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Three starters among TCU players arrested in major drug sweep

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UPDATED 1:32 p.m. ET: Tanner Brock was arrested on three felony charges relating to the drug sting. Click HERE for the details contained in Brock’s arrest warrant.

Perhaps the most disturbing/damning detail contained in the warrant?  Brock told an informant that it was likely only about 20 players on TCU’s roster would pass a drug test.

So, yes, there’s likely still a lot of road left to travel on this story, with the speculation being that further arrests/dismissals/suspensions could be in the offing.

UPDATED 12:22 p.m. ET: The names of the four TCU football players arrested in a drug sweep Wednesday have been released by police officials.

Linebacker Tanner Brock, offensive lineman Ty Horn, defensive back Devin Johnson and defensive lineman D.J. Yendrey were all named as individuals who will now be facing charges stemming from the six-month investigation.  The names of all four players have been removed from the roster on the team’s official website.

Brock is by far the most well-known name, having led the Horned Frogs in tackles during the 2010 season.  He suffered an ankle injury in the 2011 opener and missed the remainder of the year.

Yendrey started the first 10 games last season, while Johnson started the final eight.

All three were expected to be starters in 2012.  While it’s not yet official, it’s believed all three, plus Horn, have been dismissed from the football program.

Head coach Gary Patterson did release a statement, though.  Here it is, in its entirety:

“There are days people want to be a head football coach, but today is not one of those days. As I heard the news this morning, I was first shocked, then hurt and now I’m mad.

“Under my watch, drugs and drug use by TCU’s student-athletes will not be tolerated by me or any member of my coaching staff. Period. Our program is respected nationally for its strong ethics and for that reason the players arrested today were separated from TCU by the University. I believe strongly that young people’s lives are more important than wins or losses.

“This situation isn’t unique to TCU—it is a global issue that we all have to address. This isn’t just about bad decisions made by a small percentage of my team. It is about a bigger issue across this country and world.

“As a coach, I do the best I can to educate members of my team. We have programs in place that teach student-athletes about what they should and shouldn’t do and how to be successful in life. I talk to them about how to be students and upstanding men that uphold the TCU name and its traditions.

“At the end of the day, though, sometimes young people make poor choices. The Horned Frogs are bigger and stronger than those involved.”


With its spring practice set to start in exactly 10 days, TCU has a very serious and potentially crippling situation on its hands.

Wednesday morning, TCU chancellor Victor J. Boschini Jr. confirmed that “many current students” were arrested earlier in the day in what was described as a major on-campus drug sweep.  At a press conference which concluded just a short time ago, it was announced that 17 students were arrested, including four unnamed football players.  The charges will stem from the individuals allegedly selling cocaine, ecstasy, marijuana and prescription medication.

The sweep was part of what’s been a six-month investigation by the Fort Worth Police Department and TCU Campus Police.

“TCU has never before experienced a magnitude of student arrests such as this,” Boschini said in a statement posted on the school’s website prior to the press conference. “In fact, Campus Police records show only five student arrests related to drug law violations in recent years.”

The identities of the players will be released later in the day, although if one rumored name proves true, it would be a significant blow to the Horned Frogs as they prepare for their first season in the Big 12.  The investigation is still ongoing, and police officials stated they are still trying to determine whether the four players were selling drugs to their teammates.

“We were not targeting students, fraternities or football players. We were targeting drug dealers,” Capt. Ken Dean said at the press conference.

Head coach Gary Patterson has yet to comment on the developing situation.

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79 Responses to “Three starters among TCU players arrested in major drug sweep”
  1. woebegong says: Feb 15, 2012 11:19 AM

    Gosh, they just wanted a little spending money, since their scholarships at present don’t pay for any extra cash in the players pocket. I wonder if anybody really believes the proposed 2 grand a year for football players would have stopped crap like this. What a shame that those players may have thrown their lives away or at least their college life away, for the few extra bucks they probably received, when compared to what they could have earned in life. What a shame, they didn’t use their heads.

  2. stuartscottsgooglyeye says: Feb 15, 2012 11:27 AM

    Little Sisters of the Poor will not be happy about this. I think a billboard is in order.

  3. overratedgators says: Feb 15, 2012 11:27 AM

    Little Sisters of the Po-Po.

