“We don’t have editors, we don’t have agendas, we don’t owe anyone anything and we don’t care.”

“We’re the first to admit that we don’t always adhere to pure journalistic standards.”

Right or wrong they are very honest about the service they are providing.

You are correct CFT is a blog, but it is run by a news organization. In regards to my comdemnation of the rest of the media: most news sources have sold this story since day 1 with Paterno’s name at the forefront.
“Report: Paterno, other Penn State leaders showed no concern for sex abuse victims” (MSNBC news link).

I understand there is a business to the News but the coverup involved quite a few people (many with alot more culpability than Paterno).

The main point to my orginal post was just a plea for people to go and read the report and educate themselves on the facts, not to blindly follow news sources or remarks of other commentors, all of whom may have their own bias.

PS. I didn’t get to see any ESPN coverage, I’ll take a look when I get home.

Reading the report now and some of these details are troubling considering many of them are in direct conflict with previous reports and testimony. Not trying to minimize as everybody involved is guilty of a cover up and worse. What I do know is that Louis Freeh is here for containment and scapegoating and that the breadth of the full truth of what happened with Second Mile will never be known.

We still dont know what drove the decision by Penn State to cover this up or why the DA and police buried Sandusky’s activities in 1999.

Essentially we have another cover up of a cover up of another sex scandal by a man responsible for mass murders and just like the Franklin Sex Scandal was buried you can forget about ever understanding what really happened here. Go dig up Ray Gricar and ask him what happened.. oh yeah, he’s still “missing.”

However, you didn’t just condemn CFT–you condemned the media as a whole in your message. You don’t have anything to back this up. BTW, CFT is considered a blog site NOT a news site.

I personally think ESPN is doing surprisingly well in its coverage; going as far as to even put Matt Millen on to offer a half hearted (and somewhat sad) defense of Paterno. And in each discussion they mention all four figures.

The main problem with your argument is—so what??? This is a semantical argument, that doesn’t change the level of culpability by any of the four figures named. All your message is allowing for is (what?) that Curley lied, and Paterno never said that Sandusky could continue coaching. Once again, so what? This is peanuts in the big picture. Let’s say Paterno didn’t say it, this doesn’t reduce his culpability, or that of anyone else. They’re ALL guilty, and should share equal blame. As Mark May said today (yes, I can’t believe I’m quoting May) they are all equally guilty for helping to shelter a child predator for at least 14 years.

This is tragic, and there is no excuse or defense for any of them–not Curley, not Spanier, not Paterno, not the BOT etc.

semantics buddy. nevertheless, we are speaking english, and not greek. right?

go to greece and correct them over there, they need all the help they can get.

I realize first and foremost that this is terrible and what the children went through is unforgivable…I agree with 99% of the posts here…I’m just thinking out loud a bit and this could and probably should ruin this college in every way imaginable.

Pedophine comes from the Greek meaning “child love” “one who loves children”

What’s your definition of love?

How about instead we use Pedoscele – Scele – “Evil Deed”

Jerry Sandusky doesn’t love children. He is not a Pedophile. He is an evil man who hurt and ruined the lives of many young boys. He will rot.

Paterno was 75 or 76 years old in 1999. Program not doing too well, on the proverbial ‘hot seat’ and THEN……he receives news of his BFF being a pedophile freak. HE FELT THE WALLS STARTING TO CRUMBLE AROUND HIM.

so he ponders:

DO I TURN MY BFF IN and LET MY POSITION AS HEAD COACH BECOME LESS AUSPICIOUS BECAUSE THESE ALLEGATIONS ARE OBVIOUSLY CRIPPLING AND INDEFENSIBLE….people would start to question him further.

so he DECIDES:

Rather cover it up and hold everyone around me hostage to not come forth with any damaging knowledge that would jeopardize the brand, image, program….NICE decision making there….

SO who deserves more of the blame?

Spannier? AD? other administrators or coaches?

Who gets blame for letting this person (Joepa) who failed not only his apparent friend, but the entire university, community and for that matter, all of us who were not PSU fans but admired what the school apparently stood for. Moral values, family,yada yada yada….

Sandusky needed obvious help. Joepa did not recognize this. decided to rather protect himself?

my point: He KNEW how damaging this could potentially have been and he clearly made a conscious decision to sweep it under the rug rather than risk his entire life’s work and turn his bff in.

RESULT=WORST DECISION HE EVER MADE.

LESSON=ONE INEXCUSABLE, AND HORRIBLE DECISION CAN AND WILL WIPE AWAY AN ENTIRE LIFE’S WORTH OF GOOD DECISIONS (WILL) AND HARD WORK.

CHOOSE CAREFULLY. LIFE IS FRAGILE AND EVERY DECISION WE MAKE HAS A RIPPLE EFFECT

Joe Paterno’s name needs to removed from anything and everything, including the record books, and that statue needs to be destroyed.

I have read the report. I have read everything I can get my hands on. Everything points to Joe Paterno being in on a coverup of this since the late 1990′s.

The few Paterno apologists that are left are truly a delusional breed.

