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President Obama: four-team playoff ‘a good place to start’

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It’s not exactly classified information that President Obama has long been a big proponent of some type of playoff system in college football.  Shortly after his election in 2008, The First Fan told 60 Minutes during an interview that he was inclined to “throw my weight around a little bit” when it came to pushing the sport toward a revamped postseason.

Of course, since actually taking office, the President has been faced with more pressing matters with which he’s had to deal, although there has been the lingering and underlying threat of Justice Department intervention in the interim.

Fortunately for most fans of the sport, the “arrogance” of the powers-that-be in college football appears to be subsiding a bit, with some type of playoff likely in the offing beginning with the 2014 season.  In light of this abrupt about-face toward the postseason, President Obama was asked by Bill Simmons of during his latest B.S. Report podcast — never thought I’d strings those words together in the same sentence — about the move toward a playoff in major college football.

While the President would prefer an eight-team playoff, he’s OK with the four-team proposals that seem to have the most momentum and the greater likelihood of being implemented, at least initially.

BS: Tell me about the college football playoff system that you once upon a time pushed for.

Obama: Looks like — I hear there’s talk that they’re going to at least start maybe with a four-team playoff, which —

BS: So you’re happy about this?

Obama: Well, I’d rather see it eight teams, but four is a good place to start. I think that gets us on the right trend. Nothing is more frustrating than at the end of the season, nobody knows who won. And what, there is some poll? Coaches make a decision? Nobody knows what that means. Because part of what makes sports great, part of what makes March Madness great, the NFL playoffs great, is every once in a while something happens during the playoffs that shows the character of a team.

Look at the Giants this year. Nobody would have picked them. They wouldn’t have been crowned as champions if you had a coaches’ poll at the end of the year. But they made the plays when it counted.

A final decision on a Div. 1-A playoff favored by the POTUS and many, many others is expected to come by the end of summer this year.  Hopefully, as intimated by the President, whatever system implemented won’t involve a current coaches’ poll.

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  1. woebegong says: Mar 1, 2012 9:33 AM

    I guess the democrats will now try to introduce some legislation to affect that as well. Dang, man, get the country going in the right direction first, you know the job you got elected to do, and then worry about college sports. Beside, if you did actually do any legislation, by the time the two parties compromised this and that, you would have no idea what they were all talking about and the NCAA would never be able to implement it anyway.

  2. emaimo80 says: Mar 1, 2012 9:43 AM

    6 team playoff makes more sense as the top 2 should have a bye week, while 3,4,5, and 6 duke it out for who plays 1, and 2.

  3. swcoach says: Mar 1, 2012 9:50 AM

    President Obama needs to focus more on the economy and the school system then filling out brackets for March Madness and the College Football playoffs or even his beloved Bears.

  4. bangitfootball says: Mar 1, 2012 9:50 AM

    Please I read this site to get away from quotes that imbecile says. Keep it sports please.

  5. deadeye says: Mar 1, 2012 10:01 AM

    The President needs to do something good for the economy, like dismatling the Federal Reserve. He’s just scoring some cheap political points during the election year.

  6. kiopta1 says: Mar 1, 2012 10:02 AM

    If a journalist asks him about it why can’t he answer as a fan? Quite with all the bs hate and other garbage. I am sure Reagan, Bush, and Clinton were asked about sports too. It’s a part of American life.

  7. lasseter1113 says: Mar 1, 2012 10:28 AM

    IN MY OPINION, the regular season is the playoffs. There is no other sport where each game matters so much. Maybe with just a 4 team playoff the regular season would still be just as exciting. People would still be crying and boo hoo-ing over who gets in those spots. I can just hear the 5th place team now.

  8. dexterismyhero says: Mar 1, 2012 10:34 AM

    What does Michelle and her 22 aides think?

  9. ncsportsfan says: Mar 1, 2012 10:37 AM

    Who cares what he thinks about sports?

  10. loge23 says: Mar 1, 2012 10:49 AM

    Of course if the President was a white Republican all of these yahoos in here would be all for his suggestions.

  11. drunkenjunk says: Mar 1, 2012 10:54 AM

    why does this d-bag keep thinking americans care what he thinks about sports?

  12. olskool711 says: Mar 1, 2012 10:55 AM

    The dude went on 7 vacations and played over 50 rounds of golf in the first two years of his being in office.

