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FSU board chairman maintains there’s been no contact with Big 12

Andy Haggard

Two weeks after setting off a firestorm by both blasting his school’s current conference and openly flirting with another, Florida State’s Board of Trustees chairman continues to insist there’s been no contact with the Big 12.

He again, though, left no doubt that FSU is willing to listen if anyone’s willing to pick up the phone and make a call.

“We have not heard a thing and we have not approached them and they have not approached us,” Andy Haggard, the chair of FSU’s board, told the Tallahassee Democrat. “If anybody approaches us, we are certainly going to listen to them. We have an obligation to Florida State to listen. You can’t close the door.”

Ex-Seminoles linebacker and former FSU board trustee Derrick Brooks had previously stated that “as far as I know, the Big 12 reached out to us.”  Haggard, FSU president Eric Barron and at least two officials connected to the Big 12 have all previously denied any discussions at any level with each other.

The latest denial of contact from a high-ranking FSU official comes ahead of the start of the Big 12’s annual meetings this week in Kansas City.  Certainly the topic of expansion will come up at some point during the meetings, although it appears there’s no consensus among the current membership to add to its current 10-member league.

In addition to FSU, current ACC members Clemson and Miami have been connected to speculation involving the Big 12.  The former has publicly stated it would be willing to listen to overtures from other conferences, while the latter, at least publicly, remains committed to the ACC.

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24 Responses to “FSU board chairman maintains there’s been no contact with Big 12”
  1. indywvu says: May 29, 2012 7:58 AM

    C’mon Big 12 and FSU…let’s make this happen!

  2. charles130 says: May 29, 2012 8:15 AM

    I bet the Big 12 feels dumb now for grabbing WVU in a desperate attempt to get to 10 at all costs when FSU is willing to listen.

  3. mountaineer50415 says: May 29, 2012 8:15 AM

    Considering this is a one sided conversation, it doesn’t look too promising. Why is FSU sounding so desperate? Hopefully the Big 12 will think about that before they make an offer.
    Too much I do not want to move, however, type talk from FSU. The only thing coming out of the Big 12 is that they are not looking at this time.
    It is quite upsetting to constantly hear nothing in different words. Someone needs to say no thank you or come on down. Which is it?

  4. marlon12560 says: May 29, 2012 10:08 AM

    No invitations are going to go out to any school until after june 15th when new commish takes on new big 12 position. It will have to happen before August 15 as that is when any team in the ACC has to notify league. My guess is that something will happen before July 15th.

  5. mountaineer50415 says: May 29, 2012 10:30 AM

    I sure do hope so. Guess I am the only one who hates hearing, over and over again, how no one has contacted anyone. Maybe we could hear about it when it happens, and not until.
    I would like to hear about things that have happened. That is if it is about college football.
    I do not want to hear about advertisements either. I do not trust advertisements where people make thousands of dollars doing nothing. What a crock.
    This is a football blog, not a space for people to con other people.

  6. deadeye says: May 29, 2012 11:18 AM

    When conferences and universities really aren’t talking, neither one bothers to mention it.

    When conferences and universities really are talking, they both vigorously deny it.

    There’s to much smoke here. Clemson has essentially said they are willing to listen to offers. FSU is now essentially saying they are willing to listen to offers. Bowden is saying it would be a mistake to leave the ACC. Golden is defending the TV deal that the ACC claims is just fine. The SEC/BIG12 bowl game is a clear signal that the SEC believes the BIG12 is stronger than the ACC, both on the football field AND as a viable conference.

    These are all signals that something is going on beneath the surface. A big wave of realignment is about to take place…

  7. Deb says: May 29, 2012 11:51 AM

    Actually, it’s an interesting story taken in the context of the Big 12’s annual meeting this week.

    It sounds as though some Seminoles boosters and/or Board members–though not necessarily anyone connected with the Athletic Department–want to move to the Big 12. So they manufactured a rumor that the Big 12 had approached them. (“Derrick Brooks had previously stated that ‘as far as I know, the Big 12 reached out to us.'”)

    Except the Big 12 didn’t reach out to them. But just saying so, allowed them to deny talking with the Big 12, … while saying in a thousand different ways how much they’d love, love, love to get that opportunity.

    With the Big 12 meeting in KC this week, it’s like FSU has texted naked pictures to the band before the concert begging to be the girl who gets that backstage call. Now we just wait to see whether the Big 12 takes the bait.

