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Alvarez: Tide turned down shot at series with Badgers

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For those that love to take shots at the various delectable cream puffs that litter the non-conference schedules of some SEC schools, here’s another (very tiny) opening for you.

In a report over the weekend from the Wisconsin State Journal regarding Wisconsin’s efforts to beef-up its own pastry-like out-of-conference slate, UW athletic director Barry Alvarez acknowledged that, as part of that effort, that there had been conversations with Alabama about a future game or games.

The initial offer, which the State Journal writes was orchestrated by ESPN, was a for a neutral site game between UW and UA, similar to Alabama’s game this season at Dallas Cowboys Stadium against another Big Ten school, Michigan.  When the neutral site option was rebuffed, Badgers head coach Bret Bielema countered with an offer of a straight home-and-home series.

According to the paper, Tide head coach Nick Saban declined.  No reason was given by Alvarez for the Tide’s decision to rebuff the Badgers’ advances.

It should be noted that, in addition to the Michigan game this year and the home-and-home series with Penn State in 2010 and 2011, the Tide has future home-and-homes/one-offs scheduled against Virginia Tech (2013), West Virginia (2014), Michigan State (2016 and 2017) and Georgia Tech (2019 and 2020).

Because the recently-revamped postseason is expected to include strength of schedule as one of the factors in the selection committee’s process for determining the four-team playoff field, Alvarez stressed that “if you want to be a player” in the revamped hunt for a national championship, “then you really have to consider” changing the way schools fill their future schedules.

That said, Alvarez declined to absolutely commit to beefing up the non-conference slates, if for nothing more than the fact that, given the stature of his current conference, he feels comfortable that the Badgers would be where they’d need to be on the national scene if they can come out of league play unscathed.

“If we take care of our business in our league, we’ll be where we need to be,” he said. “You go undefeated in our league, you’re going to be in the top four in the country. You win our league championship, you’re going to be in the top four.”

(Tip O’ the Cap: al.com)

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  1. thekatman says: Jul 3, 2012 6:07 PM

    So let’s see here.
    Alabama won’t shcedule a home/home series with Wisconsin because of what? Schedule? How about becasue of the strength of schedule issue.
    Alabama needs to play 3 OOC games against cupcake schools…

    Alabama Future Non-Conference Opponents – 2012+

    2012

    •09/01 – Michigan (at Arlington, TX) – good game
    •09/08 – Western Kentucky – cupcake
    •09/22 – Florida Atlantic – cupcake
    •11/17 – Western Carolina – cupcake

    2013
    •08/31 – VA Tech (at Atlanta, GA) – good game
    •11/23 – Chattanooga – cupcake

    Seems there’s plenty of room for a potentially great game against a top 25 WI team.

    Perhaps Saban and company are waiting out the 2014 playoff season to see how the new rules regarding strength of schedule will turn out.

    Probably not.

  2. mountaineer50415 says: Jul 3, 2012 7:24 PM

    to the katman:
    So you are saying that if Nick Saban does not play Wisconsin, they have no chance of playing anything but cupcakes.
    Wow. Wisconsin thinks they are ok just with conference wins, but you think Alabama needs Wisconsin. What a fruit loop. Alabama needs Nick Saban, not Wisconsin. Nick Saban can choose who he wants to play outside of the SEC. Get use to it. If Wisconsin doesn’t have to worry about their schedule, no one does.

  3. westlaw1 says: Jul 3, 2012 7:37 PM

    So let’s see here.
    Wisconsin hasn’t scheduled a home/home series with an SEC because of what? Schedule? How about because of the strength of schedule issue.
    Wisconsin needs to play 4 OOC games against cupcake schools…

    Wisconsin Future Non-Conference Opponents – 2012+

    2012

    •09/01 – Northern Illinois – cupcake
    •09/08 – Oregon State (away) – cupcake
    •09/15 – Utah State – cupcake
    •09/22 – UTEP – cupcake

    2013
    •08/31 – UMass – cupcake

    Seems there’s plenty of room for a potentially great game against a top 25 SEC team.