    His “hopey changey” thing has really helped turn the United States into a utopian wonderland.

    Now he goes and sticks his foot in his mouth and expresses his opinion on something he knows nothing about (kind of like his view on the United States and what we are all about).

    Just go to Hawaii and play golf.

    Leave us alone. Please.

  13. palmbeachbuckeye says: Mar 1, 2012 11:41 AM

    Dear Pres. Obama : Instead of wasting our time being involved in College athletics, I would like to suggest you do something to (1) Lower energy costs, (2) Promote policies that will cause business to hire the unemployed. Thank you and I sincerely hope you will be taking a plane back to either Hawaii or Chicago next January.

  14. kiopta1 says: Mar 1, 2012 11:52 AM

    I know things have been tough but how does that justify so many commenters and blogs being filled with nothing more than lunacy and anger. People act as if somebody stole their job, cheated with their wife, and punched their child. Add to that they complain about people or programs then take advantage of said people and programs. Then they have allergic reactions to anything that makes them question their point of view (facts). I even know a guy that hates the Pres yet was kept afloat with extensions to unemployment. Then when he got a job it was from an employer that was saved by some of the policies the Pres pushed. I think this guy is the same type that will eventually say ” keep govt out of my Medicare.”

  15. olskool711 says: Mar 1, 2012 12:13 PM


    “People act as if somebody stole their job”


    There are millions who have lost their jobs due to the “progressive” (totalitarian fascist?) polices of the annointed one.

    Where I live, if you don’t work for the Federal Government you either don’t have a job or in danger of losing it everyday.

    Small business owners? Entrepreneurs?
    A thing of the past.

    Where have you been the past 4 years?

  16. mycm1127 says: Mar 1, 2012 12:50 PM

    loge23 says: Mar 1, 2012 10:49 AM

    Of course if the President was a white Republican all of these yahoos in here would be all for his suggestions.

    That’s not true because if the President was a white Republican we wouldn’t even have any of the articles written. President Obama thinks he is an employee for ESPN. When he loses this election ESPN and their liberal beliefs will take back over and not talk about the new President at all, like it should be.

  17. tgohio says: Mar 1, 2012 12:55 PM

    Bill Simmons shouldn’t be asking him about it, Obama shouldn’t be answering questions about it, PFT shouldn’t be re-printing this, and I probably shouldn’t be wasting my time reading and commenting on it. This isn’t a story. Bill Simmons, interview athletic directors. Mr. President focus on our economy.

  18. Deb says: Mar 1, 2012 1:23 PM

    Presidents are asked about a myriad of subjects, including sports. Obama isn’t the first president who’s been asked his opinion about sports issues–Nixon commented regularly on his love for the Redskins. So the dimwit that says Obama thinks he works for ESPN should try becoming more culturally aware (and less racist). And since he gave this 60 Minutes interview just after he was elected in 2008, it doesn’t have anything to do with trying to win an election in 2012.

    The article is here because Obama is a polarizing figure and his name in a headline is a click magnet. If you don’t want to hear what he thinks, don’t click on Obama articles like Pavlov’s dog, and JT will stop running them.

  19. loge23 says: Mar 1, 2012 1:23 PM

    Just an update for the bubble boys: In their first 31 months in office, according to CBSNews (I know, I know – the “liberal” media):
    GWB – 180 vacation days
    BHO – 61 vacation days.

    I thought you guys were all about family values!!

  20. Deb says: Mar 1, 2012 1:31 PM

    @drunkenjunk …

    A lot of good men and women have died on battlefields for nearly two and a half centuries so you’d have the right to call the President of the United States a “d-bag.” I believe in your right to free speech. But actions have consequences. If I were in the same room with you, I’d slap you as hard as I could for your disrespect to my country. I don’t care what you think of President Obama or what anyone here thought of President Bush. The President represents the United States and we should all treat the office respectfully.

  21. olskool711 says: Mar 1, 2012 1:34 PM

    You can always tell the political party of the poster.

    Look above.

    If the person doesn’t really read what they are talking about and makes points that don’t jive with the facts that are right in front of their face.

    Or, if they just post any piece of information as fact, usually becasue they watch a lot of TV, then they usually are a …

  22. olskool711 says: Mar 1, 2012 1:42 PM


    What if a poster detailed to you hundreds of statements, remarks, and actions that B. Hussien has done that clearly shows he disrespected “your country?”

