had a clue, but up until now I’ve felt like he’s been fortunate that he hasn’t been able to out-dumb the amazing talent the Bayou Bengals have had down there…

  21. mempusa says: Dec 14, 2011 6:33 AM

    Les Miles isn’t capable of motivating 53 professionals.

  22. infrno says: Dec 14, 2011 10:44 AM

    and yet again the resident drama queen attempts to stir crap up just because her coach is a world class douche bag and ours is a pretty classy guy

    stay classy Deb, I bet you’ll never hear of Les Miles stepping over a convulsing player

  23. sprizzle2182 says: Dec 14, 2011 10:58 AM

    Since i’m a BAMA fan, i’m not going to get into my opinion on what kind of coach i think Les Miles is, but i will say this…i would be VERY surprised if he actually left Baton Rouge for the pros…he has a great team and has turned his persona around a lot this year, for him to just up and leave and hope for success in the NFL seems like to big a risk to take when your already making a butt load of money. Also, one thing i can say about Les is this, you can look in his eyes and see how much he loves his team and his players, and i can’t imagine he would leave them after the success they have had this season, it just doesn’t seem like something he would do. Les has been trying to shake this idea that he’s an idiot who can’t count, or tell time, and who eats grass, the last thing he would want to do is up and leave when ppl are just starting to respect him..i think he’ll be at LSU for at least a few more years…

  24. bayoubauer says: Dec 14, 2011 10:58 AM

    I haven’t always been the biggest LM fan, but i do like his personality, and right now, he’s doing what he gets paid to do, win football games.

    I hope he stays for a long time, but i’m not going to cry if he leaves for ANY job, be it pro or college. LSU is a top tier program, and would be able to attract a more than suitable replacement should Miles ever leave.

    Infrno, i like you already.

  25. soflatrojan says: Dec 14, 2011 10:59 AM

    What do Bama fans think about the Heath Evans interview from last week?

  26. sprizzle2182 says: Dec 14, 2011 11:05 AM

    soflatrojan: i think that Heath is an AU grad who decided he didn’t like the outcome of the IB…if it was soooo horrible and Saban was soooooo bad to his players, where has Heath been the past 6 years with this story?? and as a matter of fact, there is a quote from Jeno from when it actually happened and he said he was impressed to see coach saban come and spend so much time with him in the hospital…

  27. Deb says: Dec 14, 2011 11:07 AM

    Yes, infrno, you’re a drama queen if you criticize LSU or its coach in any way, shape or form. But Bama fans are supposed to sit silently while every commenter on the board takes shots at our coach on a thread about Les Miles. Every one of them could have “stayed classy” and just talked about Les without taking the shot at Saban. But they chose to rip Saban as a way of building up Miles … because that’s what you people do. You attack and demand total cooperation, conformity, and silence from fans of other teams. If you don’t get it, you call them names and gather the wolf pack.

    You LSU fans are just the salt of the earth. And God loves you.

  28. crindal3000 says: Dec 14, 2011 11:10 AM

    question: on a per hour basis who makes more money a top tier college head coach or an NFL head coach?

    guess: a college coach probably puts in about half the man hours a pro coach does.

  29. caliguy58 says: Dec 14, 2011 11:18 AM

    In addition to Saban, there’s also the story of Steve Spurrier and his big-time failure as an NFL coach for the Washington Redskins. One thing that has stuck out like a sore thumb with Les Miles is his unyielding loyalty to his staff, players, and LSU. Certainly, Les doesn’t need the extra money and the extra headaches that a move to the NFL would involve. And, if LSU wins the National Championship again this year, I think the LSU Board of Supervisors would generously reward Coach Miles and his staff. Looking at the overall picture, I don’t see where Coach Miles has much to gain with a jump to the NFL, but does have much to lose a la Saban and Spurrier.

  30. Deb says: Dec 14, 2011 11:19 AM

    @soflatrojan …

    I’ve already said I have no illusions about Nick–meaning his singlemindedness to get the job done. Guess you missed that … like you missed the fact that Evans is an Auburn grad with an ax to grind (kind of the way you have an ax to grind with me, big boy). And like you missed this paragraph:

    Yeremiah Bell, one of the few Dolphins on that team who still remains, remembered the situation a little differently Wednesday.

    “I recall the incident. He had abdominal cramps, full-body cramps,” Bell said. “I think it was a lot worse than what Coach Saban knew. I wouldn’t say he just stepped over him. Jeno was in pretty bad shape. I don’t think us as players knew how bad it was.”

