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Report: ‘unprecedented’ penalties for Penn State coming Monday

Penn State football coach Bill O'Brien addresses a news conference before his first spring practice as Penn State's head football coach, in Pennsylvania Reuters

The men — and their statues — connected to the Jerry Sandusky child sex abuse scandal have all been purged from Penn State and are/will be facing either facing criminal/civil charges or The Ultimate Judge .

Those left to clean up the collective mess, however, are bracing themselves to face the full wrath of the NCAA.

NCAA president Mark Emmert is scheduled to hold a press conference at 9 a.m. Monday morning to announce what’s being described as corrective and punitive measures  for the Nittany Lions football program.  CBS News‘ Armen Keteyian is reporting that, according to a high-ranking association source, the penalties are expected to be “unprecedented.”

What those specific penalties will be are unknown, although it’s been rumored that the football program could be shuttered for at least one year as a response to the damning Freeh report.  Emmert confirmed recently that all punitive options, including the so-called death penalty, were still on the table.

ESPN.com‘s Adam Rittenberg subsequently confirmed that PSU football is facing “significant” sanctions, and suggested that the NCAA and the university may have reached an agreement on the punitive measures.  Regardless, the NCAA has taken the unprecedented step of bypassing its Committee on Infractions in order to take action against a member institution.

The Freeh report, in essence, accused multiple high-powered officials at the school, including deceased former head football coach Joe Paterno, of actively engaging in a cover-up of convicted serial pedophile Jerry Sandusky in order to protect both the university and the football program.

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  1. polegojim says: Jul 22, 2012 10:33 AM

    JT- is first paragraph complete?

  2. John Taylor says: Jul 22, 2012 10:35 AM

    Whoops? Thanks Jim.

  3. polegojim says: Jul 22, 2012 10:36 AM

    The Death Penalty of length that a resurrection will be necessary.

    No way they can or should do anything less.

    For PennState students and athlete’s – also the innocent – it hurts to say that.

    Current players should be released for transfer immediately.

  4. 305fan says: Jul 22, 2012 10:36 AM

    Sounds like PSU is about to take it rear big time (no pun intended).

  5. cajunirishman says: Jul 22, 2012 10:38 AM

    So is this “lack of institutional control” or a direct jab at the University. Either way, not taking anything away from what transpired, but taking away football from the current players is wrong in my opinion.

  6. dannythebisforbeast says: Jul 22, 2012 10:42 AM

    I hope nothing comes out in the future tha disputes the freeh report because it appears the NCAA is using someone else’s info to base their decisions

  7. Organic-boy says: Jul 22, 2012 10:46 AM

    It is time for all major universities to reflect on what their individual mission statements are.

    Raise precious alumni funds for precious sports programs?

    provide an infrastructure where meaningful longterm learning/skill sets can be developed with associated jobs and careers?

    The jock mentality of universities has been the priority and accepted norm for too long in America.

    It is time to stop glorifying athletics over academic accomplishments.

  8. paperlions says: Jul 22, 2012 10:47 AM

    Obviously, something needs to be done to change the culture of “football above everything” that seems to have permeated the university. I don’t know what measures need to be taken, but it seems fairly obvious that many associated with PSU will ignore anything if it reflects badly on the football program….that attitude is what needs to go.

  9. stairwayto7 says: Jul 22, 2012 10:48 AM

    If Penn Stae gets death penalty ( which they won’t), NCAA MUST do the same with Miami and North Carolina for contining to break NCAA RULES!
    PSU will get 2 year bowl ban and loss of scholarships for 3 years.
    If PSU gets tv ban, this mean that Nebraska and OSU do not get to see that game!

  10. fightingwombat says: Jul 22, 2012 10:49 AM

    Death Penalty?
    Loss of Scholarships?
    Bowl Games?
    TV?
    Asterisk by Paterno’s name in the record books?
    Slap on the hand and told “don’t to do it again”?

    The NCAA should be using this as an opportunity to show the sports world that schools that cannot control either their athletes or athletic departments will be held accountable for their lack of action. They have had opportunities in the past to do this (USC and Ohio State recently) and failed to – because these schools generate revenue, TV ratings or the influence of alumni, or any other possible reason.