  4. John Taylor says: Feb 15, 2012 11:32 AM

    “Little Sisters of the Po-Po.”

    Your genius knows no bounds, does it?

  5. burntorangehorn says: Feb 15, 2012 11:34 AM

    The Race for the Fulmer Cup is underway.

  6. dee6634 says: Feb 15, 2012 12:22 PM

    Wasn’t there a story about TCU and recruiting visits that dealt with drugs i nthe last couple of months?

  7. lemmam says: Feb 15, 2012 12:36 PM

    the NCAA needs to investigate. Perhaps they were selling drugs for tatoos

  8. mrslay1 says: Feb 15, 2012 12:50 PM

    What a shame for TCU. Just a Razorback here who has always respected TCU. I have friends that attended there and it is a well respected school. Just goes to show that no one is exempt from this kind of thing. These kids have destroyed much of what their future could have been. Hope they learn from it moving on. Good luck coach Patterson, you will always be known as a quaility coach and man!

  9. kcrobert10 says: Feb 15, 2012 1:10 PM

    Boy the step into the big 12 was going to be hard enough with out all this. Good luck guys hope this doesn’t set u back on the field in what will be an important yr for ur university.

  10. burntorangehorn says: Feb 15, 2012 1:17 PM

    Oh…my…goodness. People, if you read nothing else about this bust, read item 11 on page 12 of this pdf of the arrest warrants:

    1. Brock, talking to presumably an undercover guy acting as a customer about a drug test, said: “Ya, they caught us slipping,” and “I failed that bitch for sure.”

    2. Explicit descriptions of Brock providing bagged drugs for money.

    3. Brock says that Ty Horn looked down the roster, and said only that about 20 people on it would pass a drug test.

    4. Brock says that about 60 people were going to get screwed by the drug test, so it wouldn’t be a big deal.

    Ladies and gentlemen, we have Fulmergeddon.

  11. lemmam says: Feb 15, 2012 1:18 PM

    it’s not TCU’s fault it’s the fault of our society and the kids that were dealing

  12. whyalwaysthehate says: Feb 15, 2012 1:24 PM

    Good for Patterson. I am now a fan.

  13. jimmy53 says: Feb 15, 2012 1:35 PM

    Good for Patterson? It’s too little too late. There is no way players passed their drug tests with this type of drug related activity going on. Now, he may not have known about it, but the quotes from Horn and Brock on the arrest report point to a cover-up somewhere along the line. That’s going to have to be looked at, and the man in charge has to take responsibility.

  14. myownwerstenmy says: Feb 15, 2012 1:40 PM

    Hasn’t been that many cops on a Texas campus since Aug ’66.

  15. mrslay1 says: Feb 15, 2012 1:47 PM

    It’s a little early to start blaming Patterson don’t you think?

  16. axltcu says: Feb 15, 2012 2:18 PM

    Where were all these drugs when I went to TCU? Could have partied so much harder.

  17. thefiesty1 says: Feb 15, 2012 2:31 PM

    Good grief! This is not good for TCU and their entrance into the Big 12. What is wrong with these kids? Are the really that stupid? Doesn’t sound like the kind of kids that Patterson would recruit in the first place.

  18. burntorangehorn says: Feb 15, 2012 2:42 PM

    jimmy53 says:
    Feb 15, 2012 1:35 PM
    Good for Patterson? It’s too little too late. There is no way players passed their drug tests with this type of drug related activity going on. Now, he may not have known about it, but the quotes from Horn and Brock on the arrest report point to a cover-up somewhere along the line. That’s going to have to be looked at, and the man in charge has to take responsibility.
    Why a cover-up? There are turnaround time and validation on mass drug tests. It’s not quite like checking pH in your hot tub.

  19. whyalwaysthehate says: Feb 15, 2012 4:12 PM

    I don’t think Patterson or any coach can be held responsible for monitoring players behavior off field. I understand the “on his watch” argument, but don’t buy it for any size program. Players cannot be controlled by a program, they must abide by rule or laws, both of the program and our legal system. Gouge an eye and take a seat. (sorry Spikes). But, all Patterson or any program coach can do outside coaching the sport, I believe, is advise and punish, which Patterson has done swiftly and to his credit. It’s school culture, parents, and the students or others they hang out with that influence these young guys, but it’s the player’s personal responsibility, period. Young, immature or not, now they need to accept the school, program, and legal punishment society warrants. They chose college and TCU.

