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Dabo to determine Watkins’ discipline ‘at a later time’

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A misdemeanor drug arrest earlier this month has left Sammy Watkins‘ status for Clemson’s huge season opener against Auburn in early September up in the air.

How soon said status is cleared up remains to be seen.

Speaking to a group of fans/boosters/alumni Tuesday night in Myrtle Beach, head coach Dabo Swinney stated that no decision has been made on what punitive measures, up to and including a suspension for the opener, the dynamic sophomore wide receiver may or may not be facing.  From MyrtleBeachOnline:

“I’m still in the process of making the best decision for everybody,” Swinney said. “I’m very disappointed in Sammy, in the decision that he made. He’s been a complete model citizen, player, teammate, student since the day he got there. It’s just a reminder that even the best of the best still do stupid things from time to time.

“… This is a teachable opportunity and I’m proud of how he’s responded, because he has responded the right way. I’m in the process of gathering all the facts and making sure I have a good grasp of the situation and what happened, and I will determine his discipline at a later time.”

How soon is later is to be determined, although people close to the program and with knowledge of the situation fully expect a season-opening suspension to ultimately serve as another “teachable moment” for the entire team.

Watkins and a member of Clemson’s men’s soccer team were arrested very early last Friday morning and charged with simple possession of marijuana and possession of a controlled substance, with the latter possession charge relating to two schedule-2 non-narcotics pills found on Watkins’ person for which he did not have a prescription.

As a true freshman last season, Watkins led the Tigers with 82 receptions for 1,219 yards and 12 touchdowns.  All told, he racked up 2,288 total yards and 13 touchdowns.

(Tip O’ the Cap: Anderson Independent Mail)

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43 Responses to “Dabo to determine Watkins’ discipline ‘at a later time’”
  1. jonkybon says: May 10, 2012 5:44 PM

    Dabo, time to step up to the plate. You rightly suspended Bellamy last year for three critical games and now you must suspend Watkins for at least week 1 against Auburn. Everybody knows you aren’t Spurrier that will only suspend a needed player from the end of January thru the first of April. Strike one for Watkins should be 10% of the games, not like at South Crapolina where you get a lecture while doing shots for the first offense.

  2. freemantowilliams says: May 10, 2012 5:48 PM

    Translation: I’m hoping some huge cfb scandal comes out of know where and I can sweep this thing under the rug.

  3. John Taylor says: May 10, 2012 6:00 PM

    ^^^Now that’s funny right there^^^

  4. thecrazyasianinseccountry says: May 10, 2012 7:02 PM

    I don’t see how this matter is funny, oh well to each his own.
    Regarding Watkins Dabo gave an excellent answer and hopes he does take the opportunity to nip this in the butt before another more serious incident arises.
    As for what should be done only he know what is best, just because someone else in the same position got X and X amount does not and should dictate his decision.
    I a firm believer of handling each case on its own merit, like the student’s past histories and attitudes toward his coach, teachers, and other student, including the school’s guideline.
    “even good kids make stupid mistake.” … Can’t agreed more and I hope Watkins let this moment be a reminder to him how hard it is to build a reputation and easily destroyed by one bad choice.
    Want an example… Look at Joe Pa’s legacy.

  5. thecrazyasianinseccountry says: May 10, 2012 7:04 PM

    Never mind JT … I’m an idiot! I see what your joking about.

  6. John Taylor says: May 10, 2012 7:17 PM

    @thecrazyasianinseccountry: No worries at all. I’m very personally familiar with the “I’m an idiot!” feeling.

  7. thecrazyasianinseccountry says: May 10, 2012 7:44 PM

    Cool.. I knew there’s a reason I like you better than Mike Florio, other then the fact that he band me from posting, which by the way is fine by me because College fans are by far smarter than most NFL bandwagon, Saints hating, blah blah homos anyway.

  8. drjem says: May 10, 2012 8:24 PM

    dabo…..suspend Sammy for three games. You’ll be the “darling” coach of the year for being a known disciplinarian. Otherwise, you will be known & spoken of in the same thread as the pusillanimous Coach at South Carolina, LSU, Auburn, Alabama……oh, forget that I mentioned it; seems as though “most” of you had rather win than “discipline.” Of course if you recruited for the right reasons, you wouldn’t have these “social” problems. BUT….then you wouldn’t have a winning football team either. Go figure, that’s why you make the big bucks & just post my opinions on this blog.

