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Grand jury charges man in post-BcS video with sexual assault

Brian Downing AP

Some four months after the video of an Alabama fan putting his “junk” on a passed-out LSU fan following the BcS title game went viral, charges have been filed against said fan.

According to the Associated Press, Brian H. Downing was indicted by an Orleans Parish grand jury and formally charged with one count each of sexual battery of a male victim and obscenity.

Bond was set at $50,000.

After an alert was issued for him by the New Orleans Police Department, Downing turned himself in to authorities Jan. 19.  He was then arrested on charges of sexual assault and obscenity, and released on a $10,000 bond.

In the hours after the Tide’s title-game win over the Tigers Jan. 9, a man alleged to be Dowling was videotaped placing his genitals on another man at a packed Bourbon St. fast-food restaurant.  The video exploded across the vast expanses of the Internet in the ensuing days, with people not connected to the situation clamoring for a police investigation.

In a statement released by the 32-year-old’s attorneys a week after his arrest, the defense team claimed the incident involving the 18-year-old victim was akin to frat-house hazing and said the accusation “demeans the real and serious trauma of actual victims of sexual violence.”

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68 Responses to “Grand jury charges man in post-BcS video with sexual assault”
  1. cfbfaninbadnfltown says: May 17, 2012 4:29 PM

    Looks like someone is going to be a registered sex offender soon

  2. jonanthans says: May 17, 2012 4:41 PM

    I work with an Alabama fan who actually defends this guys actions. His viewpoint? “The guy shouldn’t have passed out”. Seriously. In a public restaurant with people all around. This is the type of fans you get from Alabama.

    Led by Brian Downing and Harvey Updike, Bama is in the lead for the worst fanbase in all college sports, ahead of even WVU.

  3. mydixienormus says: May 17, 2012 4:42 PM

    When they say “genitals” it sounds like the guy whipped out his unit. He didn’t. It was the sack only.

    Not that the sack is ok, but let’s call a spade a spade.

    If I had to choose between the unit and the sack….

    Note: I’m glad they didn’t have cel phone cameras when I was in college.

  4. papabush88 says: May 17, 2012 5:56 PM

    USC:

    USC frat guy and UCLA (rival) sorority girl caught having sex on top of building.

    http://blogs.laweekly.com/informer/2011/03/usc_kappa_sex_nude_photo.php

    Alabama:

    32 year old guy tea bags an LSU (rival) dude.

  5. Deb says: May 17, 2012 6:12 PM

    jonanthans says:

    I work with an Alabama fan who actually defends this guys actions. His viewpoint? “The guy shouldn’t have passed out”. Seriously. In a public restaurant with people all around. This is the type of fans you get from Alabama.

    Led by Brian Downing and Harvey Updike, Bama is in the lead for the worst fanbase in all college sports, ahead of even WVU.
    ————————————————-
    This is the type of fans you get in every fan base. And you also get fans who are appalled by this behavior. Don’t know what team you support, but apparently your team gets the type fans who are so unbelievably stupid they use two morons and one idiot coworker to brand thousands of people. That is called stereotyping, and it is a kind of bigotry born out of extreme ignorance. How sad that you’d assume every decent fan of Alabama–or West Virginia–would condone or defend this type of behavior. Alabama fans raised thousands of dollars to help care for Auburn’s trees after one fool committed a vicious act of vandalism.

    A person who would brand thousands for the behavior of a few nuts is just as much an extremist as the nuts he’s ranting about. You’re as bad as they are–worse if you’re sober and relatively sane because you should know better.

  6. papabush88 says: May 17, 2012 6:22 PM

    Maybe he was just endorsing same sex marriage?

  7. brutusbuckeye2011 says: May 17, 2012 6:22 PM

    I find hard to believe that times have changed so much that this type of behavior is apparently not extremely rare. I never heard of such a thing when I was in college (class of 70). The stigma of a guy doing this to another guy would have been too much to live down.

  8. jonanthans says: May 17, 2012 6:35 PM

    Deb,

    Bama fans are the ones out doing these acts. Yes I’m sure the majority of Bama fans are good people. However you are still leading the nation in stupid idiotic acts. Yes we all know u will defend your Tide, however Updike and Downing are the ones setting the examples of Alabama football for the nation, and my idiot co-worker sets it for us locally. your boys……

  9. Deb says: May 17, 2012 7:06 PM

    @jonathans …

    No, they are not “my” boys. I’m defending Alabama, not them. They are a couple of idiots joined by a lot of idiots on blogs who want to believe they’re indicative of an entire fanbase. You are what you are. Ignorant.

    And no, Alabama fans aren’t leading the nation in idiotic acts. A visiting fan was nearly beaten to death by thugs who also assaulted his pregnant wife after a West Virginia game. Visiting fans were shot at an Oakland Raiders game. These things happen every season. A visiting fan was blinded by a Bears fan two years ago in Chicago. Somehow you guys just don’t find that stuff as interesting as a nut poisoning some trees or an idiot dry humping a drunk. Potentially deadly attacks on humans just aren’t low-brow enough to capture your attention.