    Would you slap him?

    Pulling out the “disrespecting the office of the Presidency” card when holding B. Hussien responsible for his actions is a strategy that has been used (probably millions of times) since the day he took office. Its used by brainwashed people, who watch a lot of TV, to shut people up when they have no ideas to counter the truth.

    Its intellectually dishonest.

  23. Deb says: Mar 1, 2012 2:13 PM

    @olskool711 …

    Who is B. Hussein? I’m not interested in arguing politics with you or getting into this infantile name-calling nonsense. I disagreed with many of President Bush’s policies, but spoke respectfully of him as the democratically elected leader of my country. I disagree with many of President Obama’s policies, but speak respectfully of him as the democratically elected leader of my country.

    Would I slap drunkenjunk? That’s not the most appropriate response, so I hope not. But I have passionately stood up to people who were disrespecting my country when I was outnumbered and in dangerous circumstances abroad. I have many faults, but being standoffish isn’t one of them.

  24. florida727 says: Mar 1, 2012 2:46 PM

    What amazes me still is how the President can weigh in on college football playoffs, fill out his March Madness brackets, scrimmage with the Tar Heels, take 7 vacations and play 50 rounds of golf while in office, and STILL find time to spend more money than ALL of his predecessors. Spending trillions of dollars you don’t have is hard work, man.

    Oh, by the way, “loge23”, your stupidity, racism, and ignorance are all fully on display. Thanks.

  25. smokehouse56 says: Mar 1, 2012 3:18 PM

    Tell me, who the hell cares what this radical punk thinks. You damn liberals at SI are hard to take.

  26. jonkybon says: Mar 1, 2012 3:26 PM

    This is the same person that thinks we have 57 states. No one cares what he thinks about college football.

  27. olskool711 says: Mar 1, 2012 4:47 PM


    “Who is B. Hussein?”

    Funny you would ask.

    A basic internet search would prove, and nobody would contest it, that he has gone by many names.

    Barry Soetoro
    Barry Obama
    Barack Hussein Obama

    I wish he had come out for a 16 team playoff. Then at least I could say he finally got something right.

  28. crindal3000 says: Mar 1, 2012 4:51 PM

    Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.

  29. bjax357 says: Mar 1, 2012 4:54 PM

    Repubs need to get a life, better yet some real Candidates, instead of the same old same old. Its seems to be the same lame remarks, don’t matter what the Pres. says, the Yahoos are going to dismantle everything, its sickening. Since the repubs feel this way obviously because he’s black, why don’t you push for all black college athletes to go to All black schools , and HBCUs, and see what teams will be on national television. We won’t even Care who is #1 and number 2. It would not even matter. You guys are the reason the world is screwed up, you guys mettle in everything until it don’t work no more. Lie , cheat and steal. The same ones that allowed the coaches poll to go on year after year, like it makes since, the same ones that don’t have a problem with paying more taxes then billionaire. So what do you expect, a group of people with no common sense, just Screw everything up, just like the economy. When bush was screwing things up , he had the yahoos thinking you were a trader to your nation if you spoke against him. Now they are so brave, call the Pres a liar, put fingers in his face, total disrespect for the highest office in the land. One again you can try to hide what you are trying to say, but I rather you just come out and say what you really mean. Show the world what you yahoos are really made of.

    Wake up Yahoos, Share, Care and live life. Stop being so angry.

  30. woebegong says: Mar 1, 2012 5:09 PM

    So, let me see if I have this straight. If someone speaks out against Obama, they are being racist in your opinion. I think your processes are a little skewed to say the least. You don’t have to disagree or b a republican or white for that matter and not like a lot of his policies. It really doesn’t have anything to do with his color of his skin as far as I am concerned.
    Without knowing whom you are talking about, you are fiscally saying that all white people who do not agree with your point of view, and are Republicans, are always racist. That is a very narrow point of view and reflects poorly on your maturity in making such a statement.

  31. woebegong says: Mar 1, 2012 5:11 PM

    correction to my 5:09pm POST,

  32. uschawk says: Mar 1, 2012 7:54 PM

    Where I live, if you don’t work for the Federal Government you either don’t have a job or in danger of losing it everyday.

    Small business owners? Entrepreneurs?
    A thing of the past.

    Where have you been the past 4 years?

