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Les Miles wants divisional records to decide divisional champs

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As John has noted before, the SEC still hasn’t decided on whether to adopt an eight or nine-game conference schedule for 2013 and beyond. It doesn’t appear the conference will make any decisions before league meetings in Destin, Fla., at the end of this month, either.

Still, that didn’t stop LSU coach Les Miles from showing his support for an idea originally proposed by South Carolina coach Steve Spurrier: to count only divisional records when deciding SEC East and West champions, not overall conference records.

“I want the schedule to be fair and I want it to give everybody the same opportunity,” Miles said Tuesday in Birmingham. “I’m for the Western Division deciding the Western Division champion and the Eastern Division deciding the Eastern Division champion.”

Texas A&M and Missouri join the SEC this year and it sounds as though the future conference slates will share this year’s model: a 6-1-1, with one permanent rival and one alternating cross-divisional opponent. If Miles and Spurrier had it their way, the six divisional games would be the only ones counting toward a SEC championship appearance.

If that’s the case, then there’s no need to continue to debate over an eight or nine-game conference slate; just make it six games and don’t play cross-divisional opponents*.

(*that would be sarcasm. Yes, we’re still working on getting WordPress to install our facetious, comic sans font) 

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13 Responses to “Les Miles wants divisional records to decide divisional champs”
  1. seanmmartin says: May 8, 2012 5:25 PM

    Les Miles making sense? Jesus.

  2. rolltide510 says: May 8, 2012 5:52 PM

    Wait, I thought this was already the case, and the overall SEC record was the tiebreaker?

  3. kozbee says: May 8, 2012 5:52 PM

    Divisional records & Divisional Champs,ok Les now any clue to how your going to handle winning a BCS this season.
    And Steve Spurrier any thought when the Cocks will ever win a Conference Championship again.

  4. normtide says: May 8, 2012 6:21 PM

    I agree with Miles. Bama plays Tennesse every year from the west, AU plays UGA, LSU plays UF. UT is way down, and slow getting back. UGA is chronic under-achievers, UF should be back faster than the other 2. ARK plays USC, for now, but will prob change to MIZ. Who your cross rival is should not give any advantage.

  5. canehouse says: May 8, 2012 7:20 PM

    @rolltide510… the cross divisional games count against their overall SEC record… not certain for sure but their head to head and intra-divisional games are the tie-breaker. Certainly you were in jest.

  6. alligatorsnapper says: May 8, 2012 8:34 PM

    Every once in awhile I can understand Coach Les Miles. I do understand him this time, I think. I guess Miles is considering that for the past few years the West has been the source of the BCA NC and thus has been the most difficult schedule.

    It was just a few years before that Florida was the team to beat and they won two NCs, and with Georgia now heading back to its prominence, the East may be just about to break forth again. But whether it is the East or West SEC, it may be wisdom to determine the divisional winner by the record against the division alone. Each divisional winner will play in Atlanta for the championship, so each division will have an equal opportunity.

    A fun thought: to have Miles and Spurrier in the same room for a conversation.

  7. wilburmills says: May 8, 2012 10:11 PM

    Having Arkansas on its schedule is what cost USC the Eastern Division title last year…UA boat-raced USC even though USC beat UGA…Spurrier and Miles have a point

  8. ugabugkiller says: May 9, 2012 1:15 AM

    Umm… NO.

    What cost the Lamecocks the division last year is losing the AUBURN, the team Georgia BOATRACED, 45 to 7.

    Get your facts straight.

    Spurrier is just a poor loser. Always was, always has been.

    And, btw, love his crack about UGA and discipline when in reality, UGA actually DOES discipline their players, while he, at USC, DOES NOT.

    Wait, what’s that? Steven Garcia is back on the team… AGAIN?

  9. thacloser86 says: May 9, 2012 4:20 AM


  10. dannygjay says: May 9, 2012 4:48 PM

    Get rid of divisions completely and have top two ranked teams in each conference play for title. Any undefeated teams automatically qualify

  11. normtide says: May 9, 2012 5:18 PM

    I think we may be headed toward that, danny. The big debate in SEC land is about having to drop cross-division rivals. I dont want Bama to stop playing Tennessee yearly, but don’t think MIZ should be in the east division. I think we are waiting on the NCAA to approve it at this time.

  12. whalerpilot says: May 9, 2012 5:48 PM

    Bad Idea. This would insure a higher probability of 1 or 2 Dominate Teams in either Division having an exclusive advantage to the title Game. One loss in your division would likely eliminate you from contention. The 2nd or 3rd ranked Team in each division always hopes for a potential loss from the other division to have a chance at a title shot. This situation would leave only 4 dominate teams with a virtual lock on the Championship game. Do you really want to see a yearly Bama/LSU or GA/Fl match up or whoever are the top 2 teams per division each year have the only realistic chance of getting to the championship game. The Division Champ would come down to only one or two divisional games per year. One early season divisional loss could eliminate you from the title game even if you finish the Season at 11-1. 14 Teams 2 Divisions. Might as well have a 7 Game divisional schedule and not play any cross division games. Keep it like it is with an expanded 8 team Conference schedule. 7 Divisional rivals and one rotating out of division game. Granted, old rivalries may only get to play every 7 years but that would ensure a fair schedule. Spurrier is only crying because of what occurred last year when in fact the same situation could play to his advantage in other years if Georgia, Florida or another top Eastern Divisional team had to play an LSU, Alabama, or Arkansas. The seasons are what they are but the Tie Breaker rule usually sends the right Team to the Championship Game. Sorry Steve but you just didn’t beat Georgia last year. Arkansas has been pretty much eliminated from the Title Game by an early loss to Alabama every year in the past. This system would ensure that a single loss in your Division would all but eliminate you from any title chances even if another team had two losses from the other divisional games. That not right either. Some sort of rotational Schedule should be established and all 14 SEC Teams should have equal weight in determining the Championship Game. The real issue should be the rotational schedule and not favoring 3 or 4 Teams with a decided advantage.

  13. dannygjay says: May 11, 2012 9:32 PM

    If they make a four team playoff with only conference champions to play. Then the SEC should have a playoff game of their own with the two best teams. Last year in SEC championship if Georgia had somehow beat LSU. None of the SEC teams would likely have made it to the playoffs under the highest ranked conference winner. That would be tragic

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