    Or more accurately, if it doesn’t involve Alabama, it doesn’t count.

  10. Deb says: May 17, 2012 7:10 PM

    @brutusbuckeye2011 …

    Well, honey, then maybe you should catch up. After this happened, I thought the same thing, so I did some research and discovered this little dry-humping thing (pants on, no genitals exposed) is a common form of lording it over a vanquished opponent. In fact, it’s so common, gamers have figured out how to mimic it with their avatars.

    http://www.wikihow.com/Teabag-in-Halo-3

  11. papabush88 says: May 17, 2012 7:14 PM

    @Deb

    Some people suffer from extreme cases of jealousy. Alabama and USC are schools that dominate college football. As a USC fan, I experience envious people like jonathans all the time. They have nothing but negative things to say about programs like USC, Notre Dame, Alabama, etc. I’ve now accepted that USC is the villain of CFB. We are Darth Vader. But Vader sold the most lunch boxes. A lot of foreigners hate this country out of jealousy. A lot of people hate LeBron out of jealousy because of his talent…the only difference is that USC and Alabama have National Championships.

  12. Deb says: May 17, 2012 7:23 PM

    @papabush88 …

    Thanks, I needed that. Love them or hate them, I’ve always respected winners. I hated the 90s Cowboys probaby more than any other team in my memory, but still think they were one of the best teams I’ve ever watched. Bad sportsmanship doesn’t compute for me … but neither do crazy tree-poisoners, Brian Downing, fairweather friends, and a lot of other things :)

  13. southernpatriots says: May 17, 2012 7:29 PM

    According to friends who have followed this story in New Orleans, where they live, they say the D.A. has announced for weeks now to expect an indictment any day.

    Curiosity seekers are coming into the Krystal and other businesses nearby asking questions about the incident.

    Several people have asked to purchase the table and chairs where this incident occured. They did not indicate of which teams they were fans, but this is a disgrace to those who offered, not their teams. Krystal management has said they are enjoying an increase in business since the incident made local and national news.

  14. papabush88 says: May 17, 2012 7:29 PM

    @Deb

    Let the haters kick rocks. And if I remember correctly, you graduated from USC and are a huge Alabama fan. So, you’re basically, in one way or another, connected to the top programs.

    I know jonathans pissed you off, but imagine how mad you would be if you weren’t an Alabama fan and had to watch the Tide win championships in 2009 and 2011? Or a USC hater and had to watch their run from 2002 to 2008, and just when you think they were gone due to sanctions, they came back in 2011? People hate our programs because of our success and their lack there of.

  15. papabush88 says: May 17, 2012 7:33 PM

    @southernpatriots

    Just wrong. What next? Is Petrino going to sell his bedroom sheets? (Although, I did hear he sold his “hog”)

    Wow, and I thought Los Angeles was weird. At least the heteros in LA do hetero things and the homos in LA do homo things.

  16. kozbee says: May 17, 2012 7:36 PM

    This kid passed out could of caught genital herpes or can show up in a year or two.Sexually Transmitted disease`s are very easy to catch.IMO the azz needs a year or two in jail and be a sex offender with his picture out there for everyone to see and then a nice lawsuit for him to have to pay off years to come.

  17. southernpatriots says: May 17, 2012 7:41 PM

    papabush88: You are so correct. Some of the things in NO which are memoralized would give the non-straights in LA a run for their money.

    Never had a soft spot in my heart for LA until one of our young children we assisted in Appalachia was accepted by Cedars-Sinai there for their cystic fibrosis program, which includes a free lung replacement if and when that may become necessary. Several of us will be going out there this summer to see the precious young girl and to meet with the great Americans at Cedars-Sinai.

  18. papabush88 says: May 17, 2012 7:42 PM

    @kozbee

    He was not passed out. He was taking a frat nap. And if he was a Texas Tech fan, he’d have herpes for sure.

  19. fatfreddystubbs says: May 17, 2012 7:48 PM

    A person who would brand thousands for the behavior of a few nuts is just as much an extremist as the nuts he’s ranting about.
    ————————————————–

    to be exact, i think two “nuts” are the root of the problem in this case.

  20. papabush88 says: May 17, 2012 7:50 PM

    @southernpatriots

    Born and raised in LA. Lived here my whole life. Some of the WORST people are here. It’s not even a socio-economic thing. Many of the rich, Hollywood types are just as bad as the poor trash. Beverly Hills sucks. Hollywood sucks. Downtown LA is getting better. West side (Santa Monica, Pacific Palisades) is nice. And Pasasdena area is nice.

    Thought about moving to Nashville last year, but both my family and my wife’s family are out here. So, it probably won’t happen. Don’t get me wrong…some good people out here. They just forget how to drive when it rains 3 days a year.