    My question is where were you the 4 years before he got into office? All the people on here talking about the economy and how bad it was are acting like it was the late 90’s before he got into office. Fact is the country was in a hole before he got in and is still in a hole now and will still be in a hole 4 years from now. That’s what happens when you start wars, pay for the wars on credit AND cut taxes. So yeah I’m not going to be voting a Republican back in anytime soon.

  33. vols84 says: Mar 1, 2012 9:04 PM

    The comments on here show just how divided and angry everyone is. Thank you NBC Sports Talk for reminding us of how bad it is instead of sticking with sports talk.

  34. ranksarot says: Mar 1, 2012 10:08 PM

    you need to turn off fox news and look in the mirror. like most republiclowns you live in a nightmare fantasy where Obama is out to get you. It’s pathetic. Look in the mirror and stop being a victim. the real problem is you…

  35. Deb says: Mar 1, 2012 10:38 PM

    @olskool711 …

    The guy’s legal name is Barack Hussein Obama, not B. Hussein. He went by Barry when he was younger and used his stepfather’s surname for a while. Big whoop. I used a nickname when younger, and half the kids in my high school changed their names overnight–no courts involved–as their parents divorced and remarried. If you have problems with a leader’s policies, you should be able to intelligently discuss those policies (in an appropriate forum–not a football blog). But spare me the schoolyard name-calling and birther legends. I’m a grownup and don’t waste time with such foolishness.

    However, I agree with you on the four-team playoff. And I disagree with the President on the notion that we need somewhere to “start.” We should either implement a full-blown playoff tournament or leave things as they are. No point in starting with some half-baked plus-one or lame four-team setup. I’d prefer ditching the conference championships and running with a tournament of the top 16 teams with no byes or the top 12 with week one byes for the top four. That’s the only way to ensure the best teams play in the tournament regardless of conference.

  36. inconsonance says: Mar 1, 2012 10:39 PM

    ATTENTION: Deb is trying to make sure we all know what a patriotic heroine she is, so let’s be sure to applaud her for such badassery. She’s a world traveler, fighting for truth, justice, and the American way; bitch slapping all those who dare speak ill of her country. Yeah, she owns America now. Pretty sweet, right?

    So congratulations, Deb. You’re the bestest evar. For what it’s worth, I really do hope that you end up a political prisoner in some third world country, or that the next guy you threaten to slap for saying something negative about your prized ‘murrika gives you five across the eye.

  37. Deb says: Mar 1, 2012 11:43 PM

    inconsonance …

    No, I’m just posting my opinions like everyone else. You’re the only one reading all that drama into my posts because you’re the only one who’s so preoccupied with me. No one else gives a damn. Bless your heart.

  38. barbeaux says: Mar 2, 2012 12:48 AM

    Deb is correct. Americans are supposed to respect the President. How many people remember when Conservatives wanted to run the Dixie Chicks out of Nashville and out of the country after they spoke out against Bush? The rallying cry then was, “Respect the President.” also, so many people have such horribly false beliefs about things and spread that ignorance. For Pete’s sake if you hear something and think to yourself, “Wow! I can’t believe he’s getting away with that!” then go do some research to see what’s true rather than blindly believing what the tv tells you. Learn Logic 101 and create valid arguments as to why you do or do not support the President’s policies. Otherwise, that which you speak will just be an epic fail. For example, Hawaii supplied a birth certificate for Obama. Claiming otherwise makes you sound dumb and should embarrass you. Research what constitutes the biggest financial expenditures the last decade. Guess what? A war is expensive. Two wars is even more expensive. Plus, there are gas prices. The price of gas actually peaked in 2008. Guess who was President at the time? No President does everything perfectly. Bush did good things. He also did bad things. The same holds true for Obama. The whole point to this is to plead for people to at least try to be more intelligent about what they believe. Don’t be the guy that claims the moon is made of cheese.

  39. bjax357 says: Mar 2, 2012 1:42 AM

    @ woebegong : If you read my post , I never said White people, did you know more whites voted for Obama then blacks, I said Repubs. please sir I said repubs, your weird whys of thinking, the lies, the spin. you said ” or whites for that matter.” you see you are the immature one. And yes i believe most repubs are Racist. Sorry, not the same Repubs that freed slaves.