  9. jonkybon says: May 10, 2012 8:35 PM

    thecrazyasianinseccountry:

    Normally I’d agree the every case should be judged on its own merits. When it comes to athletes representing a University, I think all like offenses should be treated the same so there is no hint of favoritism. Just because Watkins and Bellamy are stars oesn’t mean they should be treated any different then a bench warmer. All players caught using an illegal substances should be treated the same.

    At SC Garcia was given seven chances and never learned a lesson. In some programs stars don’t answer to the same standards. Its like when Tannyhill was the Shamecock QB: He was arrested for underage drinking and tried to bring his underage girlfriend into a bar.

    I admire UGA and UK. Both have no tolerance policies. First offense is 10% suspension. Second is 50% and third is the highway. Then you have that school that represents the Palmetto State that has a four strike program, except for stars like Garcia who got seven strikes and would have gotten more if Shaw wasn’t ready. That same program where you can have three strikes for drugs and if you get busted for theft or underage drinking, that counts as a first offense in a new category.

  10. thecrazyasianinseccountry says: May 10, 2012 9:07 PM

    How many strikes does Watkins have? I said every case!! Not only case involving star athletics… Every case treated and punished according to their reputations.
    Why should a kid who never got in trouble and is respectful to his teachers and coached get the same punishment as the guy who has been suspended before for same mistake or other mistake, who has no respect for authorities, why ?

  11. Deb says: May 10, 2012 9:52 PM

    @thecrazyasianinseccountry …

    How long ago did PFT ban you? They’ve had some personnel changes and things have gotten much better lately.

  12. freemantowilliams says: May 10, 2012 11:19 PM

    Man my grammar is slipping. I meant nowhere in the above post. Don’t do drugs kids. Drugs are bad m’kay.

  13. thecrazyasianinseccountry says: May 10, 2012 11:22 PM

    @Deb
    Since last month I believe bc none of my post went through, not even the ones when I compliment him for a nice job and sounded like a journalist and not moralist

  14. thecrazyasianinseccountry says: May 10, 2012 11:24 PM

    I guess he took my sarcasm as a personal attacks … But yep I stopped trying to make a post there … I’ll every none and then but no good, like the Chad Jones story

  15. jonkybon says: May 11, 2012 6:36 AM

    Deb says:
    May 10, 2012 9:52 PM
    @thecrazyasianinseccountry …

    How long ago did PFT ban you? They’ve had some personnel changes and things have gotten much better lately.
    ________________________________

    Florio and Co are still a group of hypocrits. They are self admitted Pat fans and take every cheap shot they can at the Fins and Jets. The obvious Pat fans are allowed to become extremely rude and nasty to Jet and Fin fans. They are allowed to post whatever they want. If a fan of either Miami or NY post anything negative about the Pats or their fans, Florio and Co pull the posts asap. Type the word Cheatriots and watch the clock to see how fast Florio pulls the post.

    At least on this side of the website the writers have spines. I find Mr Taylor here has a very definately Gamecock lean, but he isn’t petty and allows people to voice their opinions. I may not like everything he says (and vice versa), but he is man enough/secure in his convictions to take.

  16. jonkybon says: May 11, 2012 6:44 AM

    drjem says:
    May 10, 2012 8:24 PM
    dabo…..suspend Sammy for three games. You’ll be the “darling” coach of the year for being a known disciplinarian. Otherwise, you will be known & spoken of in the same thread as the pusillanimous Coach at South Carolina, LSU, Auburn, Alabama
    ________________________________

    3 games is a bit excessive for a first offense. Even the strictest programs only punish 10% for a first offense. That would be 1.2 games. Since Auburn is week one and not Ball State, ECU or Citadel, that would seem sufficient. If one of the cupcakes was the week 1 match, then I would suggest Sammy be suspended two games. Missing the Auburn game would send a very clear message to Watkins, the team and the rest of the NCAA. I doubt Dabo pulls a Spurrier and sits down over cocktails with Sammy and discusses why he was a bad boy shouldn’t get caught again w/out any game suspension.

  17. John Taylor says: May 11, 2012 8:08 AM

    @jonkybon: not that there’s anything wrong with it, but I’m not even remotely a fan of the ‘Cocks. I will admit, though, that I’m a huge fan of Steve Spurrier. That I will unabashedly cop to.

  18. jonkybon says: May 11, 2012 8:32 AM

    @John Taylor: I stand corrected (again). However, I believe you can see where the line seperating the two becomes a bit hazy.