  21. godfatherd says: May 17, 2012 7:51 PM

    I don’t agree with what this guy did but charging him with sexual assault is going waaaaaay overboard. This guy has a very legitimate chance of ending up on a sex offenders registry, and it is obvious (at least to me) that he does not belong there.

  22. papabush88 says: May 17, 2012 7:54 PM

    @godfatherd

    Not sure what you mean. He physically, sexually offended someone. Doesn’t that make a person a sexual offender?

    If I’m looking for a babysitter for my kid, I’m going to want to know if someone has a tendancy to place their junk on sleeping people’s faces.

  23. godfatherd says: May 17, 2012 8:09 PM

    Not sure what you mean. He physically, sexually offended someone. Doesn’t that make a person a sexual offender?

    If I’m looking for a babysitter for my kid, I’m going to want to know if someone has a tendancy to place their junk on sleeping people’s faces.

    =====================================

    Assault – an unlawful physical attack upon another; an attempt or offer to do violence to another.

    I saw the video and as far as I am concerned there was no attack, violence or attempted harm. I personally agree with the guys lawyer, this charge is an insult to real victims of sexual assault. I also don’t agree you should take away a young mans ability to obtain gainful employment over what I see as a harmless prank.

    Additionally I am not a fan of what I see as needless wastes of public resources on frivolous prosecutions and I could care less about how you find a babysitter.

  24. southernpatriots says: May 17, 2012 8:12 PM

    papabush88: The best humor is witty, true, and downright funny. There is no need to quote what you posted because I would be quoting all your posting….so funny! Such is the case with you!

    One of our volunteers went with the young girl to LA a few months ago. She went with several of the nurses who are treating the young girl to go to a Rodeo Drive boutique where they were going to buy the girl something cute and girly. The vulgar scene that several young men made in the boutique made them quite uncomfortable until a mature woman came in the store, saw what the young men were doing and promptly chased them out of the store, aiming a few kicks at their backside as she did so. The mature woman later identified herself–Sharon Stone! She helped these two nurses and this young female volunteer find the perfect gift for the young girl and then visited the young girl at Cedars-Sinai a few days later! You are quite right…there are some really good people in that area!

  25. papabush88 says: May 17, 2012 8:21 PM

    @godfatherd

    No, you’re right. It was consensual. I should’ve gone to law school because I didn’t know that tea bagging was lawful and not physical.

    I’m sure some rapists think they’re making love, and not sexually attacking a victim.

  26. Deb says: May 17, 2012 8:22 PM

    @papabush88 …

    No particular connection to USC, other than having a lot of respect for your program as well as some of your past coaches and players. I grew up in a Bama home, then went to Mizzou for its journalism program. And I’ve been a devoted Steelers fan for 35 years (so I love me some Swan and Polamalu ;) ) As a Steelers fan, I’m used to haters on PFT, but there’s a different vibe on that side. It’s a tough venue, but I get along pretty well with our rivals.

  27. godfatherd says: May 17, 2012 8:32 PM

    @papabush88

    Just because you don’t consent to something does not mean it meets the definition for assault. I don’t always consent when someone touches me in public but that doesn’t mean it’s always assault.

    It’s pretty obvious that you don’t understand the seriousness of the subject. Anyone who has dealt with real rape and sexual assault in their lives would not throw wildly inapplicable analogies about rape around in the manner you have.

  28. papabush88 says: May 17, 2012 8:43 PM

    @godfatherd

    I get what you’re saying. I’m just playing devil’s advocate (maybe angels advocate technically). This LSU kid might actually be pretty humiliated and might actually feel pretty violated. Kozbee made a good point above: what if this 32 year old dude has herpes? He looks like the type that has to pay for sex. Therefore, his chances of having herpes goes up. To me, I agree with you. It’s very different from an older man raping a young girl and using violence, etc. But, I feel like that is not our call. At the end of the day, what this guy did was wrong and pretty disgusting. Kind of like Michael Vick. It’s not like he was killing people. To me, animals are animals. And to me, if you’re capable of rubbing your junk on someone’s face, that’s pretty messed up. The victim/prosecution has every right to try to make the case that he was sexually assaulted.

  29. godfatherd says: May 17, 2012 8:57 PM

    @papabush88

    I understand your point. I simply believe this is a case where recompense should obtained in a civil court, not a criminal one.

  30. southernpatriots says: May 17, 2012 9:05 PM

    godfatherd:

    I have to admit I have been out of the news loop locally for some time now, only now returning. But I think I was told that the victim has filled a lawsuit against the perpetrator, and possibly the standers by who egged him on, as well as the Krystal for its employees just standing there doing nothing. I may be wrong, but I think that is what I heard second or third hand. If that is true the victim is attempting to attempting to avail himself to some civil justice.

    The office of the D.A. here in New Orleans has never let an opportunity like this to pass without trying to capitalize. The D.A. always likes new coverage and pictures in the paper, etc. and here is another opportunity.

