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BCS executive director: 50-60 ideas presented for postseason change

Alabama Crimson Tide head coach Saban holds the BCS trophy after defeating the LSU Tigers during their NCAA BCS National Championship college football game in New Orleans

One day after the BCS championship game, members of the BCS met today, as was indicated yesterday, to discuss possible changes to the postseason format of major college football.

There were reportedly a lot of ideas; somewhere between 50-60 to give you a ballpark estimate. BCS executive director Bill Hancock said after the meeting that the 11 conference commissioners will meet likely 5-7 more times and a decision is expected to come before July 4.

Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said ideas were presented, but not ranked or thrown out.

“It was far more open,” Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany said. “Four years ago there were five guys who didn’t want to have the discussion. Everyone here fully participated in it.”

I wouldn’t necessarily count on a definitive answer any time soon seeing as these things move at extraordinarily slow rates,  but any discussions about how to change the current system is progress.

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  1. olskool711 says: Jan 10, 2012 7:40 PM

    Will Jim Delany still be able to get his very mediocre teams into games they don’t deserve so his conference can split the money while screwing more deserving teams?

    It amazes me how people don’t understand how these fat prostitutes have full control over college football. The NCAA is out of it.

    Personal business entities who have full control over the competition of college football. And we get many people on this board who have no problem with it. I can understand why a little 10 or sec hillbilly likes things the way they are, but there are many of you who don’t have a clue.

    These are tax exempt money making cash cows where its promised that they will direct the money to the local communities, but the facts show they spend it on strip bars, vacations for everybody, huge dinner and bar tabs, unlimited golf, and even luggage for bcs friendly media people.

    The two boring, unimaginative teams that just played in the crystal ball trophy “championship” just split all the money for the sec while the rest of college football lived off the crumbs (1/400 of the amount) from games like the maaco bowl.

    The cartel is alive and well. And, they are not going to give up control unless the outrage forces it to happen.

    Take the game back and throw these guys in jail where they belong.

  2. pastabelly says: Jan 10, 2012 7:54 PM

    Nobody gives a crap about the bowl garbage. There would be so much more interest, money, and relevance to a 3-week 8-team playoff.

  3. jason1214 says: Jan 10, 2012 7:56 PM

    @olskool

    Many SEC fans are FOR a playoff. IF you remember, the SEC pushed a plus 1, and 5 of 7 conferences cried foul 4 yrs ago. Please tell me your squad, it will help me understand your anger.

  4. goforthanddie says: Jan 10, 2012 8:15 PM

    “50-60 ideas presented”

    And 50-60 ideas rejected at lightspeed.

  5. olskool711 says: Jan 10, 2012 8:17 PM

    Anger?

    Read the second to the last line of my post.

    My squad is the game. I have no passion for the football program of the school I received my degrees from.

  6. jason1214 says: Jan 10, 2012 8:48 PM

    @olskool

    I stand corrected. I think most of us can all agree BCS needs to change or go. You are right its about money. TV contracts, ratings, that is no fault of the teams. I have zero faith the 50 to 60 ideas will get dwn to one with this bunch.

  7. udub says: Jan 10, 2012 8:50 PM

    How on earth were there 50-60 ideas?

    How can there be that many possible changes, unless they started counted everything from playing the game in China to making field goals worth 4 points.

    Stay the same

    Stay the same w/0 automatic qualifiers

    +1 system

    8 team playoff

    16 team playoff

    What are the other 45-55 ideas?

  8. tk1966 says: Jan 10, 2012 8:54 PM

    1. Every team must compete in a conference (that means you, Notre Dame) – 10 conferences total

    2. Conference champions proceed to BCS Bowl game (Rose, Fiesta, Cotton, Sugar and Orange)

    3. Keep polls / formula etc. involved (plus, this also keeps open the possibility of controversy, which equals added interest). Top two teams to win bowls get to play one additional game

    3a. If you like, 4 of the 5 winners can play a mini-playoff. Who gets left out? Lowest ranking BCS Bowl winner.

    Either scenario maintains the importance of regular season wins – too many regular season losses, or wins against weak teams negatively affects ranking.

  9. rubbernilly says: Jan 10, 2012 10:03 PM

    My fear: that a 4 team playoff will be instantiated and it will divide the momentum pushing for change in the first place. Some people will think that 4 teams is great. Some will think it is at least something. Some will think that at least a 4 team playoff doesn’t ruin the way-things-used-to-be too much.

    And the push for a true playoff (at least 8 teams) will falter. Don’t get me wrong, 4 is better than the figure skating style system we have now, but the goal should be at least 8.

  10. vincentbojackson says: Jan 10, 2012 10:09 PM

    Pretty safe to say no good ideas came from Big Ten commissioner Jim Delaney. He’s possibly the biggest hurdle to change there is. He has no reason to want to change the current system that ensures more bowl tie-ins for his teams than they have bowl-eligible teams.