In regards to the section on Sandusky retirement and the CFT bullet:

“Sandusky notifies Curley in 1999 that he is considering retirement. Paterno “gives him the option to continue to coach as long as he was the [head] coach.” Sandusky then assaults Victim 4 during the 1999 Alamo Bowl. ”

If you refer to pages 57-58 (Negotiating the Agreement) of the Freer report pdf and Exhibit 3-G (pdf page 206) the quotations in this are said by Curley not Paterno. The way this section reads it sounds like Paterno offered this to Sandusky as soon as retirement was considered.

Reading the report there appears to be alot of discussion amongs the PSU officials on how to approach Sandusky retiring (he is retiring after 30 years and would gain more severance at 35). The whole section has Sandusky’s requests for him to retire early (Exhibit 3-F). The PSU officials were looking at ways for him to retire without agreeing to all of his stipulations and not giving him too much money.

In regards to the 2001 incident and CFT’s bullet:

“◦After hearing of the incident from Paterno, Curley, Spanier and Schultz were prepared to execute an action plan that included informing the board chairman of Sandusky’s charity, The Second Mile, and child welfare services. That plan changes after Curley speaks with Paterno. This occurs between Feb. 27-28, 2001.”

This is taken from the Exhibit 2F (page 179 of the PDF) also referenced on page 51 of the report in footnote “l”. The email format is a bit messed up but Curley says about half way down in the email chain “I had scheduled a meeting with you this afternoon about the subject we discussed on Sunday. After giving it more thought and talking it over with Joe yesterday — I am uncomfortable with what we agreed were the next steps.”

Yes Curley does change his mind after speaking with Paterno, but he also says after giving it more thought himself.

I do not see an agenda against joepa. Everyone loved him. That does not change what he turned a blind eye to. This is an example of a man doing so many things right, but it all falling down over a stupid decision. All tbh good in the world does not balance out letting children be sexually abused. Or, allowing a monster free run, much less at a place of learning, much less kids from homes without fathers. There is no way to spin this. I look at any child, and can not help but see my own. I would have killed sandusky, joepa, and the rest had it been mine.

In the 1998 incident you had Sandusky basically admitting it to the mothers face. No charges? Do you think a news organization might have been interested in this then? I know that was the birth of the internet age, but heck yes I think the news would have been all over a coach at PSU having weird contact with little boys. If the legal system fails you, then fight your battle elsewhere and put pressure on somebody to do something.

So in other words, Ben’s highlights of the reports show Paterno gets a -10 on his handling of things, whereas if you read the entire report, he deserves a -8. Got you.

‘I am not going to comment on who is at fault involving the Sandusky Scandal thing, but I am curious at how many people who are commenting actually read the Freeh Report?
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To answer your question, probably not many. Then again, how many people do you think read reports such as the NCAA’s 67 page report on Reggie Bush and USC? Obviously not many, because to this day, people still think that it is fact that Pete Carroll, former AD Mike Garrett, and others at USC knew Reggie was taking money, when in fact, no one at USC (other than Reggie) knew it was happening.

The “breakdown” on this article regarding contents of the report, are not entirely accurate and are worded in a way to make Paterno look worse than the portrayal involving the facts in the report. I understand the majority viewpoint is against PSU and Paterno, but it would be nice for once to see news sources (not just this one by the way) accurately report without promoting their own bias. (I understand the whole ratings and scandal factor of using Paterno’s name in all this, but show a little professionalism). Please inform yourselves from the source material (the Freeh report) before you “make up your mind” since the current media in America chooses not too.

I think PSU needs the most drastic punishment ever. Complete sports death penalty.

If the NCAA does not impose the death penalty, it will be open for accusations that it is guilty of the same type behavior that got Penn State in trouble for not making members of their institution accountable. That Penn State is ” too big” “too important” to have this happen.

Its like world politics. You can do egregious things as long as you are big enough, strong enough, have a nuke in your back pocket. While the little weak guys get showered with cruise missiles, the big boys get away with more because they can be threatening – until they commit a holocaust.

And that’s what has happened to Penn State. It is their holocaust that everyone wanted to ignore.

This analogy is not far from the truth, the Penn State Fatherland with an unquestioned Paterno at the helm and Sandusky as Paterno’s Adolph Eichmann, allowed to continue his rape of children protected by the realm.

The NCAA has no choice but close the program down – or lose all of its credibility.

Unfortunately, there are a lot of idiots out there that will still say that what USC’s football program did was worse. Which doesn’t make sense since USC didn’t do/know anything…it was all Reggie and that ex-agent. If the NCAA had a morality yardstick, Ohio State, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Miami would be in a lot of trouble, instead of the slap on the wrist they received (with exception to Miami, as they have not been tried).

And finally the pieces for the axe to fall on the BOT as well. An entire house cleaning is in order.

Really not the right time.

USC took down Reggie’s Heisman jersey hanging in the Coliseum and removed his name and image from everywhere else on campus. And for what? Because he accepted money from a non-USC affiliated agent in San Diego unbeknownst to anyone at USC (according to the NCAA’s report). Come on! What atrocious act did Reggie commit? What he did was wrong, but how bad really was it? He accepted improper benefits. In other words, charity. Let’s not mince words here. Paterno covered up and protected a pedophile. Yet the NCAA seems to be more concerned with USC, South Carolina, Oregon, North Carolina and Ohio State…cases in which no one was harmed or violated.

Thats 14 years. That would be one hell of a message sent to other Universities that participate in major college sports.