    Gee, we’ve never read a report like that before … a player going down in practice and it taking a few minutes before coaches and players realize he’s really sick. Happened six years ago, and no one has ever talked about it before. You’d think if it were such a memorable horror all those Dolphins players so bitter at Saban for leaving would have told that story before. Wonder why Auburn’s Evans is suddenly ranting about it for the first time now … less than a month before Alabama’s back in the title game.

    Hmmmm ….

  31. soflatrojan says: Dec 14, 2011 11:20 AM

    I actually know one of the players Heath mentioned in the interview so I will find out if it is true this weekend. It would be a pretty incredible story to make up.

    I think most people involved with the Dolphins have bad feelings about Saban for one reason or another. He did cut Heath a few weeks after the incident.

  32. soflatrojan says: Dec 14, 2011 11:23 AM

    I didn’t read the story I just heard the interview on the radio. I just linked it so you would know what I was talking about.

    I honestly just wanted your opinion as a Bama fan.

  33. brutusbuckeye2011 says: Dec 14, 2011 11:24 AM

    Say it ain’t so Les. Let’s hope he doesn’t go to the pros. The Mad Hatter adds a lot of spice to college football. He and Dabo Swinney are the 2 most fun to watch coaches in football.

  34. bayoubauer says: Dec 14, 2011 11:28 AM

    Deb says:
    Dec 14, 2011 11:07 AM
    Yes, infrno, you’re a drama queen if you criticize LSU or its coach in any way, shape or form.

    Have you even read some of your own posts in the past? Sweetheart, you’ve been a drama queen as long as i’ve been coming to this site. It’s not JUST because you may have criticized LM or anything LSU related, you complain constantly, make sarcastic comments, and god forbid someone give one of your posts a thumbs down, you act like they just pushed you on the playground or something. Toughen up a little bit, and you wouldn’t be such an easy target.

  35. Deb says: Dec 14, 2011 11:31 AM

    bayoubauer …

    Just curious … how long have you been coming to the site?

  36. bayoubauer says: Dec 14, 2011 11:32 AM

    @soflatrojan …

    You asked her an honest question, and what does she do? She rips you……for what? Did you say anything negative or disparaging about Saban? No, you linked a story and asked her opinion as a Bama fan.


  37. bozosforall says: Dec 14, 2011 11:32 AM

    mempusa says:
    Dec 14, 2011 6:33 AM
    Les Miles isn’t capable of motivating 53 professionals.

    Neither were Nick Saban, Steve Spurrier, Lou Holtz, Bobby Petrino and a host of other past and present college coaches who tried to make the leap to the NFL.

  38. Deb says: Dec 14, 2011 11:37 AM

    @soflatrojan …

    Seriously? Then I apologize. I’ve made peace with some of the LSU folks, but when I’m around others, my back is up and my touchy control is on high. That’s the second time you’ve wandered in the middle of that. I kinda felt bad about the other time, too.

    It wouldn’t surprise me if Yeremiah Bell’s version is true–that the guy went down and Saban ignored it initially. He’s pretty intense and myopic when he’s coaching. But I think Evans embellished it for his own reasons.

  39. bayoubauer says: Dec 14, 2011 11:52 AM

    About a year or so

  40. Deb says: Dec 14, 2011 11:54 AM

    bayoubauer …

    I asked you an honest question and you gave me a thumbs down and ripped me in another post, calling my behavior “typical.” Guess you’re just not man enough to answer the question. No matter. You joined the site in August and never interacted with me until you started piling on when I got into conflict with other LSU fans–a conflict that was none of your bloody business. I’ve been on this site for years, you arrogant little squirt, and you have no idea what is “typical” for me. One thing no one has said about me is that I need to toughen up. It’s just a little more difficult to handle attacks from your “friends” than from the usual blowhards like you. It’s not a mistake I’ll make again.

    As I made clear the other day–or it would have been clear if you’d passed fourth-grade reading comprehension–I don’t care what some ass like you thinks of me or my opinions. You’re just some jerk who crawled out of a tar pit onto a blog. And you’re not even man enough to pick your own fights. You just jumped on the first woman you thought was an easy target. Guess those bayou tar pits cause a lot of shrinkage. Well, sorry to disappoint you, Mr. Soprano, but I’m not going anywhere. You can rave on, but I’m here to talk football. Don’t like what I have to say? Toughen up.

    And honey, I’ve been collecting thumbs down since long before you came along. This year I’m stringing them like popcorn around my Christmas tree. Bang away. LOL

  41. bayoubauer says: Dec 14, 2011 12:06 PM

    You’re here to talk football? Hypocritical much?

    You stay classy, lady.