    Perhaps Wisconsin and company are waiting out the 2014 playoff season to see how the new rules regarding strength of schedule will turn out.

    Probably not.

    More likely than not, they are quite happy with their schedule.

    Here is a little extra for 2011.

    •09/01 – UNLV – cupcake
    •09/10 – Oregon State (Home) – cupcake
    •09/17 – Northern Illinois – cupcake
    •09/24 – South Dakota – cupcake

  4. thekatman says: Jul 3, 2012 7:50 PM

    Hey kids, we’re not talking about Wisconsin’s schedule. This is an Alabama article. Try reading for a change. They do teach that in the south ya know.

  5. bertenheim says: Jul 3, 2012 7:57 PM

    The Big Ten and the SEC both need to go to a nine-game league sked, and they both need to drop the FCS games.

  6. westlaw1 says: Jul 3, 2012 7:58 PM

    Hey kids, we’re not talking about Alabama’s schedule. This is a Wisconsin article. Try reading for a change. They do teach that in first grade know.

    Here is a little extra from the second paragraph:

    “In a report over the weekend from the Wisconsin State Journal regarding Wisconsin’s efforts to beef-up its own pastry-like out-of-conference slate, UW athletic director Barry Alvarez acknowledged that, as part of that effort, that there had been conversations with Alabama about a future game or games.”

    or from the title of the article:

    “Alvarez: Tide turned down shot at series with Badgers”

  7. rsmeans says: Jul 3, 2012 8:15 PM

    This whole story totally misinforms what happen. ESPN and the Wisconsin AD and Nick Saban got together to arrange a neutral site game either in Atlanta, Texas or New Jersey. Saban accepted this idea because it was good for recruiting and he knows first games get lot’s of attention. Second games are often boring and ignored. Wisconsin refused the neutral site and instead wanted a home and home two game series which Saban felt did nothing for recruiting. Wisconsin has never learned to use out of conference games for exposure and recruiting. Home and Home outside games are simply not attractive.

  8. ghengy says: Jul 3, 2012 8:32 PM

    Alabama should send Vanderbilt up to kick Wisconsin’s ass so maybe they will stop whining about this.

    Big deal, this is not that difficult to figure out. They played Penn State last year and nobody watched. Viewership will be up when they clobber Michigan. LOL They aint ducking anybody, some people dont realize how brutal the SEC schedule has gotten these days.

  9. thecrazyasianinseccountry says: Jul 3, 2012 8:43 PM

    @ thekatman….
    Here in da South they teach us to be objective and look at other facts before we pounce on frivolous jealousy.

  10. bertenheim says: Jul 3, 2012 8:55 PM

    Alabama and Wisconsin each play exactly three teams this year expected to be in the top 25.

  11. dcroz says: Jul 3, 2012 9:26 PM

    Seriously, are you Big Ten wingnuts trying to suggest that Alabama is scared of Wisconsin? We just played one BT school in a home-and-home (Penn State), have another home-and-home set up in ’15 and ’16 (Michigan State), and a neutral-site game with a third two months from now (Michigan). Throw in Clemson in ’08, Virginia Tech in ’09 and ’13, West Virginia in ’14, and Georgia Tech in ’18 and ’19, and Saban is on solid ground as far as looking for good teams to play.

    There’s nothing unusual about two teams trying to schedule a matchup but not able to come to mutually-agreeable terms. As I have said before, scheduling is much harder than some people think, and certainly not as easy as picking up the phone with anyone in the country and having a home-and-home deal done in five minutes. I would enjoy seeing a ‘Bama-Wisconsin matchup; they’ve only met once before back in the late 1920s, so a second game is long overdue. Perhaps the two teams can see clear to have a regular-season game in the near future, though with as many SEC-vs-Big Ten bowl tie-ins as there are, we may see a postseason one before then.

  12. mrlaloosh says: Jul 3, 2012 9:34 PM

    Alabama wants to play the good schools in the Big Ten like OSU, Michigan, Penn State, Michigan State & Nebraska. The Badgers are a second tier out of conference match-up. No glory in that.