  40. woebegong says: Mar 2, 2012 4:39 AM

    I can assure you at 63, I am far from mature. I would say even to the point that you weren’t even around yet, when I made my career in the military. You don’t have to come right out and say white people, when you make it a point to say that Obama is black and therefore if you are a republican, you are racist. Is Herman Caine racist, and against Obama because he is against Obama. You might want to read a little about history as well. Slavery was not just a bunch of southern politicians that were republicans. Because one is a conservative, it s\does not make him a racist. The republican parties values are conservative but that doesn’t make all of them racist. Ridiculous statement.

  41. mtheparrothead says: Mar 2, 2012 7:38 AM

    So pft, pbt, and cft all have articles based on obamas thoughts about Jeremy Lin, a college football playoff system, and poes combine day. Yeah, NBC definitely isn’t in the tank.

  42. bjax357 says: Mar 2, 2012 7:44 AM

    @woebegong, thanks you for your service sir. I’m just an American with my own point of view as you. I spent time in the Marine Corps myself. So I will respect that, but i have my own views based on my own experience. and when this Pres speaks , in comes the lynch Mob, says the most ridiculous things. They are more concerned with his name then action, and if you cant find anything good he has done, its becuz their RACIST!

  43. globeflyer says: Mar 2, 2012 10:46 AM

    Call me a cynic, but I don’t like Obama’s politics,nor did I like Bush’s. Why? Because neither party has the gonads to own up to the fact we are becoming (have become?) a nation that thinks the “government” is gonna take care of us….guess what? WE are the government. Tax the 1%? Hell, take ALL the wealth of every millionaire in the U.S and it will only cover the U.S. budget DEFICIT (not debt) for 10 years! Think about that. Then, let’s see, go after the “Middle Class” for more money….reminds me of the quote about when the Nazi’s were rounding up the Jews. (“They came for ____ and I said nothing”) If we don’t get more competitive, stop trying to avoid WORK, and become more educated, as a Nation, all this blather on a damn sports blog won’t be worth….well, it might be worth what the dollar will be.

  44. cometkazie says: Mar 2, 2012 3:16 PM

    The best defense against logic is ignorance.

  45. rolltidetom says: Mar 4, 2012 10:30 AM

    It’s Very Sad that many people think that doing more than one thing at a time is impossible to do; i guess they sit down to chew gum, so as to not fall down. lol. …i guess they can’t cook something to eat while watching TV & or cleaning up the house & or feeding the pets, plus answering the phone, sending an E-mail & or reading some facebook stuff or the newspaper, etc. – i e- MULTI-TASKING. …Getting several things done to allow time for other things later & or just getting done – what needs done – in a timely manner, rather than it taking way to long or not ever seeming to get done!! …If our government did things in a timely matter that would be great, if they did good things that would be great, if they actually made the powers that control college football set-up a 4 team playoff that would be great! & guess what; – it wouldn’t stop or slow down any other things going on & on in U.S. government, – it would just actually be something worth a crap actually getting accomplished for We The People(tax-payers), by those getting paid 6 digit salaries from the tax payers! …Instead of them just kissing more rich peoples-butts & letting them continue to take more unfair advantages of our countries many resources!! Whether it’s sports(college football), our federal lands oil reserves being given to Exxon, Chevron, etc., or repressing alternative power from We The People, or allowing the corruption in wall-street/banking, or taking more bribes for their campaigns & other self-serving future plans, etc.!!! Addressing the corruption, strangle hold some have on college football – would be a good thing & good start for our country in cleaning up it’s act; & multi-tasking is not only good, but very necessary in getting things done these days & most days!!! …It’s called COMMON SENSE; for those too dim witted to comprehend the concept, but of coarse – They likely won’t understand that either, LOL. Obama & our government has the time to fix the unfairness, corruption; – made by the current powers of NCAA college football (BCS, etc.) that is screwing up “our” college football season’s endings!!!!

  46. rolltidetom says: Mar 4, 2012 10:40 AM

    Our government officials practicing doing what’s right! …What a concept.! …it ought to start somewhere!! And some practice at Multi-tasking for good things wouldn’t hurt either! lol.