  31. papabush88 says: May 17, 2012 9:11 PM

    @godfstherd

    Yeah, I hear ya. Frivolous lawsuits bug the you know what out of me. But there are many way more ridiculous that this one.

  32. Deb says: May 17, 2012 10:01 PM

    Think I may have gotten confused on the embarrassing details of this embarrassing incident. Was thinking Downing never exposed his genitals but just jumped on the victim with his pants on (as if that’s not bad enough). That’s why I made the “pants on–no genitals exposed” reference in the comment about gamers. But based on what some of you have posted, I’m thinking now Downing may have exposed himself during this incident. If that’s the case, please excuse my error.

    Either way, it was a sick thing to do–and it’s a sick thing for gamers to do as well, even in avatar form. Whether or not he consciously thought ot it that way, Downing was engaging in sexual humiliation of an opponent. It’s a centuries-old tradition that shouldn’t be condoned in a civilized society. He’s probably more drunken dork than danger to society at large, but actions have consequences and he’s going to have to pay for his.

  33. papabush88 says: May 18, 2012 12:03 AM

    @Deb

    No.worries, Deb. Yeah, he put his bare skin junk on his head/face.

  34. brutusbuckeye2011 says: May 18, 2012 11:26 AM

    It appears that several people believe the perpetrator should not be prosecuted. In addition, some feel the victim’s lawsuit is frivolous. Sorry, but I totally disagree. Would you feel the same if the victim was your daughter, underage son or you? This was a criminally lewd act. The victim was publically humiliated. Both criminal and civil actions are fully warranted. The pervert who did this should at least receive probation (assuming no other criminal record) and pay compensation.

  35. brutusbuckeye2011 says: May 18, 2012 11:29 AM

    @ southernpatriots
    Where have you been? I thought you gave up on this blog.

  36. Deb says: May 18, 2012 11:53 AM

    @brutusbuckeye2011 …

    I’ve seen one person on this thread argue that this is not comparable to a rape. And as a rape survivor, I concur with his opinion on that. But I haven’t seen anyone here argue that this guy shouldn’t be prosecuted. We have one guy claiming he knows someone who said the guy shouldn’t be prosecuted. But yet here you are saying “It appears that several people believe the perpetrator should not be prosecuted.” Did you even read the thread … or do you people just read a sentence, give it a thumbs down and make your judgments?

    Some guy asked where something like this came from in 2011. I answered that it’s a common practice among gamers and even posted a link. Everyone gave me thumbs down. Well, if you guys don’t want to know what’s going on in the world around you, don’t ask. It’s a nasty world out there. You may like to believe that this thing was invented by some drunk Alabama fan, but it wasn’t. I’ve said from the beginning that I think it was a form of sexual assault and should be prosecuted. But it’s not a rape, and it isn’t something unique to this guy. It’s a ritual move for humiliating a downed opponent. We just didn’t hear of it before now. Click on the link and you’ll see what I’m talking about.

  37. southernpatriots says: May 18, 2012 4:45 PM

    John: as with Ben on the Michigan unis story, the previous entry invades. Note 4:28 PM entry.

  38. John Taylor says: May 18, 2012 5:05 PM

    @southpats: thanks for the heads up.

    What these fools don’t realize is that it takes less than 45 seconds to delete their spam and ban their IP address. To each his own, I guess.

  39. 1990tiger says: May 18, 2012 5:12 PM

    Deb says:
    “Alabama fans raised thousands of dollars to help care for Auburn’s trees after one fool committed a vicious act of vandalism.”

    ==============================

    holy batpoop, Batman….we’re never going to hear the end of this, are we???

    If I may speak for the entire Auburn fanbase, we would have preferred the trees to have never been poisoned in the first place. We would also prefer that a sizable number of Alabama fans not make this “one” fool out to be some kind of hero for doing what he did.

  40. southernpatriots says: May 18, 2012 5:50 PM

    JT: I (and we–our whole family) did not know that either…less than 45 seconds, huh? smile. Knew you and Ben (on the Michigan unis story) would know what to do.

    ..and…just a little kudos your direction. There are few medical facilities we have ever been to as professional and kind as the folks at Cleveland Clinic. They treat these very ill children like their own (as we do). I will be around a few weeks before heading to Cedars-Sinai in LA to visit one of the precious young girls being treated there for cystic fibrosis. ..

    Thanks again.

  41. Deb says: May 18, 2012 6:14 PM

    @1990tiger …

    When I posted that comment, I knew you could be counted on to show up and complain about it. Of course, you wouldn’t know about it if you weren’t being a voyeur on stories about this nasty freak show that doesn’t involve Auburn.

    Let’s be clear: When these sad little trolls post that all Alabama fans are the kind of people who condone poisoning your trees, I will post about the thousands of Alabama fans who did everything possible to make up for the behavior of one deranged individual for whom they were not responsible.

    The sad thing here is that instead of validating my comment by saying, “That’s true. Most of the Alabama fans are decent people,” all you can do is whine and moan that I’m defending our fan base from a scurrilous attack. Maybe you should check that log in your own eye before posting yet another complaint about the splinter in mine. Fortunately, I know that most Auburn fans are decent people who would speak up rather than the kind who’d say they wish no one had contributed to the fund.