  13. normtide says: Jul 3, 2012 9:47 PM

    Bama is entrenched in the national spotlight, do you think UW is the only school calling T-town? Sounds to me like UW is trying to turn this into cred for them. Does anyone without bias really think Bama is afraid to play any other school? Either their feelings were hurt, as is usually the case with Bret, or they find it easier to milk some cred then find another quality team to play. Why else not just call another school.

  14. stayclassyasheville says: Jul 3, 2012 10:17 PM

    Go Bucky!

  15. dmvtransplant says: Jul 3, 2012 11:11 PM

    From the B1G side:

    Wisky played Oregon State, UNLV and NIU(MAC Champ). Bama played GA Southern, Kent State, North TX and a bad offensively Penn State team. Basically 4 cupcake teams.

    From the SEC side:

    Bama isn’t playing Indiana, Purdue and Minnesota during the conference schedule. The SEC west is cut throat and regular season game against LSU was basically a bowl game into it’s self(kind of like Oregon vs USC). But the team scheduled Penn State back when they were winning 10-11 games a season and had no idea they’d suck so much starting in 2010, Saban went to Kent State and it means alot for him to coach against his school and GA Southern & North Texas needed the money from the game to keep their doors open. We got nothing to hide and we still won the National Championship.

    From the AD’s side:

    We schedule games we know our teams can win, unless there is a special occasion (kickoff game, old rivalry or special venue i.e. Jerry’s World). And we love to use smaller programs that don’t have our resources to their advantage.

  16. thraiderskin says: Jul 3, 2012 11:59 PM

    Alright, this always break down into a B1G v SEC fight and it just gets stupid. I would bet, Alvarez was responding to the accusations that his program does not schedule tough non-conference games, or something to that effect. His response was probably the story above, they tried, but Bama had other things to do. Not everything has to be a slap at the other conference. Alabama is an overall better squad, but Wisconsin is not a joke, nor a cake walk. Bama might have a great defense, but Wisconsin can throw down with great offensive-line play, who can push anyone into the ground. Obviously you can point to the post-season duds for UW, but that was more of the game being too big for their head coach than what those O-linemen and running backs can do to anyone in this country. Naturally, the cheese heads are going to get butt hurt because I said their HC blows, but I live in WI and I’ve seen his ineptitude enough.

  17. buckeye94 says: Jul 3, 2012 11:59 PM

    All you southern boys just shut up! I live in the south you guys suck and if it were not just for your few good teams you would just have NASCAR. Let the big boys of the north who have dominated the game for decades talk. The SEC gets a few good teams in one decade and think their so great. I would rather watch Big Ten, PAC 12, or Big 12 football before sum low scoring crappy SEC football.

  18. normtide says: Jul 4, 2012 12:09 AM

    Even bucky can’t stand living in Ohio. Funny. It is also funny how fear has turned to lunacy with him. Just watch your league, and their standard, two good players per team, style.

  19. jimbo75025 says: Jul 4, 2012 12:19 AM

    buckeye94 says:Jul 3, 2012 11:59 PM

    All you southern boys just shut up! I live in the south you guys suck and if it were not just for your few good teams you would just have NASCAR.
    —————–

    Jesus man if you hate the South so much then why do you live there of your own free will? I am sure there is a UHaul location within a few miles.

    I seem to remember your precious Ohio State getting ran off the field a few times vs Florida a few years back. Face it the SEC style is speed, speed, and then some more speed for good measure and the old axiom speed kills is very true. Until a team comes along with the speed to match what the SEC brings then you will see the same results. Oregon came the closest-big difference was that their 4.4 40 guys were 5’10 and 185 pounds, Auburns were 6’6 and 250.

  20. normtide says: Jul 4, 2012 12:26 AM

    He can’t move back, no jobs in the rust belt. Well, not until that time machine can take him back 20 years.

  21. jimbo75025 says: Jul 4, 2012 12:47 AM

    normtide says:Jul 4, 2012 12:26 AM

    He can’t move back, no jobs in the rust belt. Well, not until that time machine can take him back 20 years.
    ———–

    Eh, for someone who hates the South so much I just suggested that perhaps an empty belly would be preferable to having to spend another day in the land of decent jobs and affordable housing.