  19. nicksabansanahole says: May 11, 2012 9:39 AM

    For all you idiots on here: at a later date means why would i tip my hand on if he is going to be suspended for the Auburn game now so they can have all of the time they need to game plan for no Sammy. If I was Dabo I would suspend him for the first game and not say anything and just let sammy warm up and then come out with no pads on and thats how people would find out about the suspension. There is no advantage for anyone to say anything now. Dabo will do the right thing. Don’t underestimate him.

  20. jonkybon says: May 11, 2012 11:11 AM

    Too funny. The insecure Florio is so predictable. A story was written about the Pats signing yet another FA and I asked if the salary cap didn’t apply in NE or if they made their own rules as they went and right on cue, Florio can’t stand anything anti Pat so he once again pulled my post despite not a single written violation.

    Hey John, maybe if you watered MF he might grow into manhood and grow a pair. Its amazing how much he can and allows to be dished and he can’t take ANYTHING!

  21. woebegong says: May 11, 2012 1:23 PM

    Nicksaban….,

    I believe the NCAA has a ruling that you must inform and confirm who is active the day before at latest, of the game. Maybe Sweeny is hoping that holding the punishment confirmation over the guys head, will tend to keep him straight, as he must know that he can’t pull a Spurrier -Garcia 5 chancer and get away with it. I really don’t think, the uncertainty of knowing whether he will play against Auburn, will have much of an affect on Auburns game planning. Clemson has enough weapons to give Auburn night mares either way, and no matter who plays, Watkins, or another WR, the game plan will be the same. At most it might affect, which side of the backfield a DB for Auburn plays on, as they probably want their fastest player on him back there.

  22. Deb says: May 11, 2012 2:07 PM

    @jonkybon …

    JT is an Ohio State/Cleveland Browns fan … so not in the ballpark of South Carolina. But if you’ve watched Steve Spurrier through the years, it’s hard not to be a fan of the Ol’ Ball Coach. He’s an extremely entertaining guy.

    Rosenthal ran the moderators at PFT and had it set up so that you couldn’t even post the word “Florio” … along with “Florida,” “Alabama,” and a lot of other bizarre things that didn’t make a lick of sense. He was also in charge of banning people. It has improved a lot since he left. At least you can call out Mike by name now, and you can disagree with his articles. But they still censor some of the weirdest things. Sometimes I wonder if the moderators censor based on their personal fan allegiance.

    I don’t think Florio is a Pats fan. Some think he’s a Vikes fan. People used to post that Florio was a Steelers fan, but he’s shown us so much pure hate that’s hard to believe. Here’s what I know: It doesn’t matter what team he follows, he’ll go after any team that will generate page clicks. He’s a master at stirring the pot.

    @thecrazyasianinseccountry …

    If you’ve been banned, you wouldn’t be able to log in or your posts wouldn’t show up on your screen when you hit submit. If they show up on your screen but then disappear later, the moderators are censoring you. They probably just don’t get your cool sense of humor ;)

  23. thecrazyasianinseccountry says: May 11, 2012 3:09 PM

    @Deb
    Thanks for explanation .. Censor is the appropriate word not ban..
    But how one tame a TIGER!!!

  24. nowillrepeat says: May 11, 2012 4:28 PM

    I think we all can agree,

    South Carolina > Georgia > Clemson

  25. jonkybon says: May 11, 2012 5:45 PM

    Deb,

    No Florio is a huge Pats fan. Before he started PFT, he ran a website only posting Pats salary cap and speculations. I believe you are correct about most things in your post, but Rosenthal worked for Florio and I believe (don’t know) that Florio gave Rosenthal his marching orders.

    You still can’t say anything negative about the Pats or the post is pulled. I’ve never been banned, but got digusted when Florio wouldn’t allow Cheatriots or mention of cameras, but would allow Pats fans to claim Ryan pimped out his wife and far, far worse.

    Mike F has a severe case of Napoleon Syndrome. Little man that uses every once of his limited power to get his way and wont tolerate a fraction of what he dishes to come back.

  26. jonkybon says: May 11, 2012 5:49 PM

    nowillrepeat: That is why drugs are illegal in just about every country in the world. SC had 2 good years, but were still 4-6 against teams with winning records (on game day). Best d players left as did their best coach, Johnson. Offense sucked and Lattimore has yet to finish a single season. UGA, no longer bound by the week 2 game, will crush SC worse then Auburn did in the 2010 SEC Championship game. SC will be lucky to finish 8-4 and thats because of the 3 of the 4 non conference games are cupcakes, which is usual for the pussy coach that JT admires .