    Here’s a novel idea: Let teams earn their postseason opportunity instead of having it handed to them.

  11. suprmous says: Jan 10, 2012 10:11 PM

    If what they say’s true at least they’ve made some progress but I’m still not holdin my breath. I need more input from the Powers that Be. Off subj for a moment, tk1966 you wouldn’t happen to bet toby keith’s fan 1966 would you? Ok, back to the drawin board. So if they come up with a half way concrete plan lets hear em out then see if it’s legit on their end.

  12. tk1966 says: Jan 10, 2012 11:04 PM

    nope, wrong person

  13. Deb says: Jan 10, 2012 11:06 PM

    olskool711 …

    You do realize the SEC is the only conference that actually tried to persuade the other fools to at least have a +1 playoff? No, of course you don’t. It’s difficult to latch onto a rational thought while your head is spinning and you’re spewing vomit. Have you tried exorcism?

  14. overratedgators says: Jan 10, 2012 11:07 PM

    Jim Delany: “Four years ago there were five guys who didn’t want to have the discussion.

    And three of them were me, myself, and I.”

  15. Deb says: Jan 10, 2012 11:14 PM

    People either don’t know or don’t remember that the method of choosing the title winner prior to the BCS wasn’t any better and probably was worse. This system hasn’t been in place that long, and storm clouds already are gathering. The Justice Department is threatening to stick their fingers into the pie. Instead of complaining on blogs, write the president of your alma mater, the schools your kids attend, or the institutions you support as a fan, as well as your conference commissioners. The more letters they get pushing for a playoff, the more seriously they’ll take the subject.

    SEC fans want playoffs as much as any other fans do. The bowls, schools, and conferences just want to make as much money as possible. But there’s plenty of money to be made in playoffs, too–probably more than they’re making now.

  16. imaduffer says: Jan 11, 2012 1:20 AM

    And then they all agreed to go out and have steak, lobster and a cocktail. Cheers!!!

  17. barbeaux says: Jan 11, 2012 1:35 AM

    Yes, the SEC did present an idea of a+1. However, that’s a lame solution. Going with the arguably top four of over 100 schools doesn’t do enough. March Madness does it right as do the lower divisions of football. Also, don’t forget that the SEC objected to a rematch of Ohio State & Michigan that one year. That was just wrong…until it was a rematch of SEC members. There’s just too much money floating around for all of these people to do the right things.

  18. acieu says: Jan 11, 2012 5:08 AM

    Just declare the SEC Champ one of the automatic finalists and the second place SEC team the other finalist and the problem is solved. No need for extensive playoffs and then everyone else plays in the Petunia Bowl. Just move the SEC National Championship date too Jan 1 to keep the offenses from stagnating while they wait for the big date.

  19. lgwelsh1 says: Jan 11, 2012 6:03 AM

    The easiest way to do it is to have the top 15 and take 1 team from 16-25 drawn via a lottery system and have the winners of those games play in the Rose, Orange, Fiesta and Sugar Bowl(s).

    The 4 teams remaining get a random draw to see who plays whom.

    The winners play for the National Title.

    You could throw a twist in there, but a random draw would insure interesting games where teams who rarely or never have faced off could end up in the title game.

    You still have all your other bowl games, nothing changes, just the top teams and 1 lucky draw plays in the tournament.

  20. buckeye1nation says: Jan 11, 2012 9:12 AM

    A random draw could have the top 2 teams meeting in the first round. Where is the reward for a great regular season. 8 Team playoff of the 8 conference winners, (SEC, ACC, PAC 12, B1G, BIG 12, WAC Mountain West and Big East). Seed by record with tie breaker being win percentage of FBS teams they beat. Wins over FCS teams do not count for either the conf champ or in the Strength of Victory calculation but losses to FCS schools do count. (No reward for beating Ga Southern but you better not lose to them). This takes the polls completely out of it. They play it out just like a regular tournament. Cut the regular season to 11 games max. We can still keep the minor bowls for early playoff games and teams that do not qualify for the tournament. Semi finals could be the current BCS Bowl sights with Quarter Finals being played at mid level bowl sights that rotate every year, that way everyone gets a piece of the pie.

  21. LogicalConsideration says: Jan 11, 2012 10:02 AM

    sorry, buckeye1nation, but your proposal is INSANE. If it is only going to be 8 teams, then have ZERO automatic bids for conference champions. As has been demonstrated time and again in basketball (college and pro), MLB, and the NFL, there is nothing competitively or morally significant about winning your conference.

    Frankly, as a fan of both SEC and ACC schools, I can tell you that there is NO way that the SEC should, by rule, be limited to only 1 school in the final 8 teams. By the same token, I can tell you there is NO way the ACC merits being guaranteed a spot in the final 8 teams. Make all 8 spots at-large. That would allow for strong conferences like the SEC and the Big10 (and maybe the Big 12, but who knows what they are going to be like) to regularly get 2 teams in (not suggesting all three conferences would do these every year, just that in a given year, at least one probably would). They might even squeeze in 3 in one year (Arkansas would have claimed the 8th spot this year). At the same time it would allow the “minor” conferences a fair shot at getting in while leaving out undeserving “major” conferences. This year, Houston and Boise State would have been in, the Big East champion WVU would have been out (by a mile).