    I am sure you will agree normtide that few not actually living the South fail to understand that the large majority of the population moved there in the last 20-30 years. I always found it amusing that in my last US stint (and I guess Texas still counts as the South), out of all my friends and coworkers, exactly one grew up in the state-this out of a few hundred people at least.

  22. normtide says: Jul 4, 2012 12:58 AM

    Yes jimbo, and the best part is, they are the ones that are always wrecking in the snow and ice. If I had a dollar for every transplant that was going to show us how to drive on ice…

  23. jimbo75025 says: Jul 4, 2012 1:38 AM

    normtide says:Jul 4, 2012 12:58 AM

    Yes jimbo, and the best part is, they are the ones that are always wrecking in the snow and ice. If I had a dollar for every transplant that was going to show us how to drive on ice
    ————-

    Agreed. The real southerner knows that the best way to spend a snowy/icy day is on your couch with a blanket and the remote (unless a snowball fight opportunity in one of our ample open spaces arises of course) and not out driving around. Yet people think we are stupid?

  24. blahblahblah333 says: Jul 4, 2012 8:19 AM

    What makes me laugh is Tide fans think they actually have 14 legit championships. Now thats funny.

  25. mountaineer50415 says: Jul 4, 2012 9:00 AM

    What makes me sad is that the Tide’s fans can put a smile on your face. But your own team is unable to. Now that is SAD!!! I take joy in my own team.

  26. blarry21 says: Jul 4, 2012 9:10 AM

    Wisconsin has easily been one of the top 2 football programs in the Big Ten for some time now. Ohio State would be the only team that was better overall during that stretch. Saban would be taking a HUGE risk to play the Badgers at Camp Randall and he knows it. It’s called respect… Or maybe fear.

  27. blarry21 says: Jul 4, 2012 9:13 AM

    And by the way, what idiot would call Wisconsin a second tier big ten school? Behind Michigan, Penn State, and Nebraska??? Pay attention please. UW has owned all of those schools. Mich St has given us great games however.

  28. normtide says: Jul 4, 2012 9:53 AM

    The thing is blarry, being the second best team in the B1G makes you about 18th overall.

  29. bertenheim says: Jul 4, 2012 9:53 AM

    TxA&M and MO have easier skeds this year than if they’d stayed in the (current) Big XII.

  30. normtide says: Jul 4, 2012 10:06 AM

    Bert, ok and okst are the only true national players atm. The jury is still out for texas. Wvu and tcu will be good, but adjusting. A&M will play the Bama, LSU, ARK, AU, USC. Mizz has Bama, ARK, UGA. That at least matches any 12 teams lot.

  31. bertenheim says: Jul 4, 2012 10:19 AM

    The SEC is twelve teams hiding behind AL and LSU, saying “Look how tough we are.”

  32. beedubyatoo says: Jul 4, 2012 10:26 AM

    mrlaloosh says:
    Jul 3, 2012 9:34 PM
    Alabama wants to play the good schools in the Big Ten like OSU, Michigan, Penn State, Michigan State & Nebraska. The Badgers are a second tier out of conference match-up. No glory in that.
    ——————————-
    FYI. WI has won more Big 10 titles in football, including the last 2, than any other conference foe.

  33. normtide says: Jul 4, 2012 10:27 AM

    Ask k-state about that lol. The second best team in the 12 was run thru by the 3rd our 4th SEC team. Unless ofc you imply that ku, isu, baylor, ttu, worry anyone. Our top 6 cast a dark shadow over your top 6. Or, do you really think okst is a yearly player?

  34. rsmeans says: Jul 4, 2012 10:36 AM

    Year in and year out the Big 12 has been only the fourth best conference in college football. Last year because of the matchups they did very well until they played a SEC team which dominated them. In 2010 The Big 12 was 3-5. In reality the Big 12 has no really elite teams and are unlikely to make the NC game for a very long time.

