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Bobby Bowden agrees Paterno statue should be taken down

Joe Paternor, Bobby Bowden AP

Or, if you’re feeling snarky, turned so it’s looking the other way.

(Don’t get mad at me; that was the running joke for the past 24 hours)

But the possibility of removing the statue of former Penn State coach Joe Paterno following the release of the Freeh report is serious matter. As I opined yesterday, such a move to do so — if there’s a move to do so — should be Penn State’s prerogative only.

That doesn’t mean others don’t share the opinion that it is indeed time for the memorializing of Paterno to be done away with. Interestingly enough, former Florida State coach Bobby Bowden, a long-time friend of Paterno’s and legendary coach in his own right, agreed it was time to remove the statue outside Beaver Stadium.

“Should his statue be removed? I hear that [on TV]. In my opinion, yes,” Bowden said via the Altoona Mirror Thursday. “Every time somebody walks by and sees that statue, they’re not going to remember the 80 good years. They’re going to remember this thing with Sandusky. And I say for Joe’s sake, for the family’s sake, I would remove that statue. … I mean, just think, every time you go to a ballgame at Penn State and they shine that camera on that statue, that’s going to be brought up again. So if I was Penn State and I was Joe’s family, I’d say remove all that stuff.”

From what I can gather, the desire to remove Paterno’s statue is centered on the principle of what the former coach did, or rather didn’t, do in the Sandusky scandal. Bowden, on the other hand, views it as a way to preserve how Paterno was viewed for decades.

“That’s not the way we knew him,” Bowden said. “Joe was always a guy that knew where he was, he knew what needed to be done and he never shied away from a decision. And for this to happen is just so unbecoming, it’s hard for me and people who knew him personally … to accept it.”

It should be noted that Bowden added his remorse remained with Sandusky’s victims — and frankly that’s where our thoughts should continue to be as well — but as a friend, this has to be a difficult for him to comprehend.

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  1. knicksukcats says: Jul 13, 2012 7:19 AM

    I have kids and I think this is a horrible crime but the fact remains that Jerry Sandusky is the one who committed the child abuse and not anyone else! Ppl are acting like Joe was the predator and that is not true. He was stupid, neglectful and non responsive but he was not the one who literally abused these children. Taking down a statue won’t make anyone forget Paterno and his football accomplishments. It also won’t remind ppl of what happened. The focus needs to be more on the guy who did these horrible acts and helping the victims get better.

  2. bigbuckeye76 says: Jul 13, 2012 7:32 AM

    What a pathetic comment…..all you care about is protecting Joe because he won you some football games.

    You should be ashamed of yourself.

    By protecting Sandusky, Joe enabled more abuse.

  3. crazycane says: Jul 13, 2012 7:38 AM

    knicksukcats, and you have kids and you think Joe was just “tupid, neglectful and non responsive”? Wow! And people wonder why kids grow up to have no values when their own parents don’t have common sense or values.

  4. joewilliesshnoz says: Jul 13, 2012 7:47 AM

    Just put a shower cap on it !

  5. geraldthecat says: Jul 13, 2012 7:56 AM

    Even if you don’t think it should be taken down it is a target. it will be vandalized.

  6. gotampabay52 says: Jul 13, 2012 8:04 AM

    take down the statue and his name off everything its not hate tiwards joe penn st has to start over what jerry did ruined the tradition and history of psu take down joe and rebuild getting recruits is going to be an up hill battle

  7. orthomarine says: Jul 13, 2012 8:33 AM

    Here’s a compromise… Leave the statue up, but add a blindfold

  8. stoutfiles says: Jul 13, 2012 9:19 AM

    I’m sure Bowden would like Joe’s wins vacated so he could be #1…that was important to both of them.

    However, good for Bobby to make the correct decision, unlike the PSU homers like Matt Millen who keep defending Joe no matter what. It could come out that Joe molested boys himself and people like Matt Millen would still defend him.

  9. fcs34 says: Jul 13, 2012 9:30 AM

    Joe thought his football teams reputation was more important then stopping the rape of children. That’s it, that’s all, everything else is just semantics.

    This is his legacy now, and it is all anyone needs to know about this “leader of men”.

  10. canehouse says: Jul 13, 2012 9:32 AM

    the joe pa statue should be taken down, melted down into an a block and tossed into the deepest depths of the Atlantic Ocean. Fuk you Penn St. You all have been living a lie for at least over two decades… your precious Penn St. image was the biggest farce… full of evil people and giant cowards. Rot in hell Joe Pa!!! “Coach Jerry” will be with you soon!!!

  11. sasquash20 says: Jul 13, 2012 9:42 AM

    Not only should it come down, but it should be scrapped or auctioned off. Put the money towards a charity for children of sexual or any kind of abuse. Everything with Paterno’s name on it should come down with it. You know what people should riot and go rip that hunk of metal down themselves.

    I wanted to believe that Paterno was this great guy that did things the right way, but he dropped the ball and his legacy when he didn’t do a damn thing.

    I also feel the death penalty should be given to the football program. And not just for a few years. How many years did this go on for? Well then times that by 100 and that is how many years the death penalty should be for. That way any school that has abuse towards children, or anyone for that matter will report it right away. And then stay on top of it until it is completely resolved. Not cover it up so a school can’t look bad. What a disgrace PSU is. Well I know one school I won’t pay for my daughter to go to. These WORMBURNERS worried about their damn school over the well being of children. Makes you wonder if they even care about the well being of their own students.

    I only hope and pray that these kids/young men are able to move on and live a happy normal life. Lesson to everyone out there-IF YOU SEE ABUSE TOWARDS ANYONE, THEN DO SOMETHING ABOUT. IF YOU DON’T THEN YOUR A SPINELESS, PATHETIC, SELFISH LOSER!!!!!!!!!!!

  12. richmanfl says: Jul 13, 2012 9:56 AM

    Face it….
    1) the inquiry was done by professionals commissioned by the university not some outside press-centric group

    2) 3.5 million emails, hundreds of testimonies, and 8 months of investigation including Joe Pa’s own handwritten notes that detail a total coverup

    3) Evidence that when it was discussed that people were going to release information to authorities, and then subsequently consulted with Paterno, they changed their mind. So Joe Paterno was directly controlling ever aspect of the coverup

    4) In testimony, there are repeated references to the atmosphere at Penn State in regards to the fact that NOBODY would every tarnish or discredit the university, football program, or Joe Pa in any way, shape or form. The biggest supporter and enforcer in this system was Joe Paterno himself. People who saw additional abuse going on, and wanted to report testified that they would have lost their jobs and livelihoods along with benefits and all associated with their employment if YOU EVER CROSSED PATERNO in any way.

    Penn State, from its trustees, to their administration, to the athletics department, and right down to King Paterno created, maintained, and lived an atmosphere of intimidation that reached all aspects of live on campus. They deemed themselves above the law at the expense of sexually abused children.