    Crimes were committed at PSU, and the BOT, along with others in the school administration, failed to do anything about it. It seems like the school just wants this to “go away” as quickly as possible.

    I’ve posted before about this, and what I feel should happen to the school, but I’m not very confident that the NCAA and the school will do the right thing. If the university and the NCAA have “reached an agreement”, that could me just about anything… and it bothers me (and probably others). Tomorrow we’ll find out what will happen to PSU.

  11. 305fan says: Jul 22, 2012 10:49 AM

    Although I do not agree with the death penalty. The NCAA can’t turn a blind eye to the situation. Also I feel, the students, players , and new staff should not have to pay for others irresponsibility. They should ban all previous persons involved from ever stepping onto any educational institution including off campus sporting events for life.

  12. dominator71030 says: Jul 22, 2012 10:51 AM

    That’s ridiculous. Nobody at Penn State now is associated with that scandal. A penalty comes to a school when an action gives the school a competitive edge. This horrendous scandal did not do this.

    Plus, it is just going to kill a whole community. Every business around Penn State depends on football game days and the season to bring in the chunk of their change. The education will probably also lower. The WHOLE school depends on Penn State to bring in money for other sports and even for education. No athlete or student is even going to want to go there without football and go to a school with huge financial loss.

    For all the people saying think about the victims. They don’t want Penn State football to go away. They love Penn State and want to watch it. The victims even went to games leading up to the scandal breaking. Some even went with Sandusky.

  13. WingT says: Jul 22, 2012 10:56 AM

    Congratulations Bobby Bowden. You are now the all time leader in wins for college football.

  14. raysfan1 says: Jul 22, 2012 11:02 AM

    Death penalty is too much. How about forfeiture of all football revenues from this past season + no football scholarships for the next 4 years?

  15. scoregasmic says: Jul 22, 2012 11:07 AM

    I have a hard time thinking its okay to punish the kids on the football team…they didn’t do anything wrong. They better be allowed to transfer with no restrictions

  16. overratedgators says: Jul 22, 2012 11:10 AM

    Hey Paterno apologists: tomorrow you find out that a statue is the least of your worries.

  17. geraldthecat says: Jul 22, 2012 11:14 AM

    And civil lawsuits coming later……

  18. omniusprime says: Jul 22, 2012 11:16 AM

    Penn State did the right thing this morning tearing down that statue of an evil old man so now I’ll stop calling it Pedophile State.

    Now the NCAA has to step up and do what’s right, administer the Death Penalty to Penn State. TCU got a one year death penalty and Penn State’s crime was far more heinous so a three year death penalty should be appropriate. The NCAA has to send the correct message to all colleges that this kind of criminal activity can never be tolerated and will be prosecuted to the fullest if it ever happens again anywhere else.

    I wasn’t happy about the harsh penalty the NCAA administered to USC because of Reggie Bush and Pete Carroll, but I understand the need to send a message to all colleges that even a premier college like USC will be punished harshly if wrongdoing is discovered. TCU came back from it’s death penalty, USC is coming back from it’s punishment even while it still suffers scholarship reductions and so too will Penn State recover after a multi year death penalty.

    Penn State fans show us your morals and don’t cry about the harsh penalty to be administered by the NCAA. Show us you understand the need for harsh punishment and accept the verdict gracefully. Prove to the rest of us that Penn State teaches ethics and that students and alumni actually learned some.

  19. ningenito78 says: Jul 22, 2012 11:17 AM

    Dominator- wow do you have your head firmly up your a$$.

  20. rcbn says: Jul 22, 2012 11:18 AM

    It has just been announced that the statue has been taken to the local pigeon farm for redecorating!

  21. dannythebisforbeast says: Jul 22, 2012 11:18 AM

    If I was a victim of Sandusky I think I would want his nuts buried in mt nittany. I don’t think I would be concerned with statues and football sanctions. I don’t believe that satisfies them one bit in the healing. It satisfies the masses.

