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Les Miles keeps digging his own hole on Gunner Kiel

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Two months after expressing some not-so-flattering thoughts about former LSU commit and top-rated QB prospect Gunner Kiel, Tigers coach Les Miles has once again picked up the shovel and continued digging his own hole of verbal no-nos.

Miles, as you may recall, said Kiel didn’t “necessarily have the chest and ability to lead a program” during the 17th Annual LSU Bayou Bash in early February.

In an interview with Dennis Dodd of CBS Sports, Miles expanded on his words:

“I’m not bitter. I’m glad he stayed there. I really mean it. Here’s the truth: If you don’t have some swagger to you and you can step into this stadium and be able to know the advantage that you’re playing with the Tigers and you’re leading the program that has some real weight and clout, then you really need to stay home with your brothers.

“I don’t mean that [negatively]. I’m for him. He gets a chance to come in here and compete and start on a team that is a great team. I really meant what I said. I was talking more about the confidence and swagger. I was not demeaning. If he shows up, it means he has all those things …

“I mean it honestly, if it’s more about family for him, if it’s more being close to home … he would have never been successful as he needed to be. I mean it very respectfully …

“The guy we got now [Zach Mettenberger], he’s a confident son of a buck. He’s a throwin’, tough kid. If he continues to develop and learn and grow as a leader, no question.”

By my count, Miles said “I mean” or “I don’t mean” a total of five times. If you include some variations of the phrase, it gets closer to 10. So what do you mean?

The bottom line is that Kiel signed with Notre Dame. I don’t care how he did it, or how many times he changed his mind during the process. As annoying as it is at times, a kid has every right to change his mind about where he wants to go to school. Hell, you only get one crack at college. Make it count.

As for Miles, the excerpt above consisted of 16 sentences, when really, he needed two. “I understand my previous statements about Gunner were met with a lot of opposition. I didn’t mean for it to sound the way it did and I want nothing  but the best for him.”

He doesn’t have to mean it, and it doesn’t even have to be true, but it can’t be something that could end up alongside something like this.

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33 Responses to “Les Miles keeps digging his own hole on Gunner Kiel”
  1. gopokes0714 says: Apr 6, 2012 3:06 PM

    Les Miles heard there might be another SEC coach more misguided and unethical than he is. He had to make sure the nation knows just how much of sleaze bag he is.

  2. normtide says: Apr 6, 2012 3:26 PM

    He should just danced in the locker room to prove how foolish he is. Or better yet, pick on a female reporter. Now that would be more cowboy of him

  3. brewcrewfan54 says: Apr 6, 2012 3:26 PM

    For our sake Les Miles needs to talk more. For his own sake he should probably shut up.

  4. brewcrewfan54 says: Apr 6, 2012 3:28 PM

    And I’m sure he’s not the first freshman to be intimidated by the surroundings at a big time program right away. Good coaches realize this and coach the confidence into them so their talent can take over for their nerves.

  5. neauxgeaux44 says: Apr 6, 2012 3:37 PM

    I love how Les annoys second tier program fans…way to geaux….stay classy…

  6. normtide says: Apr 6, 2012 3:48 PM

    It is championship envy. Those programs would love to have Miles or Saban, the SEC’s tradition, and the crystal hardware we own. I smile everytime I read their posts.

  7. gopokes0714 says: Apr 6, 2012 3:59 PM

    really? my comment didn’t have anything to do with OSU. Just my username, don’t tell me you all are really that insecure!

    But since you brought my Alma Marta up, where do you think Les was before LSU? Shocking, an OSU fan might not like Les, but lets be honest he bring it on himself.

    Go ahead make this a Big 12 or OSU vs the SEC thread if you want. If it makes you feel better about yourselves then at least some positive came from it.

  8. birdcen says: Apr 6, 2012 4:13 PM

    The OSU fan seems to be the insecure one in this debate….

  9. lbroberts123 says: Apr 6, 2012 4:24 PM

    Given the grammatical errors, I have a hard time believing the OSU fan actually graduated college…

  10. Deb says: Apr 6, 2012 4:43 PM

    My objective was to defend Miles, but first I have to defend gopokes0714. His comments don’t have anything to do with SEC envy. Miles coached at Oklahoma State before moving to LSU. All the LSU fans who spew so much hate at Nick Saban are being extremely hypocritical to jump gopokes0714 for disliking Miles who jumped ship at OSU exactly the same way Saban did at LSU. If you have a right to your animosity, so does he.