    I laughed at all the suggestions about the statue (blindfold, turned the other way, etc…. ) but I honestly believe that they should put a new figure of Lady Justice bent over in front of Joe Pa statue as well as adding an arm patting the back of Coach Sandusky next to him.

  13. dannythebisforbeast says: Jul 13, 2012 10:00 AM

    If u knew someone for 40 years and knew a completely different person than want “freeh reasonably concluded”. You would defend them too. If it was your family would you join the mob and turn on them

    If you saw how much positive influence they had on your life and a lot of other lives would it be so easy to believe that they could allow this to happen. It’s a lot more gray than black and white

    Its saddening for all involved especially the kids but everyone spewing hate does not improve.

    Myself as a victim Who never told anyone still believe in joe as a person and believe he did honestly regret it once he knew all the things Sandusky was capable of.
    I have become financially and personally involved in victim charities since this began partially to help and to help restore the penn state name in some way.

    If you know old school catholic people you would understand how they could discount and brush aside sick behavior. I have seen it in my own life. I with spanier had a spine he was a professor with a background in this and should have never let it get swept under the rug. Paterno was far from perfect and to this day the only that has regret or admitted any guilt in the whole disgusting affair.

    with all that said I believe the freeh report was intended to keep the target on paterno,Curley,Schulz and spanier and not let it spread any further. And 8 months, millions of dollars, 400 voluntary interviews. I think paterno is by far the cleanest of the 4. I think an actual investigation by authorities would put the administration on trial and find they were the ones truly lacking in character

  14. deeballer says: Jul 13, 2012 10:02 AM

    I think everything about him should be left up. I don’t want to forget any of it. I want all PSU football recruits to know what the program was built on and by whom. That’s the biggest penalty that isn’t sanctioned by the fraud of an organization known as the NCAA because they’re going to avoid this like the plague.

    Bobby B is trying to preserve Joe’s legacy by hiding him. I don’t want to hide him. I want his statue to painted bright neon orange to remind us that he put the pedophile above ALL the children that were abused. The ones reported and not reported.

  15. florida727 says: Jul 13, 2012 10:13 AM

    I’m a Gator fan, so by law I’m required not to like anything FSU related, but I have to admit, I am a Bobby Bowden fan. That said, this is one time I wish he would have chosen to not answer an asked question.

    The better response would have been that it’s not his decision to make, he’d rather not comment on it if you don’t mind, then throw in a “dadgummit” for good measure. Bowden is a great man of integrity and Christian values. I’ll always be a fan of his.

  16. vader7176 says: Jul 13, 2012 10:18 AM

    A man said to Gallileo, “I pity the nation that has no heroes” To which he replied: “I pity the nation that needs them.”

    (also attributed to Edmund Burke)

  17. joewilliesshnoz says: Jul 13, 2012 10:24 AM

    They better have a good drainage system under that statue, their might be a little more sewage flowing into it than normal .

  18. mountaineer50415 says: Jul 13, 2012 10:39 AM

    If Sandusky and JoePa had walked into a store and Sandusky robbed it, would anyone think it was ok for JoePa to keep it quite? If Sandusky had killed someone in the robbery, would it still be ok to keep it quite? Why on earth is this different to anyone? If the above had happened they would have both been tried for the same crime. Of course unless one died. But JoePa would have been on trial when he died. I just can not see how he is not just as guilty as Sandusky. Many children would have not been raped if Joe Pa had gone to the police when he first knew, when ever that really was.

  19. nesuperfan says: Jul 13, 2012 10:46 AM

    Penn State has compromised, and decided on this for the NEW Joe Paterno statue:

    http://us.123rf.com/400wm/400/400/dagadu/dagadu1202/dagadu120200016/12152488-hear-no-evil-speak-no-evil-see.jpg

  20. waynefontes says: Jul 13, 2012 11:15 AM

    I never cared for Bobby Bowden. I always thought he was a big phony. I was glad that Joe Paterno won their race to the “most wins” record.

    As much as I don’t like him, I do believe he would never reacted the same way that JoePa did. Of course, any decent human being wouldn’t react like JoePa did.

    Take that statue down.

  21. galvezben says: Jul 13, 2012 11:35 AM

    Here it is Day #2 post report and I’m still seeing lots of Thumbsdown (except for the assinine post by knicksuckcats)
    Me concludes that ignorance still runs amok in Pennsylvania.

  22. geo1113 says: Jul 13, 2012 11:43 AM

    John Wooden said something along the lines of character is who you are and your reputation is who others think you are. Joe Paterno had a stellar reputation for 60 years and promoted the reputation of his football program, but we now know when the going got tough, Paterno lacked character. PSU is free to do as they please with the statue but, statue or no statue, Paterno can never get his reputation back because we now know his true character.

  23. anythingbutyanks says: Jul 13, 2012 11:47 AM

    Simple question: If you were going to hire a head coach in any sport, what amount of winning, legacy building, and philanthropy would you require as the necessary minimum to cover for the coach being complicit to the destruction of young people’s lives through sexual molestation and rape? If you think that there is ANY level of winning and philanthropy that can pay for what JoePa knowingly allowed to take place, then you are one of the sick crowd who is trying to remind people of all the “wonderful” things that JoePa did in his lifetime, as if he met your minimum payment requirements.

    PSU should remove the Paterno name and image anywhere that it can be found on campus. No amount of good that he did can ever be equal to the amount of harm that he did by willfully choosing to allow a known child molester to have access to boys under the auspices of his connections to the PSU program.

  24. georgemcadams says: Jul 13, 2012 12:47 PM

    Joe Paterno did a hell of a lot more good than bad in his life. Unfortunately, there are people who will let this overshadow the good, so I think they should move the statue to where it would be visible to the football players for inspiration and reflection on what Coach Paterno meant to them. Maybe, to the practice field or if there is a space that can accommodate it, inside somewhere.

  25. j0esixpack says: Jul 13, 2012 1:06 PM

    @ knicksukcats – If the Paterno’s of the world don’t look the other way, the Sandusky’s of the world cannot abuse children.

    In this case it was Paterno as well as the entire University who looked the other way and let him continue even AFTER they knew what he was up to.

    —————————

    @ georgemcadams: Exactly how much “good” do you have to do to justify knowingly allowing a child molester to continue using your football program to find more victims?

    Paterno could have stopped Sandusky. He chose not to. Think about that again. He CHOSE not to stop Sandusky.

    Leave the statue up.

    Let it be a reminder that no matter how much good one claims to do – it can never outweigh the travesty of turning a blind eye while children are abused.

    THAT’S what Joe Paterno stands for. That was his choice – not yours, not mine. I didn’t tarnish his legacy. Advocates for children didn’t tarnish his legacy.

    Joe Paterno tarnished his own legacy by both his actions, and inaction

    Let’s make sure that no one ever forgets. Leave it up.