    McQueary walks the streets,Spanier walks the streets, everyone involve at second mile walks the streets, attorney general who dropped the ball on Sandusky is unscathed but as long as they keep your anger focused on symbols and paterno. Everyone else can skate. That angers me

  22. omniusprime says: Jul 22, 2012 11:20 AM

    Organic-boy – Right On!!!!

    It is a shame that colleges have forgotten their prime mission is supposed to be teaching young adults academics, not athletics. It’s a real shame that our country showers so much money and attention on athletes who do nothing of significance while demonizing academics. Thanks christian fanatics for making learning real truths and science seem to be a sin, the real sin is to attack intelligent people for being intelligent.

    Ignorance is a sin best eliminated for all time!

  23. BrownsTown says: Jul 22, 2012 11:21 AM

    Reactionary move. The common argument, but nobody cleaning up the ashes of the program had anything to do with scandal. Remember, most of the people involved here broke real laws, not NCAA bylaws. Imagine getting convicted of murder and your employer suspending you for 90 days.

    So if they give the athletes transfer waivers so they don’t have to sit out a year, does it matter since the season starts in 40 days and they’d need to learn new systems? I bet that will really send a message to would-be administrators covering up nefarious doings.

    The NCAA overcompensates for the cases they can’t, or won’t, prove by laying the hammer on those where another body basically hands them the evidence on a silver platter.

  24. cbass59 says: Jul 22, 2012 11:23 AM

    Ohio State welcomes PSU top 5 players.

  25. theawesomersfranchise says: Jul 22, 2012 11:23 AM

    Dominator believes that fathers should not be put in jail because it unfairly punishes his children.

    What a world he wants to live in

  26. takingbovadasmoney says: Jul 22, 2012 11:27 AM

    Penn State is associated with the scandal. Penn State has benefited financially for years from people not knowing about the cover up, whomever covered it up, through their football program. If this hand been brought to light when it occurred PSU would have taken a financial hit then. They have made millions over the past few years they otherwise may not have if this had been made public when these incidents occurred.

  27. delfi2 says: Jul 22, 2012 11:29 AM

    FINALLY GETTING SOMEWHERE WITH CORRECTIVE ACTION…by normal people with moral values and human respect. Took long enough.

  28. takingbovadasmoney says: Jul 22, 2012 11:30 AM

    Wing – Good point. Bowden’s critical comments now show another motive.

  29. seanb20124 says: Jul 22, 2012 11:32 AM

    Punish those who did nothing wrong !!! Good job NCAA

  30. onbucky96 says: Jul 22, 2012 11:41 AM

    Any last requests PSU? I have 1, tell the Paterno’s to shut up.

  31. vincentbojackson says: Jul 22, 2012 11:43 AM

    Everyone that was involved is long gone from Penn State. Punishing these players that had nothing to do with the crimes is asinine.

    Once again, the NCAA proves it’s a joke. Their job is to protect the game, not weigh in on events that happened outside the scope of an NCAA contest. Leave the punishment of these criminals to the legal system.

  32. wvucolumbus says: Jul 22, 2012 11:47 AM

    Let’s face it, this program benefitted far too long with the active cover-up of a pedophile. The reason was to protect the football program and legacy of Joe Paterno. Absent the conspiracy the football program would have been decimated in the early to mid part of the first decade of the 21st century. Easily, PSU could have rebounded from it if the university would have acted appropriately.

    For the following reasons:
    1. Trying to hide these hideous incidents to protect football
    +
    2. Not being forthright and swift in the past 2-3 wks (even with taking down a statue)
    =
    “Unprecedented” punitive action

    Penn State is toast. I feel for alumni/fans who had nothing to do with this awful story. As a Steeler fan, it would be like waking up and the Steelers no longer existing.

  33. wvucolumbus says: Jul 22, 2012 11:49 AM

    This will also be a big hit for the B1G conference.

  34. vincentbojackson says: Jul 22, 2012 12:00 PM

    As a result of the NCAA’s recently acquired sense of moral obligation, they’re also now considering sanctions for USC because OJ killed his wife.