  20. gorilladunk says: Feb 15, 2012 4:48 PM

    I’ll say this for TCU…they immediately expelled the 17 arrested today from the school. None will be allowed to return. None of this…”we’ll let the legal system run its course”. If for no other reason than that, the administration at the school deserves a huge attaboy. It’s amazing how kids will allow their lives to suffer because of one poor decision. I guess my mom was right…”too soon old, too late smart.”

  21. pricecube says: Feb 15, 2012 4:53 PM

    Joining the Big 12 and playing Ok St., OU, UT, Baylor, WVU, Texas Tech and Kansas St. was challenge enough without this. I hope these kids can straighten their lives out… but like Patterson… the more I think about it the more I feel angry. How stupid!!… at least the administration and campus police cooperated with the FWPD.

  22. thraiderskin says: Feb 15, 2012 5:27 PM

    Where are all the “death penalty” geniuses on this one?

  23. jimmy53 says: Feb 15, 2012 6:11 PM

    burntorangehorn says:

    Why a cover-up? There are turnaround time and validation on mass drug tests. It’s not quite like checking pH in your hot tub.
    ————————————————————apparently you’ve never taken a drug test for a job. The results are usually returned within a week (depending on whether it’s blood, urine, or hair sample), which means someone would have had to have seen the failed tests. So, unless they were smart enough to only take drugs during the off-season, which while unlikely is possible, someone would have had to have seen mass failures. That’s why a cover-up. It’s not exactly a leap burtonorange (see: affidavit quotes)

  24. mrslay1 says: Feb 15, 2012 6:32 PM

    Has anyone here actually read these articals? Nobody was caught USING DRUGS, they were caught SELLING DRUGS. The fact is that nothing is being reported about failing drug tests as it has not been part of this. It may in time but lets not get the cart before the horse!

  25. mogogo1 says: Feb 15, 2012 6:52 PM

    lemmam says:

    it’s not TCU’s fault it’s the fault of our society and the kids that were dealing

    But the NCAA won’t end up taking scholarships away from “society.”

    And if it were your kid picking a college you wouldn’t think twice about sending him to a school that was just busted in a major drug sting?

  26. mrslay1 says: Feb 15, 2012 7:41 PM

    To restate my previous post…They were arested for SELLING drugs, not TAKING drugs. That is a BIG difference!

  27. muhangis says: Feb 15, 2012 10:31 PM

    Just legalize drugs. Problem solved. The ppl who want to take them take them, the ppl who don’t – don’t. Where’s the detriment? People should be able to decide what goes into our bodies and what doesn’t, the decision should not belong to the government? Since when does the government own my body? They can’t tell me not to put something in my body, that I want in there. Doesn’t matter that someone else disagrees with it.

    If I want to expand my mind, responsibly, that should be my freedom as well. If it makes me enjoy my life, than so be it. Everybody should have that right! It’s not your life, it’s mine. For what reason is alcohol the only exception? Why is alcohol any different? Alcohol is the biggest mindfu** there is! It kills more than any other substance. It’s a silly world.

  28. mrslay1 says: Feb 15, 2012 10:52 PM

    You must be a kid or a 60’s child. The law is still the law. Deal with it!

  29. woebegong says: Feb 15, 2012 10:52 PM

    It’s not just about the people that take drugs. What about Cartels, like the ones in Mexico fighting each other, and innocent people in a village getting killed because their town happens to be the place where on of the cartels resides. What about people that take drugs, are homeless, and cost society money, to pay for their medical care, and their destitute problems. It is not about free choice. If it were there would not be countless deaths from it. Addiction is a horrible thing and eventually destroys a persons will to live and certainly cuts down on their ability to function in society.
    Free will is an honorable concept, but without some controls, it isn’t much use in society, and a country without laws and a way to control some bad things, would never survive. I saw a bunch of young kids come back from Viet Nam, hooked on crap, and a lot of them eventually wasted their life today. They were never able to fit back into society again, and a lot have died from diseases and not having a place to call home, and proper diets.
    Alcohol is still a strong part of society, simply because of all the tax money that is collected from it’s ale and manufacturing. They, as an industry also sponsor a lot of sports activities and have a strong lobbying groups. Do you think, all of the manufacturers of illicit drugs will pay taxes, and just co-exist peacefully in the world.
    Having the freedom to take illegal drugs, is not a responsibility or a right to exercise your freedom in a country. Ask yourself, if you were in a critical line of work, say as a commercial pilot, soldier or policeman, would you want to be high or mellow as some say, and have other peoples lives depend on your decisions? Would you want to depend on that person to have your back in a war zone condition?
    Your rationale and view points really stretch the imagination.