  26. kmwatersaz says: Jul 13, 2012 1:26 PM

    It’s not a Sandusky statue – it’s a Paterno statue. Joe is being thrown under the bus and he is not even around to defend himself. The charges in ’98 against Sandusky were dropped. So what was there in the first place? Then when McQuery stepped forward, Joe gave the info to the right people who did nothing except for a sweep under the rug. Was that Joe’s fault? Actually when Joe said toward the end that he wished he had done more, I believe in so many words he was saying he would have done more had he known the administration was going to do nothing. Sandusky’s crimes will be forgotten over time, but Joe’s legacy should continue to be remembered in a positive way.

  27. theawesomersfranchise says: Jul 13, 2012 1:37 PM

    Take it down?

    No no, Thermite it down

  28. theawesomersfranchise says: Jul 13, 2012 1:39 PM

    kmwatersaz

    I WISH he was around to defend himself (lie) some more so he could face the shame he deserves.

    You’re one brainwashed idol worshipping buffoon as well.

  29. stoutfiles says: Jul 13, 2012 1:53 PM

    @kmwatersaz

    The charges were dropped, and then he was given free reign of the campus with young boys. He was also given a suspicious lump sum payment that no one’s ever gotten.

    And THEN when it happened again in 2001, Paterno still did the bare minimum. Fool me once, shame on you…fool me twice, shame on me. Sorry buddy, your hero is a fraud.

  30. gfj7000 says: Jul 13, 2012 2:12 PM

    While I respect both sides of opinions to take it down or leave it up – then another opinion could be Biblical – ‘He who is without sin – let him cast the first stone’! In Joe’s case, HE is not the only one who didn’t report the Sandusky crimes up through the proper authorities in a timely or strict manner; the whole administration is guilty, correct? Why do we pin all of this on the HEAD COACH? My vote goes to ‘leave it up’, as he had 40+ years of prestigious, hard-working coaching – & he should be remembered for all of his hard work for placing PSC on the National map (not the error of the final year – this, I believe killed him at the end). Also, ‘who gave back’ millions $ in donations back to the school? Guess who?Finally, Bobby Bowden is just a jealous former coach who didn’t get his mug-shot placed at FSU nor did he come close to matching Paterno’s statistics. SANDUSKY should, alone, bear the major sins of all of those crimes – not Joe Paterno.

  31. jleam says: Jul 13, 2012 2:26 PM

    Joe Paterno let the horrendous behavior continue in the name of friendship (Sandusky) and his football program. He cared nothing about the children being physically and mentally abused in his own locker room. He continually allowed this pervert access to the building. It has been revealed Paterno had no morals or character so why honor him in any way. The statue should come down and replaced by something PSU can truly be proud of. I applaud Nike for stating they will remove Joe Paterno’s name from, of all things, the (now) named ‘Joe Paterno Child Development Building’. Think about it. It could have been one of your children that had these perverted actions forced upon them.

  32. blackandbluedivision says: Jul 13, 2012 2:28 PM

    @kmwatersaz

    Tell all that non-sense to all the boys who were raped after both these incidents.

    Tell those Penn State fans who idolized JoePa and the football team and were taken advantage of and their idol stood by and did nothing. Tell them that if their hero had stood up and said something they would not have even been touched by Sandusky.

  33. cometkazie says: Jul 13, 2012 2:36 PM

    It is all about accountability.

    Who is accountable for what happened and who was responsible for oversight?

    For me Paterno’s legacy has been flushed, and his name on buildings/statues/etc remind me of this.

    Does a college have a right to have a football team?

    Shut ‘em down for a couple of years.

  34. geo1113 says: Jul 13, 2012 2:58 PM

    kmwatersaz says: .

    The charges in ’98 against Sandusky were dropped. So what was there in the first place?
    —————————–

    Let me make this as simple as possible. Joe Paterno knew in 1998 that at the very least Sandusky (by his own admission) had engaged in inappropriate behavior with young boys in the shower. Joe Paterno continued to hold himself up as a paragon of virtue while turning a blind eye to a man who may have been a predator. And that’s is where all of this started. A true man of character would have said “Jerry, we have been friends for 30 years, but I can’t have this here. You need to go and never come back.” Seriously, we are not talking about Bobby Petrino here. We are talking about Joe Paterno who as we now know lied when he said he didn’t know of that 1998 incident and continued the lie even on his deathbed.

  35. georgemcadams says: Jul 13, 2012 3:05 PM

    Hindsight is always 20-20, which one of us doesn’t wish they had done something different earlier in their lives. Given the nature of what he reported to those in the administration, a concerned man would have followed-up on it, but he didn’t. Quite frankly, given that Sandusky had served directly under him, I am surprised Coach Paterno didn’t call the person in, tell them of the allegations, and tell Sandusky that he was having the administration investigate the matter.

    I still agree with Coach Bowden about taking the statue down (I suggested relocating it to an area where the football players would only see it). The comments here are an indication of the devisiveness our memory of Coach Paterno is. At this time it shows he failed to follow-up.

    Penn State’s football program, like most programs, has not always been free of problem players or situations, but it is the how those situations have been acted upon that determine the “overall” view of the program. In this instance it failed.

    I would not be surprised to learn eventually that the NCAA will find the program lacked a certain amount of “institutional” control, and take punitive actions.

    Hopefully, when all the dust has settled from this, Coach Paterno will be remember more for what he did “right” than what he did “wrong.”

  36. rickrock6661982 says: Jul 13, 2012 3:37 PM

    “Hopefully, when all the dust has settled from this, Coach Paterno will be remember more for what he did “right” than what he did “wrong.”

    ==

    Yeah..good luck with that

    Bobby is right about the statue. But it should have been taken down long before this.

    Anyone with a clue knew Paterno was involved

  37. gfj7000 says: Jul 13, 2012 3:42 PM

    As I said before – (I’m not a Bible thumper) Who among you has no sin? Let him cast the first stone’. I think you all can agree here, Joe is NOT the only one with errant obligations of non-reporting the sins of others through the reportable channels’, so, should HE ALONE be the only receiving ALL of the STONES of society? DID HE TOUCH ANY OF THOSE BOYS? Or should the criminal, sex-offender, child molester SANDUSKY receive 100% of SOCIETY’s STONES. After all, Sandusky is going to get multiple life sentences (not Joe, even if he was alive) Let’s be fair now – the man is dead, so, let him RIP; yes maybe a long-standing medical problem took him to the grave; however, at his age, I believe that all of the trashy publicity – ultimately took this man’s life. Leave the Statue standing! As one of the earlier replies said ‘Let’s leave it standing and remember Joe for all of the commendable things he did’, and not focus on ONE WRONG of HIS NOT being the PSU and the City’s POLICE CHIEF!

  38. pgher says: Jul 13, 2012 4:00 PM

    They should put the statue in the shower stalls.