  35. shoeflypie says: Jul 22, 2012 12:01 PM

    @BrownsTown “Imagine getting convicted of murder and your employer suspending you for 90 days.”

    Truth of the matter is, if I get convicted of murder, my employer will definitely suspend me for the duration of my sentence, if not longer.

    As to Paterno, I read a comment on another posting saying he was a great guy who only made a mistake. The trouble is, he continued making that mistake daily from 2001 until the truth came out. He chose to not take action every day.

  36. dannythebisforbeast says: Jul 22, 2012 12:05 PM

    I believe if this was any other situation the NCAA would be opened up to all types of litigation considering they have not done any investigation, bypassing all the rules they have in place that ensure a due process etc. but unfortunately sanduskys crimes are so heinous and the public is so outraged they could break all their rules and penn state can’t fight it.

  37. deadeye says: Jul 22, 2012 12:08 PM

    There will unquestionably be those PSU supporters who cry foul about NCAA sanctions. They will claim that this is a criminal matter and the NCAA has no jurisdiction. Well, those people are morons who are framing the argument a certain way to save their precious football program. Those are the same people BTW who insisted that Paterno did all that was legally required, so no one should criticize him.

    Here is a summary: Sandusky was the defensive coordinator for PSU for decades. He retired in 1999 and received emeritus status. He had access to PSU facilities all the way up to 2011. His crimes against children even occasionally occurred in PSU facilities. The head coach knew about it and did nothing. The president knew about it and did nothing. The AD knew about it and did nothing. In fact, it appears as though they all conspired to deliberately keep all it hidden from the proper authorities. They did this to protect JoePa and his pursuit of the all-time wins record, and they did it to protect PSU football and all the money their success generated.

    The NCAA had to act. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a complete moron.

  38. tendigitpoet says: Jul 22, 2012 12:08 PM

    @wvucolumbus: The B1G has taken quite a few hits lately, with athletics issues at Michigan and Ohio State, academics issues with Nebraska’s ouster from the Association of American Universities, and now this with Penn State. The conference has sported a huge black eye as of late.

  39. ilovelucy10 says: Jul 22, 2012 12:10 PM

    Penalize the football team…I don’t recall hearing the offense, defense or special teams were in the shower with those boys??? Only a grown pervert. And for those that knew about it and did nothing, you were basically in the shower with Sandusky!!!!

  40. akismet-18cc6086479c7663079853dc70e04ac8 says: Jul 22, 2012 12:10 PM

    omniusprime if you are going to comment you should at least have a clue what you are talking about…It was SMU not TCU that received the “Death Penalty”

    Like you said ignorance is a sin best eliminated for all time

  41. achilles920 says: Jul 22, 2012 12:13 PM

    Shut down the football program for two years starting next year. That way the kids that weren’t even involved have time to transfer after the season and get their things in order.

  42. rajbais says: Jul 22, 2012 12:16 PM

    I am okay with appropriate penalties that supercede USC’s, but lets them to continue playing because Bill O’Brien is a person who moved his family to State College when none of this “Death Penalty” stuff was going on when he was hired.

    He’s a person too and he and his players should be given credit to at least contribute to the school.

    Sandusky’s mess was not a football team problem, but rather it was an individual personal and criminal problem. The covering up of this away from the football field and the players themselves was the personal problem of Paterno, Kerley, Schulz, and Spanier.

    This was done in private and had nothing to do with players.

    Baylor basketball had troubled people on their team when Patrick Dennehy was murdered by Carlton Dotson. Both young men owned guns and Baylor was not punished for the murder.

    In addition, Bob Knight clearly assaulted Neil Reid when choking him and the NCAA did nothing to him.

    USC only got hammered because it lied to NCAA investigators. Had it told the truth it would have been (at worst) a slap on the wrist.

    The point is don’t make O’Brien and the current players suffer that much when they are clear innocent by standers. This was a personal, individual, and private problem that was away from the current players.

    That problem happened to be Paterno’s. He’s gone, but the players and O’Brien should not be when they deserve credit for making a commitment to help a school. They are there for that and deserve more respect than what they are getting.