  30. mrslay1 says: Feb 15, 2012 11:03 PM

    Excellent post…Thanks for taking the time to put into words what most people know. It’s sad that some will never understand.

  31. gmsalpha says: Feb 15, 2012 11:04 PM

    Good one, Texas Christian. Very….err…Christian of you.

  32. pedagoguish says: Feb 15, 2012 11:07 PM

    What is this, some new sacrament among the Disciples of Christ?

  33. kibbee2545 says: Feb 15, 2012 11:20 PM

    I thought only Ohio State did that, they must have talked to Maurice Clarret

  34. kibbee2545 says: Feb 15, 2012 11:24 PM

    they learned from Ohio State

  35. muhangis says: Feb 16, 2012 1:08 AM

    Neither of the above, Slay. And you make some valid points Woebegong, I’m not gonna sit here and say you’re wrong, I think we both try to come from a practical standpoint. Yet you are breaking out some extremes to validate yourself, for example policemen and airline pilots are high safety hazard jobs where other ppl’s lives depend, obviously they’re still gonna be expected live up to their job standards. They’ll still be monitored just like they are breathalized. But these are exclusive extremes. And nobody should go high on the job period, I’m talking about what one does in their home in their free time. Why should ppl go to jail over that? And that’s a MAJOR reason why individuals end up homeless or in a bad situation, because the law has decided to punish them harshly for no good reason (over a VICTIM-LESS CRIME.) They go to jail, lose their funds, lose their job, maybe their home, get a criminal record, now nobody wants to hire him or her for a job, so they end up on the street. It’s just society punishing them for nothing, and then they are stuck in a hole they cannot get out from.

    On other hand, Mr. Slay doesn’t understand that it’s an everchanging society. Hopefully progressing and evolving, rather than degressing and devolving (dim hope.) I’m sure if we were living in Nazi times in Germany, Mr. Slay would agree with it. Hey, it’s the law right?! If it were the mid-1700’s, Washington would be some crazy antagonistic member of society, against the British. That was going against the law then and it finally took somebody with common sense to help force the necessary change. Some unfortunately don’t have the ability to think on his own (Slay), and must have somebody else do it for them.

  36. muhangis says: Feb 16, 2012 1:09 AM

    The cartels live and survive off of ILLEGAL drugs. !!!

  37. muhangis says: Feb 16, 2012 1:10 AM

    The cartels operate, live, and survive off of ILLEGAL drugs. !!!

  38. woebegong says: Feb 16, 2012 1:16 AM

    It is only a victimless crime if you are not a victim. Ask those 5000 + people in Mexico and countless others in Central America how victimless it is. Drug sales also fund terrorist and guerrilla warfare, designed to over throw small governments.
    I don’t believe that allowing more freedom of drugs on the streets is a sign that society is progressing.

  39. muhangis says: Feb 16, 2012 1:18 AM

    And the war veterans from Vietnam were desolated and destroyed way before by all bloodshed, murder, and killings they saw. And perhaps had to commit on their own. The drugs are just an aftermath, and a drop in the bucket.

    The fact that alcoholic beverage companies have strong lobbying groups should have absolutely no meaning in making it more right. There are lobbying groups for everything (look at the numerous big lobby organizations pro-marijuana) only some are listened to and some are not.

  40. woebegong says: Feb 16, 2012 1:21 AM

    Just because a cartel lives and survive off of drugs, doesn’t in any shape or form justify having them. Terrorist live and survive and their illegal activities are carried out in the United States, partially from the sale of Poppies (opium) in Afghanistan. Should they therefore be called OK guys that do not harm anybody and live and accomplish things with the money they get from the sale of those drugs?