  39. Deb says: Jul 13, 2012 4:26 PM

    It would not surprise me if the NCAA shuts down the football program for at least a year. And the school certainly will have to pay out tremendous civil judgments to the victims. Enrollment will decline. Penn State is going to take some big hits, and it will take time to recover. Leaving the statue in place would be a constant reminder of those who put power and reputation above protecting the innocent–and in doing so, tarnished one of the nation’s best educational institutions for years and years to come.

    Nothing should be standing on campus as a reminder of this scandal or the people involved. Nothing should be available for a camera shot to give announcers a springboard to bring up this tragedy before every football game. If people want to remember Paterno fondly, they can set up shrines in their homes. For Penn State to recover, the school has to cut out this cancer completely and sever ties with this part of its past. That will be difficult for some. So is amputating a cancerous limb. But it must be done or this thing will continue to drag down the university for decades.

  40. jmb795 says: Jul 13, 2012 4:28 PM

    We judge ourselves by our intentions.
    The world judges us by our actions.

  41. rickrock6661982 says: Jul 13, 2012 4:39 PM

    Paterno didn’t touch any of those poor young boys.

    He just stood by and watched Sandusky do it

  42. horses721 says: Jul 13, 2012 5:15 PM

    Th people that still supportmn Joe Paterno are PATHETIC. He is only a football coach. Did he save any lives while he was alive? I know many boys have had their lives destroyed because Joe Pa was more concerned about his image and the Penn State football program and not the children whose lives were destroyed by covering up for his longtime friend!! Those children did not help the Penn St football program so who cares about what Jerry does to them.
    I’m sick of hearing all the good he did. LIKE WHAT? He built a library for the school. BIG DEAL! He gave something back to a school that paid him many millions of dollars. I’m sure it didn’t hurt his bank account but was done to promote the image of Saint Joe!
    Finally, as a victim of child molestation, anybody who defends Joe P should have a member of their family raped by a child molesterer and have to defend somebody that allowed that child rapist to go free despite the fact they knew what was going on!
    Then again, you neanderthals that defend Joe P would probably not defend the top professor of Penn State if he was accused of covering up such a crime. You would condemn him for destroying the reputation of Penn State because, after all, football and Joe Pa are more important than children being raped. Your school is a national embarrassment and the people that still defend Joe Pa make Penn State a national joke!. Enjoy the new name for you school, PEDOPHILE STATE. Enjoy your statue Penn State supporters of Pedophilia! Keep defending the Joe Pa statue and the man who protected a child rapist from being caught.
    ON a side note, senile Joe sat in the press box took naps, probably wet himself and didn’t do anything but watch the game, NOT COACH IT. He all time win record is a joke. He hadn’t coached anything the last 3-4 years. The only that mattered to Joe was the win record and not 10 year old boys being raped!

    WE ARE PEDOPHILE STATE.

    Keep living in denial maggots!
    YOU ARE PEDOPHILE STATE!
    YOU ARE PEDOPHILE STATE!
    YOU ARE PEDOPHILE STATE!

  43. cbass59 says: Jul 13, 2012 5:19 PM

    From Dan Wetzel:

    The reason Paterno was able to wield such influence is the outsized value placed on college sports and the coaches who deliver those winning programs. A “pyramid of power,” Freeh described it. And anyone pointing to all the players he helped is just repeating the same pathetic concept.

    Paterno did help his football players. Those men, however, were heavily recruited, talented and often highly motivated people. If they hadn’t gone to Penn State they would’ve gone to Michigan or Virginia or Notre Dame.

    For decades he found a way to take top-line kids and maximize what they could do, usually by motivating them to excel at a sport they already loved. They were subject to mass adulation and had the potential to become millionaires at the professional level.

    He wasn’t taking illiterate Third World children and getting them to Harvard. Almost every person Paterno positively impacted through football would have fared similarly had Penn State not even fielded a team. They just would have played elsewhere. Bo Schembechler or Lou Holtz or Bobby Bowden would’ve coached them up in football and life, just like Paterno did.

    Conversely, the kids that Jerry Sandusky tricked, molested and damaged wouldn’t have lived the same life had Paterno done the right thing. They were attacked, out of nowhere. Without fault. Without provocation. Without the opportunity to create their own destiny.

    The lives of these kids were profoundly and forever destroyed because of the actions of Sandusky, Spanier, Schultz, Curley and, yes, Joe Paterno.

    There could never be enough victories, enough perfect graduation rates, enough national championships to justify that.

    Joe Paterno was a great influence on men who were already likely to live great lives, men who could help him win football games.

    He was a failure to those Second Mile boys who had no such talents, no such opportunity, no parade of recruiters looking to offer them scholarships. He turned his back on the very kids that were desperate for the kind of hero that Joe Paterno’s former legacy claimed he was all about.

  44. cbass59 says: Jul 13, 2012 5:21 PM

    From Zac Wassink (PSU Alum):

    For starters, the Paterno statue that’s currently outside of Beaver Stadium needs to come down, and Paterno’s name also needs to be taken off the university library.

    Save me your “what about all of the good Paterno did during his decades spent at Penn State?” comments. No good deed, none, erases what the Freeh Report condemns as inaction that allowed Jerry Sandusky to repeatedly sexually abuse children. CBS Sports NFL Insider Jason La Canfora on the subject: “Continuing blind hero worship and keeping that statue up at State College would only perpetuate the callous, abusive institutional mentality.”

    There no longer remain any questions about Joe Paterno’s legacy possibly being tarnished. His legacy is now that of a leader who, when faced with his most difficult challenge, was more concerned with “bad press” than he was the welfare of children.

    As an adult, I don’t understand the people who insist that Paterno merely made a mistake when he, along with others, didn’t act to stop Sandusky over a decade ago. Having one drink too many is a mistake. Marrying the wrong person is a mistake. A typo is a mistake. According to the Freeh Report, Paterno, Spanier, Schultz and Curley chose to protect Penn State football instead of those victimized by Sandusky. I promise you that you wouldn’t look at such a decision as a mistake if it was your child involved.

  45. mountaineer50415 says: Jul 13, 2012 5:46 PM

    We humans love quoting the words from the Bible that we like. Throw out the ones we do not like. The Bible does say that if you do not have sin you can cast the first stone. However, it also says we should have no graven images. Tearing that thing down takes care of two sins. However, we can not tear down what is not there. Anyone who had any knowledge should be fired. If there is a statue of Sandusky or anyone else involved, tear it down. If we did not put people up on a pedestal we would not have to watch them fall. No one can, as a human, keep up with anothers idol worship. Respect the ones you love enough to know they are not perfect and you will be less likely to feal so hurt when they let you down.
    Like Bobby Bowden said, he would love to be able to ask his old friend why. He can not and no one else can either.
    I am sure there are statues in WV and Alabama. Don’t need to tell me that. I do not have to like everything in order to like the majority. I can not complain as I am not perfect either. As you all know!!! Sense people do not do things God’s way, who can expect them to do it our way.
    This thing is horrible. I do not wish to see it every time Penn St. is in the news. I want the season to begin, so we can talk about something else. If that statue stays, I for one will not watch any of Penn St. football or anything else.