  43. jimmy53 says: Jul 22, 2012 12:16 PM

    danny… the NCAA is a “a voluntary organization through which the nation’s colleges and universities govern their athletics programs.” They can change and govern however they choose as long as they’re members agree, which (so far) appears to be the case. So PSU has zero grounds to sue, they can however leave the NCAA if they like. As for those who say PSU broke no NCAA rules–there are morals and ethics clauses that can be referenced, in addition to the all encompassing “lack of institutional control.” For those who say the current players shouldn’t be penalized–this is a good sentiment, but it’s the nature of penalties in the NCAA…Reggie Bush wasn’t still at USC when they were penalized, Meyer wasn’t at OSU when they cheated, all Miami players involved in scandal will (should) be gone by the time the penalties are invoked, and Bobby Bowden knew absolutely nothing about his players cheating and still had to forfeit wins. It’s just unfortunately the way it works.

  44. 1trojanlove says: Jul 22, 2012 12:28 PM

    As an USC fan, I don’t wish the kind of scansions brought down on USC for other schools, however the NCAA loves showing there might! So I can see a 3 year bowl ban, few millions of dollars over a 5 year span, a 5 year probation, and 50 scholarships loss over 5 years…

  45. uraxcrunner says: Jul 22, 2012 12:29 PM

    Unfortunately someone must pay for these horrific crimes committed against innocent boys. I understand the current players were not involved or had any knowledge of the situation however they PSU MUST BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE. Many will say we shouldn’t punish them but this is not about them it’s about justice. Therefore a statement must be sent to every program out there that this kind of crime will not go unpunished. This isn’t about football it’s about the lives that are ruined by someone representing the university who was allowed to continue his assault on young boys while the leadership looked the other way so millions of dollars continued to come in. JoePa was hell bent on getting the record and wasn’t going to let anything stand in his way and for all of this they PSU will pay. It’s unfortunate for the kids but if you worked for a company that broke laws and endangered the well being of the public they would be shut down and many people would lose jobs. So whatever happens to PSU is justified. I am glad they took the statue down as well because leaving it up would have been a constant reminder that the victims were not the most important thing in the whole mess

  46. inhokewetrust says: Jul 22, 2012 12:37 PM

    Hey commits for PSU….hi…my name is Brady Hoke…Welcome to MICHIGAN

  47. papichulo55 says: Jul 22, 2012 12:38 PM

    Banks too big to fail. Guns to precious to be controlled. Schools too important to be reprimanded. Where does it end?

    Apparently, right here!

    “If you cant do the time, dont do the crime.” Tommorrow, that will apply to you too, Penn State.

  48. dutchman1350 says: Jul 22, 2012 12:54 PM

    The NCAA should wait until the court hearings are complete.

    When the penalties are over, maybe Penn State will begin playing players, and cheating like the rest of college football. Who needs scholar athletes.

  49. thraiderskin says: Jul 22, 2012 12:59 PM

    Well it looks like I was wrong…

  50. drew2745 says: Jul 22, 2012 1:06 PM

    As someone not familiar with the NCAA’s “death penalty” rules and usages, I did some research on it, and it appears that the death penalty issuance seems to apply only to things related to cheating or not leveling out the playing field in NCAA sports. Things like paying players, steroids, points shaving or rigging, ineligible people being allowed to play, etc. are what have been deemed under the NCAA’s death penalty. While I do very much condone child abuse in any way, shape, or form, I feel that under precedence, the death penalty wouldn’t apply here, as these henious acts were not in connection or relation to the outcome of any sporting event at Penn State. Penn State should NOT get a slap on the wrist, but as far as any NCAA death penalty to their football program, the precedence doesn’t seem to fit here. Multi-year suspension of the football program (say 4-5 years), with multi-year probation once the suspension is over, with heavy fines attached to it, loss of TV revenue/rights to broadcast football games is probably the only real recourse for the NCAA to do. If the NCAA did impose the death penalty for Penn State, I could see the university taking the NCAA to court over the usage of it when the usage is basically for cheating.