  42. Deb says: May 18, 2012 6:16 PM

    And, 1990tiger, I have a lot of friends who are Auburn grads and fans, so I know you and your sad attitude don’t speak for the entire fan base.

  43. John Taylor says: May 18, 2012 6:35 PM

    @southpats: the Cleveland Clinic is an amazing, world-class medical facility. We’re all extremely lucky to have something like that around here.

  44. southernpatriots says: May 18, 2012 8:23 PM

    JT: I know that is very true. There is nothing like it where we work in Appalachia or back home. Wish we had a place like that in both areas.

  45. 1990tiger says: May 18, 2012 10:50 PM

    @Deb-

    I didn’t know there was a rule that allows me to only read and/or comment on articles that directly involve Auburn or be labeled a voyeur……if only you would comply with that “rule” yourself (as it relates to Alabama). Just because I didn’t “validate” your comment, doesn’t mean I am whining or moaning. If anyone is whining, it is you with your unexplainable need to remind everyone over and over and over and over and over and over (and over and over and over and over and over) again about people contributing to help save Auburn’s trees (you always assume the contributions came solely from Bama fans when we don’t know that to be the case).

    I don’t feel the need to attack or defend Bama fans in general. I let their actions speak for themselves. My comments have been directed at your constant reminders about the money raised to help save Auburn’s trees and the way many, though certainly not all, Bama fans have treated UpDick as a celebrity.

    I would bet my last dollar that even your friends who are Auburn grads and/or fans would agree with my “sad attitude” if they knew how many times you have brought up the money raised to help save Auburn’s trees (again, with you crediting Bama fans as the sole contributors).

  46. Deb says: May 18, 2012 11:11 PM

    @1990tiger ….
    :roll: Try to keep up. I don’t have to mention the fund to my friends because they aren’t like jonathans claiming Updyke is indicative of all Alabama fans, or like you claiming most Bama fans find Updyke heroic. I don’t know who contributed to that fund, but it was started and run by Alabama fans trying to make up for the behavior of a single deranged person. Apparently that is a source of great discomfort for you because it disrupts your nonstop hate. I don’t post garbage at your team and have recently been defending Auburn to other people posting garbage. But all you ever do is attack me for defending my own fan base. I’m tired of being the CFT punching bag because I’m a good sport who simply takes up for my own team.

    If you don’t like my posts, skip them, shove them, or go to blue blazes.

    I.

    Don’t.

    Care.

  47. 1990tiger says: May 19, 2012 12:05 AM

    @Deb

    You make a LOT of assumptions about people when you personally attack them. I have no hate for Bama fans (or people/things, in general). I don’t care for some people/things but I wouldn’t say I “hate” them.

    I know for certain that I have never said the teabagger or Updick were representative of all Bama fans. Nor have I have ever claimed that most Bama fans find UpDick heoric. I have always said many seem to treat him like a celebrity. There is a big difference between the terms most and many. I have never posted “garbage” about your team(s) or insulted you personally; however, you can’t make the same claim. When I first joined this forum, many of your posts were directed towards Auburn, Cam Newton, how the FBI was “investigating” Auburn and Auburn boosters for “illegal activity” and how it was only a matter of time before indictments would be issued issued (I paraphrase). Any recollection of those posts?

    I don’t believe I’ve ever insulted or attacked you personally, yet you always feel the need to hurl personal insults at me and others on this forum when you don’t agree with my/our posts. Of course, you like to sugarcoat your insults with endearing terms such as “honey”, “sugar”, “sweety”, “dear”, “snookums” (ok, maybe not that one), etc. Just because I point out that you frequently post about the contributions, doesn’t mean I am attacking you.

    You tell me to skip your posts, shove them (nice), or go to blue blazes (again with the sugarcoating) yet you are unable to follow your own advice when it comes to my posts or the posts of others that you don’t like?

  48. suprmous says: May 19, 2012 12:39 AM

    Welcome back to the jungle southernpatriots. Good to see a friendly face thats been on a mission. Commendations to you and all that worked so hard in helpin others out. Just wanted to say hey and welcome back. So hey and you already got your welcome back,hahaha.

  49. southernpatriots says: May 19, 2012 2:31 AM

    suprmous: Thank you for the welcome. You are very kind. I will only be back a short time for R & R until I will leave again for Memphis, St. Louis, Cleveland, and LA to visit with some of the young patients our team sent to hospitals there. Cytic fibrosis is such an isidious disease. The young woman at Cedars-Sinai in LA was in a coma all day yesterday. She came out late last evening so I have been up monitoring her progress. They cannot give her a double lung transplant operation unless and until she is better. With her disease, it will take something akin to a miracle for her to be that much better. It appears from discussions with her doctors that a double lung transplant is the only hope she has.