  46. jonanthans says: Jul 13, 2012 6:04 PM

    If you have a child yourself, and you can actually try to condone the actions (lack of) by Joe Paterno, then you need to have your kids taken away from you. You are not fit to be a parent.

    A child should be protected above ALL ELSE. Regardless of the situation, the child has to be protected. Had Joe Paterno done what he should have done when the FIRST instance happened, he would be even more revered than he was, he would have upheld the image that he portrayed for so many years, the face of Penn State University. Instead, to protect his own image and career, he instead chose to turn his back and allow the deed not only to go unreported, but to continue as well.

  47. gfj7000 says: Jul 13, 2012 6:28 PM

    To some of the recent commenters – Your points are well taken, however going back to a simple Bible verse that I have attested to – Have you ever sinned? If not then continue to throw STONES at Joe – he’s is no greater of a sinner than ANY of us! Oh, by the way, maybe six feet of dirt on him might get deeper- if we continue to throw more stones!! No, I’m not condoning his lack of rapid reporting skills to a few in the exec. echelons, neither would I put him in a ‘class with pedophiles’ as one of you did above – that’s quite low-class, putting it mildly. Today (if he were still alive), I doubt that he would ‘stand by Sandusky’ to be a character witness, or as ‘one of his favorite assistant coaches’, if he was guilty of criminal acts. Since he’s not alive, I don’t think IF HE WITNESSED a rape, assault, or molestation of someone that he would not report it. In Sandusky’s case of molestation to my knowledge, only one ass’t coach observed an act.
    Respecting the other comments above that ‘if you had a child’ or knew someone close to you’, then you’d feel differently. For sure I would – I knew two young adult women from our church who were raped & have needed years of therapy and recovery. However in this case – most of you are classifying JOE as the CRIMINAL! Sorry, but I don’t buy it – PUT THE CRIMINAL LABEL on the TRUE CRIMINAL who will get rewarded more than 400 years in prison where he belongs. Yes, I agree that Joe could have been more pro-active in his representation and support of the boys @ the Second Mile . But now I guess is the time to throw as much character flaw trash, guilt, blame, apathy, shame, judgment, stones, bee-bee gun pellets, shot gun shells, arrows from the quiver, and, of course – flaming darts – at JOE, THE MAN IN THE GRAVE! Yep, keep talking everyone – and pretty soon we’ll have THE DEAD JOE PATERNO CRIMINAL CLUB! co-starring ____ blogs, and tweets out there to put our labels on! As for the Statue subject – Yes, I believe it should still stand through all of this to its conclusion, as we’re NOT DISMANTLING a statue of a criminal, just a dead man who is said BY MANY that he knew too much, excused too much, and reported minimally what he knew and tolerated. Well, God only knows this for sure, right? So, let HIM be the judge, not us! But, maybe to be flexible and face possible reality, noting Deb’s comments above – depending upon the NCAA & Freeh and maybe more court reports, she may be right as to the possibility that the football program could be shut down for a year, lost scholarships, lost enrollment and a time of rebuilding for 3-5 years may be necessary. I think it’s extreme to say though, that we should put up Paterno shrines in our homes; I only know of (1) large American denominational church & several Asian churches that set up idols in their home. So, finally I guess we’ll see what will happen with the Freeh report and any others that may come out soon.

  48. gfj7000 says: Jul 13, 2012 7:06 PM

    Hi Jonathans – I wholeheartedly agree with you and BTW – I’ve proudly raised (5) girls have protected each of them during their child-rearing years – so, know where you’re coming from. However, several above (I wrote the long one above this one) still refuse to acknowledge that IT WASN’T JOE who committed the crimes, nor did he ‘aid-and-abet’ the crimes – CALL A SPADE A SPADE – SANDUSKY and ONLY SANDUSKY committed ALL THE CRIMES!! I don’t agree that there were any accomplices to the CRIMES! Sandusky is the NAME for FAME today not Joe.

  49. hopalongcrc1 says: Jul 13, 2012 7:07 PM

    Wow – interesting comments on both sides about whether or not to demonize the person. What if the focus were on the behavior (repeated criminal pedophile autrocities and coverup as part of a state university football program) would not all the commentators agree that the behavior is egregious and should be punished accordingly? If football programs and their fanactic supporters lose bowl games and scholarships because of failure to supervise payments to parents of players by individuals not even associated the school, how should the NCAA and society punish the digusting attack on children by an employee provided an office, locker room, and shower to condcut state business. What kind of organization except a public instituion would employ a demogauge well in excess of 80 yrs. old who could not even walk and expect to be held harmless?
    Any player, coach, administrator after proper restitution is made should hold their heads in shame as all CFL fans should as well that any football would be played in State College for the next ten years.
    As prior commentators have stated, we have all sinned and for not properly laughing at the improper renewal of employment of an 80 year old man pretending to be a coach. Joe Paterno was a great man and a great football coach. As are many men and women that in old age are reduced to loss of their faculties (diapers, alzheimers, memory loss), Joe Pa, however, tried to pretend he was God over all that is Penn State and those that set him up with this unreasonable expectation should be severely dealt with.
    Get real people, this is much more serious than a mere statue, mere loss of campus football, headhunting in the NFL, this is repeated child rape. Heaven help the Penn State trustees, the players and coaches that would now play to honor much less even respect the behavior, regardless of who takes the blame. We are all sinners, and as such, reflect, reexamine and determine how this atrocity happened to all of college football, the entire PA state campus, and coaching in general to determine how to combat the behavior such that it does not happen again. Sandusky could have very well been employed (probably not in the private sector) at any government position in the country and the cover up could be at our local police station, local high school, or even grammar school.
    Do we really want a statue and folowup football games legitamizing or honoring this type of behavior?

  50. jonnyb3491 says: Jul 13, 2012 7:32 PM

    For those of you saying Joe Pa didn’t commit the crime, READ the Freeh report in it’s entirety and then say that. He played an integral and influencial role in the deliberate cover up. Read the emails and the notes that went back and forth within the university…it’s all public knowledge. When the administrators had decided to notify the Board of Trustees as well as 2nd mile of Sandusky’s behavior, it was Paterno that convinced the AD and others to keep it quiet. Paterno is lucky he passed before the hammer fell on him; he made a conscious decision to look past the welfare of young children to protect himself and the university and he did it knowingly. Anything less is blindness.

  51. gfj7000 says: Jul 13, 2012 8:04 PM

    Good note – will read through the report on the weekend. However, HE WAS NOT THE MOLESTER, RAPEST, or CRIMINAL, so, at best you’re saying he hid the knowledge of the acts, and hid them. Will have some pleasant reading to do on the weekend. Thanks.