  8. halbert53 says: May 29, 2012 12:52 PM

    Locking up the TV rights assignments ensures the Big 12 will survive. Big 12 is a high quality conference, a close second to the SEC. Adding teams from the ACC will greatly help TV revenue. The top 5-6 teams in the Big 12 are neck and neck with their SEC counterparts, the SEC has more depth and numbers. But, because of the quality of the existing Big 12 members, new members are not going to immediately be the same quality. Clemson, FSU and Miami are underachieving ACC teams and switching conferences won’t overnight make them better programs. If they can regain their status from their heydays, then a Big 12 East division would be an exceptionally strong division. Plus, if they are smart, have Big 12 East teams play a SEC West team in regular season, and have Big 12 West play SEC East teams in regular season. Such games would be big draws at the gate and on TV.

  9. jsmayer181 says: May 29, 2012 2:15 PM

    Why isn’t VA Tech getting any love as a possibility for the Big XII alongside FSU? I know the hot rumor is that VA Tech will eventually join the SEC with NC State (yes, Clay Travis, we know you’ve been all over that for at least a year) but who knows when/if Mike Silve will come knocking on Blacksburg’s door. VPI has a lot less invested in the ACC than Clemson and is honestly a lot more attractive a football program (not to mention a better cultural fit) than the U. Plus, they become a natural travel partner and restore an old rivalry with WV.

  10. mountaineer50415 says: May 29, 2012 2:34 PM

    I have to admit I would like to have Virginia Tech a lot more than FSU. I am just tired of hearing what FSU wants and no reply from the Big 12. Really would like to know soon. I would also like to have at least a year playing the teams that are in the Big 12 at the moment.
    Adding one or two more teams could mess up a lot of plans for the near future. If they dicide to add more teams they should come up with at least six more. That would give eight teams on each side and leave room for more OOC games. Then we could maybe do some of what jsmayer181 says. Possible schools: Va Tech, Clemson, FSU, Cincinnati, N.D. and Louisville.
    Maybe, we could plan on that in a year or two. Way too soon for now. Deb, it would be nice if we could just wait and see. One thing though, you are funny. Really great sinse of humor.

  11. halbert53 says: May 29, 2012 2:45 PM

    What is going on with VA Tech is they are hoping for an SEC invite. SEC has a strategic plan for expansion to reach 16 teams: NC and Duke (to bolster bkb tv revenue) is first choice but wouldn’t happen unless Big 12 raids ACC; VA Tech and NC State make sense from fb standpoint. Big 12 can add 6 teams, but until they bust the ACC with Clemson, FSU, GA Tech and Miami, VA Tech is unlikely to get off the pot. Four teams leaving ACC would force NC and Duke to choose between SEC and Big 10; if they choose Big 10, SEC would go after NC State and VA Tech. I agree VA Tech would be a logical travel partner for WVU, which is why it won’t happen for a while if at all. Big 10 and Big 12 won’t to keep two slots open in hopes of getting ND and another team.

  12. wvuwhitey says: May 29, 2012 10:02 PM

    [RE: charles130 says: May 29, 2012 8:15 AM
    I bet the Big 12 feels dumb now for grabbing WVU in a desperate attempt to get to 10 at all costs when FSU is willing to listen.]

    Huh? ANOTHER one that doubts WVU’s attraction…..SO what program ( FSU orWVU) has won 3 BCS games in the last 6 years ….hint, it wasn’t FSU. Each time WVU was underdogs, just like your insinuation but are 3-0 in BCS games, and they were dominated by WVU (however with a late surge by Georgia in 2006)
    Oh and FSU? They aren’t what the used to be and are living on fairly long ago past success. FSU is 1-5 in BCS games, only 3 conference titles in last 10 years in a VERY lame football conference (the ACC BCS Bowl record is 2-13 and have not had an overall winning bowl record since 2006) , so don’t even start about how “weak” the Big East was (BCS record is 7-7, with 4 of the losses by current or so to be ACC teams). In fact, by the end of the 2010 season the Big East had the best record verses the SEC than ANY other conference, and it was a WINNING record while others were by far losing records vs the SEC. Facts…not out dated opinions. So 2 bad seasons and it was enough to destroy the BE conference….hmmm…then you better take note ACC.

    WVU: The past ten seasons have yielded a 95-33 record since 2002, ten bowl games, won six Big East Conference titles, along with the three BCS bowl game victories. As of the 2012 season, West Virginia is one of only three FBS programs to have won at least nine games in each of the past seven seasons, and its 95 victories between 2002–2011 rank 8th amongst FBS programs.