  42. infrno says: Dec 14, 2011 12:15 PM

    Of course we can’t keep it on topic (Les Miles’ NFL prospects), we have to listen to an effing banshee wail and whine and otherwise act like a delusional nutcase and make the whole damned thing about her opinion of LSU’s coach as a person and LSU’s fans.

    Lady, you really need to seek help. Now please STFU and let the adults discuss football. Nobody likes your coach because he’s a world class asshole. Deal with it, this isn’t about lil Nicky and why he failed miserably at the NFL level and had to jump back in to the NCAA.

  43. Deb says: Dec 14, 2011 12:16 PM

    @bayoubauer …

    Yeah … I’ve been talking football on this site for years. That’s people years, not the dog years you were citing to claim August to December as a year that you’ve been here :roll:

    Stay classy? My, how original. Think that up all by yourself?

    Hypocritical much? Funny, but I don’t recall seeing you discuss much football. You just keep critiquing my personality. I’m flattered that you find me so fascinating, but it is a football site and eventually you’ll have to prove you know a little somethin’ somethin’ about the game.

  44. Deb says: Dec 14, 2011 12:22 PM

    @infrno …

    Aw hello, little boy peep. If you’ll recall, my posts were about Les Miles. Just peek back up there and you’ll see. But you didn’t like the football comments. So you started name calling … “drama queen,” “effing banshee.” If you want an LSU site, I’m sure they have one at Rivals. This is a multi-team site. And if you can’t take hearing dissenting opinions, too bad. You’re not going to just intimidate everyone else off the thread.

  45. Deb says: Dec 14, 2011 12:32 PM

    @bozosforall …

    Actually, Spurrier did succeed as a pro coach–just not in the NFL. He was extremely successful in the USFL. In fairness, he was Dan Snyder’s first head-coaching hire for the Redskins. So far, no one has been successful working for Dan Snyder.

  46. infrno says: Dec 14, 2011 12:50 PM

    Actually, your first post was nothing but a rolleyes, then you addressed the topic briefly, while throwing in your usual “LSU fans deify Les Miles” crap based on one single poster’s figurative language. Then you went completely batshit dramatic with:

    “Oh nooooo!!!!! Not Les!!!!! Why Les would never do such a thing!!!! Only that nasty ol’ Nick Saban claims he’s going to stay forever and be buried right on that very spot while he’s actually considering another job! ”

    And it went downhill from there.

    So no, hon, you neither stuck to the topic nor really to football at all. It was yet another attempt by you to drag Les down in that muck that everyone knows lil Nicky wallows in. I’m not sure why you continuously try to knock the man down on a personal level other than it just really irks you that no one outside of butt-munch Alabama thinks much of lil Nicky personally because we all have years of repeated instances where he’s proven what a douche he is.

    Now go make your husband a sandwich and leave this to rational adults.

  47. bozosforall says: Dec 14, 2011 1:04 PM

    Deb says:
    Dec 14, 2011 12:32 PM
    @bozosforall …

    Actually, Spurrier did succeed as a pro coach–just not in the NFL. He was extremely successful in the USFL. In fairness, he was Dan Snyder’s first head-coaching hire for the Redskins. So far, no one has been successful working for Dan Snyder.


    The USFL was a semi-pro league IMO, so I don’t really count that for Spurrier. Convenient? Maybe so, but it still wasn’t the NFL.

    And Marty Schottenheimer WOULD have been successful if Danny Boy would have kept him around for more than one season. As it was, he still has the best record among the Skins coaches that worked for Danni.

  48. Deb says: Dec 14, 2011 1:11 PM

    Gee, infrno, I’ve never had a little boy on the football blogs tell me to go make a sandwich before. How original.

    Did you miss the line in John’s story about eye-rolling? Or did you even read the story?

    Yes, Nick is a proven douche LOL They have a test for that. It’s called a douche biospy, and Nick tested positive. Of course, he didn’t test positive until he left LSU, did he? 😀

    Honey, I don’t care what you think of Nick Saban. He’s not my man or my kid. But the hypocrisy gets old. Every LSU fan commenting here made some asinine reference to Nick, rather than just discussing Les and his NFL prospects. I simply pointed out that none of these coaches are saints. They’re all human beings. Nick’s players at Bama love him just like Les’s players at LSU love him. Some of Les’s players from Oklahoma State hate him for leaving just like some of Nick’s players at LSU and Miami hate him. I haven’t done anything wrong or irrational. The only irrational thing is expecting that you should be able to denigrate another team’s coach because he’s a “proven douche” but no one should ever criticize your coach because everyone knows he walks on water.

    Like I said, you can call me all the infantile names you want. But these men are just people. Neither of them is a saint just because he coaches your team or mine. And neither of them is the devil just because he left one job and took another.