  52. hopalongcrc1 says: Jul 13, 2012 8:17 PM

    I agree entirely with your position. I am only suggetsing that perhaps an 80+ coach may have been blind, ceratinly lame and to hold harmless the administration that put JoePa is a position of unaccountable irresponsibility should be dealt with appropriately. This is nonconsensual adult sexual misconduct with a minor that was covered up, if not condoned, by an institution of higher (???????) learning witnessed by decorated servants of the country and the school. This is not Monica Lewinsky, Reggie Bush, or other levels of culpability. The the esteemed former head of the FBI states unequivocably that paid employees of the Penn State football program were being paid to rape minors on the job in the facilities provided by the school. What possible lesson could be learned from all of NCAA sports, the entire Penn State campus, and fans of football that have this conduct honored by a statue? Is the crime any less because Sandusky used private sporting foundations, his pension, and his special relationship with the school to perform his academic scholastic studies on young boys? What are we to learn from the Penn State football department research – that bays are less apt to cry rape, that the age of the victim is relevant in the amount of pain and suffering that can be administered and sanctioned by the school? Did Sandusky keep research notes and share them with his immediate supervisor on his findings with the department head, Joe Pa, for future study and research publication?
    Joe Pa in his advanced age (????) certainly brings new meaning to the academic quest of publish or perish. The honorable Mr. Freeh has stood up to the bullies of college football who will not even provide a fair stipend for their dedicated service to the school, but can erect statues and questioned the academic findings of the Penn State football department, and it is not looking very pleasant for at least the next 10 years. Sandusky or those like him (Arkansas seem to be getting close in its irresponsible college football coaching and multi million dollar coach pmts) could be researching on any # of insititutions of higher learning. Is Sandusky behavior and those that employ such behavior statue worthy? Really?

  53. jonnyb3491 says: Jul 13, 2012 9:50 PM

    gfj7000,
    as you read it, please ask yourself this question….had Paterno, Schultz, etc not covered it up when they first learned of his behavior, (which you will learn was btw prior to the 1998 incident) how many other victims could have been saved as a result? Those kids are forever damaged and while he didn’t perform the act, he might as well have introduced them to Sandusky. PSU provided unlimited access to facilities well after they knew what he was. You will read about an email exchange where the four officials including Paterno acknowlege that if this is uncovered, they will all be vulnerable for not reporting it. Yet they decide to hide it from the Board of Trustees and the general public

  54. paco1fsu says: Jul 13, 2012 10:04 PM

    Jaycee Dugard, the girl kidnapped at age 11, kept in her captors shed for 18 years, raped and had 2 children with her captor, remember? The wife of the captor knew she was being held and raped. Now, since she did not physically rape Jaycee should she not be held accountable? She allowed it to go on without regard of the CHILD’S welfare. Whether you like it or not Joe Pa fans, he allowed this to go on. At a minimum coach should have told the big wigs to keep Sandusky off of campus from the first accusation in 1998. If that was the case we would not be having this discussion.

  55. hopalongcrc1 says: Jul 13, 2012 10:14 PM

    I concur totally that Paterno statue should not be left to stand alone. His fellow achievers, AD Curley, VP Schultz, Pres. Spainier, and trustees should all have statues in a huddle with pockets of free tickets, scholarship vouchers, overflowing with cash.
    Students at penn st. (capitalized?) for years to come could reflect upon the football dept. research and published reporting from the court trials and criminal investigations. Research findings could provide insight into how to use power, influence, intimidation to get 10 year olds into nonconsenting sexual activites. How could any reasonable fanatic or loyal supporter want to throw the first stone at such useful appropriate behavior?
    Jim Tressel afterall let his players and coaches sell memorophilia, Pete Carroll failed to keep the parents of his players from taking payments, and SMU got the death penalty for over zealous alums. Sandusky was merely right next door and performing his research in the campus locker room. Sandusky and Paterno (in honorarium) can publish research on how to win football games by raping minors in the locker room.

    A statue – really?

    Was Freeh not a key hero in the Waco incident that burned to the ground an activity that put childeren in danger? I think he may have earned the right to cast the first stone. The Bible has many life lessons from the Hebrews and flollowers of Christ that are 5-7000 years older than the relatively new cults of the past 1500 or 150 years. Even the writings of the new religious cults would not direct lack of admonishment to those that look the other way to the rape of minor children.

    A statue. Really?

  56. horses721 says: Jul 13, 2012 10:18 PM

    gfj7000, you represent what is so wrong about the CULT(it is a CULT and not a culture) that is known as PENN STATE FOOTBALL!
    If I follow your logic, let’s say you know the man next door to you is raping numerous 10 year old boys and you don’t report it to the police, or try to cover it up like Saintless Joe Pa did, it’s not your fault if more boys are raped over the next 10-14 years because after all, FOLLOWING YOUR LOGIC, you didn’t rape the boys so you are innocent and did nothing wrong even though you knew that boys were being raped?? GET A CLUE

  57. hopalongcrc1 says: Jul 13, 2012 10:44 PM

    paco1fsu
    horses721

    Thank you for your comments.

    What I seem to be missing is how anyone could question the god, Joe Paterno and apply equal protection under the law concepts to the cult of Penn State football. Are you not aware of the separation of church and state doctrine that protects the Penn State football cultist child rapes as fully protected? How could you possibly diminish the legacy of the cult leader with clearly documented criminal charges?

    Where is your sense of fair play and team? If the 10 year old team members did not want to be in the showers on a college campus, why should the head football coach be expected to be responsible? Did Joe Paterno invent football, build the building, drive the 10 year olds to the rape facility?

    As stated its not like he lived next door and looked the other way. Joe Paterno merely hired, supervised, paid, and covered up the rapist conduct from the office right next door. Are you kidding, how could Joe Paterno, Penn State football cult, or the trustees (trusted with protecting and insuring individuals from injury and harm) be responsible for what misfortune 10 year old boys might wander into. Have you never heard boys will be boys?

  58. rickrock6661982 says: Jul 13, 2012 11:50 PM

    You know what’s worse than these kids getting molested?

    What Joe Paterno did….nothing

  59. dannythebisforbeast says: Jul 14, 2012 12:00 AM

    When a drug company pays for a study. Does the study say their drug is no good. No it says what will best serve them

    When a board of trustees pay for a report does the report say they are to blame no it steers everything in direction they want.

    When the lead investigator(freeh) is a staunch ally of the attorney general who botched locking up Sandusky a couple times is it going to name him as culpable

    Did paterno tell them not to prosecute in 1998? Or 2005?

    Did paterno tell the BOT to let Sandusky on campus WHEN they had to know there was a grand jury investigation and AFTER they knew about the grand jury’s report.