  27. acieu says: May 11, 2012 6:20 PM

    DAbo the Clown wimps out

  28. dbo4carolina says: May 11, 2012 7:34 PM

    Comparing any or all of the Gracia problems to Watkins is way off. Garcia was a knucklehead for sure and in my opinion given too many chances but his were all misdemeanors. Sammy was in possession of 2 different schedule 2 narcotics. That is a FELONY people!! The marijuana is a misdemeanor and not that big of a deal in the eyes of the law.

  29. abrellbama says: May 11, 2012 7:34 PM

    If Dabo Swinney doesn’t can him for the opener, then that shows how gutless he is and how the punishment doesn’t really matter. “Let’s just can him for a very weak team because winning is more important than discipline”. With that attitude, don’t expect your players to listen to you in the future.

  30. Deb says: May 11, 2012 7:51 PM

    @jonkybon …

    Didn’t know that about Florio’s past Web site. Being a Pats fan would certainly explain his Steeler hatred.

    Yes, Florio’s the boss, but things changed a bit when NBC came into the picture. Rosenthal was with NBC Sports, and he was ultimately over the moderators although they have an NBC supervisor. I interacted with him some when they were first deciding how to implement moderation; he was very picky about certain things, which is why I think it’s relaxed a little since he’s left. My understanding is that Florio doesn’t really get involved with that kind of day-to-day minutia. He’s got a lot of irons in the fire these days. That’s why MDS was named managing editor when Rosenthal left.

  31. John Taylor says: May 11, 2012 8:31 PM

    In no way, shape or form has Florio ever been, or is he currently, a Patriots fan, nor has he ever run or been involved with a Pats-centric website.

    I don’t know where that came from, but it’s flat wrong.

    Now, feel free to carry on…

  32. thecrazyasianinseccountry says: May 11, 2012 10:27 PM

    Who’s Floiro again? Flower? Flo?

  33. Deb says: May 12, 2012 12:51 AM

    ROFL … thanks for that clarification on Florio and the Pats Web site, JT. I’ve read so many debates on PFT about whether he’s a Steelers fan (which would make sense given his West Virginia ties) or a Vikes fan (and I believe he appears fairly often on KFAN). But have never heard anyone suggest he’s a Pats fan or mention him running a Pats site. I think he’s simply a master of writing articles that stir up commentary–and negative posts on the Steelers are good for 200 comments. Maybe one of the moderators is a Pats fan.

    @thecrazyasian …

    These days, the censors are usually pretty reasonable. Experience has taught me to keep a Word doc up and just dump a copy of every comment there until I see if it posts. If it doesn’t, I usually can do a quick edit, and they’ll post it the second time around. They stop some of the oddest things though. The other day a guy was ranting at a couple of us and then apologized. I tried to tell him “No problem,” but they kept censoring that. Another guy posted some really nice things about me, and I tried to thank him, but they censored my thank you on the first try. Weird.

  34. thecrazyasianinseccountry says: May 12, 2012 1:13 AM

    Thanks Deb at least you have objectivity …except for liking certain but we are not going to mention that… Not everyone can be perfect …LOL

  35. thecrazyasianinseccountry says: May 12, 2012 2:59 AM

    @Deb…
    I saw a Deb today commenting on American Idol is that a different Deb…..
    No no no I don’t watch American Idol because I like it …. Your have understand, the wife insist that we needed to watch her show together as a family so I reluctantly agreed to watch it ….. Well anyway… Deb
    I was just curious if that was you or someone else. Alright folks one last time … I only watch it with the wife, God her that’s what she enjoys!

  36. Deb says: May 12, 2012 2:00 PM

    @thecrazyasian …

    Thank you!! The fella saying nice things on PFT was a Ravens fan posting about my objectivity. You guys get me and you make the blogs fun. :D

    No, that wasn’t me commenting on AI–although I do watch the show. Nothing wrong with that! LOL It’s extremely rare for me to comment on any other blog site–just don’t have the time and football’s my poison. But if I did, it would be under a different username. I only use “Deb” for CFT/PFT.