    Better hurry back to class now. Kindergarten recess is probably over.

  49. bayoubauer says: Dec 14, 2011 1:18 PM

    Yeah … I’ve been talking football on this site for years. That’s people years, not the dog years you were citing to claim August to December as a year that you’ve been here

    Yes, i’ve been coming to the site for a year or so. That doesn’t mean i created a profile from day one. It’s always been fun to read people’s comments. I just didn’t have an immediate desire to comment on any of them. If you’re going to take the time to see when somebody actually created their username, etc….then you should be smart enough to realize that maybe they’ve been around for a little longer than when they actually started posting stuff.

  50. Deb says: Dec 14, 2011 1:24 PM

    @bozosforall …

    Wasn’t a USFL fan myself, but Bandit Ball was wildly successful. Of course, it was all offense, and that’s anathema to me :) The NFL did pick up a few things from that league–though I’m not sure that’s a good thing.

    Yes, I’m with you on Marty. Great coach, and definitely the best thing Snyder has had going since he bought the team. Still can’t believe the Chargers dumped Marty with that record because he couldn’t make the big one. Gee … how’s Norv working out for ya? I like Norv, and he’s a terrific OC, but he’s had far to much talent the last few years for the results he’s been getting. Can’t believe the Chargers have been so patient. Fisher might be a good fit there.

    I really don’t think Les would leave LSU. He strikes me as a college guy, and he’s in a great situation. Definitely don’t think he’d be interested in Miami. That’s a pretty dysfunctional organization. But I can think of other teams that could make a much better pitch–if they decide to get rid of their current coach. You just never know. But as one guy posted, considering the hours you have to put in, I don’t know that a pro job is worth the extra money.

  51. Deb says: Dec 14, 2011 1:33 PM

    @bayoubauer …

    Well, for as long as I’ve been here, I’ve handled everything people have dished out–which has been considerable, especially on the pro side–until I let myself get caught up personally with people. And you’re right, that threw me off. Won’t happen again. I enjoy good-natured smack and can sling it with the best of them. That’s all I’m doing now.

  52. infrno says: Dec 14, 2011 1:36 PM

    Actually, doll, I only saw one person initially make any comment about Saban on a personal level, and the first 2 comments from LSU fans never mentioned lil Nicky at all. So, yet again, you’re a liar. You know, when you say something that’s blatantly and provably false? Go ahead, go back and read the posts and you’ll see without question that not “EVERY” LSU fan made any reference to Nick in their posts.

    As usual, you have to launch into retarded hysterics and make everything about how mean ol’ LSU people keep picking on poor you, poor lil Nicky, and poor poor Alabama.

    Waaaah, get a life.

    And yeah, I’ve stated many times that Nick was a douche when he was here and that I’ve never been sorry to see him go. And yeah, it does bother you (obviously) that pretty much everyone else recognizes Nick for what he is. A good college football coach that happens to be one of the biggest assholes on the planet. He has no class, no principles and absolutely no integrity.

  53. Deb says: Dec 14, 2011 1:44 PM

    @infrno …

    Are you still ranting about me and Nick Saban? Yes, yes, dear …. anyone who makes a comment you don’t like is retarded and hysterical. Somebody didn’t get his milk and cookies!

  54. cfbfaninbadnfltown says: Dec 14, 2011 6:23 PM

    @ Deb

    You got to stop thinking that going into the NFL as a head coach is always a step up from college. Leaving a championship team in college to coach a group of scrubs in the NFL isn’t always what it’s cracked up to be, just ask Butch Davis or Ron Meyer.

  55. bayou4u says: Dec 14, 2011 7:04 PM

    Burntorangehorn–your judgement is quite suspect given Mack the Knife’ performance and the fact the the Sips destroyeded the 12!!

  56. wjoinfo says: Dec 14, 2011 7:04 PM

    No way that Miles leaves the talent begging to come to LSU….7 out of 10 blue chippers in Louisiana sign with LSU…..

  57. dmcginity says: Dec 14, 2011 8:57 PM

    @ burntorangehorn

    burntorangehorn says:
    @ Dec 13, 2011 7:19 PM
    “Miles isn’t even half as good a college coach as he’s made out to be. Sometimes it’s better to be lucky than good, and he’s exhibit A.”

    So, there you have it folks: burntorangehorn is Exhibit A of a clueless buffoon talking about college football coaching on the internet.
    Hey burntorangehorn! Why arent you paid millions to coach in the SEC? oh, thats right. You’re a pinhead azz clown!