  13. warunk53 says: May 29, 2012 10:44 PM

    This is for wvuwhitey

    1950 FSU 19 – Wofford 6 Cigar Bowl
    1954 Texas Western 47 – FSU 20 Sun Bowl
    1958 Oklahoma State 15 – FSU 6 Bluegrass Bowl
    1965 FSU 36 – Oklahoma 19 Gator Bowl
    1966 Wyoming 28 – FSU 20 Sun Bowl
    1967 FSU 17 – Penn State 17 Gator Bowl
    1968 LSU 31 – FSU 21 Peach Bowl
    1971 Arizona State 45 – FSU 38 Fiesta Bowl
    1977 FSU 40 – Texas Tech 17 Tangerine Bowl
    1979 Oklahoma 24 – FSU 7 Orange Bowl
    1980 Oklahoma 18 – FSU 17 Orange Bowl
    1981
    1982 FSU 31 – West Virgina 12 Gator Bowl
    1983 FSU 28 – North Carolina 3 Peach Bowl
    1984 FSU 17 – Georiga 17 Citrus Bowl
    1985 FSU 34 – Oklahoma State 23 Gator Bowl
    1986 FSU 27 – Indiana 13 All-American Bowl
    1987 FSU 31 – Nebraska 28 Fiesta Bowl
    1988 FSU 13 – Auburn 7 Sugar Bowl
    1989 FSU 41 – Nebraska 17 Fiesta Bowl
    1990 FSU 24 – Penn St. 17 Blockbuster Bowl
    1991 FSU 10 – Texas A&M 2 Cotton Bowl
    1992 FSU 27 – Nebraska 14 Orange Bowl
    1993 FSU 18 – Nebraska 16 Orange Bowl *National Champions*
    1994 FSU 23 – Florida 17 Sugar Bowl
    1995 FSU 31 – Notre Dame 26 Orange Bowl
    1996 Florida 52 – FSU 20 Sugar Bowl
    1997 FSU 31 – Ohio State 14 Sugar Bowl
    1998 Tennessee 23 – FSU 16 Fiesta Bowl
    1999 FSU 46 – Virginia Tech 29 Sugar Bowl *National Champions*
    2000 Oklahoma 13 – FSU 2 Orange Bowl
    2001 FSU 30 – Virginia Tech 7 Gator Bowl
    2002 Georiga 26 – FSU 13 Sugar Bowl
    2003 Miami 16 – FSU 14 Orange Bowl
    2004 FSU 30 – West Virginia 18 Gator Bowl
    2005 Penn State 26 – FSU 23 (3 OT) Orange Bowl
    2006 FSU 44 – UCLA 27 Emerald Bowl
    2007 Kentucky 35 – FSU 28 Music City Bowl
    2008 FSU 42 – 13 Wisconsin Champs Bowl
    2009 FSU 33 – 21 West Virginia Gator Bowl
    2010 FSU 26 – 17 South Carolina Chick-Fil-A Bowl
    2011 FSU 18 – 14 Notre Dame Champs Sports Bowl

    my advice for you is to stick to the facts and stay out of the Gator Bowl with FSU…..

  14. wvuwhitey says: May 29, 2012 10:51 PM

    So did you read what I said? In the last 10 years. Get over the past and your lame Gator Bowls and all tho other minor bowl wins (and loses)….know one cares about those “recent” wins in those games. Your record(s) lately (last 10 years…oh thats a decade btw) are not impressive. My facts ARE facts. Get over it.

  15. wvuwhitey says: May 29, 2012 11:00 PM

    In other words, having the FSU of the past, like before 2000, joining another conference WOULD be a big gain for the conference. But now, its just past prestige and the FSU money that is the attraction . Bobby Bowden (a former WVU coach as well) said “its would be better for FSU to stay in the ACC to get a chance at the National Championship…presumably because they play easier teams and better chance to win them all. Stay in the All Cupcake Conference….please! We would take Va Tech over ANY day over any other school from that league….by FAR!

  16. mountaineer50415 says: May 30, 2012 9:55 AM

    to warunk53:
    Do you really think that winning the gator bowl gives you a great resume? I do not believe that anyone in the Big 12, SEC, or the Pack 12 really begins with the hope of getting into the gator bowl. We hope to be in the NC, if not, then at least in a BCS bowl or what ever they call it year after next. We would gladly give you the gator bowl, if you can do well enough to be asked there. Bobby Bowden is not there anymore, thus you will not go there just because of him. You will have to earn it. Our new coach does not let the players stop playing after getting 21 points. So go ahead and hang onto the past. Whatever makes you happy. But I do not believe it can help you with a future.

  17. kozbee says: May 30, 2012 7:12 PM

    Y`all in WV are you watching the Hatfields & Mccoys on the History Channel ?