    I know you keep a hand on the pulse of things football at LSU. Zach is a healthy young man with great strength and durability. However, it appears that the LSU coaching staff may not be giving Rivers much practice, trying to build Zach up to speed quickly for SEC play. Nothing can really replace game situations and taking snaps. Miles is not much forthgoing about this situation, though he was asked by sports reporters recently. He answered with his typical reply that I don’t quite understand.

    Children of some of our team went by the Krystal where this incident took place. Krystal employees said that condiments, napkins, and other things that “were not bolted down” are being removed for souvenirs by visiting customers. The assistant manager is reportedly having to order 6 times the normal supplies just to keep the supplies in stock. There are some sick people out there.

  50. southernpatriots says: May 19, 2012 2:45 AM

    brutusbuckeye2011:

    You posted: “@ southernpatriots
    Where have you been? I thought you gave up on this blog.”

    I have been away from home and thus CFT, working with dentists, doctors, nurses, and many others in our annual Appalachian outreach. This year it was extended extra months due to the number of children assisted, and some very serious illnesses of which some were diagnosed. Some of the children are now at St. Jude’s, St. Louis Children’s, Cleveland Clinic, and Cedars-Sinai.

    Not giving up on CFT. On some posters, maybe, but not CFT. Thanks for the query and concern.

  51. Deb says: May 19, 2012 2:53 AM

    No, 1990tiger, you’ve never slammed me for mentioning that fund when others smeared the entired Alabama fan base over Updyke, nor have you claimed Alabama fans find him heroic. That was all my imagination. Oops.

    1990tiger says:
    Jan 21, 2012 2:43 AM
    Deb says:
    People love to talk about the nut tree poisoner but forget the Bama fans that raised $50,000 for the care and/or replacement of Auburn’s trees.
    ===================================
    You are really getting some mileage out of that donation aren’t you?. While it was a thoughtful gesture, the generosity of it diminishes somewhat when pictures surface of Bama fans treating Updick like a celebrity in NOLA.

    *****************************************

    1990tiger says:
    Jan 25, 2012 11:13 PM
    Guess who I am?

    Hi, nice to meet you. My name is ____. Did you know Bama fans gave Auburn $50K to save their trees? You didn’t? Well, they did. Bama fans saved Auburn University by giving them $50K to save their trees. In fact, Bama fans went without food for weeks just so they could give Auburn $50K to save their trees. My understanding is that they almost had to close the University down until Bama fans dug deep and gave Auburn $50K. Really, my understanding is that the entire town of Auburn almost went bankrupt until Bama fans sent $50K to Auburn. … Yada Yada Yada

    ******************************

    1990tiger says:
    Jan 18, 2012 1:20 AM

    I’m not suggesting that all Bama fans are idiots but they really should make an effort to police their own….instead of treating them like celebrities when one of them does something stupid (think Harvey Updick in New Orleans) if they want to distance themselves from the actions of those types of fans.

    *******************************************

    1990tiger says:
    May 18, 2012 5:12 PM
    Deb says:
    “Alabama fans raised thousands of dollars to help care for Auburn’s trees after one fool committed a vicious act of vandalism.”
    ==============================
    holy batpoop, Batman….we’re never going to hear the end of this, are we???

    If I may speak for the entire Auburn fanbase, we would have preferred the trees to have never been poisoned in the first place. We would also prefer that a sizable number of Alabama fans not make this “one” fool out to be some kind of hero for doing what he did.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    But no, like all the other angels posting on CFT, you’ve never done anything wrong. It was all me. I’m a demon from hell who has never done a good thing in my life but lives to attack the innocent on the football blog, and all you heaven-sent cherubs have just been protecting yourselves and one another from that nasty ogre Deb. Uh-huh.

    I envy you all your fantasy lives. If I could invent like that I’d be the next J.K. Rowling.

  52. Deb says: May 19, 2012 2:57 AM

    @southernpatriots …

    Yes, after defending nonstop and supporting nonstop only to have people treat me like dirt, ridicule my sick parents, organize gangs to come on en masse and harass me, I’ve given up on some commenters as well. All I ever did to you was express disappointment that you’d embrassed suprmous and lady whatever when they were behaving like shrews to me after all the times I’d defended you. That was it. That was all. What you allowed Tigersgeaux and others to do do me and say about my parents was unconscionable. You can brag all you want about whatever you’re doing to save the world. But that gang-bang you organized to someone who’d done nothing but befriend, defend, and support you was evil. And God knows it. Now LEAVE ME ALONE.

  53. Deb says: May 19, 2012 3:01 AM

    Sorry, that should have been “embraced.” Yes, I get it. LSU is thicker than friendship. You’d think having dozens of people strike out at me on your behalf would have been enough. Apparently not. Interesting how you thought I was so great when that wit and sharp tongue was going to work on your behalf.

  54. 1990tiger says: May 19, 2012 10:37 AM

    @Deb-

    You just don’t get it, do you? Read my posts again. None of them are personal attacks (or “slams”) against you or Bama fans.