  35. Tim Donaghy Institute of Refereeing says: Jul 4, 2012 11:08 AM

    Predictable. Bama thought it might rain and they’d get their skirts muddy.

    Plus, as we saw last year when they played ONE (and lost BTW) team in the final top 25 during the regular season, they’d rather play rope-a-dope and try to stay near the top of the rankings.

  36. Tim Donaghy Institute of Refereeing says: Jul 4, 2012 11:14 AM

    Or, because Alabama has the 9th-highest poverty rate in the U.S., perhaps they couldn’t afford the transportation costs to get to Madison.

  37. normtide says: Jul 4, 2012 11:18 AM

    So, ARK was not in the final top 25? Tell me, where do you rank in education? And how bad does it hurt, having the poverty stricken proven to be better then your team?

  38. Tim Donaghy Institute of Refereeing says: Jul 4, 2012 11:19 AM

    National Champions*

  39. Tim Donaghy Institute of Refereeing says: Jul 4, 2012 11:22 AM

    Correction: powerhouse Bama played TWO teams in the top 25. What a meat grinder. When you say the SEC beats up on each other in conference play, are you talking about pillow fights?

  40. Tim Donaghy Institute of Refereeing says: Jul 4, 2012 11:28 AM

    More stats…

    46th in Median incomes
    44th in college degrees
    3rd in infant mortality
    1st in rooting for conferences rather than a team ( the Census now measures this)

    I’m calling my realtor today so I can join that action.

  41. normtide says: Jul 4, 2012 11:28 AM

    And the SEC has all these BCS titles because all of you just like us so much. I suppose it hurts, to think you are better then a group of people, only to see them achieve such greatness. Maybe have a cup of tea, I hear it relaxes.

  42. normtide says: Jul 4, 2012 11:32 AM

    And yet, we are still better then you. Pretty sad, huh?

  43. WingT says: Jul 4, 2012 11:44 AM

    To all of you unhappy people living in Alabama – please move back from wherever you came.

    For those of you who are trying to find fault with Alabama’s decision to say no to the cheese heads, it’s simple, Wisconsin needs Alabama a whole lot more than Alabama needs Wisconsin.

    To those of you who think the SEC is superior and no other conference has a chance against the SEC’s best – you are simply wrong. The 6 year consecutive win streak held by the SEC in the NC game is an amazing streak and probably will never be broken. But they SEC has a target on its back now and eventually will be beaten. The PAC12 and the Big10 are very very close to the SEC in terms of Across the board talented teams.

    And finally,

    roll tide

  44. buckeye94 says: Jul 4, 2012 11:47 AM

    I don’t hate the south. My point proven tho I hate people in the south because a few good teams makes them think they are the best. Florida has faded off. Auburn got lucky landing cam newton who was a beast. SEC does hide behind LSU and Bama. We will see what teams truly hold greatness when playlets starting SEC will not dominate. Big Ten teams are getting better and USC is back in the hunt.

  45. dcroz says: Jul 4, 2012 11:49 AM

    Tim:

    Like stairwayto7, go Sandusky yourself.

  46. WingT says: Jul 4, 2012 11:52 AM

    @buckeye94
    Hate is a very very strong word. We in the south don’t care if you hate us – it just shows your ignorance

  47. normtide says: Jul 4, 2012 11:57 AM

    The pac has one team, usc, that can live on the national stage. The 12 is by far the SEC’s biggest threat. Neither fear the other, as shown in the new champions bowl deal. The b1g is farther behind. Their teams have 2 stars each, the rest are filler. The will win some games, but their glory days are way gone.

  48. buckeye94 says: Jul 4, 2012 12:11 PM

    Your right PAC only has USC let’s just throw Oregon out and forget a decent Stanford team. Big Ten has Wisconsin, mich., mich st, Nebraska, Iowa can be good at times, Ohio st suffered from a tat problem but will be back with urban after a year of sanctions but yeah the Big Ten is to far behind. Yeah let’s all hail SEC or basically LSU and Bama.