    Now … yes, it would be nice if Les had just made a two-sentence comment quickly dismissing this issue when Dodd brought it up–and I’m sure Dodd brought it up–but he’s a college football coach, not a PR whiz. It was a stupid and classless thing to say about Kiel, but it was also classless of Kiel not to decommit once he decided on Notre Dame. And Miles thought he was speaking to LSU boosters, not the national media. It’s time reporters like Dodd got over it.

    Instead of continuing to ask Les why he stuck his foot in his mouth, I’d love for someone to ask Kiel whether his coaches at Notre Dame told him to keep LSU in the dark about his change of plans. Now that would be an interesting question.

  11. timh1955 says: Apr 6, 2012 4:57 PM

    I guess Les thinks Jordan Jefferson was big enough to lead a team too. He needs to learn some class and keep his mouth shut or eat some grass.

  12. mountaineer50415 says: Apr 6, 2012 4:59 PM

    Something about football would be an interesting subject. How are the football players doing at LSU and Arkansas? Who really believes that they have God as a coach?
    When I first began to work I was graded according to what the norm was. Now people can not get the best score because they are graded according to what would God have done. How stupid. He does not coach football or anything else here on this earth. If he did he would say he who is without………

  13. gopokes0714 says: Apr 6, 2012 5:01 PM

    @ Deb

    Thank you, I appreciate that. My first comment was a little out of line, so I appreciate your…. understanding.

    You also make some great points about Miles as well. Both Miles and Kiel could have handled it better. Unfortunately for Miles, the adult and coach will always/should be held to a higher standard. As such he is the bad guy by default.

    The true lesson is as a player, coach, or anyone in the national spotlight you should probably heed the old adage; if you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything at all.

  14. 10kmp says: Apr 6, 2012 5:13 PM

    Miles, like Gordon Gee, inserts his foot in his mouth ad nauseam. As I’ve said before, he wins both on the field and in the living room, but the AD should put this idiot’s mouth on the shortest of leashes. What a dope…

  15. mstiger1 says: Apr 6, 2012 5:18 PM

    Miles is right. If you got to stay home with your “Mama” then you don’t have the swagger to lead a top program like LSU. Wait until his coach chews him out on the sideline on TV at ND. I say he ends up transferring before he is done.

  16. spreadthecheese says: Apr 6, 2012 6:36 PM

    Maybe Miles should spend less time talking about Notre Dame’s roster and focus more on his own players only scoring a four on the Wonderlic.

    Calling out an 18 year old recruit because he didn’t want to move that far away from home? Stay classy, SEC.

  17. normtide says: Apr 6, 2012 7:00 PM

    Deb- My wife is from LA, and I have a number of friends there from my line of work. Only a few are so outwardly bitter about Saban. Most have moved on from it after his first trip to Baton Rouge. Most called to say grats after the BCS NC game, some praised Saban. I guess since I deal with more LSU in real life than online I don’t see as much hate for Saban from them. I know where Miles comes from, and I think OSU fans see Miles like some LSU fans see Saban. Even all the SEC is cheaters BS don’t bother me. It is part of domination, in any sport.

    All in all, when someone who roots for a Mike Gundy led team calls another coach a fool, someone is prob going to call them out on it.

  18. Deb says: Apr 6, 2012 7:05 PM

    @normtide …

    Like you, I have a lot of friends who are fans of all SEC teams–especially Auburn and Florida. Except for a few Tebowmaniacs, most are perfectly normal, nice people who congratulate us, etc., just as you said. I think the Internet draws all the crazies 😉

  19. BrownsTown (the 1st one, not the new guy using my name) says: Apr 6, 2012 7:36 PM

    Typical “Michigan Man.”

    Typical SEC lovefest as well in Commentsville.

  20. BrownsTown (the 1st one, not the new guy using my name) says: Apr 6, 2012 7:39 PM

    Bama fans…..if the Browns draft Trent Richardson, will he hold out to make sure he doesn’t take a pay cut?

  21. meefaw says: Apr 6, 2012 10:30 PM

    Wait… there a team in Cleveland? what was this thread about?

  22. dcroz says: Apr 6, 2012 10:43 PM


    Actually, Saban’s leaving LSU was a little different than Miles leaving OSU in that Saban went to the NFL for two years before going to ‘Bama, whereas Miles went straight to Baton Rouge. I also don’t seem to recall too much crying in Stillwater over him leaving or begging for him to stay, as about the only thing he could accomplish there was to beat OU a couple of times. In the end, everyone concerned has gotten the coach they really wanted/needed, and each coach concerned is in the best place for him. After all, these were the guys who finished 1-2-3 last year.