  58. Deb says: Dec 14, 2011 9:16 PM

    @cfbfaninbadnfltown …

    No, I don’t feel the NFL is a step up from college. But some coaches seem to feel that way–like it’s the equivalent of going to the majors.

    I think they’re two different games requiring two different skillsets. You can be a great NFL coach and fail miserably at recruiting on the college level. Or you can be a great college coach who’s unable to motivate pro players. I think if you find your niche and rise to the top–like Bear Bryant and Vince Lombardi–why switch paths?

    Les has found great success at LSU and seems happy there. I don’t think he’ll trade that for the NFL. (I wouldn’t. :) ) But as with Jimmy Johnson and John Harbaugh, you can’t predict what’s in someone else’s head.

  59. Deb says: Dec 14, 2011 9:18 PM

    Sorry … I meant Jim Harbaugh. Sometimes it’s hard to keep my Harbaughs straight 😉

  60. waynefontes says: Dec 15, 2011 9:03 AM

    Les Miles would be a fool to leave LSU. What a great situation he’s in.

    I do wonder if he would’ve gone for Michigan had it not been the timing of the speculation, right before the SEC Championship game and a possible BCS title game.

    Interesting how Herbstreit played a role in that…..

    For the money? The difference in money isn’t that great and these days the top college guys are getting closer to the same figures.

    For the challenge? Perhaps but….

    I’ve never understood why so many want to leave a great position in college where they could stay for decades and become a legendary figure loved by millions to go 32-32 and be fired after 4 years in the NFL.

    Very few coaches become legends in the NFL.

    As opposed to being the king of Baton Rouge, the toast of Louisiana. You have less stress, less scrutiny and you get to pick your players. Your schedule each year is very managable and nothing in the NFL matches the true passion and tradition of the SEC with their storied rivalries.

    Sounds like a dream job.

    I don’t think Les would leave, but if he did college football would lose a great coach and definitely one of the more entertaining ones I’ve seen in many years.

    Happiness and quality of life are two perks that make any job that much better.

  61. tigersgeaux says: Dec 15, 2011 10:37 AM

    @waynefontes–As Southernpatriots has posted to you many times, “you hit the nail on the head” once again.

    Schools in our area are planning the first week back after the Christmas break, to have LSU week. Wear LSU colors, tell stories of parents or family and friends who attended LSU, and so on. And we are hours from Baton Rouge.

    I work at the only refinery that has expanded in the past 40 years or so, and the whole refinery is having an LSU week. A LSU jersey or shirt can be worn instead of uniform tops. Other supervisors have joined with me in purchasing LSU themed items and giving a party for our crews the night before the game. Well, back to my shift.

  62. Deb says: Dec 15, 2011 1:10 PM

    @waynefontes …

    Well, that’s it. Once you hit Les’s level in the NCAA, you’re set for a good long while. That rarely happens in the NFL. The Steelers are the only team that consistently hires coaches for the long haul. Even perennial winners can get fired if they don’t make or win the Super Bowl. It’s an unforgiving business. NFL coaches may be paid a little more than the top college coaches, but they have to put in a lot more hours. And these days, dealing with Roger Goodell is as difficult as navigating the NCAA and its plethora of sanctions. But it depends on a man’s personal ambitions, and only he knows those.

  63. sportsfan2011 says: Dec 16, 2011 1:08 AM

    @Deb I have been reading ur comments for a few months now and I have to say that you are way overboard with ur analogy of football in general. we all know you hate LSU and ur an elephant fan (Bama). You rave and rant on Tiger droppings all year now you put ur poison on CFB. Are you still butthurt that BAMA backed their FRICKIN way into the NCG? If it wasn’t for Nick Saban crying to media ur arses wouldn’t be there, because to be honest if there were a playoff OSU would whoop ur butts. Now to the Les Miles situation. He’s not going anywhere anytime soon. Do us all a favor and keep ur comments reasonable. You are losing what little credidibilty women have in sports as of now.

  64. waynefontes says: Dec 16, 2011 9:51 AM


    I really enjoy your posts and I have all the respect in the world for Mr. Southernpatriots. I really do enjoy sitting at the learning tree reading what he has to say.

    You guys are great representatives of LSU fans.


  65. Deb says: Dec 16, 2011 12:37 PM

    sportsfan2011 …

    I’ve been commenting on this site for a few years with no problem. Many people have enjoyed my football commentary and it’s still well-respected on PFT–and believe it or not, by some on CFT who talk to me elsewhere rather than risk being attacked here as I have been. The southernpatriots provide good commentary and I was always extremely supportive of them. I’ve vigorously defended LSU as an SEC member and took on all comers defending your players when they had legal problems earlier in the year. I have continued to congratulate the team and its coaches on their achievements despite the treatment I’ve received from their fans.