  41. muhangis says: Feb 16, 2012 1:25 AM

    Again those 5000+ people in Mexico in Central America are victims of a drug cartel which operate and thrive off the substances being ILLEGAL, not the substances in itself. Many of them probably never even seen or done them.

    Just like private drug dealers would not have a business to operate if drugs aren’t illegal, same as with the cartels. I live in CA, where you see absolutely ZERO marijuana dealers; I moved from Virginia, where they were everywhere. Why? Because of a legal industry (medical) that supports and regulates it.

  42. muhangis says: Feb 16, 2012 1:27 AM

    Where in the hell did I try to justify the crimes committed by the drug cartels??? Jesus. Please point that out.

  43. muhangis says: Feb 16, 2012 1:29 AM

    Just like during alcohol prohibition gang mobs and the mafia survived (i.e. Capone). Where are they now? …. hmm

  44. woebegong says: Feb 16, 2012 1:31 AM

    Speaking as one of those Viet Nam veterans, and a lifer in the military, I can assure you if the drugs had not been so readily available, that would not have been the case. You can chose to live the war over and over again, and not seek some help if you are suffering from PDS or you can do something about it. I went over there a 19 year old kid and left a 21 year old man, but I decided that I had things to do in life, and I did those things. You chose the path you take in life, and if you want an easy way out, then drugs offer that chance. There is a song from way back when called the “EVE OF DESTRUCTION”. One line in that songs pretty much sums it up. “When you come back down, it’s the same old world”. The euphoria you get from drugs is very temporary. Who pays for these expensive drugs, for the addicted person, who has become so hung up, he can’t hold down a job? What if his addiction, drives him to drastic measure like armed robbery and some innocent civilian gets killed. Was it the free choice of the victim to die then?

  45. woebegong says: Feb 16, 2012 1:34 AM

    And they survived how? By selling illegal booze and book making, interstate trafficking of drugs and booze. What is the point in that argument? Because criminals survive makes it somehow justification to do drugs and even become an alcoholic or something?

  46. muhangis says: Feb 16, 2012 1:36 AM

    Like you mentioned in your post, everything is about money on this earth. It decides right and wrong too often. [& Who goes to jail, who doesn’t go to jail?; what is allowed, what isn’t allowed?; what’s legal, what’s not legal?; what law is passed, what law isn’t passed?; who’s good, who’s bad?, who survives, who dies?…… comes down to $$$$$]

    Your a puppet Woebe, all it is.

  47. muhangis says: Feb 16, 2012 1:41 AM

    You logic is backwards Woebe, I can’t even make sense out of your last post. I’m speaking the exact opposite, that because criminals survive makes it UNJUSTIFIABLE to criminalize drugs. The point is to get rid of them.

  48. muhangis says: Feb 16, 2012 1:42 AM

    …… meaning the cartels, gang members, and criminals.

  49. woebegong says: Feb 16, 2012 1:47 AM

    Exactly the point I am making. You are trying to support medicinal use of a controlled substance and compare it to the illicit sale of drugs off the street. Morphine is an opiate also, but it legal use has saved countless people unnecessary pain. Would you support making all opiates legal then? You are getting way off topic.
    You stated that it was an infringement on your individual rights and trying to justify the deaths of innocent people because the Cartels thrive in the business, doesn’t justify those folks dying. Narrowing it down to just weed, doesn’t justify all of the other drugs that are illegal and destroy peoples lives. Take sometime yo go and read up on a history book or two and then see if you can ever find a society, modern or ancient that has survived without some sort of restrictions and rules based on laws that they have made. Trying to justify your right to do drugs by saying it is my human right, is almost like saying, regardless of how many other people who are killed, maimed or a slave to their addiction.
    I don’t know your age, but at 63, and having been around the world twice, I think it is safe to say, I have seen a lot of crap involving drugs and to some extent Alcohol and I know the affect it has on human lives. Your freedom to have these human rights as you say, doesn’t justify innocent people losing lives to justify the cartels, having the right to make a living.