  51. mountaineer50415 says: Jul 22, 2012 1:10 PM

    It seems as though Penn St. fans want everyone to believe that it was only Paterno and a few others involved. However, even one of the janitors knew. If the janitor knew, how can anyone think that no one in the football section knew a thing. Come on. Get real. Paterno and Sandusky worked in the football section. People in the school knew but people who have anything to do with football did not. Now show me those pigs that fly so I can buy a few.
    No one in Paternoland seems to understand how horrendous this mess is. They think it was a big deal to take down the statue until they think we will forget. Still want to keep his name all over the school though. Looking forward to tomorrow. I hope what ever the NCAA does, it will be the last of the everyday rant about Penn St. Give them the death penalty and let the other football games begin. Any other punishment and the ranting will continue till the cows come home.

  52. jdh1016j says: Jul 22, 2012 1:20 PM

    Who covers up child rape better than anybody? WE ARE PENN ST.! Who thinks that there should be no punishment for these crimes? WE ARE PENN ST.! Who thinks Joe “me no care about pedophiles” Paterno is an innocent victim? WE ARE PENN ST.! Who has a student body with absolutely no clue? WE ARE PENN ST.!

  53. thetooloftools says: Jul 22, 2012 1:24 PM

    Dear NCAA, Hit Penn State and hit them hard. Knock them to the floor and drag them around by the hair. Many Penn State fans think that you cannot punish them because it was “the decisions of a few… why punish us”?
    “We Are Penn State”… they scream on football Saturday’s (like it’s an exclusive club).
    Yea “We Are” until something so rancidly disgusting happens.
    I Lived there for over 40 years and the way they did business was disgusting.
    I hope they get at least 5 years of shutdown. Maybe that will give those Penn State fans TIME TO THINK about how horrible this situation really is and right now most of them just don’t get it.

  54. mx429 says: Jul 22, 2012 1:34 PM

    The culture of mindless loyalty to any institution or activity over the concerns of humanity is the core problem.

    Any organization that cultivates such unswerving loyalty, and enabled such heinous crimes to thrive under it’s protective envelope should be completely demolished.

    The suffering created by the culture is real, and sanctions must be as real to eliminate to threat in the future. Penn State should eliminate football entirely and concentrate on educational excellence. It’s a move desperately needed in this athlete-worshipping nation with free-falling acedemic standards. The name of Penn State with regard to football is forever corrupted, time to make things right and set an example for other schools with unreasonable loyalties to athletics.

  55. stairwayto7 says: Jul 22, 2012 1:37 PM

    I can’t wait for the all the Penn State bashers university to get caught covering something up! DEATH PENALTY TO THEM!

  56. undevelopedroll says: Jul 22, 2012 1:38 PM

    NCAA–Do the right thing and shutter the football program at Penn State. Let the University focus on academics. Nothing against college football, but this horrible crime and the cover up shows how far these people would go to protect a football program for gosh sakes!

  57. floridacock says: Jul 22, 2012 1:52 PM

    Not a Penn State fan and totally agree this is the most horrendous thing to ever happen in college athletics, or anywhere for that matter, BUT Penn State is an entity, run by people, all of which, except the board, have been swept out. They are being penalized and rightfully so. But the new coaches, players and administration should not be hit that hard because they had nothing to do with the cover up. Fire the board and start with a clean slate. NO WAY the death penalty. Too many innocents affected. Move on folks, the guilty parties are being prosecuted.

  58. mx429 says: Jul 22, 2012 1:54 PM

    Well stairwayto7, there are a lot of different things you could cover up, not all of them so severe.

    Joe Paterno and Penn State leadership not only covered up an inhuman crime, but continued the protection and donation of resources to a serial pedophile for over a decade.

    Perhaps you enjoyed the attention, but some kids are traumatized by being raped by an old man.

  59. thepancreas says: Jul 22, 2012 1:55 PM

    The only defense Penn State fans seems to be “its unfair to punish the kids on the team today”.