    My issues started with a minor squabble between a couple of female LSU fans that escalated when several others, notably tigersgeaux, piled on. She came onto the site without provocation shrieking Bible verses at me, calling me a blasphemer, and telling me I was condemned because I’d had a mild disagreement that was none of her business. No waynfontes, I don’t think raining fire and brimstone on another woman commenter without provocation or soliciting friends to do likewise is a great representation of LSU fans or of women on sport blogs. But to each his own. I have no intention of allowing those tactics to drive me from a site I’ve enjoyed since long before such people arrived. But your message is received, and I will not bother you further.

    sportsfan2011, my only problem with LSU is a handful of fans who’ve attacked me nonstop since Alabama made it to the title game. If you think Alabama is there because our coach whined to someone … then no, you wouldn’t appreciate my football commentary. My comments are real-world not based on silly fantasies.

    God bless :)

  66. Deb says: Dec 16, 2011 1:00 PM

    Wait a minute, sportsfan2011 …

    I just noticed you said something about me ranting and raving on “Tiger droppings” all year. Is that a sports Web site? If so, that wasn’t me. I’ve never posted on any sports Web site other than CFT/PFT, not even a Tide or Steelers site. And the only name I’ve ever used here is “Deb.” If there’s a Deb on Tiger Droppings, it’s not me.

  67. Deb says: Dec 16, 2011 1:21 PM

    Oh … and this is the kind of credibility my posts routinely have outside the confines of this very small and very petty group of nuts:

    13oct1960 says:
    Dec 15, 2011 11:03 PM
    I wouldn’t get into it with Deb. She’s logical, reasonable, well-spoken and confident, and she backs up her statements with actual facts, of which she appears to have quite a few. She’s also intelligent and very knowledgable.

    Ladies, you don’t have a prayer!

  68. Deb says: Dec 16, 2011 2:13 PM

    By the way, waynefontes, southernpatriots is a group of people, not an individual. But the one on the keys is usually female, as is tigersgeaux. So you’re sitting at the learning tree of a woman. :roll:

  69. Deb says: Dec 16, 2011 2:53 PM

    And sportsfan2011, since I’m already off on a tear, let me re-post some of my year-long “hatred” of LSU that you and their other fans claim to have been reading on this site. I know it shouldn’t bother me, but I’m just a little tired of the ongoing chorus of unchallenged liars:

    Deb says:
    Aug 20, 2011 9:54 PM

    Coach Miles has enough on his mind these days, and has handled this appropriately as the information has emerged. Hope he can iron this out quickly and focus on the season ahead. I have no idea what happened, other than the players should not have broken curfew. But after seeing videos of people harassing and spitting on NFL coaches and players then expecting them not to react, I wouldn’t automatically assume the players acted without provocation. Maybe the guys in the hospital are innocent victims … or maybe they instigated the whole thing and are now looking for a quick payday.

    Deb says:
    Aug 25, 2011 6:51 PM
    @oldforester …

    In the story of the LSU players held at gunpoint, the authorities have said they were the victims. You can’t just take every incident that happens involving LSU players and decide they’re Hell’s Angels. You have to look at the individual facts.

    The fact here is that we still don’t know what happened in that bar parking lot.

    Deb says:
    Aug 30, 2011 1:14 PM
    @timmons94 …

    How do you know Jefferson kicked someone in the head when he was on the ground? So far, the only people saying that are friends of the guy on the ground. And the guy on the ground was thrown out of the bar for harassing women, then went into the parking lot and started a fight. We know that from objective third-party witnesses. Other people, including the bartenders, have said Jefferson wasn’t even involved in the fight.
    Deb says:
    Nov 5, 2011 11:54 PM
    Well, I don’t know whether they’ll be updating the site tonight and I won’t be on again late tomorrow afternoon. So congratulations on the win. I had to mute Gary Danielson at the end because he kept carrying on with all those statistics–which mean nothing. Each game is a new experience. And on this one, I felt Les did a fine job.
    Deb says:
    Nov 6, 2011 12:23 AM
    @southernpatriots …

    Les does seem pretty zen. I’ve really come to like and respect him as a coach. … Can’t remember when I’ve seen two more closely matched teams. … This may not have been a good showcase for Lee, but I thought Jefferson was the better QB. Would like to see what he can do going forward.

    Deb says:
    Nov 30, 2011 2:28 PM
    Not really sure what this is about, but if these players [LSU players including Jarrett Lee] were academically eligible to play for the entire season, it would be monstrously unfair to rule them academically ineligible for the post-season.