  50. muhangis says: Feb 16, 2012 1:50 AM

    The great majority of recreational users are able to hold down a job or career, and in fact be very good at it. You’re narrowly looking at the whopping 1 out of 50 who isn’t. Don’t just pay attention to the extreme negative examples, look at it as a whole. Something you are too ignorant to do. You only know how to use extreme cases to make your point. Sorry but one smoking a joint in his or her home does not drive them to commit armed robbery! You are too busy listening to fairy tales.

    However, the one who drinks too much at a bar has been known to kill an entire family on his way home…. on occasion. You want to use such examples, huh? Well those examples are way much more prevalent with alcohol. Oh yeah but alcohol makes sports teams and corporations money, that’s right!

    turd I’m done talking to you.

  51. muhangis says: Feb 16, 2012 1:51 AM

    I’m not trying to justify any person dying. You are.

  52. woebegong says: Feb 16, 2012 1:52 AM

    Exactly how old are you anyway? You don’t even know what you are saying and I am sure you have hardly started out in life yet. Someday your thinking will mature, hopefully at least, but until then, you need to think more before you say things or in this case, type them, and you have much maturity to gain in life. I am done trying to explain things to you, because I am speaking from experiences in life, and you are speaking from your opinions, without regard to a sound thought process.

  53. muhangis says: Feb 16, 2012 1:54 AM

    I’m not trying to justify any cartels right to make a living. If you weren’t such an imbecile, my words are the exact damn opposite, to GET FUCKING RID OF THEM!!! goodness gracious.

    Can’t argue sense into an idiot.

  54. muhangis says: Feb 16, 2012 1:56 AM

    What does my age have to do with a damn thing? Does my right or wrong depend on my age? Does you being 61 make you completely right?

    Far as I’m aware there are many 61 year olds on this planet, many of whom would disagree with you.

  55. woebegong says: Feb 16, 2012 1:57 AM

    One less comment. By the way, resorting to childish insults tells me all I need to know about you. Your 1 out of 50 abusing drugs makes 600,000 addicted folks in the USA. If you were old enough to have a job and pay taxes, that might mean something to you. At u\your age, mommy and daddy are paying your way.

  56. muhangis says: Feb 16, 2012 1:58 AM

    Just like there are many of my age who would disagree with me, but I am not telling you my age because you are under the very narrow and false notion that one’s age makes them completely wrong or right. Show’s what you know, Mr. 61 year old.

  57. muhangis says: Feb 16, 2012 2:03 AM

    For your information I am a college graduate, law school educated, never once been in drug-rehab or homeless or in some sort of rehabilitation program, published writer, realty property owner, of an individual. I’d hate to brag on anything else, but I could. Get rid of your short-sighted naive presumptions, wise man.

  58. muhangis says: Feb 16, 2012 2:07 AM

    And spend more time getting to know different people with different customs, cultures, and backgrounds. Spend more time living on this earth.

    Oh yeah, I’ve also traveled in at least twenty states and ten different countries. I’ve lived, traveled, and experienced this world with acceptance of people and an open mind. Have you?

  59. muhangis says: Feb 16, 2012 2:36 AM

    And in case your still reading I grew up in a southern conservative section of America, do speak four different languages (fluent in 3, half-fluent in Arabic), am a college double major w/ a minor, my mother works for the DEA, and my father for the U.S. Marshalls in Washington D.C. Any more dumb credentials you need, or was age the only one you are lookin for? Guess you have chosen to be silent at this point, Woebe.

  60. muhangis says: Feb 16, 2012 2:55 AM

    Too many flaws in your logic son. 1 out of 50 = “600,000 drug addicts” out of 300+ million members in our country. So you say all 300+ million of our population are drug addicts? Think about it.

    With that kind of severely heavy flaw in your logic, I wouldn’t brag about being 61.

    And our unemployment nationwide is 11% alone (1 out of 9), drug users and non-drug users. So relatively speaking, I guess 1 out of 50 users being an addict is quite damn good.

    However 1 out of 50 was a very rough quick inacurate estimate by me. Don’t quote me reciting scientific data.

  61. trevor123698 says: Feb 16, 2012 4:23 AM

    Possession of anything is not a crime unless if you stole that item

  62. jdesan says: Feb 16, 2012 4:53 AM

    Now THIS is something that warrants firing the Coach, suspending players, Bowl bans, etc etc.

    But that all happened to OSU because a few players traded personal items for tattoos.

    What a joke the NCAA is.