  49. normtide says: Jul 4, 2012 12:25 PM

    Do you think stanford is a player now, I think now that luck is gone, they will be stanford again. You do not have to play great defense to win it all, but you have you at least give it thought. Thats why oregon won’t get there. Mich state has a great coach, but can they get the recruits? Nebraska has farther to go then you think. OSU and Mich are the best shot the b1g has. I an sorry, but I have seen Urban mail it in the last couple of years. He can not adjust to the players he has, he needs ones that fit his style. Also, he needs a great DC and defensive players, OSU has neither atm. UW has feasted on a down league. Idk if penn st can ever recover. You are right, and no sarcasm, the b1g is not gone. But, you will have to step up recruiting, on a major scale. From UW’s response, I am not sure yall are ready to recruit like that.

  50. bigbuckeye76 says: Jul 4, 2012 12:25 PM

    Let me get this out of the way now………the SEC is the best conference period. All the other conferences are just vying for second.

    It will be interesting to see what the Urb hire does to the B1G….will the other schools finally make an effort to spend the $$ on coaching staffs? The over signing issue will be a little harder to overcome.

    As for this article, whatever the reasons……Bama at Camp Randall would have been an epic game..

  51. normtide says: Jul 4, 2012 12:51 PM

    Btw, happy 4th to all! This land and the people are the best on the planet. It is good to live among people where the biggest argument is who plays better football. God bless us all.

  52. WingT says: Jul 4, 2012 1:25 PM

    @buckeye76
    Well stated sir. I especially agree that the Badger / Bama games would have been epic and would have generated a tremendous amout of interest and viewership – not a bad thing for the NCAA imo.

    Question for you – what is your definition of over signing?

  53. normtide says: Jul 4, 2012 1:41 PM

    The over signing issue is moot. Is their claim that we must recruit less in order for them to get good players? Why not just recruit harder yourself? My thought is that these players still would not go north. They would go to other southern teams, or out west. Warm weather folks seldom choose to move into cold climates.

  54. thraiderskin says: Jul 4, 2012 3:36 PM

    The over signing issue is more than about the amount of talent, the SEC will always have the advantage over the B1G due to several non-football related issues, we just don’t care for the inherent dishonesty(real or over-stated) in over-signing. While I’m pleased to bring in some SEC spirit into Ohio State, I prefer to keep as much morality(real or overstated) in recruiting as possible.

  55. westlaw1 says: Jul 4, 2012 3:42 PM

    I would assume that buckeye76 would define over-signing like this:

    Ohio St. – 93 players on current roster (not including the 2012 signing class)

    2012 – 25
    2011 – 24
    2010 – 19 = 113 (28 over the 85 limit)
    2009 – 25
    2008 – 20

    Of course this does not count the number of Ohio St. football players that have received non-football scholarships, (i.e., citizenship scholarships), that do not count against the 85 limit until the individual actually suits up for a game.

    Considering the high number of 5th year seniors, that Ohio St. likes to brag about, it is always interesting to watch the attrition rate.

    I find it curious that B1G is concerned about the SEC attrition rate after signing day, and ignore their attrition leading up to signing day. Looks to my eyes that the B1G and SEC are both seeing more than 85 recruits hit campus over any 4 year period.

    Just a little extra:

    Michigan – 83 players on roster (not including 2012 signing class)

    2012 – 25
    2011 – 20
    2010 – 27 = 118 (33 over the 85 limit)
    2009 – 22
    2008 – 24

  56. stairwayto7 says: Jul 4, 2012 4:31 PM

    Once again SEC teams do nto want to play big games and stick with the Vandy’s, Ole Miss, Miss State and Kentuckys in conferance and Alabama A&M’S 3 times a year and play 3 tough games and say we play a rough schedule!

  57. normtide says: Jul 4, 2012 4:36 PM

    Lmao, you play mac teams every year, and other b1g teams. Both are about the same. My kids HS team could beat indiana.

  58. wisccowboyfan says: Jul 4, 2012 5:10 PM

    I’m a Badger fan, I live in Whitewater, Wisconsin so I have our Division 1 college in Madison and our Division 3 football champs in my little town. Now, SEC is a better conference. It should be, high school football in pretty much all the south is miles better than in the north, especially Wisconsin. Of a school is good around where they live, they tend to go there. I don’t really pay to much attention to recruiting, but I’m starting to. If I’m wrong, I’m sorry. I am only a high school freshman.