    If you want to guarantee conference champions a spot, you pretty much have to go to a 16 team playoff and have 8-10 automatic bids and 6-8 at large spots.

  22. axbake says: Jan 11, 2012 10:59 AM

    My proposal would be led by 3 principles.
    1. Conference championships do matter.
    2. Computers know more than humans.
    3. 8 teams is the max for a playoff.

    Using these principles I would propose the following system.
    1. The top four conferences are determined using a computer ranking system. The conference champions from those conferences then become automatic qualifiers in the playoff with automatic homefield advantage. (This year conference by computer rank alone would have been SEC, Big 12, Big 10, ACC in that order).
    2. At large bids are then determined by the BCS order. This allows humans access and by definition this becomes a subjective choice. Therefore the top four remaining teams are matched against the automatic qualifiers in reverse matched order. For example of the above automatic qualifiers Clemson would have been ranked 15th they would then play a home game against #2 Alabama, Wisconsin would have hosted Stanford, OK St. hosted Oregon St., and LSU hosted Boise St.
    3. Semi-finals held with traditional bowl games such as orange and fiesta.
    4. National champion ship at the Sugar.

    This takes away the concept of automatic bowl bids. It encourages conferences to look out for one another. It will encourage stronger non-conference games. The traditional bowls are maintained. It allows schools like Alabama in the playoff but punishes them by forcing them to play a play off games.

  23. coastalduck says: Jan 11, 2012 11:31 AM

    Without a further reduction in scholarships, the playoffs will be ceded to the good ol’ boys network.

    Oregon, Kansas St., Baylor, etc., would not be where they are if there were still 105 scholarships to give out, allowing the “powerhouses” to hoard talent.

    A playoff should be open to EVERY team in the BCS by virtue of more parity – otherwise it’s a total sham.

    If you disagree, why not just create a “superconference” where only the schools that have “tradition” get to play for the Natty?! At least that will avoid allowing Washington State or Vandy or Iowa St. to play for the Championship.

  24. olskool711 says: Jan 11, 2012 11:40 AM

    I used the term “personal business entities”

    What do you think?
    What do you believe?
    What are your thoughts about having personal business entities (which spend millions of dollars on lavish luxuries for themselves) having

    FULL TOTAL CONTROL OVER NCAA COLLEGE FOOTBALL? (fbs, division 1…)

  25. missyliles says: Jan 11, 2012 1:05 PM

    As an Alabama fan, I agree the game Monday night was far from the most exciting game i’ve ever watched. No doubt Oklahoma played an awesome season and I love to watch them play. However, despite their best efforts they still came up short where it counted. Yes, if LSU had played Oklahoma then might have actually “put a dent in the scoreboard” and Oklahoma might have put together some touchdowns of their own. But come on you guys, the whining and complaining because the game wasn’t a thriller and that Alabama didn’t deserve to be there is all starting to sound like high school politics (according to school policy, the principles son doesn’t have the grades to play this season so the principle changes the policy to his son’s advantage). The BCS standing are what they are, unwavering and unbias. These rating give EVERY team a chance to step up where they lag and make improvments. We don’t change the system, that has worked for many years, so that teams that need that didn’t rank as high as others have a better chance at the championship. We ask the teams to find the areas that need improvment and do something about it. If your quarterback can not get the ball to his receiver then you might want to pull him aside for some one on one or find another quarterback. That’s just one example. I see areas of improvment for ALL teams, rushing yards pre game, penalities, incomplete passes per game, turnovers per game, over-all poor defense and/or offense, and list goes on. That being said, Alabama, even after losing their own conference, still scored just under LSU. That says something about both teams and because of this they were lined up for the championship, fair and square.

  26. stairwayto7 says: Jan 11, 2012 2:32 PM

    Get rid of all conferances for football and have 4 divsions. East, South, Central and West. Top 16 16 in each division are put into 2 divisions so in south you woudl have, Bama Auburn, Florida, FSU, Miami, Clemson i.e.. then teams with bad records woudl ebrelegated into sub conferance so big boys wousl nto play Vandy, S.Florida, Miss st every week.

  27. dannygjay says: Jan 12, 2012 12:22 AM

    I say keep the system the same, except go bowl tie ins, play all the bowls. Then a selection committee wouild select 8 bowl winners to compete for the championship. I’m not sure where your from, but as the big 12 should no, as the old southwest conference Arkansas was a regular powerhouse, then they came to the SEC and couldn’t beat Vanderbuilt, ms state or kentucky. Just because they have losing records in SEC doesn’t make them bad teams

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