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Hoke on flipping prospects: ‘It’s recruiting. It’s competitive’

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As unbelievable as it may seem, Urban Meyer — or at least his “recruiting practices” — is getting a tiny bit of support from the coach of That School Up North.

Meyer has come under fire in recent days from coaches within his new conference over his “recruiting tactics”. Wisconsin’s Bret Bielema intimated on more than one occasion since signing day that the way Meyer goes about his recruiting business is illegal, and will have his boss discuss the issue with Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany. Michigan State’s Mark Dantonio has labeled the tactics the Ohio State head coach has brought to the conference “unethical”.

Michigan’s Brady Hoke? He’s good, thanks for asking.

Speaking in Columbus at a clinic for Ohio high school coaches, Hoke was asked about going after a recruit who has already verbally committed to another school and violating the “gentlemen’s agreement” that supposedly exists in the Big Ten, which appears to be from where most of the whining angst stems.

“Well, it’s competitive.  That’s what it is,” Hoke told Matt Barnes of NBC4 in Columbus when asked about the burgeoning recruiting controversy. “There’s no NCAA legislation about [recruiting a player committed to another school].  I think, at times, we’ve had guys who have left us late in the recruiting [process].  But, you know, it’s part of it.  For us, you want to do a great job of holding on to them and all those things.  It’s recruiting.  It’s competitive.”

Imagine that.  A coach realizing that he may have to actually do some work on the recruiting trail before and after he secures a verbal commitment. A coach realizing that, as long as it’s not illegal as Bielema has suggested — still awaiting a specific accusation instead of public generalities — it’s fair game.

Bravo, Coach Hoke.  Bravo.

As for Meyer, the OSU coach is not, as expected, very pleased with the accusations.  In fact, he vowed that the criticism will merely make him and his staff work that much harder on the recruiting front.

You’re pissed because we went after a committed guy?” Meyer asked rhetorically at the same Ohio high school coaches clinic Friday. “Guess what, we got nine guys [his coaching staff] who better go do it again. Do it a little harder next time.”

Consider the recruiting hornet’s nest stirred up, Big Ten coaches.  Congratulations, I guess.

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28 Responses to “Hoke on flipping prospects: ‘It’s recruiting. It’s competitive’”
  1. jaggedmark says: Feb 3, 2012 11:11 AM

    The University of Michigan and Brady Hoke are not concerned about Meyer and Ohio State because “it’s Michigan for God’s sake!”

  2. sparky151 says: Feb 3, 2012 11:19 AM

    Michigan’s star recruit Kyle Kalis was previously committed to Ohio State until Tressel was fired. What else is Hoke going to say when he flipped a high profile recruit before Meyer did?

  3. pdmjr says: Feb 3, 2012 11:26 AM

    In just a few short years the Big 10 will be just like the SEC. A league with few honorable men

  4. barnesaintnoble says: Feb 3, 2012 11:51 AM

    Within 3 years, Michigan-Ohio State will be back to being an annual top-5 showdown.

  5. burntorangehorn says: Feb 3, 2012 11:53 AM

    I could be wrong, but I’m guessing Bielema’s use of the word “illegal” stemmed from something other than breaking the gentlemen’s agreement to not recruit other Big Ten schools’ verbal commitments. As usual, there’s likely something behind the scenes. We might find out whether those coaches will circle the wagons and act like a cartel like the SEC coaches did once Slive got them all in line.

  6. thekatman says: Feb 3, 2012 11:53 AM

    Folks must remember this: Until the NCAA requires a kid to submit his LOI to the university he has verbally committed hinself to, recruiting is a “no holds” barred business. These kids change their mind more so than a 14 year old girl learning how to apply blue eye shadow without looking like a clown. It’s game on until signing day or before when a smart kid, who knows who he is and where he wants to go to school and play ball, submits his LOI early or enrolls early into school.

  7. kiopta1 says: Feb 3, 2012 11:57 AM

    Hoke is a class act….he may not like Meyer and his shenanigans but he won’t say anything unless it is blatant a$$hatery.

  8. BrownsTown says: Feb 3, 2012 12:43 PM

    As somebody said above, Hoke was painted into a corner since he had already done the same by “stealing” an OSU recruit. What else could he really say?

    P.S. Hoke is fat.

  9. dkhhuey says: Feb 3, 2012 12:53 PM

    To Flounder – excellent response!!! As a Buckeye, you are my sworn enemy and I despise every single hair on your head and every one who dons the ugly uniform. Having said that (as required by state law), the respect for the program and the rivalry is still quite high and your comments are spot on, especially considering that you flipped Kalis and was after Dunn like he was a doughnut topped pizza. I love the fact that it is going to be game f@#%ing on between Flounder and Urban year round with recruiting, the Big Ten Title, and The Game!!! BRING IT FAT BOY!!!

    Go Buckeyes!!!

    It is 10:53 am in Arizona and Michigan still sucks!

  10. dietrich43 says: Feb 3, 2012 1:19 PM

    Wait – 17 and 18 year old boys don’t always honor their word? I’m shocked! Shocked I say!

  11. goblue714 says: Feb 3, 2012 1:23 PM


    We didn’t flip kalis, he decommited on his own based on sanctions. Obviously Michigan was his 2nd choice after tressel, but we’ll take him for sure. My wolverines and buckeyes compete in everything and all is fair in a border war. Oh yeah instate war as well.