    Now I think in a ‘Bama vs. Wisconsin match-up ‘Bama would win it. Wisconsin just doesn’t have the defence in my eyes. Our run game would work pretty nicely, but not good enough. Now last year, with Russell and Toon, I think it would have been pretty interesting. But I still think ‘Bama would of come out on top. Maybe ‘Bama winning by a touchdown or two.

  59. thekatman says: Jul 4, 2012 5:23 PM

    Cupcake OOC games will become moot when CFB schedules mandate a 9 conf game schedule and takes into account strength of schedule.

    If a Top 5 team is undefeated, yet played 1-3 FCS teams, they cannot beat out another Top 6 team that doesn’t play FCS teams and may be 11-1.

    Yes, all schools play FCS teams in their OOC schedule except for 3. USC, UCLA and Notre Dame.

    Being 12-0 with 1-2 FCS games as wins and playing Top 25 teams, does not give greater credence over an 11-1 team that does not lay FCS schools and has wins over top 25 teams.

  60. normtide says: Jul 4, 2012 5:29 PM

    All these b1g fans bring up non-fbs games. Ask mich how cupcake they are. I remember app st (a southern school btw) beating them in the big house.

  61. WingT says: Jul 4, 2012 8:57 PM

    @westlaw1
    Nicely done. I had no idea that THE OSU was such a “culprit” of “over signing”, lol

  62. dkhhuey says: Jul 4, 2012 9:55 PM

    Seriously – Bama doesn’t owe Wisc dick! They have enough SOS points just navigating through the SEC right now! If I was in that position – I would at least wait until all of the playoff logistics are finished and the ranking criteria defined before making any large arm waving moves!

  63. waynefontes says: Jul 5, 2012 8:14 AM

    Stairway, your school enabled a child molestor.

    Alabama also stomped Penn State in the ground. Penn State put up as much of a fight as a lower SEC program. Which is what Penn State would be

    Except the SEC wouldn’t dirty itself with a program that enabled a child molestor that looked the other way.

    Penn State is the biggest embarrassment in college football.

    Your program is pathetic both on the field and off.

  64. waynefontes says: Jul 5, 2012 8:52 AM

    Tim Donaghy Institute of Refereeing says:
    Jul 4, 2012 11:28 AM
    More stats…

    46th in Median incomes
    44th in college degrees
    3rd in infant mortality
    1st in rooting for conferences rather than a team ( the Census now measures this)

    I’m calling my realtor today so I can join that action.

    ————————————————–

    That’s awesome. Thank you for bringing that information into a college football discussion.

    Your school and conference is inferior to the SEC. I don’t blame you for not stating what team you pull for. If you had any pride in them, you would name them.

    Your team and conference are both awful. You obviously agree, or you would name the team you pull for.

    I don’t blame you for your shame.

    If it makes you feel better to introduce facts nowhere near relevant to college football in a college football discussion… more power to you.

  65. pulpfictionado says: Jul 5, 2012 2:40 PM

    “Alabama won’t shcedule a home/home series with Wisconsin because of what? Because there’s no way in hell an SEC team will travel that far to play a team that good.

    Wisconsin, Westlaw1, is playing 12 FBS opponents this year. None From the Sun Belt, Bama is playing Western Kentucky, Florida Atlantic and Western Carolina.

    “Seems there’s plenty of room for a potentially great game against a top 25 SEC team.” Just find one willing to go to the Camp.

    “The Big Ten and the SEC both need to go to a nine-game league sked, and they both need to drop the FCS games.” Agreed.

    “which Saban felt did nothing for recruiting. And Saban is not fool enough to travel that far to play a team that good.

    “Alabama should send Vanderbilt up to kick Wisconsin’s ass so maybe they will stop whining about this.” This isn’t a research competition, and if it was, it would not be a rout.