    Nowhere do I read how “unfair” it was for Joe Paterno, Spanier, Schultz, to cover this up and protect Penn State’s image—allowing them to recruit for 10 years, and add gobs of money to the university.

    What kind of twisted moral scale are these loonies using?

    You want to be fair? Fine, let the kids transfer without restriction whereve they want.

    If that allows Penn State with 39 walk-ons –oh well. It’s the grave Paterno et al dug for his program, let them all rot in it.

  60. mx429 says: Jul 22, 2012 2:07 PM

    Yeah, right on floridacock! And the neo-nazis, none of whom had anything to do with the halocaust should welcomed into government.

    If this ongoing drama, by your own admission “the most horrendous thing to happen in college athletics, or anywhere” doesn’t deserve the death penalty, what in the world would?

    It’s the culture that creates these situations, not an individual, or group of individuals. Even to this day, knowing what they know, many on campus would welcome Joe Paterno back with open arms because of his football successes. How sick is that?

  61. drexelvol says: Jul 22, 2012 2:12 PM

    If it’s truly unprecedented, then we’re looking at a Death Penalty longer than SMU’s which was for one season, in 1987.

    I’m thinking/hoping that this will be a two-year Death Penalty, no Bowls for five years, and a reduction in scholarships for five years. Anything less is a slap on the wrist.

    Just like with SMU though, all players can immediately transfer without penalty or loss of eligibility.

  62. sailbum7 says: Jul 22, 2012 2:40 PM

    There is absolutely no reason to be penalizing the football program over this. Sandusky’s actions had nothing to do with the football program at all. There has been no evidence presented that Paterno did anything illegal or that anything occurred which violated NCAA rules in any way. This is a civil and criminal matter that involves certain individuals at Penn State who were affiliated with the football program, but their actions were in no way related to the conduct of the football program. The offenses Sandusky was convicted of occurred after he had left the football program. To penalize the football program and the current players is just wrong as they and the program had nothing to do with these actions.

  63. jamkarat says: Jul 22, 2012 2:52 PM

    @sailbum…That’s an overly simplistic view.
    The situation exists due to the pervasive cult football atmosphere encouraged and protected by Paterno and the entire university. It is this ‘untouchable’ aura that requires the football program [and university] to be dismantled and rebuilt.
    Joe and the University were complicit in a cover up that protected the program and the University, and said to hell with children’s safety. They made a conscious choice in 1998, and again in 2001, to disregard the severity. If indeed Joe was Penn St-he had the power to stop Sandusky-and he choose football instead.
    Whining about displaced athletes, sanctions, and Joe’s legacy only proves that point.

  64. pandebailey says: Jul 22, 2012 2:59 PM

    Stop with the argument that the NCAA would be punishing innocent Penn State players and coaches – that’s what the NCAA ALWAYS does. Its the only option they have – punish the institution.

    Did Reggie Bush and Pete Carrol get punished or the innocent people who followed them at USC?

  65. leeann10 says: Jul 22, 2012 4:09 PM

    Every single administrative person from the athletic dept, the top officials of the university, regents, etc. that was employed during the Sandusky years should be replaced even if they had ” no knowledge”. A clean slate, if you will. It was definitely “lack of institutional control”. However, none of the coaching staff nor athletes were involved and should not be punished. Football is glorified at many large universities due to the amount of revenue provided to said school for lesser lucrative sports -golf, womens soccer, etc. That football revenue provides money for a lot of scholarships that would not be available for a lot of deserving athletes.

  66. jollyjoker2 says: Jul 22, 2012 4:16 PM

    unprecidented? I will hold my breath. You fight evil by destroyed all that is with it. Penn state is full of cash and the NCAA will just hold their nose and claim it was unprecidented. Too much money involved with this all. . We all know it. Its no different than the banking industry.