    There are so many people who let this continue and could have stopped this sooner but did not. But if you want to believe it was limited to paterno and the three stooges then this country is in trouble. I look for motive behind all conspiracies and the motive of the freeh report was to steer away from the board, local and state law enforcement, definitely second mile. I mean that is he most corrupt organization in the state and it’s not even mentioned. Know why…because they gave the governor $200,000 to get elected and the governor gave them grants and subsidies out the wazoo. But hey why mention them as enablers.

    Corbett investigated Sandusky for child rape. Took 200 grand from his child charities Then kicked back hundreds of thousands in grants,subsidies, and access to someone he KNEW was a pedophile.

    No public outrage??? Know why cause you weren’t told to be outraged.

  60. rickrock6661982 says: Jul 14, 2012 1:21 AM

    It wasn’t limited to Paterno

    It’s just that the Paterno apologists can’t accept the reality of their so-called hero.

    But by all means…continue to shift blame to everyone but “Joe Pa”.

    He helped fund a library, you know!

  61. mattolikesthevikes says: Jul 14, 2012 8:09 AM

    Get rid of it. He knew about it and didn’t do anything to help.

  62. omniusprime says: Jul 14, 2012 9:03 AM

    I agree with Bobby Bowden’s take on getting rid of Paterno’s statue. He’s right that every time that statue gets shown on national tv the main thing people will think about is the Sandusky pedophile coverup. What little good JoePa did in his career is way overshadowed by his criminal coverup of a heinous crime.

    To all the JoePa apologists out there whining about JoePa getting trashed about this heinous crime get a clue and some morals. What JoePa allowed to happen was a crime, a very serious crime and anyone who thinks JoePa is being unfairly maligned is more concerned about JoePa and Penn State than the abused children. Only the most disgusting immoral kind of person would fret more over JoePa than the abused children.

  63. tipstopten says: Jul 14, 2012 10:45 AM

    This is a Penn State issue, it is not any of Bowden’s
    business. He wants make sure Paterno is so
    disgraced that his most winning coach will be
    dropped and Bowden being #2 will be elevated
    to #1. Shame on you Bobby , this is a Penn State
    problem mind your on business.

  64. kozbee says: Jul 14, 2012 10:59 AM

    To help start the cleaning of what took place @ Penn st imo anyone having anything to do with this issue bearing their name on any building,statues,halls,fields or anything should be taken down or removed from anything. Never remind those then now and in the future of what went wrong and what should of been done to prevent this.Wash the shame from everywhere the names of those that worked for Penn st.If i were ahead of Penn st i would surely tear down the statue of Joe and remove anyones name anywhere so they will be forgotten.Make Penn st that school it once was and bring back the morals and values it once was.I wish Penn st a new life ending the past and going into the future a new beginning and be that great school it always was before these that held positions at the college.Its time to get our schools cleaned so kids going to school and receive a good education instead of a lesson in sex education.Put Jerry and those away where they can have their sex every night when they go to bed in the same prison so those that turned their heads can get alittle bit of jerry what he was giving the children.Y`all have a restless night everynight when Jerry comes to visit.No shame for the school just those that ran it.Wish the best for the Fans @ Penn st,its time to move on.For those abused,God be with you.

  65. mountaineer50415 says: Jul 14, 2012 1:59 PM

    I for one do not believe that it was just four people besides Sandusky. I do believe that there were very few people who worked there that did not know. Those who did not know are very rare people indeed. A person would have to be completely deaf and blind to have heard nothing in all that time.
    I do not think that getting rid of the statue fixes anything. It is simply a start. I do not believe that all of us talking about it makes a difference. It is just a way of getting it off our minds.
    I do not see Penn St. going forward until they start all over. But then I have been surprised before.
    I do know that once football season begins again I am going to focus on WV and Alabama. Who and when they are playing. If this is still in the news at that time, I do not think I will care.
    Truthfully, it is so disgusting that I would prefer only to hear that Penn St. will start anew and that they will pay each and every child his due. I am sickened by them trying to shove the blame to somewhere else. If you knew, YOU are to blame.
    My parents told me if I could not take the credit, I had better not do it. If I had told JoePa that I was going to the police, I would have gone. He could not have stopped me. I am not a goody two shoes. This is too important to blame someone else for not doing the right thing. These are grown peope saying ” It was his decision.” No it was not. It was the decision of each and everyone who did not say anything. YOU decided to protect yourself, not JoePa. You decided to put the children on the bottom of your list. You are disgusting. It matters not what JoePa did or did not do. He is dead.

  66. hopalongcrc1 says: Jul 14, 2012 2:20 PM

    mountaineer50415

    Yes sir. Take it down, leave it up, but heap shame on those that did, said nothing until the pain is so great that it will not happen again.

    Why would anyone want to be associated with Penn St. or NCAA college football until all that knew or should have known have been fired and shamed?

    You are totally correct despite his pride and arrogance, he grew old and he did not lift himself up on the shoulders of others. Is a few more football victories or $$ worth a Sandusky rapist program on a college campus?

    In the terms of football fanactics like myself, if the p-rogram is not shut down for 10years, how about Penn State starting games down one touchdown for each identified Sandusky victim. On your right probably not enough shame on the university, the fans, and the football program as a fair punishment so it will not occur again.

    How close is Alabama with their god and his daughter attacking fellow students with no reprisal to Penn St. travesty? Does Alabama not give out 50 scholarship offers annually, then only keeping 85 players on scholarship for the 5 years of football, disgarding the excess like Sandusky garbage?

    What makes Pelini and his 3.5 million dollar salary at Arkansas not worthy of wondering what else is covered up in that program.

    Shut it down for ten years as an example to other football programs. Limit coaches salaries as a true tribute to Paterno’s legacy. Pay the players and the support staff sufficiently without fear of reprisal for turning in the Sandusky’s of the world.

  67. infectorman says: Jul 14, 2012 2:21 PM

    Good Lord, there are some seriously demented, messed up people on this post.

    You people need to understand; Paterno put his name, ego and “legacy” ahead of the lives and well-being of a dozen young children entrusted to the care of HIS football organization, period.

    The LEADER is responsible for his subordinates in the context of the enterprise he is leading, i.e PSU football.

    A REAL leader of would have had Sandusky shipped out of PSU faster than an Aroldis Chapman fastball after hearing about the charges brought against him in 98′. If he did so, he would have ALMOST avoided the entire disaster.

    There isn’t a corner in hell hot enough for him….

    Get the F*%K out of your house someday and see the real world, cause as far as the Paterno apologists on this post, not only can they not see the forest through the trees, you moronic MFer’s are blind as bats!

  68. hopalongcrc1 says: Jul 14, 2012 2:36 PM

    tipstopten

    Wow. Lest anyone lose sight of the extentof the victim’s harm and the culprits heinous conduct, let’s all remenber that there are apologists like yourself that are still more focused on the number of football victories than the egregious acts of the PEnn State football program.