    “Wisky played Oregon State, UNLV and NIU(MAC Champ). Bama played GA Southern, Kent State, North TX and a bad offensively Penn State team. Basically 4 cupcake teams.”

    Not four cupcakes, but not a USC (University of Spoiled Children)-type schedule, either.

    “We got nothing to hide and we still won the National Championship.” You won the BCS “championship.”

    Jesus man if you hate the South so much then why do you live there of your own free will? I am sure there is a UHaul location within a few miles.

    jimbo75025:
    Texas is the new California

    “What makes me laugh is Tide fans think they actually have 14 legit championships. Now thats funny.”

    It’s delusional, is what it is.

    bertenheim: “The SEC is twelve teams hiding behind AL and LSU, saying “Look how tough we are.”

    no, The SEC is twelve teams that beat up on FCS and Sun Belt squads, hiding behind ‘Bama and LSU, saying “Look how tough we are.”

    Tim Donaghy Institute of Refereeing: “Predictable. Bama thought it might rain and they’d get their skirts muddy.” Yup.

    but even the asterisk does not illustrate how illegitimate that “national championship” is.

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    normtide:
    “And the SEC has all these BCS titles because all of you just like us so much.” No, because the right people like you so much. Twice, the BCS champion could be called a de-facto national champion. Texas and tOSU. All of the SEC’s BCS titles are questionable at best.

    WingT: “The 6 year consecutive win streak held by the SEC in the NC game is an amazing streak and probably will never be broken.” Not amazing, not “NC” games.

    buckeye94:
    Auburn got lucky dodging TCU.

    bigbuckeye76:
    “Let me get this out of the way now………the SEC is the best conference period.”
    That, sir, is a reasonable assertion.

    normtide:
    “This land and the people are the best on the planet. It is good to live among people where the biggest argument is who plays better football. God bless us all.”
    Hear, Hear!

    wisccowboyfan: in Whitewater, the Warhawks have LEGITIMATE National Championships. They don’t in Tuscaloosa.

    thekatman:
    “Yes, all schools play FCS teams in their OOC schedule except for 3. USC, UCLA and Notre Dame.” Good point.

    “Being 12-0 with 1-2 FCS games as wins and playing Top 25 teams, does not give greater credence over an 11-1 team that does not lay FCS schools and has wins over top 25 teams.” Even better point

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    normtide: UofM had no business playing Appalachian State. Go Blue!

  66. mrslay1 says: Jul 5, 2012 3:12 PM

    This is such a joke! To be sure Wisconson would like to play a real team and hope that they could get lucky:-) There is no big 10 team besides Mich and Ohio State that is top tier. They can’t even win a rosie bowl. National title…please! The SEC rules and everyone knows it, except those who lie to themselfs and others. With Urban Meyer and Brady Hoke the big may return to the top 4 again, but it will never be that whinning PU*** bielema. His name even sounds like a social disease

  67. sprizzle2182 says: Jul 6, 2012 8:29 AM

    bertenheim says:
    Jul 3, 2012 8:55 PM
    Alabama and Wisconsin each play exactly three teams this year expected to be in the top 25.

    this is the most ignorant comment ive seen yet…BAMA plays LSU, Arky, Mich, Mizzou & AU….all top 25 caliber teams(as much as it pains me to admit about AU..lol)….if Wisconsin was smart they would have accepted a neutral site game instead of pushing for only a home/home series…just as stupid as Boise saying Nebraska refused to play them when in reality Boise refused to take less than a MIL and Neb offered $750,000…

  68. metroplexfrog says: Jul 8, 2012 12:45 PM

    The Badgers had problems with those little guys from Texas. They all thought they would destroy them but couldn’t. Then they wanted to play them in Madison the next year because they were embarrassed.

  69. fcmlefty1 says: Jul 9, 2012 3:09 PM

    “just as stupid as Boise saying Nebraska refused to play them when in reality Boise refused to take less than a MIL and Neb offered $750,000…”

    And then Nebraska paid the University of Idaho 950,000 for a game. So, its OK to spend a million on a sure victory, But its not OK to pay a million and then have to explain a loss to your athletic director….

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