  18. warunk53 says: May 30, 2012 10:45 PM

    The only mention of the Gator Bowl was because of Wussy VA…..FSU has own them….so you want to compare the ACC vs the Big EASY……your Muttingears are about to get a real taste of football…welcome to the SEC.

  19. warunk53 says: May 30, 2012 10:50 PM

    How many BCS Bowls has WV been too? Just curious…….

    West Virginia bowl history
    SEASON BOWL RESULT
    2009 Gator Florida State 33, West Virginia 21
    2008 Meineke Car Care West Virginia 31, North Carolina 30
    2007 Fiesta West Virginia 48, Oklahoma 28
    2006 Gator West Virginia 38, Georgia Tech 35
    2005 Sugar West Virginia 38, Georgia 35
    2004 Gator Florida State 30, West Virginia 18
    2003 Gator Maryland 41, West Virginia 7
    2002 Continental Tire Virginia 48, West Virginia 22
    2000 Music City West Virginia 49, Mississippi 38
    1998 Insight.com Missouri 34, West Virginia 31
    1997 Carquest Georgia Tech 35, West Virginia 30
    1996 Gator North Carolina 20, West Virginia 13
    1994 Carquest South Carolina 24, West Virginia 21
    1993 Sugar Florida 41, West Virginia 7
    1989 Gator Clemson 27, West Virginia 7
    1988 Fiesta Notre Dame 34, West Virginia 21
    1987 Sun Oklahoma State 35, West Virginia 33
    1984 Bluebonnet West Virginia 31, TCU 14
    1983 Hall of Fame West Virginia 20, Kentucky 16
    1982 Gator Florida State 31, West Virginia 12
    1981 Peach West Virginia 26, Florida 6
    1975 Peach West Virginia 13, North Carolina State 10
    1972 Peach North Carolina State 49, West Virginia 13
    1969 Peach West Virginia 14, South Carolina 3
    1964 Liberty Utah 32, West Virginia 6
    1953 Sugar Georgia Tech 42, West Virginia 19
    1948 Sun West Virginia 21, Texas Western 12
    1937 Sun West Virginia 7, Texas Tech 6
    1922 East-West West Virginia 21, Gonzaga 13

  20. warunk53 says: May 30, 2012 10:55 PM

    I want to make sure I give you all of your credit…

    2010 Champs Sports N.C. State 7-23 L
    2011 Orange Clemson 70-33 W

    Enjoy them….going be a long hard ride in the SEC

  21. wvuwhitey says: May 31, 2012 3:52 AM

    Hey Warunk53. You are kind of stupid aren’t you? You obviously can’t read and you can’t even figure out what conference WVU is now a member WVU is in the Big 12 (the second toughest conference), not the SEC (the toughest conference), which I wrote earlier that the Big East had up to 2010 a winning record head to head in football, and still has the best percentage of winning head to head than any conference. PLUS I wrote (try to keep up here) about the last 10 years of WVU and FSU. You must be so mad they we dropped you off the schedule this year that you can’t even read.

  22. wvuwhitey says: May 31, 2012 4:22 AM

    Oh warunk53, to answer your BCS question (again you are not reading because I listed this all above): WVU is 3-0 in the BCS bowl games….WVU has been to THREE BCS games in the last SIX years and won them all, two of them weren’t even close….wiped out your ACC champion 70-33 in this years Orange Bowl, thumped the Big 12 Champion Oklahoma in the 2008 Fiesta Bowl and had a large lead over the SEC Champion Georgia in the 2006 Sugar Bowl but got close at the end, still won.
    Oh some more facts: WVU is the only school that has been in at least 3 BCS bowls and undefeated in those games. WVU also is tied for 5th in all time wins in the BCS bowl games.
    FSU has been to the BCS bowl games 6 times and lost 5 of them (only win was in 2000 …12 years ago). Really sad. Oh and the ACC has a 2-13 BCS record while the Big East has had a 7-7 record in the BCS.
    See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowl_Championship_Series . Oops, I keep forgetting you can’t read.
    You should stop embarrassing yourself here with dumb comments. I will have to stop now because I am not a special education teacher and might hurt your feelings.

  23. wvuwhitey says: May 31, 2012 4:32 AM

    Oh and before the comments fly: yes, I am a terrible at checking my spelling and grammar here and on any bulletin board, chat, etc…fat finger typing typos as well. But I can still read and comprehend adequately. I wish you well in your reading difficulties warunk53

  24. Deb says: May 31, 2012 12:37 PM

    @kozbee …

    I’m watching that–love anything that even vaguely resembles a Western :) It’s been great. But they filmed it in Romania.

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