    Deb says:
    Dec 14, 2011 2:43 PM
    Congrats to all the fine players being recognized! As a Bama fan, I’m especially proud of the six Tide players on the list and the 19 total SEC players represented.

    I never realized LSU’s punter Brad Wing was only a freshman. Special congratulations to that young man for making the first team!

    Deb says:
    Dec 14, 2011 3:21 PM
    bozosforall says:

    when was the last time both 1st team cornerbacks where from the same team?
    It’s never happened before (at least not since the AP started picking seperate offensive and defensive teams in 1964).
    Wow!! Congrats to Mathieu and Claiborne on that achievement!! And props to Ron Cooper, the Tigers’ defensive backs coach.


    Yes, sportsfan2011, my ignorant, unsportsmanlike hatred of LSU has been spewed all over this board all season.

    Maybe you should learn to read before you post. Or are you just a pathalogical liar or mental incompetent like the rest of these people?

  70. Deb says: Dec 16, 2011 2:59 PM

    My conscience is clear because I know the good sportsmanship I’ve shown LSU since I’ve been posting on CFT–and just proved it with only a sampling of my posts. It is what it is.

    Have a nice day :)

  71. suprmous says: Dec 17, 2011 2:59 AM

    sportsfan2011, as of now I being one of Deb’s enemies on here will attest to being just that: one of her enemies. She has no love for me or another by the name of ladyhuckleberry, just a hard cold fact; tho she knows nothin bout us.

  72. Deb says: Dec 17, 2011 12:50 PM

    @suprmous …

    Funny, I thought I’d made peace with you and have tried to be polite with you ever since. Silly me. The cold hard fact is that I asked ladyhuckleberry to stop making accusations at people every time she posted and she attacked me and my team. We had a squabble and it was over. Then you jumped in and attacked me–making no reference to anything she’d said to me, just pretending it was all me. That’s the cold, hard fact.

    The cold, hard fact is that people I’d trusted and supported and jumped in to defend on countless occasions came on and embraced you and ladyhuckleberry during that altercation simply because you were LSU fans. Never mind the right and wrong of it. And that hurt.

    The cold, hard fact is that tigersgeaux then jumped into something that was none of her business, railing Bible verses at me and screeching like some demented snake-charming preacher. Then other LSU fans climbed on, all personal friends off the blogs joining together in some bizarre vendetta. That’s the cold, hard fact.

    The cold, hard fact is that I’ve already told you I’m sure you’re a good person and that I have nothing against you and would just like for this to end–so why are you here posting some nonsense about an enemies list?

    The cold, hard fact is that I’ve tried to talk football on this thread, but a group of friends off the site are determined to keep setting me up. I’ve never had a problem with waynefonts, but he went out of his way to ignore my football comments and make clear that he’s taking sides in something he knows nothing about. The cold, hard fact is that sportsfan2011 has never posted on this site before but suddenly registered out of nowhere for the sole purpose of attacking me, claiming I’ve been posting hate at LSU on this site and some site I’ve never heard of all year. All lies. And I’ve proved I haven’t posted hate for LSU on CFT.

    If you’re half the person you claim to be, you might ask yourself why someone who has never been on this site before would register suddenly and post lies about me being on other sites–I’ve never been on any sports sites but CFT/PFT–and lies about me posting hate at LSU here. Every time things settle down, some mystery person shows up to attack me again, suprmous. Come on. If you’re really not part of all this, why don’t you stop and think about how my posts manage to get so many thumbs down when normally there aren’t that many people on the site. Girl, you don’t know anything about me either. And neither do these people who’ve made it their mission to drive me off this site. You know I’ve tried to make peace with you–and you can see I tried to make peace with some of the people posting earlier on this thread.

    So what’s the deal here? Why are you still carrying on about me viewing you as an enemy?

  73. suprmous says: Dec 19, 2011 2:58 AM

    Deb, no matter what I say I’ll always be a thorn in your side and you damned well know it just as whatever ladyhuckleberry will and God knows that l’il ole lady doesn’t deserve the treatment you dished out to her. Ladyhuckleberry tried to take up for me when you told her you hadn’t tried to run ppl off. She felt that you’d run me off b/c of some things you’d said to me, i.e. calling me a Bourbon Street Witch among other things. And of all things to accuse Southernpatriots of embracin me’s for the birds. They were just bein nice. Neither I or them know eachother, you’ve known them longer and I dare say that I’d know anybody on here if I were to bump into em at a game or on the street. Sooooooooo, where do we go from here?