  23. 10of14 says: Apr 6, 2012 10:46 PM

    Miles is a dick. This has nothing to do with ND. If Kiel had chosen to de-commit and go to Texas, this dick head would have said the exact same thing…don’t make this an ND thing. On another note, kids de-commit now on a regular basis. My OSU friends not only got an ND de-commit, but so did Houston and USC. Kiel did what I did; decided he made a mistake before he moved and enrolled miserably to a state and university that didn’t feel good…and we now know that it’s coach is a big baby that needs to grow up.

  24. Deb says: Apr 6, 2012 11:04 PM

    dcroz … Just throwing a rope to gopokes0714 😉

    @BrownsTown (blahblahblah) …

    Are you the BrownsTown married to the Alabama girl who’s been commenting on here for the past couple of years or some new guy who’s just dropped out of the sky and decided to claim that username? Either way, I’m sure Sports By Brooks is thrilled to have so many clicks on that old page.

    Alabama has a pretty tough compliance officer these days. That issue has been thoroughly researched and was reported to the NCAA long ago. Clearly, they’re satisfied. But the horse is dead, so if you want to keep beating it, carry on. It won’t hurt the horse or us, and it seems to keep you entertained. God knows, you Browns fans need all the entertainment you can get.

    I’ll hope the best for Trent no matter where he ends up–just as I do for Mt. Cody in Baltimore. I’m praying, however, that such a lovely guy won’t wind up languishing in Cleveland as predicted. The Ravens may be a bitter rival of my Steelers, too, but at least they’re a proud franchise.

  25. geetee52 says: Apr 6, 2012 11:22 PM

    If the kid winds up being good enough to play in the NFL, he can make it just as easily from Notre Dame as he can from LSU. There are plenty of Domers in the NFL and a shortage of good QBs.

    What is funny it doesn’t even occur to Coach Miles which would be a better place from which to have a degree. Does anyone argue that a sheepskin from Louisiana State University is somewhat less prestigious than one that says Notre Dame on it?

  26. latchbeam says: Apr 7, 2012 12:17 AM

    I love that an LSU fan tried to make a joke about OSU’s academics… That is hilarious!! Definitely the funniest post I’ve read on here in weeks!!

  27. irishdodger says: Apr 7, 2012 12:34 AM

    Miles has done less w/ more than any HC in America. While Miles has been great at getting athletes, he has yet to prove that he can develop QBs. The only reason Mettenberger is at LSU, is b/c Richt had to finally kick him off the team after numerous arrests. Whether Kiel ends up in the NFL is too early to predict, but not playing for Miles is a good 1st step.

  28. brewcrewfan54 says: Apr 7, 2012 1:02 AM

    I should hope you’d reserve your prayers to something more useful than some fat ass making the Ravens.

  29. norcalirish says: Apr 7, 2012 6:34 AM

    “I’m not bitter. I’m glad he stayed there. I really mean it. Here’s the truth: If you don’t have some swagger to you and you can step into this stadium and be able to know the advantage that you’re playing with the Tigers and you’re leading the program that has some real weight and clout, then you really need to stay home with your brothers”.

    ROFL! A program with REAL weight and clout? Unless I missed something Notre Dame’s BCS vote is worth as much as Miles’ entire CONFERENCE. Derp.

  30. dcroz says: Apr 7, 2012 10:52 AM


    The “prestige” for where a Bachelor’s degree is from is mostly in the mind of the general public. When human resources people look to hire people, in most cases just the fact that you have your degree is what is important, not where it is from. And while in some circumstances a degree from Harvard or Stanford may give you an advantage, in others it may actually work against you, as a prospective employer may think you’d want too much money or that you’d think you should be running the company in six months.

    Now when it comes to post-graduate degrees, that’s another story, but even then which schools’ degrees are preferred depends on what field they are in. While a Master’s degree from Notre Dame in one field may be considered stronger than one from LSU, in another field the reverse may be true. It isn’t nearly as cut-and-dried as U.S. News and World Report or the Princeton Review would like for you to believe.

  31. bangitfootball says: Apr 7, 2012 12:49 PM

    Im beginning to think all football coaches are used car salesmen at heart.

  32. Deb says: Apr 7, 2012 2:12 PM

    @brewcrewfan54 …

    God’s power is limitless, and I can pray for the future well-being of a young father leaving Alabama for the pros as well as for the thousands of other issues, big and small, that cross my mind in a day.

  33. Deb says: Apr 8, 2012 2:24 PM

    Hmmm … wonder if I’ve touched a nerve with atheists or if my fan club is just godless. Of course … I already knew that. So does He.

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