    Now, read your posts (not just those directed at me….pick just about any one of your posts directed at someone with whom you have a disagreement). They are full of personal attacks and insults.

    Get it now??

  55. Deb says: May 19, 2012 1:08 PM

    @1990tiger …

    I have made more mistakes on this blog than a calculator could compute. That doesn’t mean the rest of you are innocents.

    When someone attacks my team or fanbase, I strike back. So do you. But calling someone generic names like “hon,” or “baby,” or even “idiot” is hardly comparable to making deelpy personal attacks. I’ve had people who claimed to be my friends try to analyze my personality, to tell me how I feel, and what I think, to tell me over and over how everyone hates me (when just within the last few days other commenters here have posted admiration for my comments, my sportsmanship, and my character). They’ve ridiculed my faith, my sick parents, even claimed I’ve posted inappropriate things to young men on this site.

    If you had one ounce of personal integrity, you’d know that I have never “attacked” you all in that way. I’ve talked smack: baby, honey, idiot. And I never did even that to southernpatriots. A couple of shrews started hollering at me, and I gave a super embarrasing dose of shrew right back. But then my friends that I’d defended repeatedly started posting to those strangers like they were old buddies It was hurtful, and I said so. Saying so launched a 7-month campaign by dozens of people to drive me off the blog. That’s not my imagination because others have commented on it. And it does leave one kind of touchy.

    Yeah, I should ignore it and not post over-the-top screeching replies at 3 a.m. when someone tries to push my buttons. That inability to ignore the baiting is all on me.

    As for you … try standing in my shoes a moment. Imagine feeling you had to constantyhad defend your family, friends, and fellow fans because of Downing, Updyke, and the few nuts that think they’re swell? Wouldn’t you be grasping for every positive example you could give about your fanbase? Don’t be so high and mighty, 1990tiger. Listen to talk radio sometime. Just as many Updyke and Downing types support Auburn as Alabama. You could easily find yourself in my shoes one day. And it’s tough enough with out you showing up every single time I’m trying to speak for the good things our people have done to take me to the woodshed over mentioning that fund.

    Get it now?

  56. brutusbuckeye2011 says: May 19, 2012 1:20 PM

    @ Deb:
    One way to solve the problem would be to retire your screen name of Deb and come up with a new one.

  57. Deb says: May 19, 2012 2:18 PM

    @brutusbuckeye2011 …

    Thank you, that’s a positive suggestion, but it’s not my way. I am who I am and imagine people would see through a name change pretty fast. And I’ve been on PFT/CFT since long before these folks and actually have a lot of positive support on the pro side under that name. Besides, I’m a take-your-lumps kinda gal. I’ve brought a lot of this on myself by reacting when I should have ignored. That 3 a.m. rant being a prime example. As I said about Brian Downing, actions have consequences. I’ll live with mine and try to work on my shortcomings.

    However, while I’ll try to handle myself better, I’ll always continue to post honestly. Although I’ve never liked Ohio State, I defended your team during the Tressel situation. Although they’re a rival, I defended LSU during the Jefferson Jordan situation. To me, that’s good sportsmanship–focusing on the issue, not the team.

    Unfortunately, the one thing people have the hardest time forgiving is that I defend Alabama and do it well. If they repeatedly post that Saban is a liar and Les Miles is a saint … well, at some point, I’m going to post a video of Les lying. That doesn’t go over well. In the end, persistently challenging the LSU majority created most of my problems. If I’d bowed to the Bama and Saban bashing, there’d have been no arguments to get out of hand in the first place.

  58. 1990tiger says: May 19, 2012 9:51 PM

    Deb says:

    @1990tiger …

    “If you had one ounce of personal integrity…..”

    “Don’t be so high and mighty, 1990tiger…”

    ===================================

    I couldn’t have made the point I was trying to make in my earlier post any better than you just did.

  59. Deb says: May 19, 2012 10:54 PM

    @1990tiger …

    Thank you for reading the entire post with an open mind. You made my point as well.

  60. papabush88 says: May 19, 2012 11:07 PM

    I side with Deb. For two reasons: 1.) She is pretty fair most of the time. 2.) I have 1,000 times more respect for Alabama than I do for auburn or LSU.

    I’ll also admit my ignorance to the conflict at hand. No idea what you’re arguing about. However, you should be drinking right now…I am.

  61. Deb says: May 20, 2012 12:16 AM

    @papabush88 …

    You made me laugh … which is what we all should be doing :D The world is too serious for all this. Thank you.

  62. suprmous says: May 20, 2012 1:28 AM

    southernpatriots, if that “LA” is Lower Alabama I’ll leave ladyhuckleberry’s addy with you and you can tell her to get up with me cause I’d love to help you and the others out anyway I can. Granted I haven’t birthed any babies lately but my old boss says once you do it you never forget,haha. When I asked if he wasn’t talkin bout ridin a bicycle he kinda sorta smiled and said guess you could do that too. But anywho’s and what’s ever may be I’d love to help out anyway I can.