    By all means, it is a Penn St. problem. It is readily apparent that the are not sufficient men associated with the Penn State football program to resolve the problem for the future or to make proper restitution to the victims. Shut it down.
    They can play games and rape each other in the locker rooms themselves without venturing out into civilized society (am I being too kind in including FLA ST.?)

    Get real tipstopten, this is child rape and high level coverup. It is not players selling tickets, point shaving, undocumented alumni contributions.

  69. hopalongcrc1 says: Jul 14, 2012 2:53 PM

    infectorman

    Well stated. Thank you for your insight. How do you really feel.

    Would you feel differently if during the cover up Joe Pa would have won a few more national titles, games, or gone to better bowl games? What if in leading the child rape enterprise he would have taken less of a salary, less benefits, less fame and name recognition?

    For the Penn State faithful, what is a few child rape victims right there in the facility under the careful eye of the football coach. After all, the boys were being groomed by Sandusky in conjuction with the development skills he developed while working directily with Joe Paterno at Penn State.

    Your enterprise theory and doctrine of respondeat superior should be extended to the entire NCAA? Perhaps, the application form for NCAA footbal coaches should have a question about are you covering up any illegal sexual activity.

    Close the football program down for 10 years of until the last football fan says, I will not let this happen again and I will report any and all incidents of child rape that I witness. Even if it means that we will never win another football game.

  70. gfj7000 says: Jul 14, 2012 4:00 PM

    My goodness!! I haven’t written since lasts evening since one of you said to ‘read the Freeh report’ which I’m still reading today. However, since 9 PM last night, we’ve had more than (15) contributors vent their opinions. Interesting inputs, however, I thought these posts were supposed to be focused on Bobby Bowden’s initiation of the opinion of ‘take the statue down’! Well, I think we all have lost track of this and have gotten into ‘blame-making’, some acting like the judge, the jury and the executioner on this DEAD MAN, while others of you are impartial (which is more on the center lane), that several of the administrators (including Joe) are to blame for the cover-up, and not just two people – Sandusky, the criminal, and DEAD JOE himself. Let’s get back to the original subject – maybe a public opinion vote should be taken on this. What about that NBC News? I believe there are many out there that are not replying in this venue, but would vote for sure.

  71. mountaineer50415 says: Jul 14, 2012 5:14 PM

    You probably will not believe this, however, they were taking a vote on espn.com. The last time I looked, yesterday, the majority of the voters said they thought the same of JoePa now as they did before??????? He did too much good???

  72. infectorman says: Jul 14, 2012 5:23 PM

    From all accounts of decades of reporting on PSU football, Joe Paterno WAS the football program.
    The university, it’s administrators, teachers, assistant coaches and trainers may as well have been shelf stockers at Walmart when compared to the relative celebrity of Joe Paterno.
    The picture painted in the media for all of those years was that when Joe Paterno said jump, everyone in the organization not only asked how high, but in what direction and upon how many feet as well.

    Prior to this disgrace, I had never heard of a single individual (former players, notwithstanding) from PSU other than Joe Paterno. Been watching college football since the mid-80’s.
    Daresay, 99% of the USA falls within that same bucket.

    He is the ONE person that had the power, cache and Juice to act and act as unilaterally as possible, bringing ALL of his considerable influence to bear to remove the cancer from the organization.
    His actions, what little there were, do not even begin to approach those of a competent Head Coach, Manager Executive or administrator of a small business let alone a major University as storied and well known as PSU.
    Clearly, that he was held in such high esteem was a complete and utter farce. Were I a PSU alum or a local yokel that worshiped this (team) man, I would be crushed, but I certainly would not cling to the “good” that he did through his tenure as though it could make up for 1/1,000,000,000 of his monumental failures regarding that vermin Sanduuuushhhbag….

  73. infectorman says: Jul 14, 2012 5:26 PM

    oh yeah, this goes double for that weak-kneed bleeding heart liberal Spanier and his lap-dog Schultz!

    Have fun in the Penitentiary Boys!!

  74. Tom Poland says: Jul 15, 2012 9:10 AM

    Take the statute down and change Penn State’s name to Penis State to identify the bunch of dicks who were in control way too long.

  75. hopalongcrc1 says: Jul 15, 2012 2:57 PM

    rickrock6661982

    Yes. Your words are right on target. The now well documented fact that Joe Pa did nothing and gave his friend a pass and put his legacy above common decency and the numerous victims is all the reason that his legacy and thows entrusted with Joe Pa’s employment, his department and scope of employment, and those that supported his poor decision making should now bear responsibility.

    Why are the Penis State supporters so unwilling to step up an d take responsibility for their actions and continued insensitivity to the victims?

  76. hopalongcrc1 says: Jul 15, 2012 3:10 PM

    dannythebisforbeast

    I agree with your insight. The Sandusky studies on the Penn State campus to groom minors for continued rape under the supervision of Joe Paterno should be treated like a virus. The football program should be shut down, isolated, all players given a chance to relocate without NCAA reprisal until such time it is determined how this awful astrocity occurred, was covered up, all under the watchful eyes of the Penn State trustees trusted with the fiduciary duty to protect the campus, the students, visitors to the campus, and the reputations of all involved.

    You are correct follow the money and find out who knew or should have known about what was going on in the football program at Penn State. Leading management writer and expert, Tom Peters calls it “management by walking around”. Where were the Penn State trustees (obviously a very loose use of the word) that should have been walking around talking to the same individuals that Louis Freeh interviewed, taking surprise inventory of the situation, considering the variance from generally accepted practices of employing 80 year old men?

    Please quarantine the virus to protect NCAA sports, secondary education at public universities, and the public interest or is the legacy of Joe Paterno ($$$$$$) all that matters to Penn State?

  77. jacksprat57 says: Jul 15, 2012 4:50 PM

    theawesomersfranchise: To the contrary, you’re the proverbial child running with scissors.

  78. conwell2549 says: Jul 15, 2012 9:10 PM

    Dont think I’ll join this feeding frenzy, just sit back and watch

  79. chiefagc5675 says: Jul 18, 2012 10:46 AM

    The Freeh report was obviously written to keep the story from touching his buddy the Gov. of Pa. so of course a crooked FBI guy would blame the dead guy. No surprise there, but many of the comments show the ignorance of most posters.
    I still believe the most negative ones are from people who were abused and then didn’t report their abuser and are now blaming Paterno for their abuse in some sick way. Paterno got rid of Sandusky from his football program the year after the police and prosecutor refused to arrest and prosecute Sandusky when they had a confession in Sandusky’s own voice. Paterno was the football coach and regardless of what power people attribute to him in that capacity, he could not over rule the police and prosecutor of the county- so get your heads out of your derriere- it was not a football problem- Sandusky got his kids from his “farm team” the Second Mile- not the football team- the Governor and those Republicans associated with Second Mile need to be put in this spotlight- not Paterno.

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