  47. rolltidetom says: Mar 4, 2012 1:35 PM

    There’s nothing wrong with conference championships; as long as they don’t ended up with giving foolish automatic bids to any college football team in a play-off system, since some conferences in collage football aren’t as good as others, & that can change repeatedly over the years(decades) & so Automatic bids are often unfair. The BCS system’s set-up of coarse sucks: as it’s called Bowl Championship Series, yet there is NO Series – just two teams that play for the National Title & leaves any other deserving team or teams out; & also the other BCS games are just glorified bowl games that have NOTHING to do with a championship or series of games to determine who’s #1!!! … The thing to do is simple: Have a Play-off series (a Bowl hosted tournament); either a 4 team play-off or a 8 team play-off. Anything else is to long or involves automatic bye’s & NO team deserves to get a free pass – for playing to earn being #1!!! …Simply have the Bowl games bid on who gets to host each play-off game & the play-off system’s then eventual title game! This only takes one weekend (with 2 more games) with a 4 team play-off system (which is what the plus one should mean, one weekend of football & two games; #1vs#4 & #2vs#3 & the two winners play for the national title.), easy & fair!!!! …Conference Championships are currently played the first weekend of every December; so then – All ya have to do is start your play-off’s after that, Best way is if it’s on the third weekend of December so everyone playing in the play-off’s is sure to get at least two weeks off before playing again – in case they are playing in a conference championship game (remember not everyone is in a conference & or also doesn’t necessarily have to be in a conference title game to be worthy of being ranked #1 thru #4 or being ranked #1 thru #8 if an eight team play-off is used. Not to mention there can be many teams with only one loss or undefeated teams that played much easier schedules than the one loss teams did.)!! …Either way a play-off is the only fair way to have “a” National Champion; & also the fairest way to qualify teams for the play-off system is by a ranking system that takes in-account the wins & strength of schedule to get those wins through the whole course of a season – which could have many undefeated or one loss teams that played very different strength teams during the season!! …The closest thing to that, ” That We Have”, is the BCS team ranking system – which is very close to having it right but just needs tweaking, in that all Division 1A Head Coaches should get to vote (which isn’t the case now.) & then also the Coaches with teams ranked #1 thru #4 (if in a 4 team play-off system) or #1 thru #8 (if in an 8 team playoff system) should then have their votes taken out of the final pole results, until No Coach ranked to be in the play-offs has a vote counted in that final tally; which stops any chance of self favoritism in deciding the play-off teams! Also the NCAA should monitor the way – the computer rankings are being set-up to calculate it’s one-third of the current BCS ranking system – to insure it’s fairness keeps getting more fair, & not favoring any team or conference! …I would also take out the Harris pole & all of it’s former players & other bias people; & replace it with a Referee’s vote for the other third of the BCS pole, since the Referees are the closest thing to neutral people we have. …The Harris Pole & A.P. Pole, etc. can continue their own separate poles as they have been doing, & We would then have their opinion poles separate from the BSC rankings & National Champion! The BCS is then as fair as can be; The Bowl Championship Series – becomes just that, a Bowl Championship Series – where the Bowls are still kept in the whole college football system – but in a fair way, not by the way that will make them the most money; The Bowl game match ups are determined by who is most deserving – not by who will make someone the most money & or by automatic bids from conferences that may or may not deserve it; & all teams have a good, fair chance of making the play-offs without the media, former players or the coaches that are in the play-offs having a say so about who’s # 1. Thus College Football makes more money thru being fair & the best teams playing for the title; instead of money or other self interest deciding what is right, fair for college football’s fans – who pay for this GAME. …AMEN.

  48. cometkazie says: Mar 4, 2012 4:00 PM

    Bowl games are meaningless, but they don’t have to be that way.

  49. norcalirish says: Mar 5, 2012 6:00 AM

    Government is fucking OUT of control.

  50. gators56 says: Mar 5, 2012 9:04 AM

    14-16 teams would be the best format. It would be 4 weeks long and can easily be accommodated, especially with the NC game going out longer into January than in the past.

  51. chiefcarnes says: Mar 5, 2012 11:39 AM

    The next thing we can expect is a college football CZAR.

  52. rawgator06 says: Mar 6, 2012 1:35 PM

    I really, really wish I didn’t click this link. Now I know that most of the people posting on this site are idiots. The economy has been growing, we have left a foreign war, Bin Laden is dead, and job creation is positive….but some idiots here are still posting that Obama goes by many names? nbcsports has quite a few freeper idiots on it

  53. rawgator06 says: Mar 6, 2012 1:36 PM

    Globeflyer, did you really have to Godwin the thread? No, increased taxes on the rich is not like the Nazis rounding up Jews. Idiot

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