  12. takingbovadasmoney says: Feb 3, 2012 1:37 PM

    Big boned Brady (not fat, ask Cartman) was smart on this one. Wash your hands of Dantonio and Bielama and let the two teams that played in last years Big Ten championship game fight it out in public with your chief rival. He can sit back snd look like the Big Boned good guy while MSU and Wisconsin look petty, and OSU has the hint of recruiting violations being leveled at them.

  13. goblue714 says: Feb 3, 2012 2:52 PM

    BTW hoke is not weiss fat, he was a lineman of course he’s big….but not fat.

  14. dkhhuey says: Feb 3, 2012 3:02 PM

    HA – thanks for the laughs guys!!! Big boned, not Weis fat AND a Cartman reference! Sweeeeet!

  15. polegojim says: Feb 3, 2012 3:23 PM

    @dk – Bring it? He already brought it! Did you miss it? Wait…. you’ll get to see it again in November! Watch closely. ; )

    Michigan has ALWAYS recruited heavily in such manner. It’s not even remotely an ‘I got caught’ situation. Hoke is following an appropriate tradition.

    I look forward to plucking even more commits from those who don’t have the skill or compelling force to hold on to them.

  16. dalep526 says: Feb 3, 2012 4:11 PM

    All this talk just heats up the conference competition. I don’t hear Bo Pelini crying about anything. Belemia and Donut-onio need to “Man Up” and stop acting like little kids crying to Momma. “I’m telling Delaney you’re being mean to me and you better stop it” Even Alvarez keeps his “man card” and didn’t back up Belemia with his whining. He’s embarrassing! Just like he embarrassed Ron Zook and Illinois by racking up83 points against them. Gentlemen’s agreement? Don’t make me laugh. Belemia can dish it out, but can’t take it. Ask Minnesota how they felt when Wisconsin went for 3 when they were up by 3 TDs.
    Douche bag Belemia and Donut-onio.

  17. dkhhuey says: Feb 3, 2012 4:11 PM

    @pole – last season never happened – it has been surgically removed from our brains! I’m guessing you won so congrats!!! I was referring to this year’s addition of The Game pitting Urban vs. Hoke!

  18. smithstoh says: Feb 3, 2012 4:17 PM

    All I know is that on the Big Show (Radio) today here in Columbus they were interviewing Brian Rolle (former OSU linebacker) and he said that he was contacted by Wisconsin (including Belemia) via phone calls and text all the way up until NSD long after he had committed verbally to OSU. What a short memory Belemia has.

  19. polegojim says: Feb 3, 2012 6:06 PM

    @dk – HAHA – C’MON MAN!!!
    That only flies if we can discount all three RichRod years! Funny how you Bucknut fans celebrate wins but offer excuses for losses. It is what it is!

    Plus – It’s not like we ‘reloaded’. Hoke was playing almost completely with RR’s players…. except Hoke and staff got the BEST out of them.

    I do agree, both sides are poised for some good battles and Championships. I can’t wait to celebrate all the years you finish… second. ; )

    GO BLUE!

  20. hovenaut says: Feb 3, 2012 7:52 PM

    I have a feeling this might be Jo, er Hoke’s last visit to Columbus where he leaves feeling good about things. For a while. Thanks for stopping by.

  21. dkhhuey says: Feb 3, 2012 8:34 PM

    @pole – I didn’t make an excuse – just said it was wiped out from my brain!!!

    Okay, fair enough, since you had to swallow the RichRod years, I guess I can handle the lost year!!! It is a very small price to pay for how it ended!

    Now – its on!!!

  22. linedrivehit says: Feb 3, 2012 10:06 PM

    pdmjr says: “In just a few short years the Big 10 will be just like the SEC. A league with few honorable men”

    hey pdmjr, you mean like the liar Tressel, the child molestor Sandusky, and the cover up by Joe Paterno. Yeah I can see where you are coming from about all that class from the Big 10… /rolleyes

  23. polegojim says: Feb 3, 2012 10:33 PM

    @hovenat – if you’re going to be insulting, at least be coherent…

    Keep counting them eggs…

  24. polegojim says: Feb 3, 2012 10:33 PM

    @dk – I guess that’s my point… it’s NEVER been off.

  25. dkhhuey says: Feb 3, 2012 11:07 PM

    Agreed – but now it has been heated up quite a bit!!!

  26. shaqfu77 says: Feb 4, 2012 3:11 PM

    Muck fichigan

  27. jaj1buckeye says: Feb 6, 2012 3:50 PM

    Kyle Kalis, the bucks grabbed Armani Reeves to counter. I don’t see what all the fuss is about. Every good player “Charles Woodson, Desmond Howard, etc.”, are Ohio guys anyway. These other B10 schools should be paying OSU for all the talent that’s been plucked from “the heart of it all”. Its not just Mich, “Curtis Enis”. Be thankful Wisc we don’t put up 80 pts on you over the next few years.

  28. goblue714 says: Feb 6, 2012 8:31 PM


    Braylon edward(detroit), brandon grahm(detroit), lamar woodly(saginaw), reid fragel(grosse pte, mi), vernon gholston(detroit), craig krenzel(utica, mi), ryan miller(allen park, mi), tom brady(california), denard(florida), anthony thomas(louisiana), chad henne and steve breaston(pennsylvania)… point is kids come from all over the place, all the kids on osu arent from ohio. Normally each college gets 25 scholarships a year and their hundreds of kids to choose from. So numbers are limited.

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