  37. thecrazyasianinseccountry says: May 12, 2012 3:07 PM

    I so as much …. Reason I asked because the other Deb sounded reasonable other than other 95 percent of comments on there … I can careless who’ll on AI but to read most those comments was very disturbing to me, like you I don’t comment on those either, but am curious of what people think… Any way they opine that Jessica Sanchez is just a karaoke singer only reason she’s in the top three is bc AI rigged the contest bc they needed to continue riding the train Lansanity started. If not for that she wouldn’t even have been in top 24, that’s why this year there were two Asians on there. All I can do is read and continued to be amazed by how narrow certain people’s perspectives are.
    Take sports fans for example, if their team doesn’t win then the refs were paid off or the other team cheated, bc they hit too hard and we couldn’t stop them from doing it but the refs refused to throw the flags or whatever. Then there’s the excused that no way should to obvious #1 and #2 play each bc they’re in same conference… Why is it so hard for people to just see this as what it is… Entertainment, it’s not a matter of life or death, the sun will rise again, instead of saying “your got us this time, good game.”
    They result to ruled and pathetic excuses for why so and so did this or did that.
    Don’t get me wrong I’m all for passion and support, but to take it further and make up excuses for why they lost or stereotyping at another’s expense…. I wonder if those people who called Sanchez a “typical Asian karaoke machine,” or “don’t she realized they have Filipino Idol”… She is only sixteen. If ever I catch myself making excuse for my teams or poke fun at others bc of spite, then I will never watch another sport game or a competitive event ever again.

  38. Deb says: May 12, 2012 5:07 PM

    @thecrazyasian …

    That’s why I stay away from those blogs. Like you, that kind of commentary makes me cry for the human race. If I’m not mistaken, as a type of game show, Idol would be monitored by the Federal Trade Commission. It’s not rigged. If it were, an unmarketable artist like Taylor Hicks would never have won :)

    Sanchez fascinates me. I can’t fathom how that voice comes out of that itty-bitty girl. She is extraordinary. I’m a huge Jennifer Hudson fan–and just happened to re-watch Dreamgirls the night before Jessica’s performance of Hudson’s song from the film. She could never match Jennifer (or the original singer, Jennifer Holliday) in my mind. But she came closer than anyone else I’ve seen. She’s unbelievable, and these are exactly the people who should be in the top three. Who did the crazy people think should have gotten that spot?

  39. thecrazyasianinseccountry says: May 12, 2012 5:39 PM

    Most were just teensy crying over Hollie’s lost. Somebody had to go, if anyone else was sent home, my wife and I would have agreed either way bc they all deserved to be there. But to bash a sixteen yr old and throwing out stereotype just to express your opinion over something so silly, is not necessary. Like continuing to accused ESPN and BCS of rigging the NCG or why SEC has six or seven teams ranked in the top twenty five. Or when LSU, Alabama, and Arkansas was ranked 1,2, and 3 bc the voters are all paid off by the SEC. Tired of ESPN saying SEC is the best conference then do something about it, WIN!!! Not Change the rules bc the top two teams are from the same conference. If Florida would have lost in the conference championship game in 2006, then more then likely OSU and MICH would have had a rematch, but instead Florida said, “enough of that shut BIGX, tired ESPN saying your the best!”
    SEC hasn’t looked back since.

  40. Deb says: May 12, 2012 10:22 PM

    I was ready for Hollie to go. Nice voice, but artistically, she’s not in the same class as the other three. As you say, though, it really doesn’t matter. Hudson was eliminated at number six and Chris Daughtry at number four. Both became extremely successful without the show.

    These fools whining about the SEC have no sense of football history. The Big 10 and the Pac 12 have had their runs and will again. I remember when it seemed like the AFC couldn’t win a Super Bowl–and then it seemed like they couldn’t lose. The SEC is a strong conference, but inevitably the championship streak will end. That’s how these things go. It’s like all the complainers have the memory capacity of gnats … or they’re all five years old. And they definitely act like five-year-olds when they lose ;)

  41. thecrazyasianinseccountry says: May 12, 2012 11:45 PM

    But it’s sure is fun being on top… Stealing a line from the wife ….. … That’s back when we were in Moab climbing the canyon’ wall, anyway I SEC for another two three …………… Hundred more years.

  42. kozbee says: May 13, 2012 10:23 AM

    Dabo has his hands tied with the first game of the year`Auburn i believe it is.Everyone better think Dabo is going to try and pull a trick out of the hat to keep Sammy in that game.When Clem is winning their fine but when they start losing then they become Uncle Clem from days of old.

  43. spurrier2012 says: May 16, 2012 4:20 PM

    Hey, I hear his punishment is he’ll start against Carolina. He better smoke some weed before that game this year….and he’ll need some for after as well for the pain.

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