  63. mrslay1 says: Feb 16, 2012 8:48 AM

    That is a lie unless you define drug dealers different than someone selling drugs (MJ) to someone else without gov. approvel, that would be a license. I know 2 people that have told me their children grow pot legally but still sell it to people that don’t have the medical script to buy over the counter. That is still being a dealer!… And thats your wonderful progressive state that is bankrupted for it’s wonderful ideas.

  64. mrslay1 says: Feb 16, 2012 9:09 AM

    Nice when liers like you can hide behind a computer screen and make up resume that looks good to you. You are just a little punk who wants to be heard and nothing to say. These posts were designed to talk about college football and most people come here to support their team and talk smack about others. That is what fans do for FUN! To bad regardless of your age you do not have the ability or maturity to understand that. I suppose now your going to tell us your a republican:-)

  65. woebegong says: Feb 16, 2012 9:22 AM

    I read a article a couple of months ago that was suppose to show why the NCAA penalties differ so much from school to school, and even offense to offense. It basically said, that they assign a head investigator to lead his team, once they start investigating a particular school, and he is the one that recommends the punishment handed down for the offenses. The NCAA supposedly,because they are so busy, usually upholds the guys recommendation and that is why there is so much disparity. The NCAA said it would not be practical to make a standard penalty for the offenses that would apply, since some schools have been in hot water more than others and you have to take that into account.
    They justified that reasoning as the reason that Georgia Tech. was treated so harshly when they last got into trouble and the offenses over all were pretty minor. They had been on probation prior to that just a few years before for another rules violation.
    That all sounds good in principle as long as you are not the school getting hit. I would think that they could still standardize the penalties handed down, even for repeat offenders by the having a tier system of penalties depending on for instance, how many times previous and such.

  66. htimsr40 says: Feb 16, 2012 9:36 AM

    Illegal drugs are common all throughout society. If one were to test, one would find many users where I work (white collar professionals). One would find many users at NBC and NBC Sports and ESPN. Every field has its drug users – politics, business, social services, the media, religious institutions … and, yes, sports … both professional and amateur. It would be more of a story if a university were investigated and they did NOT find broad use of illegal drugs.

  67. mericagodgunstitties says: Feb 16, 2012 11:49 AM


  68. pricecube says: Feb 16, 2012 12:01 PM

    Just for the record I do think this is getting huge press because of its connection to a successful football program. It is not the biggest drug bust of all time… nor is it even something uncommon on college campuses. I do not remember this incident at SDSU getting anywhere near this kind of press coverage:

    75 students arrested in a similar drug sting. That is about four times as many.

    I am not trying to make excuses. I just want to point out that drugs are prevalent on almost all college campuses, especially schools that cater to a large number of children of privilege. TCU is now over 40k a yr… It was one of the cheapest private colleges in the country when I attended… but that is no longer true. Hope these kids can get their lives back on track… Tanner Brock could have been in the NFL next year and instead it sounds like he will be in the clink. What a shame!

  69. pricecube says: Feb 16, 2012 1:12 PM

    FWIW they are now saying it was 15 students… not 17.

  70. muhangis says: Feb 16, 2012 3:39 PM

    I agree with your second to last post, but not a single lie I mentioned there, Mr. Slay. I had no care to spill it out until Woebe started grilling me about myself. And you were under some notion that I was a child or a 60’s hippie. But yes I am an ’06 graduate of VCU with a B.A. in English, I speak fluent French, Bengali, & English, 1/2 fluent in Arabic, read about 200 books in my lifetime, and my parents do work those jobs I mentioned. And hell no I am not a Republican. First thing I hate is being grilled on my life or what I do, and then when I finally decide to mention it, you cowards want to call me a liar! You two can blow out all the muddy filth out of your brains.

    Woebe started bragging about being a former Vietnam vet, being 63, etc. etc. Anyhow, both of your very narrowly constricted minds are under notion that only homeless ppl or folks on welfare do drugs. Nowhere close, illegal drugs are way too prevalent across society. You haven’t heard of the many business CEO’s that snort cocaine, famous musicians hooked on stuff, all these athletes in basketball and fooball smoking or dropping pills, corporate workers passing ecstacy amongst themselves, even at Harvard marijuana is prevalent. Both of you need to open up your eyes. I don’t think either of you spent very long actually living, sounds strongly like you two have lived under a rock all your life.