  63. southernpatriots says: May 20, 2012 10:21 AM

    suprmous:

    No children in south Alabama at this time, but children are being treated at St. Jude’s, Cleveland Clinic, Cedars Sinai at LA (Los Angeles), Children’s Hospital of Philly and Boston, and other hospitals. We are hoping perhaps to have some children, as situations are appropriate, to come to our fine Children’s Hospital of New Orleans.

    Speaking about not forgetting. I think I know more now than I did when I was just starting out, but maybe a step or three slower.

    By the way, the LSU baseball team won another SEC championship last evening. 14th, I think. Most in the conference. Now for the tournament and then back to Omaha! That is always fun. They love Cajun food at the College World Series, so if we go, I have to bring our ensemble.

    LSU’s football team and coaching staff will be taking a tour of the children’s wards of hospitals over the next couple of weeks. If I am still local, I will meet with them in NO, if not then in BR later in the summer.

    It is sad the kind of attention that this incident in NO is getting from visitors and tourists. It is one thing to visit the tomb of the Voodoo Queen of NO, Marie Laveau, but to visit a fast food restaurant made famous by this incident? That is too strange to me.

    On to church, for the family and I, and then meeting with LSU alums afterwards for lunch. By the way, my late sainted mother was a nurse, trained and worked at Our Lady of the Lake Hospital and Nursing School, and greatly influenced my choice of a profession and life’s work. From her we also saw a great desire to help others, especially “the least of these” (as she called them, following the description of Jesus)which the whole family continues to this day.

  64. kozbee says: May 20, 2012 12:21 PM

    Well Brian Downing when court is all over you will be watched like the criminal that you are/sex offender.Anyone can go to a sex offender list and look at the new retard in Alabama.Was it worth rubbing up against another man and then being as stupid as you look to place it on youtube.Isn`t that what updyke did to get the Bama nation to see what a fool he and you were at the time saying see what i did to a loser to another school or a winner of another team.What i can see happen that other fans from Bama or all schools get to see you and Updyke as cell mates.At night when the lights go way down low you can feel Harvey UP/dyke rub across your face a few times and you might start to enjoy it as much as you did the night with the LSU fan.Enjoy your new life of doing a dumb thing as i will call you the dumbest of fans,a fan as you and Updyke is what gives a school a bad name.

  65. Deb says: May 20, 2012 12:26 PM

    southernpatriots, I commend the many good works you do. Volunteering with those in need is an integral part of our family life as well, and something in which I’ve been active since childhood. It’s just not something I’m comfortable routinely posting on a football blog.

  66. suprmous says: May 21, 2012 4:06 AM

    southernpatriots, got what you’re sayin loud and clear. Bless your ma ma for teachin you what she did bout helpin others. The chilens of the areas you’ve been to can be thankful that you were there to help em. As for what’s goin on in Nawlins; I only hope that the Commish has to apologize publically to the entire Country as well as the Big Easy for what hes accused some of, knowin there’s no evidence. I got a funny feelin if she could Marie Leveau would take care of all the ugly messes within the Great State of Louisiana. Just a shame her granddaughter doesn’t carry on the tradition. But who knows what this comin football season will bring to all of us concerned? Take care mon ami and keep up the good work.

  67. alligatorsnapper says: May 24, 2012 10:44 PM

    southernpatriots:

    Good Dr., lost my cell fishing near Fort Polk.

    Hope your sister and inlaw doing much better.

    How’s the NW? Please call.

  68. tigersgeaux says: Jun 25, 2012 11:48 PM

    Deb is a bitter, vindictive, and petty Tide heifer who claims to go to church twice on Sunday. Deb brings up her rape whenever she desires sympathy, ridicules a family of public servants who post here on CFT for helping a Tide fan at the BCS game in N.O. and then supporting Tiger fans (is she also bi-polar?).

    Deb profanely and vulgarly accuses them and others of “gang banging” her when she is supposed to be a Christian and word smith but reverts to such postings even when she is not even spoken of or spoken to as she did in this thread/blog. Deb falsely accuses southernpatriots of “skulking” (or something similar) when all family members were either in Appalachia with no access to the Internet/CFT or in ICU where they also had no access to the Internet /CFT.

    Deb falsely accuses LSU fans of any manner of evil. Deb falsely accuses alligatorsnapper and tigersgeaux as well as any others she can name. Deb needs to start paying attention to the messages her pastor or priest delivers in the services she attends twice on Sunday. Deb needs to go to her minister and ask for deliverance. Her conscience should bother her but apparently she has seared it with a hot iron.

    Take you own advice Deb. Don’t speak again about or to southernpatriots or alligatorsnapper or tigersgeaux or any other fan of LSU or other teams and conferences you have attacked. Deb is bitter and vindictive. Deb is a false accuser (liar) many times over. Deb has run more people away from CFT than she has ever brought to CFT.

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