  74. tigersgeaux says: Dec 19, 2011 3:22 AM

    I know this is not the thread but I can’t locate it right now about how LSU players may lose elligibility for the national championship game.

    Update: The “journalist” had his facts wrong. AD Aleva indicated no athletes were at risk, any more than normal (every semester is a risk for any student in that sense). The semester is now history and no football players failed or earned grades subjecting them to become inellegible for the Superdome game on Jan. 9th. Source: Coach Les Miles himself on a radio and newspaper interview.

    Story was poor journalism which the reporter is gaining a reputation for.

    Latest report from SouthernPatriots’ Appalachian Outreach is that some former WVU Mountaineer football team members are helping with carrying the sick to clinics and hospitals. Their muscles are really coming in handy. I will be joining SouthernPatriots for my vacation time after Christmas.

  75. Deb says: Dec 19, 2011 1:31 PM

    suprmous, I hadn’t said anything to you at all when ladyhuckleberry posted her comment about running people off. Read the thread. I thought she was talking to people in general because she’s made a lot of posts like that. So I finally butted in and told her a football blog might not be the place for her. I should have minded my own business. We got into a catfight that would have ended there had you not suddenly popped in after it was over and gone on the attack, then received assistance from more of the LSU faithful.

    I know that you aren’t personally acquainted with southernpatriots, but many others here are off-the-blog friends. I was disappointed that people I’d always championed waded into the middle of our conflict and called you by name to suddenly start being super friendly. It was the imaginary kiss on the forehead–a way of taking your side without coming out and doing it overtly. I felt at the least they could have remained neutral. But that was between me and them and should have remained so. Unfortunately, in their absence, their friends have waged a vicious campaign to drive me from the blog. None of that has anything to do with you or ladyhuckleberry, and my posts aren’t directed toward you. As far as you’re concerned, I’ve moved on and wish you would as well.

  76. Deb says: Dec 19, 2011 1:49 PM

    But suprmous, the bottom line is that it’s a football blog and this has always been about football. All season long, I’ve defended LSU players through their difficulties, supported Les through his trials, and congratulated the team through its successes. Others talk a good game about supporting the SEC, but is is just talk.

    Even the salt-of-the-earth southernpatriots take every opportunity to refer to Saban as a prideful greedy liar while Miles–who has also misled recruits while planning an exit–is referred to as a Godly saint. And while I’ve always said LSU is the undisputed #1, deserving to be the favorite in the title match, my friends kept posting insulting comments about how Alabama should go play Boise State insome throwaway bowl … even after I politely asked them to stop insulting my team.

    Yes … all the attacks on me are ultimately because I’m an Alabama fan. No NCAA coach is evil incarnate–and none wears a halo. The same is true for the people posting on this blog … no matter much everyone want to hoist them onto a pedestal. We all have feet of clay.

    Y’all have a Merry Christmas!


  77. bozosforall says: Dec 20, 2011 6:25 PM

    burntorangehorn says:
    Dec 13, 2011 7:19 PM
    Miles isn’t even half as good a college coach as he’s made out to be. Sometimes it’s better to be lucky than good, and he’s exhibit A.

    You got OWNED, shorthorn boi.

  78. tigersgeaux says: Dec 20, 2011 7:27 PM

    @bozosforall and all LSU fans–(thanks to the daughter of a SouthernPatriots family member)–

    “The Home Depot Coach of the Year Award was presented to LSU head coach Les Miles as a part of The Home Depot College Football Awards Thursday, Dec. 8th.

    In his seventh season at LSU, Miles led the Tigers to a 13-0 record for the first time in school history. The Tigers have amassed 41 conference wins since Miles’ first season in 2005, which is more than any other SEC school. LSU’s current 8-0 record in league play was recently capped with a decisive 42-10 victory over Georgia, clinching Miles second SEC Championship with the Tigers.

    Of LSU’s 13 wins this year, eight have come against ranked opponents and seven of those eight have been double-digit wins. The 2011 team has ten 20-point wins this season, is the only unbeaten team in the FBS and the defense has allowed an average of only 10.5 points per game (second fewest in FBS).

    On Monday, Jan. 9, 2012 at the Mercedes Benz New Orleans Superdome, LSU will bring the nation’s longest winning streak – 14 straight – into the Allstate National BCS Championship game versus No. 2 Alabama. Should they win at the Mercedes Benz New Orleans Superdome, LSU will be the first team to beat nine Associated Press top 25 teams in one season. Honors and recognition have also come to Tyrann Mathieu, who won the Defensive Player of the Year award and Mo Claiborne won the Jim Thorpe award, following in the footsteps of Patrick Peterson who won the award last year.”

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