    The fact is THCU, I mean TCU sry, has this kind of history, maybe they should be called the Stoned Frogs instead, and the coaches decided to turn their heads and act like it was not going on. As long as they were getting it done on the football field they could’ve care less. And they were — top 15 in the country in final polls the last 3 years, w/ an undefeated 13-0 and winning the Rose Bowl two years ago.

    Not bad for a Christian school.

  71. muhangis says: Feb 16, 2012 4:12 PM

    Read the comments here to get a grasp of what Americans think about drug laws now:

  72. mrslay1 says: Feb 16, 2012 5:03 PM

    After your last few posts nobody will believe anything you say little man. You are a phony want to be. Write what you want but no one will read it:-) Good by

  73. muhangis says: Feb 16, 2012 5:46 PM

    The only one who doesn’t believe me is you, so speak for yourself you ignorant fool. You wanna call me a liar then prove it. Otherwise your just a fool.

    You’ve read everything I’ve written thus far. And you’ve read this paragraph as well. You sir are an utmost imbecile. All your comments have the most thumbs downs. Your simply ashamed in realizing a fool is what you have been all your life. Now go away you lame dork! Nobody wants you here.

  74. muhangis says: Feb 16, 2012 5:48 PM

    And I could care less that you don’t believe me. Just shows what a foolish and ignorant man you are.

  75. woebegong says: Feb 16, 2012 6:05 PM

    muhangis says: Feb 16, 2012 2:03 AM

    For your information I am a college graduate, law school educated, never once been in drug-rehab or homeless or in some sort of rehabilitation program, published writer, realty property owner, of an individual. I’d hate to brag on anything else, but I could. Get rid of your short-sighted naive presumptions, wise man.

    muhangis says: Feb 16, 2012 3:39 PM

    I agree with your second to last post, but not a single lie I mentioned there, Mr. Slay. I had no care to spill it out until Woebe started grilling me about myself. And you were under some notion that I was a child or a 60′s hippie. But yes I am an ’06 graduate of VCU with a B.A. in English, I speak fluent French, Bengali, & English, 1/2 fluent in Arabic, read about 200 books in my lifetime, and my parents……..

    A law school educated person with a B.A. in English. I guess I will have to think about that a little more. My friend, as anybody can see by the post in this whole message section, you have had to resort to calling people names, and lying to try and maintain some sort of credibility. This whole thing in reference to cartels, was because you stated that taking drugs was harmless, and as I pointed out, it wasn’t harmless to the innocent people that were killed by these Cartels in Mexico. I also pointed out that drug money funds terrorism. As I stated, that is not the definition of harmless. Now, you can be anything you want to be on a computer screen, but as you have clearly displayed, you can’t even use an adult thought process, when you are shown a different point of view. You instead resort to childish name calling and feeble attempts at saying others are twisting your words. You are a failure.
    See you later kid, there are adults on here, that I can converse with, that have intelligence and maturity.

  76. muhangis says: Feb 16, 2012 6:16 PM

    Oh so it is okay for you two to namecall I see. But when I respond to it it’s not okay. Calling someone a little man, a liar, a phony want to be, etc. I suppose that’s not name calling. You are very hypocritical Woebegong.

    You lack an adult thought process Woebe. Nobody even agrees with a single thing you write on here. Re-check yourself my friend. And again, if you want to call me a liar then prove it. Otherwise what you write has no truth or credibility

    And yes I am currently studying law. An enormously high number of law students are previous English majors. Law schools love students with English degrees. Look it up. It helps if you know a thing or two in life, instead of being ignorant and wrong in every single thing you write.

  77. muhangis says: Feb 16, 2012 7:24 PM

    And the fact that you two are in such disbelief of my accomplishments/things I’ve done in life that you think there’s no possible way….. only makes me more happy. Thank you.

  78. muhangis says: Feb 16, 2012 7:36 PM

    And it shows your disgusting jealousy, that your life is not as well accomplished, so your only resort is to name call me as a ‘liar.’ Classy of you!

  79. bangitfootball says: Feb 22, 2012 8:31 AM

    THC@TCU ASAP!!!!

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