  67. drew2745 says: Jul 22, 2012 5:27 PM

    As I posted earlier, I do believe that Penn State will get a severe set of punishments for the Sandusky child molestation, but the so-called death penalty doesn’t fit in with what the death penalty was designed for (cheating or gaining an upper hand against an opponent). At the same time,
    according to NCAA rules, the death penalty can only be applied to a school that has “Repeat Violator” status. To achieve that, a school must have been convicted of a major violation in the five years preceding the current violation. Penn State had no such violation, thus by NCAA by-laws, the death penalty issue doesn’t fit. One by-law of the NCAA rules (Rule 10.1) does deal with Unethical Conduct, and is a catch-all, if you will, when other rules or by-laws may not apply.

  68. powercorrupts2 says: Jul 23, 2012 1:57 AM

    This has all happened because no one has the cojones to go up against the power of the media, its predilection for exaggeration to gain attention and notoriety, and its preference for the “big fish” because it gets you more clicks, etc.
    The Freeh Report is a travesty: (1) An ex parte document (not an independent report) that was funded with millions of dollars by parties who have a conflict of interest in the case; (2) written in a prosecutorial fashion with no apparent concern for innocence or exculpatory evidence; (3) criticizes the actions of people using a hindsight perspective that employs information none of them knew; (4) does not contain response by the accused parties (Spanier, Curley, Schultz, Paterno, etc.); (5) is written by someone who has a checkered history and may have a biased view of the case. You need to read the actual report (not just its recommendations/conclusions) and look at the details to see if they support the opinions expressed. Pretend you don’t know that Sandusky has 10 victims accusing him and has been convicted (Paterno didn’t know this in 1998 or 2001). Then see if you can fairly come to the same conclusions as Freeh wrote in his report.
    The 1998 complaint was not for rape/molestation but for giving a bear hug to a boy in the showers. The 1998 investigation by the Police, the CCYC, the PA DPW, and the DA’s Office concluded “no sexual assault occurred”. McQueary’s testimony is not creditable because he changed it after he knew there were victims. Dr. Dranov heard the story the night of the incident in 2001 and he didn’t think it was serious enough to report to the Police. He asked McQueary 3 times if he had seen any sexual activity and he said “no”. So this is what Paterno, Schultz, Curley, Spanier, etc. knew. No sexual activity. They knew nothing about 10 victims coming forth as accusers. They were not interviewed for Mr. Freeh’s Report and given a chance to present their defense. But Mr. Freeh somehow feels they are guilty of not proclaiming Sandusky as a pedophile. He knew Paterno was terminally ill but let him die without interviewing him. He didn’t interview Dr. Dranov who contradicted McQueary’s changed 2011 story. He didn’t note McQueary’s testimony admiting he didn’t tell Paterno he saw a sexual attack in 2001.This is strange, suggests scapegoating and that someone is trying to protect themselves from the media generated hysteria and lynch mob psychology that is manifest in 90% of the posts here. And now the NCAA is going to punish the football program? On the basis of what?

  69. barryad1 says: Jul 23, 2012 9:39 AM

    I am not what I call a football fan, but sheesh I really don’t understand how punishing the current students by screwing up the entire school is going to help. Yes punish, remove, maybe even jail the administrators etc who knew about this but punish the football team ? did they know what was goin on? did the other students in the school know what was going on? most likely not it was in the hands of the administrators and probably some or most of the people who ran the football/sports programs so punish them. Even fining the school doesnt do anything except hurt the school and students and the school nor the students knew about this or were involved in covering it up.
    I just dont understand how punishing the school and the students will do anything useful. harsh punishment for those involved in this and covering it up makes sense

  70. savethisname says: Jul 24, 2012 9:13 AM

    @Barryad1
    Totally agree with you the punishment does not fit the crime this should be a criminal case only the NCAA should not be involed. Their sanctions are punishing the students and the rest of the University not the administrators who committed crimes. The message they’re sending does not hold water I totally disagree that harsh sanctions by the NCAA will make a difference. On the other hand significant criminal charges against all the individuals involved in the cover up does send a message and not only to university administrators and football coaches but to the public as a whole, if you cover up a crime you become an accessory and will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. The healing needs to begin and the best thing that come out of this would be educating the general population about the warning signs of a child who might be a victim of sexual abuse, and who to contact when you do suspect a crime of this nature.

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